New Conference re-alignment thread

[eazyb81]

I think Neinas is underestimating the Mizzou fanbase. If I were a Tigers fan, I'd drive 600 miles to see Mizzou play in Tuscaloosa or Knoxville before driving 300 to see them play in Ames.

This is absolutely correct, and he is just grasping at straws now to try and scare the undecided portion of the fanbase.

[DeezNutz]

Neinas also said that Missouri should stay "because of the basketball tournament at Kemper Arena."

So it's pretty clear that our new interim bitch is in the loop.

[mnchiefsguy]

Neinas also said that Missouri should stay "because of the basketball tournament at Kemper Arena."

So it's pretty clear that our new interim bitch is in the loop.

Neinas is looking more and more like a complete out of touch idiot. As well as the guy seems to be respected, is it just an act or what?

No "proud member of the Big XII conference" statements by Mizzou today...so that is a good sign. :)

[|Zach|]

Neinas also said that Missouri should stay "because of the basketball tournament at Kemper Arena."

So it's pretty clear that our new interim bitch is in the loop.

Surely you jest.

[eazyb81]

Neinas also asked how Mizzou could leave the Big 12 and end Norm Stewart's yearly battles with Billy Tubbs, Johnny Orr, and Jack Hartman.

[HemiEd]

Neinas also asked how Mizzou could leave the Big 12 and end Norm Stewart's yearly battles with Billy Tubbs, Johnny Orr, and Jack Hartman.

ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

Jesus this thread sucks now

[kstater]

Mizzou's Homegaming game against ISU will be televised, well, nowhere. Gotta love this conference.

Incidentally, this is the 100th Homecoming by the school that invented Homecoming.
Could be on their own network had they chosen to have one, instead they chose to bitch about others' after they voted to allow them.

[Sassy Squatch]

This thread has HIV...

[Braincase]

Jesus this thread sucks now

You mean you don't want to get into a protracted argument about whether or not a particular school invented Homecoming, Journalism, the Gutenberg Press, sliced bread and nerf basketball?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I look forward to the day we are members of a conference without a man named Christine.

[Mr. Laz]

This thread has HIV...

i'm noticing a trend

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Back on track....so MU is set to vote to leave or not leave at 4:00pm Tuesday. Chuck Neinas is more senile that your grandpa who cooked with teflon and aluminum pans all his life. And ATM has a guy named Christine.

What else is going on?

[pr_capone]

Filter evasion on the threat title.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

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[|Zach|]

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[luv]

I haven't really been paying attention, as I don't tend to go in Saul's threads. Can someone give me the skinny on the latest rumors? If MU signs to leave, where would they be going? Haven't heard the latest on that, either.

[KChiefs1]

Could be on their own network had they chosen to have one, instead they chose to bitch about others' after they voted to allow them.

I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference. Don't expect any KSU, ISU or BU fans to understand that the pressure MU is exerting on Bevo is helping you guys out.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference. Don't expect any KSU, ISU or BU fans to understand that the pressure MU is exerting on Bevo is helping you guys out.

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I haven't really been paying attention, as I don't tend to go in Saul's threads. Can someone give me the skinny on the latest rumors? If MU signs to leave, where would they be going? Haven't heard the latest on that, either.

The $EC.

[|Zach|]

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

If we take concessions and stay itll be a nice boost to you.

Agreed there is no nobole reason but the outcome will be positive for the have nots of the league.

[patteeu]

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

Is that really what you think he said?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Is that really what you think he said?

he's implying that MU is doing it to help out the rest of the conference, standing up the the big bad bully.

[eazyb81]

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

Oh please, wake up. Mizzou is trying for the same equality that KSU, ISU, KU, and others should be trying for but are afraid to speak out of turn. Shared revenue, clear rules for LHN and tier 3 rights, etc. If you guys would have just banded with us instead of leaving us on an island it probably would have had a bigger impact on UT.

[DJ's left nut]

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

And aren't this year.

But lets face it, you fellas that are hiding behind UT's skirts aren't doing anyone any favors at all.

At least MU might do something to help the sorry band of stragglers that are still blindly suckling on whatever UT puts in their mouths. Lord knows you fellas weren't inclined to do any actual heavy lifting on your own.

Sure, it's self-interested, but while you guys were coming up with this:

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MU was actually drawing a line in the sand. If we stick around, the pack of sniveling ingrates that is currently lobbing rocks at MU will be better off for our insubordination when we dared actually lobby for UT to make changes.

Yeah - you fellas should totally be indignant. Afterall, you've clearly been instrumental to the changes being considered by the XII.

[|Zach|]

I wonder if they are pressing for merit based bowl slotting.

That would be welcome.

[KChiefs1]

Get real, IF MU is leaving as rumored, that has ZERO to do with anyone but MU. Don't act like you're trying to save us.....you certainly weren't last year.

Wow! You really have a problem with comprehension huh? I give up!

[DJ's left nut]

he's implying that MU is doing it to help out the rest of the conference, standing up the the big bad bully.

No, he really isn't.

Go back to hoping KU's basketball program can get you a spot in a major conference.

[mnchiefsguy]

I wonder if they are pressing for merit based bowl slotting.

That would be welcome.

That is something that has not been mentioned, but I would think Mizzou would be the first to bring that up. Of course, KU would be opposed to such a fair rule.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Oh please, wake up. Mizzou is trying for the same equality that KSU, ISU, KU, and others should be trying for but are afraid to speak out of turn. Shared revenue, clear rules for LHN and tier 3 rights, etc. If you guys would have just banded with us instead of leaving us on an island it probably would have had a bigger impact on UT.

I'm in the minority, but frankly I don't understand the expectation of equality. Some schools DO earn more than others in rights, and that is great for them. I would have liked to see a more balanced share, for sure, but I'm not going to hate on UT for having clout and the draw to earn more. I am against the LHN showing high school games or highlights due to the unfair recruiting advantages, but I don't hate UT for their tv deal any more than I dislike Notre Dame for their deal. That is just jealousy talking.....everyone of us would take the cash if it was available.

[DJ's left nut]

That is something that has not been mentioned, but I would think Mizzou would be the first to bring that up. Of course, KU would be opposed to such a fair rule.

Pft - KU wouldn't give a shit.

Afterall, what are the odds of them managing to miss OU and UT in the same season, get their asses kicked on a neutral sight and then back into a BCS bid again?

Let's face it - they aren't worried about that perfect storm of butt-fucking-lucky happening ever again. Sweet Lew only had one soul to sell to get that deal.

[eazyb81]

I'm in the minority, but frankly I don't understand the expectation of equality. Some schools DO earn more than others in rights, and that is great for them. I would have liked to see a more balanced share, for sure, but I'm not going to hate on UT for having clout and the draw to earn more. I am against the LHN showing high school games or highlights due to the unfair recruiting advantages, but I don't hate UT for their tv deal any more than I dislike Notre Dame for their deal. That is just jealousy talking.....everyone of us would take the cash if it was available.

The expectation is based on what the best conferences in the country already have in place. But if you are content to be SWCjr and let Texas run wild until they blow it up and move on, so be it. I just hope Mizzou isn't still around to have to pick up the pieces.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

No, he really isn't.

Go back to hoping KU's basketball program can get you a spot in a major conference.

clarify this for me then:
I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference."

[DJ's left nut]

I'm in the minority, but frankly I don't understand the expectation of equality. Some schools DO earn more than others in rights, and that is great for them. I would have liked to see a more balanced share, for sure, but I'm not going to hate on UT for having clout and the draw to earn more. I am against the LHN showing high school games or highlights due to the unfair recruiting advantages, but I don't hate UT for their tv deal any more than I dislike Notre Dame for their deal. That is just jealousy talking.....everyone of us would take the cash if it was available.

I know - right?

How the hell else would a tiny agricultural school in the middle of nowhere Kansas that has possibly the worst football program in the history of the sport sans a few glory years under a rapidly aging retiree actually be allowed to play in a major conference?

Keep everything you can get, UT - EkoKat's got your back.

[KChiefs1]

I wonder if they are pressing for merit based bowl slotting.

That would be welcome.

I believe they are...along with reform of the LHN & getting the Big 12 back up to 12 teams with divisions.

[DJ's left nut]

clarify this for me then:
I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference."

I believe you can stop reading a post literally when he refers to an institution of higher learning as "the special kids"...

But hey, that's just me.

[mnchiefsguy]

Listening to Neinas from earlier on whb....this guy really seems out of it, not sure if he is really that slow, or if he is just trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes.

[DJ's left nut]

Listening to Neinas from earlier on whb....this guy really seems out of it, not sure if he is really that slow, or if he is just trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes.

I loved the dude's resume.

Then I heard him give an interview that I'm 90% certain was literally done from a golf-course.

It appears that he's agonizingly overmatched right now. 90% of the posters on this thread seem more qualified to speak to the machinations of the XII than Chuck Neinas does right now.

[mnchiefsguy]

I loved the dude's resume.

Then I heard him give an interview that I'm 90% certain was literally done from a golf-course.

It appears that he's agonizingly overmatched right now. 90% of the posters on this thread seem more qualified to speak to the machinations of the XII than Chuck Neinas does right now.

I agree...not sure how that effects what will happen with Mizzou.

[eazyb81]

I loved the dude's resume.

Then I heard him give an interview that I'm 90% certain was literally done from a golf-course.

It appears that he's agonizingly overmatched right now. 90% of the posters on this thread seem more qualified to speak to the machinations of the XII than Chuck Neinas does right now.

I think he is the perfect man for the job in UT's eyes.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I saw earlier that he mentioned the bball tourney being played at Kemper. I can understand misspeaking about something like that, as when he was Big 8 commish, that was the location. When he starts reading his junk mail and getting all codgity, I'll recommend him to replace Andy Rooney.

[mnchiefsguy]

Neinas did say that Mizzou would be part of the BIG XII when finally pressed by KK.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Neinas did say that Mizzou would be part of the BIG XII when finally pressed by KK.

he's been touting that line. All public indications from Mizzou certainly contradict though.

[Stewie]

Listening to Neinas from earlier on whb....this guy really seems out of it, not sure if he is really that slow, or if he is just trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes.

I listened to that and then switched to 610 where he was interviewed immediately afterwards.

Basically, he sounds like the CEO of a publicly listed company. He isn't going to say anything of substance to Joe Blow. He picks his words very carefully and sticks to the point he wants to make. Being careful may sound like he's slow but Neinas is a smart guy if you listen to him.

[mnchiefsguy]

he's been touting that line. All public indications from Mizzou certainly contradict though.

I certainly hope so.

[Stewie]

Mizzou Fan can get in the car and drive to Ames, Manhattan and Lawrence. Which interestingly enough, are the three worst road trips in the conference.


Since when is Lawrence one of the worst road trips? Have you ever been there? I know Lubbock, Waco and Stillwater are hot spots and everyone wants to go there. :rolleyes:

[DJ's left nut]

I listened to that and then switched to 610 where he was interviewed immediately afterwards.

Basically, he sounds like the CEO of a publicly listed company. He isn't going to say anything of substance to Joe Blow. He picks his words very carefully and sticks to the point he wants to make. Being careful may sound like he's slow but Neinas is a smart guy if you listen to him.

I don't get the feeling that he's unintelligent - rather simply uninformed or uninvested.

He just gives off a very half-assed vibe to me. I half expect him to say "let them eat cake" at some point.

[mnchiefsguy]

I listened to that and then switched to 610 where he was interviewed immediately afterwards.

Basically, he sounds like the CEO of a publicly listed company. He isn't going to say anything of substance to Joe Blow. He picks his words very carefully and sticks to the point he wants to make. Being careful may sound like he's slow but Neinas is a smart guy if you listen to him.

Is the 610 bit worth listening too, or did he just restate what he said on 810?

[Stewie]

Is the 610 bit worth listening too, or did he just restate what he said on 810?

He was diplomatic and made no big announcement or anything. He only allows 10 minutes, so it's not a long interview.

He seems confident that MU will stay in the Big XII. He doesn't give any details about why.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

in a related note, is there any message board more annoying in format than Tigerboard?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Since when is Lawrence one of the worst road trips? Have you ever been there? I know Lubbock, Waco and Stillwater are hot spots and everyone wants to go there. :rolleyes:

The football atmosphere in Lawrence is fucking pathetic - as is most of the B12. The best B12 road trip for Mizzou fans just left for the B1G.

Who gives a shit if Lawrence is only 170 miles from Columbia? Any real football fan would likely rather drive the extra distance to see Mizzou play in a SEC stadium.

Neinas is trying (and failing) to make a point about travel should Mizzou leave. Dude's grasping at straws.

[|Zach|]

in a related note, is there any message board more annoying in format than Tigerboard?

Fucking horrible.

[Stewie]

The football atmosphere in Lawrence is fucking pathetic - as is most of the B12. The best B12 road trip for Mizzou fans just left for the B1G.

Who gives a shit if Lawrence is only 170 miles from Columbia? Any real football fan would likely rather drive the extra distance to see Mizzou play in a SEC stadium.

What? When was the last KU football game you went to? And how many tickets were you able to get from Nebraska for one of their home games?

Missouri fans don't travel well. Hell, they don't even travel to Columbia for basketball games.

[eazyb81]

What? When was the last KU football game you went to?

Missouri fans don't travel well. Hell, they don't even travel to Columbia for basketball games.

Hell, ku fans don't travel to Arrowhead for a supposed rivalry game.

[Reerun_KC]

Hell, ku fans don't travel to Arrowhead for a supposed rivalry game.

Hell Most MU fans are at WOF on Sundays anyway...

[Bowser]

Hell Most MU fans are at WOF on Sundays anyway...

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[Stewie]

Hell, ku fans don't travel to Arrowhead for a supposed rivalry game.

I believe that ticket sales for both sides has been about even until last year.

[eazyb81]

I believe that ticket sales for both sides has been about even until last year.

I believe you didn't attend or watch last year's game if you think that. If you'd like I can dig up some pictures of the raucous ku crowd.

[Stewie]

I believe you didn't attend or watch last year's game if you think that. If you'd like I can dig up some pictures of the raucous ku crowd.

You must be an MU fan. You have NO reading comprehension AT ALL. Jesus!

[Reerun_KC]

I believe you didn't attend or watch last year's game if you think that. If you'd like I can dig up some pictures of the raucous ku crowd.

And? Why does this have to be a dick measuring contest?

I am a KU fan and I dont give a flying fuck about what OTWP says about my fan experience on Gameday...

Its what you make of it anyway. I have had just as much fun at KU as I have watching games in Clemson, OU, Tulane, Florida St and South Carolina...

Hell I am sure if I want to MU to watch a game it would be a blast regardless of who is playing...

[Sassy Squatch]

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[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the fuck wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.

[Stewie]

I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the fuck wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.

Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.

[|Zach|]

Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.

Going to Columbia is a much better experience then going to see Mass St. hippies and announcers going ape shit over a last second win over NIU.

[Stewie]

Going to Columbia is a much better experience then going to see Mass St. hippies and announcers going ape shit over a last second win over NIU.

Ignorance is your strong point, by a mile.

[|Zach|]

Ignorance is your strong point, by a mile.

Fine, there are not hippies on Mass St and your announcer didn't go apeshit over a last second win against NIU.

*throwing up hands* LMAO

[OnTheWarpath15]

Who the hell wants to go to Columbia? That's not an argument. I'm sure all the fans of the SEC are praying and praying that MU joins their hillbilly league so they can travel for some of that Missouri kulture.

Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:


What Neinas should have said is that John Q. Mizzou Fan can get in the car and drive to Ames, Manhattan and Lawrence. Which interestingly enough, are the three worst road trips in the conference.

Otherwise, fan travel is pretty similar.

Fayetteville is closer than Lincoln was.

Oxford, Nashville and Lexington are similar distances from Columbia as Norman and Stillwater.

The entire SEC, sans Florida and SC are closer than all of the B12 schools in Texas.

I think Neinas is underestimating the Mizzou fanbase. If I were a Tigers fan, I'd drive 600 miles to see Mizzou play in Tuscaloosa or Knoxville before driving 300 to see them play in Ames.


It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.

[Stewie]

Fine, there are not hippies on Mass St and your announcer didn't go apeshit over a last second win against NIU.

*throwing up hands* LMAO

Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?

[|Zach|]

Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?

I absolutely have. It is a fun place to be. I like Liberty hall and Free State brewing company. I have been tapped to do photography on campus.

Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football which is funny because it seems you agree. You went from defending the football destination cred in Lawrence to propping up its academia. That is fine and all...the campus isn't that impressive but the area absolutely is.

[HemiEd]

Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:





It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.You insulted going to Lawrence, so Stewie responded by comparing Columbia, anyway that is what I read.

I'm not claiming Mizzou football fans travel well. I have no idea.

Then again, I can understand why they wouldn't. Who the **** wants to go to Lawrence, Ames and Manhattan?

Regardless of if they travel or not, Neinas' argument is desperate at best.

[ChiTown]

Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football.

It is when you are the opposing team. :D

[DJ's left nut]

I thought OTWP was a non-combatant in this one.

I didn't think he had any particular allegiance to MU or KU.

[DeezNutz]

It is when you are the opposing team. :D

LMAO. Unity.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to thank K-State for graciously allowing Missouri to be a part of the telecast this Saturday.

[Stewie]

Wow, you're really keeping track of this, aren't you?

No one said anything about going to Columbia. Well, beside you.

Neinas made an ignorant comment saying that "John Q. Fan, he can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern, not Southern."

To which I posted:





It's a poor attempt at persuading Mizzou fans that the B12 is a better option.

You posted that some Big XII schools were Purgatory... like the SEC has these gleaming bastions of milk and honey. Whatever. I posted that Columbia is no destination, in fact, their own fans don't go to games at the USC flunkie arena.

My prediction is that MU stays because the smart people know it's the right thing to do.

[ChiTown]

LMAO. Unity.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to thank K-State for graciously allowing Missouri to be a part of the telecast this Saturday.

Quit dragging us down. Here, bring this with you this weekend....

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[Rams Fan]

You posted that some Big XII schools were Purgatory... like the SEC has these gleaming bastions of milk and honey. Whatever. I posted that Columbia is no destination, in fact, their own fans don't go to games at the USC flunkie arena.

My prediction is that MU stays because the smart people know it's the right thing to do.

Staying in a conference that might not be here in 5 years is the right thing to do?

[Stewie]

I absolutely have. It is a fun place to be. I like Liberty hall and Free State brewing company. I have been tapped to do photography on campus.

Having said all that, lets not pretend it is a great destination for Saturday football which is funny because it seems you agree. You went from defending the football destination cred in Lawrence to propping up its academia. That is fine and all...the campus isn't that impressive but the area absolutely is.

I guess I take the KU fan bias to the games. We have a great time. I guess it's like going to Arrowhead when the Chiefs are 0-3. It's still a fun time.

[mnchiefsguy]

You posted that some Big XII schools were Purgatory... like the SEC has these gleaming bastions of milk and honey. Whatever. I posted that Columbia is no destination, in fact, their own fans don't go to games at the USC flunkie arena.

My prediction is that MU stays because the smart people know it's the right thing to do.

The right thing to do? Stay and wind up being on the outside looking in when Texas and OU bolt?

MU staying is not the best for them. It might be the best for KU, KSU, etc. If KU was getting an offer from the SEC, one would be crazy to think they would not be all over it.

[|Zach|]

I guess I take the KU fan bias to the games. We have a great time. I guess it's like going to Arrowhead when the Chiefs are 0-3. It's still a fun time.

There is no reason not to have a great time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I thought OTWP was a non-combatant in this one.

I didn't think he had any particular allegiance to MU or KU.

Correct.

Though I have been to both campuses for both football and basketball games.

And I'll stand by what I said. Regardless of distance (which is the crux of Neinas' comment) I'm betting more Mizzou fans would rather travel to Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville to see the Tigers play football than Lawrence, Manhattan or Ames.

Just like Mizzou basketball fans would rather road trip to Lawrence than Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville.

From my POV, Mizzou loses one thing in terms of tradition, history, rivalry, gameday experience, etc if they leave the B12:

Basketball games at Allen Fieldhouse.

And it could be argued that they'll just replace that experience with Kentucky - while gaining a metric fuckton in destination football with the likes of Ole Miss, Bama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Auburn, etc.

[Stewie]

Staying in conference that might not be here in 5 years is the right thing to do?

If you listen to Neinas it will be much harder to leave the Big XII and it's not just about football. The SEC's penalties have loopholes if they want to leave. Who's to say five years from now that LSU and Arkansas don't get a better offer from another conference?

[|Zach|]

LMAO

[Stewie]

The right thing to do? Stay and wind up being on the outside looking in when Texas and OU bolt?

MU staying is not the best for them. It might be the best for KU, KSU, etc. If KU was getting an offer from the SEC, one would be crazy to think they would not be all over it.

Where are Texas and OU going to bolt to? The SEC? Wouldn't that be ironic? The PAC already said no.

[Stewie]

Though I have been to both campuses for both football and basketball games.



You have? That wasn't the case when we talked at the BBQ.

[mnchiefsguy]

If you listen to Neinas it will be much harder to leave the Big XII and it's not just about football. The SEC's penalties have loopholes if they want to leave. Who's to say five years from now that LSU and Arkansas don't get a better offer from another conference?

There are no exit fees or penalties to leave the SEC. In a true sign of strength, any team can leave at anytime. The schools in the SEC realize that they are much greater and much more profitable by staying together, something that Texas and OU have yet to learn.

I don't want Mizzou to be in a conference where it is tough to leave, I want Mizzou to be in a conference that no one WANTS to leave.

[Saul Good]

I appreciate how the non-MU fans are all so worried about the best interests of Mizzou. They all think staying is in our best interests. The fact that it helps their teams is just a bonus.

[mnchiefsguy]

Where are Texas and OU going to bolt to? The SEC? Wouldn't that be ironic? The PAC already said no.

Texas and OU can come on over to the SEC...but they will have to play by the SEC rules, just like every other member of the conference. Texas and OU do not play well with others, they believe they are entitled to special considerations and rules.

[Saul Good]

If you listen to Neinas it will be much harder to leave the Big XII and it's not just about football. The SEC's penalties have loopholes if they want to leave. Who's to say five years from now that LSU and Arkansas don't get a better offer from another conference?

Holy shit.

[eazyb81]

I appreciate how the non-MU fans are all so worried about the best interests of Mizzou. They all think staying is in our best interests. The fact that it helps their teams is just a bonus.

Yeah, hopefully the "smart" people at Mizzou read this thread and keep us in place in the wonderful Big 12. LMAO

[Saul Good]

I liked the argument that Missouri is Midwest rather than Southern. Then, I looked on a map and saw that there is exactly 1 Big XII team to the North of Missouri and laughed.

[Mr. Plow]

If you listen to Neinas it will be much harder to leave the Big XII and it's not just about football. The SEC's penalties have loopholes if they want to leave. Who's to say five years from now that LSU and Arkansas don't get a better offer from another conference?


The Big 12 is dead. It's just a matter of time. Missouri would be smart to get out now while they have the offer they want rather than wait until the conference collapses.

I wish KU had a decent offer from another BCS conference or had something to offer another BCS conference....because when the conference collapses, KU is screwed.

[eazyb81]

Correct.

Though I have been to both campuses for both football and basketball games.

And I'll stand by what I said. Regardless of distance (which is the crux of Neinas' comment) I'm betting more Mizzou fans would rather travel to Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville to see the Tigers play football than Lawrence, Manhattan or Ames.

Just like Mizzou basketball fans would rather road trip to Lawrence than Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville.

From my POV, Mizzou loses one thing in terms of tradition, history, rivalry, gameday experience, etc if they leave the B12:

Basketball games at Allen Fieldhouse.

And it could be argued that they'll just replace that experience with Kentucky - while gaining a metric ****ton in destination football with the likes of Ole Miss, Bama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Auburn, etc.

Pretty much this.

Not to mention the significant increase in revenue and stability SEC membership provides.

I can't f'n wait to go see Mizzou play at Rocky Top, The Swamp, Bryant-Denny, Between the Hedges, The Grove, etc. It is the best athletic conference in the country so of course it will be difficult as hell, but it will be an enjoyable ride. I hope we make the right decision.

[Stewie]

Holy shit.

Nice response. Neinas has spoken about the various conference contracts specifically.

[Stewie]

Pretty much this.

Not to mention the significant increase in revenue and stability SEC membership provides.

I can't f'n wait to go see Mizzou play at Rocky Top, The Swamp, Bryant-Denny, Between the Hedges, The Grove, etc. It is the best athletic conference in the country so of course it will be difficult as hell, but it will be an enjoyable ride. I hope we make the right decision.

Remember MU going to the Big 10? This is Part II.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You have? That wasn't the case when we talked at the BBQ.

Things have changed since April, 2007.

[Stewie]

Things have changed since April, 2007.

Wrong BBQ, but OK. I never heard you mention going to a KU game here (either football or basketball), but I take your word for it.

[DeezNutz]

Remember MU going to the Big 10? This is Part II.

Please, please, please... /KU fan

[OnTheWarpath15]

Wrong BBQ, but OK.

I'm not sure which BBQ you're referring to then.

My only recollection of meeting you was at Phil's in April 2007.

Wondering if you're confusing me with someone else. Doesn't really matter anyway.

[DeezNutz]

Nice response. Neinas has spoken about the various conference contracts specifically.

When the SEC reworks its television contracts, what do you think that money is going to look like?

There is no "better" conference for the likes of LSU to go to.

[Stewie]

Please, please, please... /KU fan

I only know what the Commissioner of the Big XII says. The MU contingent in meetings last week were very positive about the Big XII. These were face to face meetings and were very positive.

[Stewie]

When the SEC reworks its television contracts, what do you think that money is going to look like?

There is no "better" conference for the likes of LSU to go to.

It will add bucks, for sure. Not like the Big XII when the conference comes up for renewal in a couple of years. Hell, the networks drool over Texas and OU by themselves and that money will be split among all schools as of today.

[Stewie]

Gotta go. We'll know more in a day or two.

[DeezNutz]

It will add bucks, for sure. Not like the Big XII when the conference comes up for renewal in a couple of years. Hell, the networks drool over Texas and OU by themselves and that money will be split among all schools as of today.

Really?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Pretty much this.

Not to mention the significant increase in revenue and stability SEC membership provides.

I can't f'n wait to go see Mizzou play at Rocky Top, The Swamp, Bryant-Denny, Between the Hedges, The Grove, etc. It is the best athletic conference in the country so of course it will be difficult as hell, but it will be an enjoyable ride. I hope we make the right decision.

A friend of mine graduated from Ole Miss, and was down there last weekend for the Georgia game. She was nice enough to share some pics from The Grove.

First time Mizzou plays down there, I'm going. I'm not a huge CFB fan, but the majority of the games I watch are SEC games. Would love to see games in those stadiums.

[kstater]

Really?

Comparing conference TV deals is tough. The Big 12 and 10 will dwarf the SEC and beat the PAC's contract in 5 years. The SEC is still like 12 years away from being able to get a new deal at which time it will dwarf the other twos.

[kstater]

I'm sorry KSU has no leverage but be glad that MU is looking out for the "special" kids in the conference. Don't expect any KSU, ISU or BU fans to understand that the pressure MU is exerting on Bevo is helping you guys out.

Did you even read what I posted? Because what you posted here has no relevance to what I posted.

[beer bacon]

Comparing conference TV deals is tough. The Big 12 and 10 will dwarf the SEC and beat the PAC's contract in 5 years. The SEC is still like 12 years away from being able to get a new deal at which time it will dwarf the other twos.

The SEC is going to renegotiate all their TV deals once Mizzou and A&M are members.

[kstater]

The SEC is going to renegotiate all their TV deals once Mizzou and A&M are members.

I don't doubt they'll try. But I don't see what CBS has to gain in giving more money in a contract that's already signed for the next 12 years.

[eazyb81]

Remember MU going to the Big 10? This is Part II.

Definitely could be, which is why I haven't guaranteed anything. I hope we go but who knows what will happen.

[mnchiefsguy]

I don't doubt they'll try. But I don't see what CBS has to gain in giving more money in a contract that's already signed for the next 12 years.

Because CBS will want to be part of the SEC network when that comes around. The SEC is going to follow the B1G's lead on this and form their own network in the next few years. CBS would love to be a partner in that.

[mnchiefsguy]

Definitely could be, which is why I haven't guaranteed anything. I hope we go but who knows what will happen.

Yep, hopefully tomorrow we will have an idea what the future holds.

[kstater]

Because CBS will want to be part of the SEC network when that comes around. The SEC is going to follow the B1G's lead on this and form their own network in the next few years. CBS would love to be a partner in that.

There is already a SEC network. It's with ESPN, it's their tier 2 contract.

[DeezNutz]

Definitely could be, which is why I haven't guaranteed anything. I hope we go but who knows what will happen.

I haven't seen too many Mizzou fans puffing their chests this time around. That's for damn sure.

[eazyb81]

I don't doubt they'll try. But I don't see what CBS has to gain in giving more money in a contract that's already signed for the next 12 years.

So you think the SEC has gone through this circus and opened themselves up to potential litigation just to add two mouths to feed and no upside for current SEC teams? Does that really make logical sense?

[KChiefs1]

Staying in a conference that might not be here in 5 years is the right thing to do?

The fans of schools who hide behind Bevo's skirt don't understand your question.

[eazyb81]

There is already a SEC network. It's with ESPN, it's their tier 2 contract.

It is the SEC branding with ESPN but it obviously is not a true network. It was signed before BTN showed how lucrative tier 3 networks could be, and SEC insiders say this is one of the main catalysts in driving expansion this time around.

[KChiefs1]

The Big 12 is dead. It's just a matter of time. Missouri would be smart to get out now while they have the offer they want rather than wait until the conference collapses.

I wish KU had a decent offer from another BCS conference or had something to offer another BCS conference....because when the conference collapses, KU is screwed.

Exactly why MU has to leave.

[DJ's left nut]

Nice response. Neinas has spoken about the various conference contracts specifically.

You haven't paid any attention to the sensible responses, so he appeared to be attempting a new approach.

That's okay - you're just another trembling beaker like HH.

It's absolutely laughable how transparent you fellas are.

[Ebolapox]

Mainly, as a KU grad, I don't give a shit about you're biased opinion. Have you actually been on the KU campus and seen any of the really interesting academia? Ya know, the stuff that people study and care about?

Your.

has he ever seen really interesting academia? what, is that some type of rare bird that's found on KU's campus? does this bird teach proper usage of common words?

:p

[mnchiefsguy]

Your.

has he ever seen really interesting academia? what, is that some type of rare bird that's found on KU's campus? does this bird teach proper usage of common words?

:p

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

[Ebolapox]

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

that's what I was wondering...

[mnchiefsguy]

Starting to see some tweets about a possible WVU announcement for the SEC tomorrow....anyone worried about them stealing Mizzou's spot?

[DaKCMan AP]

Starting to see some tweets about a possible WVU announcement for the SEC tomorrow....anyone worried about them stealing Mizzou's spot?

No, we don't want WVU.

[mnchiefsguy]

No, we don't want WVU.

I would think Mizzou would be a better choice, but the WVU tweets appear to be gaining some steam, saying announcements tomorrow.

Hopefully the only announcement tomorrow is the one in which the curators authorize Deaton to change conferences.

[Mr. Laz]

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

that's what I was wondering...
College National Rank

Kansas
CCAP - 22
USNWR - 38

Missouri
CCAP - 13
USNWR - 42

KU programs ranked in the top 30 among publics nationally are:

1. City Management and Urban Policy (Master)
1. Special Education (Master/Doctorate)
2. Community Health (Master/Doctorate)
2. Occupational Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
3. Paleontology (Doctorate)
3. Public Management Administration (Master)
4. Public Affairs (Master)
4. Speech-Language-Pathology (Master)
7. Audiology (Doctorate)
9. Nursing-Midwifery (Master)
9. Petroleum Engineering (Master/Doctorate)
9. Public Finance & Budgeting (Master)
10. School of Education (Master/Doctorate)
11. Social Work (Master)
12. Music (Master)
12. Physical Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
13. Clinical Child Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Clinical Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Pharmacy (PharmD)
21. Psychology (Doctorate)
22. Healthcare Management (Master)
23. Drama/Theatre (Master)
24. History (Doctorate)
25. Nursing-Anesthesia (Master)
26. Fine Arts (Master)
28. Nursing (Master)
30. Biological Sciences (Doctorate)
30. Political Science (Doctorate)

[Saul Good]

I only know what the Commissioner of the Big XII says.

In that case, I'll sell you some courtside seats for the 2012 Big XII tournament in Kemper Arena at a hefty discount off of face value.

[KChiefs1]

Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this:

The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters.

All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.

[tk13]

The Pac 12 (or any other conference) couldn't get Texas to budge an inch, I don't know why anyone in the Big XII thinks they can do better.

[mnchiefsguy]

Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this:

The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters.

All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.

Wow...best news I have heard today. If this is the case, Deaton should be immediately terminated from his contract for being so foolish and opposing a move to the SEC.

[mnchiefsguy]

Question is...if Deaton is opposed to the move, and the curators vote for him to look at other conferences, could he decide on his own to not apply to the SEC and stay in the Big XII?

[Jerm]

If we pass up on going to the SEC and stay in the Big XII, the amount of hate I have for Brady Deaton will be unfathomable.

[ChiTown]

College National Rank

Kansas
CCAP - 22
USNWR - 38

Missouri
CCAP - 13
USNWR - 42

KU programs ranked in the top 30 among publics nationally are:

1. City Management and Urban Policy (Master)
1. Special Education (Master/Doctorate)
2. Community Health (Master/Doctorate)
2. Occupational Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
3. Paleontology (Doctorate)
3. Public Management Administration (Master)
4. Public Affairs (Master)
4. Speech-Language-Pathology (Master)
7. Audiology (Doctorate)
9. Nursing-Midwifery (Master)
9. Petroleum Engineering (Master/Doctorate)
9. Public Finance & Budgeting (Master)
10. School of Education (Master/Doctorate)
11. Social Work (Master)
12. Music (Master)
12. Physical Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
13. Clinical Child Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Clinical Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Pharmacy (PharmD)
21. Psychology (Doctorate)
22. Healthcare Management (Master)
23. Drama/Theatre (Master)
24. History (Doctorate)
25. Nursing-Anesthesia (Master)
26. Fine Arts (Master)
28. Nursing (Master)
30. Biological Sciences (Doctorate)
30. Political Science (Doctorate)

I find all this talk hilarious.

[Saulbadguy]

No, we don't want WVU.

LOL

[WilliamTheIrish]

Hialrious stuff from goemaw: Just to get this thread back onto the twitter universe.

[Braincase]

I find all this talk hilarious.

BioMechanical Engineering is on the rise...

[Saulbadguy]

BioMechanical Engineering is on the rise...

Null sweat, chummer.

http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/394492/maccallister.jpg

[talastan]

I just wish that they'd make the decision. I really hope that they move to the SEC. Much better opportunity for the school and it makes common sense IMO; but Common Sense isn't really that Common is it? :shrug:

[Reerun_KC]

Deal is done?

[DJ's left nut]

Deal is done?

A Realtor friend of mine told me she saw Gary Pinkel shopping for houses in Birmingham.

[Reerun_KC]

A Realtor friend of mine told me she saw Gary Pinkel shopping for houses in Birmingham.

I have heard that KU Board of Regents were heading to Colorado Springs to visit the MWC...

Once MU, Texas and OU leave... KU will only be left with Texas's used dildo and no home...

[Titty Meat]

I have heard that KU Board of Regents were heading to Colorado Springs to visit the MWC...

Once MU, Texas and OU leave... KU will only be left with Texas's used dildo and no home...

I heard the pac 12 plane was in Kansas City.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

[DJ's left nut]

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

Any chance you could shit in Deaton's boot?

[talastan]

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

MAKE THE RIGHT DAMN DECISION!!! GO TO THE SEC!! (Yelling in caps will always get the message across. ) :D

[DaKCMan AP]

MAKE THE RIGHT DAMN DECISION!!! GO TO THE SEC!! DAKCMAN AP IS AWESOME!!! (Yelling in caps will always get the message across. ) :D

.

[Frazod]

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

Are you armed?

[Reerun_KC]

I heard the pac 12 plane was in Kansas City.

I would shit bricks and cry tears of joy while doing so...

F yeah, I would take KU, KSU, OU and OSU to the PAC 16..

In a heart beat....

[mnchiefsguy]

WVU's goldandbluezone is reporting on twitter that WVU is in regardless of what Mizzou does. Could that mean the SEC is going to go ahead and go for 16 teams? Who would #16 be? I don't see it, but if both Mizzou and WVU, I don't see how the SEC would stay at 15.

[vailpass]

I would shit bricks and cry tears of joy while doing so...

F yeah, I would take KU, KSU, OU and OSU to the PAC 16..

In a heart beat....

PAC 12 is a Pussy Conference. You can take that any way you want and still not be wrong.

[Reerun_KC]

Pussy Conference.

I agree. That conference is loaded with some top notch quality pussy...

Shit just look at the USC cheerleaders... :eek:


I would take that over the cesspool joke of the Big 10-1 = 9 conference we have now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

Yeah, write the words "Don't fuck this up, douchebags" on a rag stuffed in a glass bottle of petrol. Light said rag and throw it into the meeting.

[DaKCMan AP]

WVU's goldandbluezone is reporting on twitter that WVU is in regardless of what Mizzou does. Could that mean the SEC is going to go ahead and go for 16 teams? Who would #16 be? I don't see it, but if both Mizzou and WVU, I don't see how the SEC would stay at 15.

Not buying it.

[ChiTown]

WVU's goldandbluezone is reporting on twitter that WVU is in regardless of what Mizzou does. Could that mean the SEC is going to go ahead and go for 16 teams? Who would #16 be? I don't see it, but if both Mizzou and WVU, I don't see how the SEC would stay at 15.

I think it's crazy to go to 16 at this point vs 14. Why share that revenue when they are not forced to?

[mnchiefsguy]

Not buying it.

Not sure I buy it either, but they seem pretty confident about it. Not sure how reliable they are, or if they are as tied into the inner workings of WVU like they claim to be or not.

[Setsuna]

Not buying it.

Same. WVU will never come to the SEC. No one wants them and that's a freaking fact.

[vailpass]

Same. WVU will never come to the SEC. No one wants them and that's a freaking fact.

If WVU got an invite from the SEC they should drop whichever sister they are fucking, hitch up their overalls and come-a-runnin'.

Would the SEC stand to realize enough of an increase in revenue by switching to a 16 team conference to justify splitting the pot 16 ways?

[patteeu]

West Virginia would be the only union state in the SEC.

[DaKCMan AP]

Would the SEC stand to realize enough of an increase in revenue by switching to a 16 team conference to justify splitting the pot 16 ways?

Probably.

The new contract is going to be ridiculous. What they may do, though, is expand to 14 teams & renegotiate. Then wait a few years, expand to 16, and renegotiate again.

If they expand to 16 I could see them moving more towards adding NC State/Va Tech/Ga Tech/Clemson.. those types of schools, not WVU.

[vailpass]

Probably.

The new contract is going to be ridiculous. What they may do, though, is expand to 14 teams & renegotiate. Then wait a few years, expand to 16, and renegotiate again.

If they expand to 16 I could see them moving more towards adding NC State/Va Tech/Ga Tech/Clemson.. those types of schools, not WVU.

Thought I read SEC isn't up for a new deal for a few more years yet?
Are you saying everything I read on teh intrawebz isn't true?
Or if SEC expands does that mean they can renegotiate?

[WilliamTheIrish]

Not sure I buy it either, but they seem pretty confident about it. Not sure how reliable they are, or if they are as tied into the inner workings of WVU like they claim to be or not.

They do seem to have a guy or two who is connected. During the Huggins to WVU drama, they had a guy who I swear was so in touch with the up to minute goings on, it seemed like he was on the plane that landed in Manhattan to pick Huggs up.

[DaKCMan AP]

Thought I read SEC isn't up for a new deal for a few more years yet?
Are you saying everything I read on teh intrawebz isn't true?
Or if SEC expands does that mean they can renegotiate?

If they expand then they'll renegotiate.

[eazyb81]

Thought I read SEC isn't up for a new deal for a few more years yet?
Are you saying everything I read on teh intrawebz isn't true?
Or if SEC expands does that mean they can renegotiate?

Logic would tell you that they are not just expanding to have more mouths to feed.

Slive has already hinted that the contracts have look-in provisions that will allow for renegotiation with new teams.

Another possibility would be banding the tier 3 rights into a network, and dangling that as a carrot to ESPN or CBS if they renegotiate their Tier 1 or 2 deal.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Doesn't the SEC rotate the conference basketball tournament?

I'm guessing some of Mizzou's "eastern" friends have thought about the potential to host the tourney in STL on a rotational basis.

[eazyb81]

Doesn't the SEC rotate the conference basketball tournament?

I'm guessing some of Mizzou's "eastern" friends have thought about the potential to host the tourney in STL on a rotational basis.

Yeah I believe cities bid on it each year. I think St. Louis would definitely stand a good chance at getting in on the action.

[eazyb81]

Gabe just said on an interview that Alden received over 900 emails in one day regarding the conference realignment issue, with over 90% of them in favor of going to the SEC.

He said Gary Pinkel and the fanbase are the big drivers of the move.

Good interview with Clay Travis.

[Reerun_KC]

Gabe just said on an interview that Alden received over 900 emails in one day regarding the conference realignment issue, with over 90% of them in favor of going to the SEC.

He said Gary Pinkel and the fanbase are the big drivers of the move.

Good interview with Clay Travis.

Thats freaking awesome...

[mnchiefsguy]

Gabe just said on an interview that Alden received over 900 emails in one day regarding the conference realignment issue, with over 90% of them in favor of going to the SEC.

He said Gary Pinkel and the fanbase are the big drivers of the move.

Good interview with Clay Travis.

Sounds like the fans have spoken. Hopefully the curators have gotten the message, and hopefully Deaton won't sabatoge it.

[mnchiefsguy]

These folks seem to think WVU to SEC is a done deal:

http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-articles/october/wvu-to-sec-update-crossing-eyes-dotting-ts.html

Hope this is not true.

[DaKCMan AP]

Former Mountaineer quarterback Major Harris was quoted yesterday as saying that he was “hearing a little buzz about the SEC” but “that’s just people talking.” Could that be all it took to spawn the new chatter? Possibly.

Speaking to a well-positioned source inside an SEC institution today, we have been told — again — that the SEC did not deny WVU’s entry into the league when the school reached out to conference brass last month. But they weren’t bearhugged as Texas A&M was, either.

WVU remains a fallback choice due to the small population and small number of cable households inside its state borders. Academics are also an issue with some presidents in the league.

However, if Missouri stays in the Big 12, the rest of the landscape stabilizes, and the SEC faces multiple years as a 13-school league… then WVU might become a lot more attractive.

If that occurs, expect the SEC to tout WVU’s fan passion, similar culture, and its close proximity to Pittsburgh and other major metro areas as part of its spin.

For now — from what we’re hearing — it’s Missouri or bust. And the SEC isn’t sweating Mizzou’s decision. West Virginia remains a deep fallback option. The only other school that our sources continue to mention as a possibility is Florida State.

We trust our sources because they’ve been right in the past and because they’re coming from different areas of the league. But when it comes to the many variables and politics involved in conference expansion, we wouldn’t be shocked if the SEC announced the addition of North Dakota State this afternoon.

http://www.mrsec.com/

[HemiEd]

These folks seem to think WVU to SEC is a done deal:

http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-articles/october/wvu-to-sec-update-crossing-eyes-dotting-ts.html

Hope this is not true.

He is certainly right about this part: "West Virginians are used to being the punch-line in jokes, we’re used to being mocked and having stereotypes unfairly applied to us,"


Its not like they are "Okies" or "Arkies." :D

[mnchiefsguy]

Thanks for the link Dak, that makes a lot more sense.

Hasn't the curators meeting begun? I think it was scheduled to start around 1 or 2.

[Bambi]

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

[mnchiefsguy]

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

KK can shove it. Mizzou needs to do what is best for Mizzou, not what is best for Kansas City, KU, or KSU.

[Crush]

GabeDeArmond (http://twitter.com/#%21/GabeDeArmond) Gabe DeArmond



<s class="hash">#</s>Mizzou (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Mizzou) AD Mike Alden just arrived at Board of Curators meeting in St. Louis

[duncan_idaho]

KK sporting delusional drivel driven by his ksu homerism.

FYP

I'm much more skeptical about the SEC move than most Mizzou fans, but the picture Kietzmann paints is not realistic.

He's also either blatantly lying or listening to people who are blatantly wrong if he thinks a lot of the "highly placed people" at Mizzou don't want to move and aren't going to move.

The move is likely happening.

As Missouri fans, the thing to root for if that happens would be for Texas and Oklahoma to join the PAC and precipitate the destruction of the Big 12 (or at least radical change that severely reduces it as a BCS conference and force in the state of Texas).

Missouri is going to have a new challenge recruiting Texas, recruiting against the Big 12 conference affiliation most feel (outside Aggie fans). It's the same one Arkansas and LSU have struggled with.

Best thing that could happen to mitigate that would be the dissolution of the Big 12, reducing the competition with schools like oSu, Tech and Baylor for the next wave of talent.

[Frazod]

GabeDeArmond (http://twitter.com/#%21/GabeDeArmond) Gabe DeArmond



<s class="hash">#</s>Mizzou (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Mizzou) AD Mike Alden just arrived at Board of Curators meeting in St. Louis

Shit just got real

(somebody had to say it :D )

[eazyb81]

KK putting MU in their place, wow.

LMAO

It is awesome that the meme has gone from Mizzou has no chance of getting an SEC bid, to a move to the SEC will destroy Mizzou.

I love it.

[eazyb81]

KK: Poor Ryan Reynolds, he is stuck with Scarlett Johansson.

[mnchiefsguy]

KK says if he was a betting man, he would bet on Mizzou staying. That has to be a good sign right?

[Saulbadguy]

KK says if he was a betting man, he would bet on Mizzou staying. That has to be a good sign right?

There is a reason KK is "BITB" (best in the biz)

[mnchiefsguy]

There is a reason KK is "BITB" (best in the biz)

Not sure about that, but KK managed to find the only two callers in the state that seem to think the SEC would be a bad place to go.

[beer bacon]

Not sure about that, but KK managed to find the only two callers in the state that seem to think the SEC would be a bad place to go.

Keith is getting angry!

[HemiEd]

Not sure about that, but KK managed to find the only two callers in the state that seem to think the SEC would be a bad place to go.

I don't see how a move to the SEC would be a bad thing for Mizzou, seriously.

More power to them, and hopefully for their sake they can compete when they get there.

[Bambi]

Not sure about that, but KK managed to find the only two callers in the state that seem to think the SEC would be a bad place to go.

haha, that one call did seem kinda convenient....

[duncan_idaho]

There is a reason KK is "BITB" (best in the biz)

I thought that was Stan Weber (according to Kietz).

I actually like Stan, BTW. Other than his giant man-crush on Bill Snyder, he's pretty good.

[Bowser]

KK sounds all huffy, kinda like when the downtown baseball park idea flopped. I'm taking this as a good sign.

[eazyb81]

Loved the caller that asked KK how KSU was going to handle SEC speed this week. LMAO

It is so adorable when he throws tantrums like this.

[Bowser]

Loved the caller that asked KK how KSU was going to handle SEC speed this week. LMAO

It is so adorable when he throws tantrums like this.

Hahaha

[kstater]

TV contract sucks right?

<s>@</s>sptwri (http://twitter.com/#%21/sptwri): MU confirms FCS offered 11 am or 6 pm but MU declined

[Reaper16]

Doesn't the SEC rotate the conference basketball tournament?

I'm guessing some of Mizzou's "eastern" friends have thought about the potential to host the tourney in STL on a rotational basis.

Yeah I believe cities bid on it each year. I think St. Louis would definitely stand a good chance at getting in on the action.
Welp, that settles it for me. I am 100% against Mizzou to the SEC now.

[eazyb81]

The wait is killing me....

Gabe Dearmond
Interview room open at boc meeting but we are being told "there is no rush." 4 mics and a #Mizzou banner. Session still ongoing

[Priest31kc]

TV contract sucks right?

<s>@</s>sptwri (http://twitter.com/#%21/sptwri): MU confirms FCS offered 11 am or 6 pm but MU declined

Ya that is just pathetic. And I have FCS. Thanks alot Mizzou.

[kstater]

Ya that is just pathetic. And I have FCS. Thanks alot Mizzou.

They declined supposedly because of FCS's limited markets. Instead, they've decided to put it on in 0 markets.

[eazyb81]

They declined supposedly because of FCS's limited markets. Instead, they've decided to put it on in 0 markets.

LOL, no, they declined because FCS pays $0 for their telecasts and the only options were 11 or 6, when the preferred starting time for homecoming is 1pm.

Keep fighting the good fight bro.

[eazyb81]

Link to press conference starting up now.

http://www.komu.com/streaming-newscast/

[mnchiefsguy]

Hopefully we will know something soon.

[Bambi]

No more comments, just saw an article on 3rd Tier I thought was interesting and you might too:

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/05/06/school-specific-broadcasting-revenue/

Big 12

University of Kansas $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University $2,608,896.00
University of Texas $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma $317,361.00
University of Colorado $155,528.00
Texas Tech University $0.00
Texas A&M University $0.00
Baylor N/A

No wonder KU doesn't make any noise.

[eazyb81]

No wonder KU doesn't make any noise.

Remember you already posted that, and then everyone laughed at you. Again.

[Bambi]

Remember you already posted that, and then everyone laughed at you. Again.

I didn't post that. I just saw HH did. Makes sense now.

[mnchiefsguy]

Emails into KOMU seem to be overwhelming pro SEC. At least the ones they are reading on the air.

[eazyb81]

I didn't post that. I just saw HH did. Makes sense now.

No, you did back when you were trying to act like you knew anything about the realignment topics. You were made fun of relentlessly and slowly backed out of the thread for awhile.

[vailpass]

Remember you already posted that, and then everyone laughed at you. Again.

Wickeddumb and his busted hoop dreams is beyond laughing at.

[eazyb81]

ku/ksu phases of grief:

1. Mizzou will never get an SEC invite
2. Big 12 is great? Why would you want to leave?
3. Mizzou will get its ass kicked in the SEC.
4. Masturbate furiously alone in the corner.

[beer bacon]

Emails into KOMU seem to be overwhelming pro SEC. At least the ones they are reading on the air.

They requested a days worth and not a single one was pro Big 12.

[mnchiefsguy]

They requested a days worth and not a single one was pro Big 12.

I knew some of the curator emails had been requested...I was just talking about KOMU viewers who have been emailing in the station. They were reading some on the stream as we wait for the press conference.

[Rausch]

Mizzou has no real choice.

They stay in a neutered conference and get even less recognition when they play well/dominate.

They move to the SEC, get a pair of tits tattooed on their backs, and bite pillow on the bottom bunk for a decade or better...

[HemiEd]

Mizzou has no real choice.

They stay in a neutered conference and get even less recognition when they play well/dominate.

They move to the SEC, get a pair of tits tattooed on their backs, and bite pillow on the bottom bunk for a decade or better...

ROFL Is either those, now that you put it like that, desirable?

[|Zach|]

SEC or Big XII? Either way, my heart will go on. :)

[eazyb81]

sptwri Mike DeArmond
There are now 103 participants on the mu boc call. Cannot wait until they go to phones and everyone asks question at once. Tower of Babel

[mnchiefsguy]

sptwri Mike DeArmond
There are now 103 participants on the mu boc call. Cannot wait until they go to phones and everyone asks question at once. Tower of Babel

Sounds like folks are paying attention LOL.

[eazyb81]

All 20 people with internet access in West Virginia are on the KOMU chat.

[KcMizzou]

Jake_Trotter Jake Trotter
Have no idea what Missouri is about to announce. But I have been told that Sunday's call among Big 12 presidents "did not go well."

[eazyb81]

Think Mizzou fans are excited?

VaheGregorian
Teleconference call turned into cluster with Mizzou fans chanting SEC! SEC! SEC!

[Bambi]

No, you did back when you were trying to act like you knew anything about the realignment topics. You were made fun of relentlessly and slowly backed out of the thread for awhile.

huh?

I'm right here.

I'm bored of this. My school is very happy in this conference.

They win and make tons of $$.

I can see why Missouri fans want a change. I have been holding back on what I think of MU's chances in the SEC however.

All I've said is that your administrators seem to have a bit more sense than your fanbase.

[eazyb81]

here we go....

[Bambi]

Wickeddumb and his busted hoop dreams is beyond laughing at.

Busted?

KU's 3rd tier deal is 2nd largest in the conference behind Texas and its because of basketball.

Don't be mad.

[Bambi]

The MU administration is way too intelligent to listen to its fanbase.

[mnchiefsguy]

Just shut up and go away Wickeson.

Stupid KOMU stream is frozen. Hopefully whb will cut over and I can at least listen.

[Al Bundy]

huh?

I'm right here.

I'm bored of this. My school is very happy in this conference.

They win and make tons of $$.

I can see why Missouri fans want a change. I have been holding back on what I think of MU's chances in the SEC however.

All I've said is that your administrators seem to have a bit more sense than your fanbase.

I disagree with MU's chances of competing in football there. I believe that Pinkel will keep his Texas ties and will be able to tap into Florida now as well.

[Crush]

I think we've destroyed KOMU's server.

[MoreLemonPledge]

I think we've destroyed KOMU's server.

It's back up for me. Nothing happening, though.

[Mr. Plow]

Anything yet?

[Mosbonian]

The MU administration is way too intelligent to listen to its fanbase.

What's sad is your wildly apparent attempt at denial. Keep your fingers in your ears and yell "la, la, la, la,la, la" all you want.

[mnchiefsguy]

It's back up for me. Nothing happening, though.

I just get the picture of the MU banner, and the circle in the middle indicating it is buffering/loading.

[Saul Good]

Ole Miss
Miss St.
Tenn
Vandy
Georgia
Arkansas
South Carolina
Auburn
aTm
Kentucky

Other than 1 season with Cam Newton, none of the above schools have been appreciably better than Mizzou over the last decade, and Mizzou has beaten 2 of them in bowl games (SC and Ark) while owning one of them (aTm) in conference play.

There are 3 dominant teams in the SEC as opposed to 2 dominant teams in the Big XII. Mizzou will be fine.

[LiveSteam]

Anything yet?

Yes. Wickedson is a full blown Douche bag

[mnchiefsguy]

Pat Forde of espn tweeted six of the seven curators are in attendance. Which curator would miss such an important meeting?

[Dr. Gigglepants]

The news is off the air so the stream is down, the press conference will appear though once it starts.

[mnchiefsguy]

Ole Miss
Miss St.
Tenn
Vandy
Georgia
Arkansas
South Carolina
Auburn
aTm
Kentucky

Other than 1 season with Cam Newton, none of the above schools have been appreciably better than Mizzou over the last decade, and Mizzou has beaten 2 of them in bowl games (SC and Ark) while owning one of them (aTm) in conference play.

There are 3 dominant teams in the SEC as opposed to 2 dominant teams in the Big XII. Mizzou will be fine.

But KK says there are six dominant SEC teams and we have no chance!

I agree with you. I think Mizzou will have some struggles, but playing with big boys is the only way to get to the next level.

[Saul Good]

Pat Forde of espn tweeted six of the seven curators are in attendance. Which curator would miss such an important meeting?

One was late, but they are all there now, I believe.

[eazyb81]

Ole Miss
Miss St.
Tenn
Vandy
Georgia
Arkansas
South Carolina
Auburn
aTm
Kentucky

Other than 1 season with Cam Newton, none of the above schools have been appreciably better than Mizzou over the last decade, and Mizzou has beaten 2 of them in bowl games (SC and Ark) while owning one of them (aTm) in conference play.

There are 3 dominant teams in the SEC as opposed to 2 dominant teams in the Big XII. Mizzou will be fine.

We don't have any room for logic in here boy. Mizzou probably won't even have a football program by 2015 after not scoring a point during four years of SEC play.

[Mr. Plow]

Yes. Wickedson is a full blown Douche bag

That's helpful, thanks.

[Bambi]

Yes. Wickedson is a full blown Douche bag

I have a good time.

I don't celebrate the tragic deaths of people which got your boy banned.

fuck off and go play with your shitty football team

[Al Bundy]

But KK says there are six dominant SEC teams and we have no chance!

I agree with you. I think Mizzou will have some struggles, but playing with big boys is the only way to get to the next level.

He is somewhat bothered that he might have to do SEC coverage.

[LiveSteam]

That's helpful, thanks.

Any time :D

[eazyb81]

He is somewhat bothered that he might have to do SEC coverage.

No, he already said he's not going to cover the SEC. LMAO

[Bambi]

He is somewhat bothered that he might have to do SEC coverage.

Why would he cover the SEC?

KC is a KU town anyway.

[LiveSteam]

I have a good time.

I don't celebrate the tragic deaths of people which got your boy banned.

fuck off and go play with your shitty football team

Go jump off a NY high rise dickhead

[Rams Fan]

Why would he cover the SEC?

KC is a KU town anyway.

40/40/20 split.

[Bambi]

Go jump off a NY high rise dickhead

Too easy with Nebraska these days.

Go find something else to do.

[Mosbonian]

Why would he cover the SEC?

KC is a KU town anyway.

You really are in denial....the Kansas side of KC is all KU.

The only KU fans in KCMO are the interlopers that somehow escaped across the river.

[eazyb81]

40/40/20 split.

Dude he would know, he lives in Harlem.

[Bambi]

Are we really going to get into a discussion about whether KC has more KU or MU fans??

[Mr. Plow]

You really are in denial....the Kansas side of KC is all KU.

The only KU fans in KCMO are the interlopers that somehow escaped across the river.

This was proven as fact this past weekend at Worlds of Fun.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Kietzman is about to cry.

[Sassy Squatch]

This was proven as fact this past weekend at Worlds of Fun.
LMAO

[eazyb81]

KK just said the Big 12 is more stable than the SEC.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Dude is losing his shit live on air.

[Mr. Plow]

KK just said the Big 12 is more stable than the SEC.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

If by stable he means "Likely to collapse in the next 2-4 years" then yes....the Big 12 is more stable than the SEC.

[Al Bundy]

Furthermore KK doesn't know anything about the SEC. 6 OU's!!!!111

[Crush]

The BOC is now just cockteasing us.