Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!!

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're out of your ****ing mind.



Again, are you ****ING KIDDING ME???????

This 10-6 team you speak of didn't do jackshit. The starting QB AND the all-world left tackle weren't on the squad the year the Chiefs went 9-7.

Do you think they'd win even 7 games under Vermiel? I mean, most of his seasons were losers: 6-10, 8-8, 7-9. When did THOSE teams improve? Oh yeah. They didn't.

What you "need to look at" is player development. The Chiefs are essentially an expansion franchise. "You need to look at" personnel and player development. Not wins and losses. That's ludicrous.

Especially when the team is starting 10 ROOKIES.

JFC.

That 10-6 team was a good team. The reason they didn't make the playoffs that year is because the AFC was an incredibly competitve conference that year. that 10-6 team even though they didn't make the playoffs was just as good as a playoff team. Even despite not accomplish the main goal.

Ok so you're gonna say the starting Qb wasn't on that 9-7 team. Fine. I'll turn around and say Damon Huard played just as well as Trent Green when he was hurt if not better. Ok Roaf wasn't there and that a bit.

Do I think this team would win 7 games under Vermeil. absolutely. I'll take a Dick Vermeil squad over a Herm Edwards squad anyday. Ok Vermeil may not have won the bowl, but at least his teams executed, were disciplined and played an exciting brand of football. Ok Vermeil would not give you 13-3 seasons ever year, but at least his teams made progress. They went from 6-10, to 8-8 to 13-3. In 3 seasons he went from 6-10 to 13-3. I'll give the man some credit and I do miss him over this ass clown.

You need to look at player development yes you are right. And we had very good player development under Vermeil. that's all in part because he knows and has good understanding on how to work and deal with players. thats what makes him a good coach.

Ok this team has a lot of rookies fine. but all I want to get at is, these rookies aren't going to flourish properly when the coaching staff in front of them stinks. player development and good coaching have a lot to do with the progress of a player. They go hand in hand.

You don't look at the wins and losses? I'd love for you to tell that to some NFL teams. they'd laugh in your face.