NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 60

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

NickAthanFan · 02-23-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Deal.

It's like beating up a handicapped kid.

**chiefforlife** · 02-23-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh. So now when the other team gets the ball with 25 seconds left needing to go 80 yards and they don't, you get credited as "stopping" them?

So, the 80 and 65 yard drives that Arizona had directly preceding this, where they actually had time, and where Pitt failed miserably, don't count as them being unable to stop them?

How about the first three quarters they shut them down, do they get credit for that. They gave up two good drives in the 4th quarter. The Cardinals had PLENTY of time, they COULDNT do it.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 10:00 PM

Still looking for any of your mock drafts. Mecca? I thought this was your "thing"

Gutless wonders slam a guy who posts one but don't have the chops to offer your own and open yourself up to crap.

Revealed.
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Mecca · 02-23-2009, 10:02 PM

It's February dumbass, the combine isn't even over.

Everyone doing a mock now will change it 20 times the draft is still 2 months out.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I'm wondering how valuable your assurances are?

Certified Bucket of Warm Piss.

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Agreed.

If Stafford is there draft him. If not Curry.

Look at this!
Look at how stupid you are!

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Not to mention the best QB on the field was Warner. Where was he drafted?

Pioli: "Alright boys, hit every grocery store from here to Wichita; I wanna' build a WINNER"!

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

because someone has to lose when 2 great QBs meet.....

are you new to sports?

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

True.

Game managers are equally successful.

Trent Dilfers will do.

I must hate defense.

Me too! "House of Derrick Thomas" my ass, give me Steve DeBerg all ****ing day long!

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Um.....you are.

Look at your avvy and sig.

Look at this!
Look at how stupid you are again!

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's February dumbass, the combine isn't even over.

Everyone doing a mock now will change it 20 times the draft is still 2 months out.

Good one.

How do you know the guy you slammed mock won't change 19 times?

Seems to me I've seen lots of mocks out there.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Good one.

How do you the guy you slammed mock won't change 19 times?

Seems to me I've seen lots of mocks out there.
Posted via electronic butt-plug.

What the **** is this?! Speak the King's English mother****er; your anal vibrator-in-mouth gibberish does not translate!

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

What the **** is this?! Speak the King's English mother****er; your anal vibrator-in-mouth gibberish does not translate!

Oh heavens I skipped one word. But when you are getting owned you use the old fallback. Grammar!!!!

Ooohhh. Good one.

Still waiting for your genius mock draft ya fraud
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Oh heavens I skipped one word. But when you are getting owned you use the old fallback. Grammar!!!!

Ooohhh. Good one.

Still waiting for your genius mock draft ya fraud
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Mother****er; you couldn't own a pack of Juicy Fruit gum, much less me.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 10:41 PM

That's what you got left?

You guys stepped into it so bad when you went after that mock draft so hard.

You opened yourself up to being so revealed as such frauds and dumbasses to the entire board because none of you can put together a mock yourself.

Ladies and gentleman, the we must draft a qb no matter what bully brigade are totally owned on this.

I do this for the respectful and honorable 85 percent out there.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

That's what you got left?

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Posted via No one gives two shits about my opinion

Cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp etc.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp etc.

Try getting some rest for tomorrow. Maybe your own mock draft will come to you easier then.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Try getting some rest for tomorrow. Maybe your own mock draft will come to you easier then.
Posted via mouth full of donkey balls

When did I ever imply that I would be creating a mock draft for you to peruse or critique?

I don't need to; you "mock the draft" every time you open your mouth.

soundmind · 02-23-2009, 11:41 PM

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ChiefsCountry · 02-23-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind

How does one gain access to the arcade/casino areas in the site? For that matter, what about the ability to create a thread and post images? How does one gain access to these features?

Keep posting, you have to a certain amount of posts. Its to contain pRon and spam.

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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