So are you willing to give Herm and Carl a "Do over" ?

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, Jeff. They don't look stupid.

You keep glossing over a simple set of facts.

Matt Ryan has looked decent because:

He has a solid OL, strong running game, WR that can get open, and a coaching staff that hasn't handcuffed him.

He would have had NONE of those things in KC, and it would have been reeruned to spend that pick/money on a guy your setting up to fail from Day One.

Your argument about ruining other draft picks is reeruned - bad coaching isn't going to ruin a DT. Or even a CB. Those guys can get by on instincts alone if need be.

It is absolutely neccessary for a rookie QB to have solid coaching from the day they enter the league. Show me the last rookie QB to perform well in spite of shitty coaching...

This goes way way deeper than that, coaching doesn't change a guys mentality. Matt Ryan has something that is rare, he doesn't remotely look like a guy who's started 6 games. That goes way deeper than anything surrounding him..

Also the Falcons won 3 games last year and sometimes these arguments make it sound like he's on a team with alot of talent so he just steps in and is fine. This is Atlanta...they have 1 good WR and a RB, and a bunch of no name lineman.