What's with the Thigpen fixation?

[Mecca]

Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

What are you, about 5 years old? Eli Manning has been a major disappointment throughout most of his career, but I put him in the "stud" category to be generous with my ratings of the first round quarterbacks, and you're going to bitch at me because I put Anderson in the 'successful' category? Man, you're an ass.

Super Bowl last year, 12-4 record this year. 21 TD's, 10 INT's.

I guess his career is over at age 28.

[RustShack]

Yeah people don't realize it takes time to develop most 1st round QB's.

[Sam Hall]

As good as Big Ben is, I'd like to see Brees in the Pittsburgh offense.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No 3rd round QB would EVER get the amount of time to develop that Eli Manning got. I understand the reasons why. But if they don't get the same opportunities, it's not a fair comparison to say that a 3rd round pick is 100 times less likely to succeed than a 1st round QB.

Nonsense.

Trent Edwards is getting "time" to develop. Brodie Croyle was given "time to develop". Jeff Hostetler was given "time to develop". Chris Redman was finally cut by Baltimore but won some games for Atlanta in 2007. Chris Simms ring a bell?

The bottom line is that you're confusing "time to develop" with first round talent, meaning that Manning was ready to play immediately. Sure, he made mistakes but he wasn't so far behind the curve that he held back the team from competing.

And in year four, he won a Super Bowl. So I'd say that the decision to start him mid-way into his rookie year paid off handsomely.

Because bottom line: Is that why they play the game? To win the Super Bowl?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

As good as Big Ben is, I'd like to see Brees in the Pittsburgh offense.

Can Bree's take a hit? Because that's what Big Ben repeatedly does....and still gets back up.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

As good as Big Ben is, I'd like to see Brees in the Pittsburgh offense.

And apparently, you don't listen outside of the draft forum either:

Brees would absolutely be destroyed behind the Pittsburgh line, throwing to the Pittsburgh receivers.

If Ben was sacked 46 times, how many times do you think Brees would have been sacked? 60? What do you think his completion percentage would have been with defenders in his face one each and every play?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Can Bree's take a hit? Because that's what Big Ben repeatedly does....and still gets back up.

No, he can't.

He's 6' tall and weighs 200 pounds on a good day.

He'd be on IR quicker than Brodie Croyle behind the Steelers line.

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Can Bree's take a hit? Because that's what Big Ben repeatedly does....and still gets back up.

I'd say he can after taking that hit against Denver and coming back from arthroscopic shoulder surgery.

[Sam Hall]

Drew Brees has started every game except one during the past five seasons. It's safe to say he can take a hit.

[Sam Hall]

Here's more: Brees had almost 1,300 pass attempts during the past two seasons. It's safe to say he took plenty of shots.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Here's more: Brees had almost 1,300 pass attempts during the past two seasons. It's safe to say he took plenty of shots.

Uh, no. It's not.

Brees has been sacked 29 times combined in 2007/2008.

There were 11 QB that we sacked more THIS YEAR ALONE.

Only Jay Cutler and Kerry Collins were sacked fewer times in 2008.

In Brees' 3 years with the Saints, he's been sacked a whopping 47 times.

Or 1 fewer time than Ben Roethlisberger was sacked THIS YEAR.

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, no. It's not.

Brees has been sacked 29 times combined in 2007/2008.

There were 11 QB that we sacked more THIS YEAR ALONE.

Only Jay Cutler and Kerry Collins were sacked fewer times in 2008.

In Brees' 3 years with the Saints, he's been sacked a whopping 47 times.

Or 1 fewer time than Ben Roethlisberger was sacked THIS YEAR.

Just admit that Brees has taken his share of hits. All the Saints do is throw.

[Basileus777]

Brees wouldn't't be sacked 40+ times in Pittsburgh because he doesn't hold onto the ball way too ****ing long like Ben does. Pittsburgh's line isn't good, but Ben is responsible for a lot of those sacks.

[SAUTO]

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath58;5478376]We have a 7th starting.

Doesn't mean he's any good.

The Raiders have a 1st overall starting.

Doesn't mean he's any good either.[/QUOTE]

this post is spot on, no matter where a player is drafted they could end up sucking, you just made my point thank you

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Just admit that Brees has taken his share of hits. All the Saints do is throw.

He doesn't.

The stats don't bear that out.

At all.

That offense is predicated on getting the ball out quickly, and that is reflected in the statistics for the number of sacks he's taken. He's not exactly Michael Vick back there, making plays with his feet.

He throws a lot, therefore he must get hit a lot is a ridiculously poor argument.