New Conference re-alignment thread

[displacedinMN]

Has KU been invited to the B1G yet? ACC?
Mountain West? Missouri Valley?

MIAA?

[ChiTown]

That might add up to an OK football conference, and a decent basketball one.

Still would rather just shut down the Big 12.

So, you shut down the B12 Conf.....where is it that you think ku is going to land? They won't be going to a Power Conf any time soon. Realignent is about football, and ku isn't about football.

[Kiimo]

How are people this stupid still? Read the thread, slaver-U fans

[lawrenceRaider]

How are people this stupid still? Read the thread, slaver-U fans

In their defense, they went to MU, or have a totally unrelated reason for rooting for Slaver U.

[ChiTown]

In their defense, they went to MU, or have a totally unrelated reason for rooting for Slaver U.

I'm not an muTT Fan. My question is legit. Where are you going to go?

[tredadda]

I'm not an muTT Fan. My question is legit. Where are you going to go?

Apparently the B1G. It's all but set in stone at this point according to unnamed rumors.

[Bearcat]

I'm not an muTT Fan. My question is legit. Where are you going to go?

Why the capital Ts?

[lawrenceRaider]

Why the capital Ts?

Short bus.

[ChiTown]

Why the capital Ts?

Why not?

[lawrenceRaider]

I'm not an muTT Fan. My question is legit. Where are you going to go?

Apparently the B1G. It's all but set in stone at this point according to unnamed rumors.

I realize it really burns all y'all's asses that KU's basketball program is a bigger draw than your football programs, but that's the reality.

Sad truth is KU's football can't get worse, but our basketball program will continue to bring in more viewers than probably both your football programs combined.

[ChiTown]

I realize it really burns all y'all's asses that KU's basketball program is a bigger draw than your football programs, but that's the reality.

Sad truth is KU's football can't get worse, but our basketball program will continue to bring in more viewers than probably both your football programs combined.

JFC....You have some serious jilted lover stuff going on. The question is, where are you going to? If that's too difficult for you to answer, then so be it.

[tredadda]

I realize it really burns all y'all's asses that KU's basketball program is a bigger draw than your football programs, but that's the reality.

Sad truth is KU's football can't get worse, but our basketball program will continue to bring in more viewers than probably both your football programs combined.

I am actually glad KUs basketball program is great. I was born and raised in KC and them having a good program is good for KC.

[RustShack]

Apparently the B1G. It's all but set in stone at this point according to unnamed rumors.

When’s the announcement?

[tredadda]

When’s the announcement?

No clue. I am not a KU fan. I am just basing off of what is said here.

[BryanBusby]

It is likely more people in KC watch KU basketball than watch MU or KSU football

There are nearly 3 times as many basketball games.
Well the conferences will be rolling out the red carpet for KU. Any day now. Just you wait and see.

[sedated]

Max Olson on Twitter-

The Big 12's current preference in expansion discussions is adding four members, sources tell @TheAthletic.

BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston are considered the leading contenders. Still a lot of work to be done.

I just don't see how a conference call have schools in Utah/Idaho (Boise St), Florida, and West Virginia.

Those are some long flights, and the Big 12 already made scheduling concessions for WV so they could play 2 teams in the same week without having to go all the way back to WV in between.

[Chiefspants]

Well the conferences will be rolling out the red carpet for KU. Any day now. Just you wait and see.

It will clearly be KSU's fault for holding us back if such a scenario plays out.

[TribalElder]

ROFL KU fans still trying to hate on MU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany

Looks like the smartest decision ever now

uncertainty makes you cranky, try a snickers

[Sassy Squatch]

ROFL KU fans still trying to hate on MU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany

Looks like the smartest decision ever now

uncertainty makes you cranky, try a snickers
To be fair, it's mostly just Lawrence Raider that brings any actual hostility. Even PB is doing it for the lulz at this point.

[Prison Bitch]

ROFL KU fans still trying to hate on MU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany

Looks like the smartest decision ever now

uncertainty makes you cranky, try a snickers


Mizzouche sports is too irrelevant to hate.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Mizzouche sports is too irrelevant to hate.

And yet your last 4 posts in this thread, dating back a week, have nothing to do with conference realignment, rather referencing ‘Mizzouche’ as you like to say.

You may not ‘hate’ them, but you do seem a little obsessed with them . . . . .

[ChiTown]

It will clearly be KSU's fault for holding us back if such a scenario plays out.

https://c.tenor.com/U44R9obV_QsAAAAC/you-are-good-robert-deniro.gif

[Mr. Plow]

When’s the announcement?

Next year.

[lawrenceRaider]

Mizzouche sports is too irrelevant to hate.

The rivalry with KU was all they really had.

Of course without MU, KU football has been abysmal.

Hmm, it is a conundrum.

[KChiefs1]

The rivalry with KU was all they really had.

Of course without MU, KU football has been abysmal.

Hmm, it is a conundrum.


Mizzou obsession.

[Discuss Thrower]

The remainder of the Big XII should join with the Big East by either dropping their football programs to FCS or somehow convincing Butler, Georgetown and Villanova to move up.

[ROYC75]

I'm a tell'n ya, I say tell'n all my CP brothers & sisters, the 12, I say the Big 12, err Big 8 I say is expanding to the Big 12 again!

Damn ding dongs don't get it, just don't get it I say!. They just need to go with 4 more, it's just a matter of time many when many conferences will go to 16 teams just like the SEC did. Why? TV Contracts, gate draws. It's coming boys, your top major conferences in the next 20 years will be 16 team conferences.

The B12 made concessions on travel once with WV, reason too I say go with the 8 teams I mentioned, you get multiple games in an area for traveling during basketball season. Plus the pods I mentioned puts in you with some in state rivalries and closer traveling.

I just see more 16 teams conferences coming down the road!.

[Old Dog]

ROFL KU fans still trying to hate on MU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany



Pot/kettle (and I'm not a fan of either)

[RustShack]

BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston to the Big12 is basically a done deal.

It will be interesting to see if the schools are willing to sign a new GoR, or if they leave it open for when the B1G/PAC negations start in a few years.

ESPN may be a little more willing to keep payments higher than expected, or if they want a battle in court to keep Oklahoma and Texas in the Big12 through 2025/damages/breaking the bylaws/breaking the GoR/and so on.

[ChiefsCountry]

Cincinnati, West Virginia, UCF, Iowa St, Kansas St, and Kansas the new Big 12 East. BYU, Okie State, Tech, Baylor, TCU and Houston the new Big 12 West.

[sedated]

BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston to the Big12 is basically a done deal.

"Basically a done deal" has been so many times in this thread its going to start showing up in Google searches

[Sassy Squatch]

"Basically a done deal" has been so many times in this thread its going to start showing up in Google searches
At the very least, they're getting invited.

[ChiTown]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UCF, UH, BYU &amp; Cincy expected to apply for Big 12 membership next week &amp; league presidents have the votes to admit them next Friday, sources tell me &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/ByPatForde?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByPatForde</a>.<br><br>Plan is to join in 2023, conceivably before OU &amp; Texas leave, to create a 14-team league.<a href="https://t.co/okf7WGs0Tk">https://t.co/okf7WGs0Tk</a></p>&mdash; Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1433887015804698625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ocotillo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� Statement from the Big 12 Conference<a href="https://t.co/JreaTDu3hU">https://t.co/JreaTDu3hU</a></p>&mdash; Big 12 Conference (@Big12Conference) <a href="https://twitter.com/Big12Conference/status/1433912157687713797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BWillie]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UCF, UH, BYU &amp; Cincy expected to apply for Big 12 membership next week &amp; league presidents have the votes to admit them next Friday, sources tell me &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/ByPatForde?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByPatForde</a>.<br><br>Plan is to join in 2023, conceivably before OU &amp; Texas leave, to create a 14-team league.<a href="https://t.co/okf7WGs0Tk">https://t.co/okf7WGs0Tk</a></p>&mdash; Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1433887015804698625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.

[ROYC75]

Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.

They are not! Get off that damn horse, it's going to stop at the Missouri River and not cross it!

[TribalElder]

News just mentioned that KU plays football tonight

I didnt' realize they had a varsity team

[Pitt Gorilla]

Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.

Just saw an article stating that the Big 10 was considering expansion prior to the new "agreement" among conferences. They were no longer looking to expand.

[tredadda]

Just saw an article stating that the Big 10 was considering expansion prior to the new "agreement" among conferences. They were no longer looking to expand.

They honestly have no reason to expand.

[ROYC75]

News just mentioned that KU plays football tonight

I didnt' realize they had a varsity team

Going to take a couple of more years, but I do believe they have the coach to get us back to the Mangino days!

[ROYC75]

They honestly have no reason to expand.

True, they are good with a large recruiting base, TV contracts, etc.

Why add and split up the pie unless they can sell themselves as being BIGGER?

Here's the deal, after the B12 gets these 4 schools, who's left that is relevant to add to your excising conference to make it better?

[tredadda]

True, they are good with a large recruiting base, TV contracts, etc.

Why add and split up the pie unless they can sell themselves as being BIGGER?

Here's the deal, after the B12 gets these 4 schools, who's left that is relevant to add to your excising conference to make it better?

Notre Dame would be about it, but they would most likely go ACC before going to the B1G.

[Kiimo]

Is Quentin Grimes still at Houston

[Prison Bitch]

Is Quentin Grimes still at Houston

1st rounder of the Knicks


This proposed league looks exactly like the PAC, in terms of athletics. Not sure if that’s good or bad.

[FloridaMan88]

Apparently 8 of the 10 Big 12 schools have to vote yes for an expansion candidate to get approved.

Do OU and Texas get to vote?

[Titty Meat]

1st rounder of the Knicks


This proposed league looks exactly like the PAC, in terms of athletics. Not sure if that’s good or bad.

Your communication degree still is meaningless

[BryanBusby]

Apparently 8 of the 10 Big 12 schools have to vote yes for an expansion candidate to get approved.

Do OU and Texas get to vote?
Until they are no longer members, yes. They will leverage their votes to lower the buyout to exit early.

[kcclone]

1st rounder of the Knicks


This proposed league looks exactly like the PAC, in terms of athletics. Not sure if that’s good or bad.


Yes, the revamped B12 will be very similar to the Pac 12 in terms of athletic performance.

[Lzen]

News just mentioned that KU plays football tonight

I didnt' realize they had a varsity team

ROFL MU fans still trying to hate on KU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany

[ChiTown]

Until they are no longer members, yes. They will leverage their votes to lower the buyout to exit early.

OU and UT do not have a vote

[TribalElder]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[TomBarndtsTwin]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

[Prison Bitch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Uhh no FS1, K-STATE doesn’t ‘Rock Chalk’... <a href="https://t.co/ayjyM8q3k6">pic.twitter.com/ayjyM8q3k6</a></p>&mdash; Tyler Jones (@TylerJonesLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/TylerJonesLive/status/1434206000307912705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kiimo]

Hahaha

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meh, let them enjoy the moment; kansas fan doesn't really understand how to win.

[Kiimo]

Or let kids do whatever the fuck they want and don't try to gatekeep fun

[Chiefspants]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just let us have this.

[louie aguiar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Haha - that’s great

[Eleazar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas has stormed the field to celebrate their first win since 2019 <a href="https://t.co/t0pW9kN6y3">pic.twitter.com/t0pW9kN6y3</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1433998255394803714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Storming the field after beating an FCS team that hasn't had a winning record in 4 years

[Prison Bitch]

Aaron Rodgers is a huge KU football fan



http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/01/18/ku_bkc_osu_nk_04_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067

[Kiimo]

When I saw him wearing a man bun and getting engaged to a hippy actress who eats clay and suntans her vagina I knew he was one of us

[KChiefs1]

Storming the field after beating an FCS team that hasn't had a winning record in 4 years


I laughed but Jayhawks are pretty funny at football.

[Prison Bitch]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/932/723/a2f.gif

[Prison Bitch]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-aB-zhVQAU8nt4?format=jpg&name=large

[RustShack]

They won’t be waiting much longer.

[Prison Bitch]

They won’t be waiting much longer.

Hey man, awesome pic of your fam at the game yesterday


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-d2e4xWEAwpF8Q?format=jpg&name=medium

[RustShack]

Lol my family and I aren’t quite that old. Or big.

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO Can't even imagine how patronizing that was for the players after the fact. Having an extremely competitive game against an FCS team be treated like it's a championship win.

[Al Bundy]

USF fans are taking it pretty hard that UCF has left them in the dust.

[KChiefs1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-aB-zhVQAU8nt4?format=jpg&name=large


This week?

[RustShack]

USF fans are taking it pretty hard that UCF has left them in the dust.

I really don’t know what to think.

It will be a lot more clear if they sign or GoR or not.

It’s still possible in a year or two other conferences extended invites to the remaining 8(or at least 5-7 of them). They aren’t doing their negotiations yet. Their rights are up in 24(and Big12 in 25). There’s time. TCU was set to join the Big East(as was Iowa State) until they got the Big12 invite and the Big12 ended up surviving and Big East went away from football.

If conferences don’t expand, I think the Big12 does. Maybe adds Memphis and Boise St.

I really think Amazon is going to become a player and overpay for the Big12 if it stays together. That will open the door to other conferences in the future. They already have NFL Thursday Night Football, and are trying to get Sunday Ticket. The more football fans for them the better. They can also advertise said schools products, which I’ve been guilty of seeing a slick Chiefs or Cyclones item and buying.

My source said(about a month ago) than Amazon is interested in a 14-16 team Big12, and media footprint doesn’t matter to them. They want the large alumni base, avid fans, and more people seeing their ads and buying products from them. They also have triple the money of Disney/ESPN(who disney is already thinking about getting rid of).

It’s going to be an interesting next few years.

[Titty Meat]

USF fans are taking it pretty hard that UCF has left them in the dust.

Do you want frost back?

[Prison Bitch]

I really don’t know what to think.

It will be a lot more clear if they sign or GoR or not.

It’s still possible in a year or two other conferences extended invites to the remaining 8(or at least 5-7 of them). They aren’t doing their negotiations yet. Their rights are up in 24(and Big12 in 25). There’s time. TCU was set to join the Big East(as was Iowa State) until they got the Big12 invite and the Big12 ended up surviving and Big East went away from football.

If conferences don’t expand, I think the Big12 does. Maybe adds Memphis and Boise St.

I really think Amazon is going to become a player and overpay for the Big12 if it stays together. That will open the door to other conferences in the future. They already have NFL Thursday Night Football, and are trying to get Sunday Ticket. The more football fans for them the better. They can also advertise said schools products, which I’ve been guilty of seeing a slick Chiefs or Cyclones item and buying.

My source said(about a month ago) than Amazon is interested in a 14-16 team Big12, and media footprint doesn’t matter to them. They want the large alumni base, avid fans, and more people seeing their ads and buying products from them. They also have triple the money of Disney/ESPN(who disney is already thinking about getting rid of).

It’s going to be an interesting next few years.



If Amazon wanted that, why not do it with PAC? Their deal expires same time ours does, 2024. They have way better brands and superior markets. Plus Amazon is a West-coast high tech brand associates with those programs.


And I’m aware their sports suck (5 of the 6 North teams lost yesterday and Oregon survived at the end vs SDSU).

[RustShack]

If Amazon wanted that, why not do it with PAC? Their deal expires same time ours does, 2024. They have way better brands and superior markets. Plus Amazon is a West-coast high tech brand associates with those programs.


And I’m aware their sports suck (5 of the 6 North teams lost yesterday and Oregon survived at the end vs SDSU).

Maybe they reached out to the PAC as well, I don’t know. All I know is they have reached out to the Big12. They have the money to do both and more if they wanted.

I’m assuming going to Amazon has some risk, and at this point the Big12 may have to take some risks.

[Bearcat]

Or let kids do whatever the fuck they want and don't try to gatekeep fun

There was a running joke around here years ago... "The Algorithm" to determining whether it was okay for fans to storm.

I've always thought it was a weird flex, whether it's Kansas football or how Kansas BB aren't supposed to ever do it, or i KU fans making fun of KSU fans doing it in the octagon, etc.

One week people are flexing fandom because people in SoCal don't care to show up to sports, then the next week we're flexing because the Kansas fans who did show up had too much fun.

:spock:

[WilliamTheIrish]

I suck at teh intranets.
Bearcat
01-30-2010, 01:16 PM
Okay, KSU fans... of course, I hope you don't have to consult it, but here's your piece of the court storming algorithm if the Wildcats win...



// If it's a true home game for Kansas State...
if (homeTeam == KansasState) && (homeCourt == OctagonOfDoom)

// ...and they're playing Kansas
if (opponent == Kansas)

// If Kansas is in the top 5...
if (opponentRank < 5)

// ...and Kansas State is not in the Top 25...
if (homeTeamRank > 25)

//... it's obvious what you've got to do.
return(STORMTHEF***INGCOURT);

// But, if Kansas State is also in the top 25, it's a bit more complicated
else

// If the bookstore could use some help...
if (currYrDVDSales < prevYrDVDSales)

// ...it's the perfect ending to your DVD, to Aerosmith's Dream On
// Just tell the Beakers it was an emotional game, blah blah...
return(STORMTHEF***INGCOURT);

// If KSU pulls a Chalmers...
else if (lastHomeShot == miracle3)

// ...congrats, you just won your Super Bowl!
// Again, it was emotional, blah blah
return (STORMTHEF***INGCOURT);

// If you overcame Kansas and the refs...
else if (refs = Kansas8on5)

//Go ahead, but have some people boo the court storming
//to make it look like the majority of fans expected to win.
return (STORMTHEF***INGCOURT);

// If it's a blow out --- THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN
else if (marginOfVictory > 20)

//Tell people it was expected, you Arrogant Asshole K-State fans...
return (GoHome);

// If nothing else, talk classy; you let the players celebrate alone,
//you expected to win, it's just another tough B12 game, etc.
else

return(GoHome);



Holy crap.. 2010 LMAO

[Bearcat]

Holy crap.. 2010 LMAO

No idea why NASA never called back, given those programming skills.

[POND_OF_RED]

There was a running joke around here years ago... "The Algorithm" to determining whether it was okay for fans to storm.

I've always thought it was a weird flex, whether it's Kansas football or how Kansas BB aren't supposed to ever do it, or i KU fans making fun of KSU fans doing it in the octagon, etc.

One week people are flexing fandom because people in SoCal don't care to show up to sports, then the next week we're flexing because the Kansas fans who did show up had too much fun.

:spock:

Generally speaking it’s a pretty easy algorithm to follow when it’s an FBS vs FCS matchup. I don’t think anyone can think of another FBS school to storm the field against an FCS opponent and Kansas fans have now done it twice. LMAO:LOL:ROFL

Maybe an FCS move would be the smart thing for them in the long run with all this realignment focusing on football programs.

[RustShack]

And Kansas thinks they are going to the B1G.

[KChiefs1]

And Kansas thinks they are going to the B1G.


No chance.

[ROYC75]

And Kansas thinks they are going to the B1G.

I don't believe this for 1 bit nor do I wish for it to be true!

[TambaBerry]

No chance.

i would bet a lot of money that KU ends up in a different conference. Most likely the BIG

[BWillie]

And Kansas thinks they are going to the B1G.

They are.

[Kiimo]

And Kansas thinks they are going to the B1G.

It's gonna take a while but yeah

[BryanBusby]

They are taking extra time to put glitter allover the invite since they like art and shit.

[Kiimo]

They're taking extra time to see if KU's football program improves and if they re-commit to upgrading the stadium.


And let everyone chill out a year

[Prison Bitch]

i would bet a lot of money that KU ends up in a different conference. Most likely the BIG

CBS reporting the Big 3.0 will get 20-25M per on their tv deal. That’s about the $30M the PAC and ACC get so monetarily there’s not any incentive to move there for any of the schools. BIG is 54M but there’s no evidence they’re making any moves.

Seems like fan fiction.

[Prison Bitch]

They're taking extra time to see if KU's football program improves and if they re-commit to upgrading the stadium.


And let everyone chill out a year


Nobody is going to give a dime to that project unless there’s a BIG offer first.

[JakeF]

The conferences are going to all be destroyed because of the new P2W aspect of College football. Money college will probably end up creating their own league.

Division 1 will probably end up with half as many colleges as it has now. KU doesn't have the money to compete with big money colleges. The ivy league will get better and better since recruiter will now be auction day. Highest bidder win the most talent.

[Prison Bitch]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-pnJJKXsAIqJc-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[GloucesterChief]

The conferences are going to all be destroyed because of the new P2W aspect of College football. Money college will probably end up creating their own league.

Division 1 will probably end up with half as many colleges as it has now. KU doesn't have the money to compete with big money colleges. The ivy league will get better and better since recruiter will now be auction day. Highest bidder win the most talent.

Eh. The Ivy league donors probably don't care that much about football. Cal and Stanford should be powerhouses but they aren't because the donors to the athletic department favor Olympic sports over football and basketball.

[JakeF]

Eh. The Ivy league donors probably don't care that much about football. Cal and Stanford should be powerhouses but they aren't because the donors to the athletic department favor Olympic sports over football and basketball. The Alumni are really that apathetic? Wow, they could absolutely dominate if they wanted. Colleges like Duke should be great too.

Traditional power schools like Nebraska are going to take it in the shorts imo. They just don't have enough rich alumi.

I think that colleges might start dropping a bunch of sports that don't make them money too. Title IX makes them keep some girls sports. So Basketball for Guys and Girls. Football for guys, gymnastic for girls. The rest could get dumped. Would girl's volleyball bring in more money than gymnastics? I have no idea if either makes any money.

[KChiefs1]

The conferences are going to all be destroyed because of the new P2W aspect of College football. Money college will probably end up creating their own league.

Division 1 will probably end up with half as many colleges as it has now. KU doesn't have the money to compete with big money colleges. The ivy league will get better and better since recruiter will now be auction day. Highest bidder win the most talent.


Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.

[Prison Bitch]

Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.

I read this post 3x, just so I could fully appreciate the total stupidity therein.

[BWillie]

I read this post 3x, just so I could fully appreciate the total stupidity therein.

I mean, that's kind of what the Big East is no?

[Prison Bitch]

I mean, that's kind of what the Big East is no?

Yeah, and no one is going there.

[Titty Meat]

Wasnt KU supposed to do some big renovation about s decade ago? Or was the tacky looking end zone thing the big project?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Wasnt KU supposed to do some big renovation about s decade ago? Or was the tacky looking end zone thing the big project?

http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2008/06/24/ku_ftball_luxury_seating_horizontal_t420.jpg?a3366258a5db61803f290080ed4b598df759c2dd

Not-so-cheap seats

New luxury section princely, pricey

http://m.kusports.com/news/2008/jun/24/notsocheap_seats/

[Titty Meat]

http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2008/06/24/ku_ftball_luxury_seating_horizontal_t420.jpg?a3366258a5db61803f290080ed4b598df759c2dd

Not-so-cheap seats

New luxury section princely, pricey

http://m.kusports.com/news/2008/jun/24/notsocheap_seats/

Yeah looks like shit

[BWillie]

Wasnt KU supposed to do some big renovation about s decade ago? Or was the tacky looking end zone thing the big project?

We took out the fucking track okay? What more do you want from us?

[Prison Bitch]

Wasnt KU supposed to do some big renovation about s decade ago? Or was the tacky looking end zone thing the big project?

Really, it’s a bad idea to throw good $ after bad. It’s irresponible, it can go to better uses like charity or scholarships for academics.



Mizzouche wasted like $200M upgrading their stadium and it’s still 1/3 empty on game day, and they lose more than they win.

[Mr. Plow]

I read this post 3x, just so I could fully appreciate the total stupidity therein.

We gotta up our football thread post counts.

[sedated]

Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.

Because football is a...bad...investment?

<img src="https://c.tenor.com/6LUUwGZ7eRwAAAAd/tom-cruise-what.gif" height=300>

[Hoover]

Because football is a...bad...investment?

<img src="https://c.tenor.com/6LUUwGZ7eRwAAAAd/tom-cruise-what.gif" height=300>
Popularity of football is what makes these TV king, beyond that all the drivers of price are the same, so even if your just a basketball school, you still want to be in a big time conference because its going to get you the most money.

[Rams Fan]

Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.

Not true at all, but OK.

[RustShack]

Obviously things can change, but it’s sounding like as of now they are planning on the four joining 2023. Plan on it being a 14 team league with Texas and Oklahoma. Then adding more to join when Texas and Oklahoma leave.

Kind of lines up with Amazon being interested in a 14-16 team Big12. My guess is Big12 doesn’t want to go more than 14(and well why would you unless the PAC wants to jump ship).

Also makes it seem like the GoR is going to be harder for Texas and OU to get out of than everyones assumed. Personally I’ve never understood why people think CBS would be fine with paying Texas and Oklahoma a buttload of money for a year or two when ESPN is taking over their media rights.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

The conferences are going to all be destroyed because of the new P2W aspect of College football. Money college will probably end up creating their own league.

Division 1 will probably end up with half as many colleges as it has now. KU doesn't have the money to compete with big money colleges. The ivy league will get better and better since recruiter will now be auction day. Highest bidder win the most talent.

Jake,

The Ivy League have no interest in playing big time CFB. They stopped doing so in the 1950s. They won't even participate in the FCS playoffs.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

They are.

They are if they find a partner to join with.

That is the holdup. Iowa State doesn't bring a new market. Okie Lite isn't a big enough brand or has the academic clout.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

USF fans are taking it pretty hard that UCF has left them in the dust.

They should be.

Now when USF was in the Big East, they blocked UCF from joining.

The tables have dramatically shifted.

[ChiTown]

They are if they find a partner to join with.

That is the holdup. Iowa State doesn't bring a new market. Okie Lite isn't a big enough brand or has the academic clout.

The ONLY people that are convinced that ku is going to the B1G are The ku Scoopmeister and his legion of tards.

[TambaBerry]

The ONLY people that are convinced that ku is going to the B1G are The ku Scoopmeister and his legion of tards.

Ok lol you're a ksu fan right

[TribalElder]

The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.

[TribalElder]

Guessing the Big whatever schools will be staying in the big whatever now

[KChiefs1]

The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.


I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.

[ChiTown]

Ok lol you're a ksu fan right

Yes, but unlike you, I fully understand what our position was/is in realignment. We were ****ed 9 ways to Sunday when OUT left. But hey, if you want to close your eyes real hard and dream about getting an imaginary invite and joining the B1G, God bless ya and sweet dreams.

[ChiTown]

I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.

Anyone that would argue otherwise is a complete idiot. It does, however, provide some stability (however temporary) to a completely awful situation. It could also be argued that it is somewhat on par with the PAC.

[ChiTown]

Also, this was pretty funny....
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/GoBearcatsMBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GoBearcatsMBB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BYUMBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BYUMBB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/UHCougarMBK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UHCougarMBK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/UCF_MBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UCF_MBB</a> - Welcome to the <a href="https://twitter.com/Big12Conference?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Big12Conference</a> … one note, <a href="https://twitter.com/KUHoops?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KUHoops</a> is already in the Bonus 😂</p>&mdash; Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1436327382638469126?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ping2000]

Also, this was pretty funny....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/GoBearcatsMBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GoBearcatsMBB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BYUMBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BYUMBB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/UHCougarMBK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UHCougarMBK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/UCF_MBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UCF_MBB</a> - Welcome to the <a href="https://twitter.com/Big12Conference?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Big12Conference</a> … one note, <a href="https://twitter.com/KUHoops?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KUHoops</a> is already in the Bonus [emoji23]</p>— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1436327382638469126?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Except Gotlieb is a soreloser prick.

[ROYC75]

Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.


Somewhere between B and y yur brain wasn't functioning here!

You should have said something like, Bring your football money! Anything other than what you typed.

[TambaBerry]

Yes, but unlike you, I fully understand what our position was/is in realignment. We were ****ed 9 ways to Sunday when OUT left. But hey, if you want to close your eyes real hard and dream about getting an imaginary invite and joining the B1G, God bless ya and sweet dreams.

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.

[ROYC75]

I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.

That is going to make for a competitive league from top to bottom once.

[ROYC75]

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.


B12 screwed up by not adding 4 more, going to 16 teams

Should have went after USF, Boise State, and whomever else they could pry away, Notre Dame, Colorado, Utah, Memphis ( but only basketball purposes ) Coastal Carolina. Anybody that could pull some football revenue and /or a large basketball revenue with a mediocre football market..

[BWillie]

Is the Sprint Center allowed to serve caffeinated beverages if there is a BYU game?

[ChiTown]

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.

I think the SEC is done for a while, until they can get FSU and Clemson to jump ship from the ACC GoR. That deal goes thru 2036.

I think the B1G will absolutely be on the prowl, but I also think they are looking West toward the PAC - that Conf is pretty vulnerable right now.

[tredadda]

B12 screwed up by not adding 4 more, going to 16 teams

Should have went after USF, Boise State, and whomever else they could pry away, Notre Dame, Colorado, Utah, Memphis ( but only basketball purposes ) Coastal Carolina. Anybody that could pull some football revenue and /or a large basketball revenue with a mediocre football market..

Zero chance they get ND. If the B1G can't get them, the leftovers of the Big 12 surely won't. Not sure if you meant Colorado State as well because I see zero chance the Colorado would rejoin.

[Prison Bitch]

Except Gotlieb is a soreloser prick.

He’s wrong anyway. Kevin Queefman used to pitch this canard all the time, then someone in the KU board analyzed like 3 conf seasons of KU games. Found that like 75% of the free throw disparity happened in the final 2 min of the game when opponents purposefully fouled KU to stop the clock.

[Pitt Gorilla]

The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.

Replacing OK and TX with city schools? Yikes.

[Lzen]

There was a running joke around here years ago... "The Algorithm" to determining whether it was okay for fans to storm.

I've always thought it was a weird flex, whether it's Kansas football or how Kansas BB aren't supposed to ever do it, or i KU fans making fun of KSU fans doing it in the octagon, etc.

One week people are flexing fandom because people in SoCal don't care to show up to sports, then the next week we're flexing because the Kansas fans who did show up had too much fun.

:spock:

It's pretty simple. Our rivals (or former rivals) will use anything to point and laugh at us. I suppose we do it to them, as well. It's sad that KU football has fallen this far from the Mangino days but this is what we're reduced to doing. /sigh

[Prison Bitch]

Replacing OK and TX with city schools? Yikes.

All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche

[ROYC75]

Zero chance they get ND. If the B1G can't get them, the leftovers of the Big 12 surely won't. Not sure if you meant Colorado State as well because I see zero chance the Colorado would rejoin.

I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.

[lawrenceRaider]

All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche

Fairly low bar.

[POND_OF_RED]

I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.

Lol at the Big 12 getting ND or any big schools right now. When your ship is sinking you don’t try and net a whale, you just try to keep the thing afloat for as long as you can.

[Prison Bitch]

Fairly low bar.

Fair point.

Your comment got me to thinking: how do the 4 adds stack up against locals like MU, KSU, and the Rust Shacks? Quite well in fact. If you look at their revenues (2019) and subtract out the conf payouts, they’re all the same.


MU: 106M. Less 45M SEC payout = 61M stand-alone
ISU: 95M. Less 37M B12 = 58M
KSU; 89M. Less 37M B12 = 52M


Four Adds all ~70M less $7M league payouts. So each is $60M stand-alone, or identical to the 3 local schools (far below Kansas obv)

[Dante84]

I wonder if the remaining 8 will come out ahead in some capacity since they aren't having to give such a huge chunk of the pie to the OU/TX overlords?

Clearly not as strong a brand with the two huge programs leaving and four mid-tier programs joining, but what will the net outcome be financially for the remaining 8?

[Prison Bitch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/kMui3RUcPX">pic.twitter.com/kMui3RUcPX</a></p>&mdash; UCF Knights (@UCFKnights) <a href="https://twitter.com/UCFKnights/status/1436329824012800003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BWillie]

Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.

[ChiTown]

Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.

It had more to do with cultural fit with the PAC than anything else. Athletically, it’s been a horrible move.

[Sassy Squatch]

Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.
They were in that group of 6 the PAC 10 was after to make it the PAC 16 back in 2010. Accepted the invite regardless of the fact the other 5 didn't end up coming.

[tredadda]

I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.

Yeah, I see your argument but Colorado jumped ship due to cultural fit more than anything. Can't see them changing on that. It's best for the Big 12 to expand east to support WVU versus going farther west, unless they can snag a bigger fish like BYU which they were able to do.

[TribalElder]

ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

[Titty Meat]

All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche

Remember when you had inside info ku to the acc lol

[Stewie]

After thinking about this for a while I like the additions. Good mix with interesting dynamics.

Heck, our head coach and best players on offense are from schools in the new Big 12.

[Prison Bitch]

ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL


You have it backwards. It’s MU fans mocking the B12 and the additions. We are simply pointing out that you’re no better athletically, nor do you generate any more income on your own, than these schools.


It’s great to get a fat check from the SEC. but you haven’t explained how MU itself is better.

[lawrenceRaider]

ROFL Mizzou is a doormat in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

FYP.

[lawrenceRaider]

You have it backwards. It’s MU fans mocking the B13 and the additions. We are simply pointing out that you’re no better athletically, nor do you generate any more income on your own, than these schools.


It’s great to get a fat check from the SEC. but you haven’t explained how MU itself is better.

When all your school has is SEC, SEC, SEC, it is an admission of having given up on the actual school and living vicariously through the better teams in the SEC.

[Prison Bitch]

When all your school has is SEC, SEC, SEC, it is an admission of having given up on the actual school and living vicariously through the better teams in the SEC.

I’ve alwsys found it weird when fans brag about money. I honestly didn’t know people actually did that until I discovered the internet.

[GloucesterChief]

It had more to do with cultural fit with the PAC than anything else. Athletically, it’s been a horrible move.

Like CU, most of the PAC12 schools are located in fairly urban metro areas. The only exceptions are Wazzu and to a lesser extent Oregon State.

[lcarus]

I like the additions of Houston and Cincinnati. I would rather have Wichita State and either Tulsa or Memphis over UCF and BYU. That would be a pretty good basketball conference.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.

Colorado is not leaving the PAC 12 where they fit culturally to rejoin a depleted B12 that lost their biggest rival in Nebraska. The PAC 12 is struggling but it is shielded from poaching by its location.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

B12 screwed up by not adding 4 more, going to 16 teams

Should have went after USF, Boise State, and whomever else they could pry away, Notre Dame, Colorado, Utah, Memphis ( but only basketball purposes ) Coastal Carolina. Anybody that could pull some football revenue and /or a large basketball revenue with a mediocre football market..

How? They need to establish some brand stability before expanding more.

Let's look at your list:

ND: ROFL Never happening. They will join the ACC first.
Colorado isn't returning
Utah isn't leaving the stable PAC 12 to join the same conference as BYU.
Memphis will be available whenever the BIG 12 wishes to pluck it.
Coastal Carolina had ONE GOOD SEASON. You don't make expansion decisions off a single season and a COVID season at that.
USF: Why? The school is struggling and UCF brings the Florida market well enough. The War on I-4 is a great rivalry but it has little national cache.
Boise State is a regional academic school and their football luster is wearing off. Like Memphis, the BIG 12 can pluck them whenever they please.

[lawrenceRaider]

I like the additions of Houston and Cincinnati. I would rather have Wichita State and either Tulsa or Memphis over UCF and BYU. That would be a pretty good basketball conference.

Really? WITF would any serious conference want WSU? KU is pathetic at football, but at least we have football.

Tulsa has zero pull due to proximity of OSU.

UCF and BYU both bring many more eyes for TV than Memphis.

Do you not understand TV economics?

[BWillie]

ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

Antifreeze.

Chug it.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Really? WITF would any serious conference want WSU? KU is pathetic at football, but at least we have football.

Tulsa has zero pull due to proximity of OSU.

UCF and BYU both bring many more eyes for TV than Memphis.

Do you not understand TV economics?


Wichita State has value to conferences like the A-10 and Big East. But not to a P5 conference. P5 conferences don't do associate members for football or basketball.

Tulsa is a great story. Small little private school that has historically punched above its weight class but they don't bring anything to the BIG 12.

Memphis would be a fine addition to the BIG 12. They just happened to be the fifth best option where there were only four slots.

[Stewie]

I assume the 2 divisions will be the Texas schools and BYU in the west and the rest in the east.

[BWillie]

How? They need to establish some brand stability before expanding more.

Let's look at your list:

ND: ROFL Never happening. They will join the ACC first.
Colorado isn't returning
Utah isn't leaving the stable PAC 12 to join the same conference as BYU.
Memphis will be available whenever the BIG 12 wishes to pluck it.
Coastal Carolina had ONE GOOD SEASON. You don't make expansion decisions off a single season and a COVID season at that.
USF: Why? The school is struggling and UCF brings the Florida market well enough. The War on I-4 is a great rivalry but it has little national cache.
Boise State is a regional academic school and their football luster is wearing off. Like Memphis, the BIG 12 can pluck them whenever they please.

Why not poach the Big East? Is their football really that bad? I'd like to get some nice bball programs in here. U-Conn would be cool.

Not sure why Villanova doesn't want to try to get into FBS football, but maybe down the road for them.

I think BYU is a HUUUGE get. But not too jazzed on the other three. But honestly they are the best possible 4 we could probably hope for that aren't already in P5 conferences.

I don't know that I'd look to expand as it may water down the conference even further, but here is where I would look, in order:
U-Conn
Boise State
Memphis
Colorado State
South Florida
UAB
Temple
Wyoming

Obviously not much there. I think the Big 12 did pretty well

[WilliamTheIrish]

ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

Hilarious is joining a conference, then a decade later cheering as that conference adds not one, but two really premier football programs (that MUtts have been using as an excuse to leave their previous conference and calling those programs weak and non CFP worthy).

But, as is the way of the MUtt, you can always stand on the shoulders of tall folks to watch the parade as a “so happy to be here”, but utterly impotent participant.

[TribalElder]

ROFL still going

beaks just keep going

ROFL

big whatever is gonna end up getting relegated out of the power 5 LMAO

[lawrenceRaider]

ROFL still going

beaks just keep going

ROFL

big whatever is gonna end up getting relegated out of the power 5 LMAO

KU could be in the SWMESW conference and we would still be a better athletic program than MU just on our basketball program.

[BWillie]

ROFL still going

beaks just keep going

ROFL

big whatever is gonna end up getting relegated out of the power 5 LMAO

Perhaps this is of interest to you.

Wall Street Journal College Football Value Rankings:https://graphics.wsj.com/table/NCAA_2019

1. Texas
2. Ohio State
3. Alabama
4. Michigan
5. Notre Dame
--------------
29. Kansas State
30. Oklahoma State
39. Kansas
43. Iowa State
56. Missouri
60. BYU
65. Central Florida

KU football program alone is valued higher than Missouri even DESPITE not being in the SEC. KU Football is a sleeping giant, meaning if they can figure out how to ever even be perennially .500 they are going to churn $$$

Now the loss of Texas and OU hurt - no doubt - but the loss of Missouri is not even a big deal. Big 12 just invited two teams of similar value to Missouri to the conference.

[TribalElder]

KU could be in the SWMESW conference and we would still be a better athletic program than MU just on our basketball program.

You gotta be the worst person in this thread

A raider fan and a beaker

ROFL

[RustShack]

ROFL still going

beaks just keep going

ROFL

big whatever is gonna end up getting relegated out of the power 5 LMAO

That isn’t happening. The Big12 is legally one of the five autonomy conferences. P5 is a media label. If anything, the Big12 made the gap between P5 and G5 larger. On top of that, the Pac12 and ACC isn’t much if any better than this new Big12 overall.

[Prison Bitch]

Perhaps this is of interest to you.

Wall Street Journal College Football Value Rankings:https://graphics.wsj.com/table/NCAA_2019

1. Texas
2. Ohio State
3. Alabama
4. Michigan
5. Notre Dame
--------------
29. Kansas State
30. Oklahoma State
39. Kansas
43. Iowa State
56. Missouri
60. BYU
65. Central Florida

KU football program alone is valued higher than Missouri even DESPITE not being in the SEC. KU Football is a sleeping giant, meaning if they can figure out how to ever even be perennially .500 they are going to churn $$$

Now the loss of Texas and OU hurt - no doubt - but the loss of Missouri is not even a big deal. Big 12 just invited two teams of similar value to Missouri to the conference.



As I’ve posted, the hoops value is $320m at Kansas. So combined, Kansas athletics is worth 2x any other school in the B3.0. (A whopping 10x what Mizzouche worth, tho that’ll change with the new SEC deal)

[ROYC75]

Yeah, I see your argument but Colorado jumped ship due to cultural fit more than anything. Can't see them changing on that. It's best for the Big 12 to expand east to support WVU versus going farther west, unless they can snag a bigger fish like BYU which they were able to do.

BYU, done, Boise State is next!

It had more to do with cultural fit with the PAC than anything else. Athletically, it’s been a horrible move.

Colorado is not leaving the PAC 12 where they fit culturally to rejoin a depleted B12 that lost their biggest rival in Nebraska. The PAC 12 is struggling but it is shielded from poaching by its location.

IMHO, cutural fit has nothing to do with it anymore, it's all about $$$

How? They need to establish some brand stability before expanding more.

Let's look at your list:

ND: ROFL Never happening. They will join the ACC first.

Very well could be true, but I also said, " I knew/know ND will not do it," . So stop trying to make yourself look better by thinking you just staged yourself, 1 up ! I already covered that statement. But enjoy your belly laugh that you somehow showed up a comment when I mentioned it was merely attempting to be aggresive!


Colorado isn't returning
Utah isn't leaving the stable PAC 12 to join the same conference as BYU.
Memphis will be available whenever the BIG 12 wishes to pluck it.
Coastal Carolina had ONE GOOD SEASON. You don't make expansion decisions off a single season and a COVID season at that.
USF: Why? The school is struggling and UCF brings the Florida market well enough. The War on I-4 is a great rivalry but it has little national cache.
Boise State is a regional academic school and their football luster is wearing off. Like Memphis, the BIG 12 can pluck them whenever they please.

Please don't give me the cultural BS when $$$ is driving the bus here. Colorado could jump back if they think they could get relevant on competing again, more money than the dormant PAC 12, additional schools in their area, BYU,Boise State, maybe Wyoming, Damn, who knows, maybe Co State too.
I already mentioned Memphis as basketball only, their football is almost on KU's level, not there, but almost. All KU has to do is start winning again, it will take care of itself, I know, tall order.
I'll give you a Coastal Carolina, but again, see the argument with USF,UCF, WV,

Why USF? Miami, another east coast school to go with UCF, WV ? Goes without saying that it's the TV markets driving this thing!

Not on your opinion of laughter " Oh shit, now that's funny "!

[Stewie]

ROFL still going

beaks just keep going

ROFL

big whatever is gonna end up getting relegated out of the power 5 LMAO


The story of the big SEC event after MU was brought in:


SEC exec: Welcome to the kickoff event of the new SEC!


MU representative: Thanks! This is quite impressive, especially the food buffet.


SEC exec: Yes! We pride ourselves on our football and food culture. Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Florida supplied all the seafood and delicious sides. The other schools provided great appetizers and drinks.


MU rep: I can't wait for our committee to dive in to all the great food and eventually the great football.


SEC exec: So, what did MU bring to the buffet?


MU rep: Toast and popsicles.


SEC exec: That's awesome. Your seats are over there at the card table.


MU rep: That's in the corner and so far away. And metal folding chairs?


SEC exec: We call it the "bring us some real food and football" area.


MU rep: Ah! I think the food we brought is the same as the football.


SEC exec: Huh? Excuse me. Important SEC stuff going on over there.

[ROYC75]

This thread is getting away from football related, conferences realignments to an MU vs KU chest thumping, dick swinging contest that literally has no relevance at all!

It's freaking petty! We all should have been over this shit years ago when MU left to be the doormat to the SEC for more money! They left, they have their money, all of the fan base is happy and yet the KU folks are wanting to laugh at MU for going to the bank! :shake:

Personally, anybody wants to laugh at me for taking my money to the bank can just ****ing laugh, the joke is on them!

As for MU laughing at KU for sucking in the B12, or the fate of what the B12 is, really shouldn't throw stones at them. Literally you went from being relevant in the B12 to laughing stock of the SEC ( B12 or any other school excluded of course, $$$ ). MU is just another yearly win for the Power schools of the SEC in football and has been in basketball until this past year.

Hardly anything to write home about to Mom or Dad from campus, or to talk about around the dinner table.

For it to take away from a perfectly good thread to discuss the probability of what has, is or about to happen or even could happen, just for you to literally take aim at a school's ability/inability or at somebody else's shape/position is just as bad the position you are in yourself.

Petty shit .... now carry on children, try to play nice while the men talk!

[Stewie]

This thread is getting away from football related, conferences realignments

You're a bore.

[ROYC75]

You're a bore.

I know, I have my moments, guess I'm not as much like Eastwood than I thought!

[GloucesterChief]

Boise State is absolute trash outside football and that has been declining as well.

[Bearcat]

This thread is getting away from football related, conferences realignments to an MU vs KU chest thumping, dick swinging contest that literally has no relevance at all!

It's freaking petty! We all should have been over this shit years ago when MU left to be the doormat to the SEC for more money! They left, they have their money, all of the fan base is happy and yet the KU folks are wanting to laugh at MU for going to the bank! :shake:

I don't blame MU for leaving... I've always laughed at these threads, especially in the realm of football, because it's the equivalent of Browns fans spending hours on end telling Lions fans how much better they are, etc.

[Prison Bitch]

I assume the 2 divisions will be the Texas schools and BYU in the west and the rest in the east.

No. They’ll split the Texas schools.

[TribalElder]

Perhaps this is of interest to you.


it doesn't

ROFL

[BWillie]

it doesn't

ROFL

I figured you would your head in the sand when you found out KU's football program is valued higher than Methzou's

[RustShack]

No. They’ll split the Texas schools.

They could, but it’s not as important as people make it out to be. 11 other teams in the conference, you play 9 of them a year if not more. Most conferences played 10 conference games last year, Big12 was the first to go to 9 conference games and others followed.

[Eleazar]

Looks more like the AAC than a “power 5” conference now

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Why not poach the Big East? Is their football really that bad? I'd like to get some nice bball programs in here. U-Conn would be cool.

Not sure why Villanova doesn't want to try to get into FBS football, but maybe down the road for them.

I think BYU is a HUUUGE get. But not too jazzed on the other three. But honestly they are the best possible 4 we could probably hope for that aren't already in P5 conferences.

I don't know that I'd look to expand as it may water down the conference even further, but here is where I would look, in order:
U-Conn
Boise State
Memphis
Colorado State
South Florida
UAB
Temple
Wyoming

Obviously not much there. I think the Big 12 did pretty well

The Big East doesn't sponsor football anymore.

UConn's football is a disaster.

About Big East teams joining: 1. P5 conferences aren't into associate members for basketball. 2. The Big East, along with the MAC, is probably the most tightly knit conference in the land. They are mostly all urban, Catholic schools that aren't leaving their cozy conclaves to join a midwestern conference. And they want nothing to do with football schools. That is why the Catholic schools broke away with the Big East name in the first place and left the remaining schools to form the AAC.

Villanova is all about basketball. They had a chance to join the Big East in football in the 2000s. Their pitch included a Powerpoint and a proposal to play in a 15,000 seat soccer stadium. They are happy enough to keep football in FCS world.

BYU is huge. The PAC 12 should have grabbed them but the California schools aren't tolerant enough to let Mormons into their country club. Houston is a solid school. Cincy has shown immense growth and UCF might be the next coming of 80s Miami. They are ambitious and aggressive.

Your list is certainly more realistic than most. I would place Memphis as the #1 candidate. UConn is too far ahead and football is pathetic. Temple has the same issues. Wyoming just isn't good enough yet. Colorado State has a glorious new OCS but they haven't won enough. Boise State doesn't have the academics and their recent football success is faltering. UAB has the potential. South Florida needs to figure what they want to be but they could make a play.

If the Big 12 had to take two more, I would go Memphis and South Florida. Memphis has both basketball and football (plus a nice spot in SEC country) and South Florida brings the I-4 rivalry. Plus, an extra trip for Florida helps with recruiting.

But like you said there isn't much left right now to pick from. Unless you wanted to bring in SMU or Rice to honor the old SWC. SMU will need to win a heck of lot to get in (like TCU did).

[lawrenceRaider]

You gotta be the worst person in this thread

A raider fan and a beaker

ROFL

Sorry the truth hurts so much. But then you are used to pain being a MU fan.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

BYU, done, Boise State is next!





IMHO, cutural fit has nothing to do with it anymore, it's all about $$$



Very well could be true, but I also said, " I knew/know ND will not do it," . So stop trying to make yourself look better by thinking you just staged yourself, 1 up ! I already covered that statement. But enjoy your belly laugh that you somehow showed up a comment when I mentioned it was merely attempting to be aggresive!



Please don't give me the cultural BS when $$$ is driving the bus here. Colorado could jump back if they think they could get relevant on competing again, more money than the dormant PAC 12, additional schools in their area, BYU,Boise State, maybe Wyoming, Damn, who knows, maybe Co State too.
I already mentioned Memphis as basketball only, their football is almost on KU's level, not there, but almost. All KU has to do is start winning again, it will take care of itself, I know, tall order.
I'll give you a Coastal Carolina, but again, see the argument with USF,UCF, WV,

Why USF? Miami, another east coast school to go with UCF, WV ? Goes without saying that it's the TV markets driving this thing!

Not on your opinion of laughter " Oh shit, now that's funny "!

Cultural fit, while not the paramount attribute, still places a large factor in decisions. Athletic conferences are country clubs. Presidents prefer to hang out with similar minded members. Colorado fits the west coast culture. That is why they left even when the rest of the supposedly departing Big 12 members stayed. BYU should have been in years ago. It took the departure of Texas/Oklahoma for the rest of the BIG 12 presidents to put away their disdain for Mormonism and say, "We need BYU." Decisions are fueled by culture and money until desperation comes.

You said it is all about money. Fine, then why would Colorado leave a financially stable PAC 12 for a BIG 12 whose new deal is still speculation? They wouldn't. They left and they aren't coming back. Reminder, they left a Big 12 that had Texas and Oklahoma anchoring it. But somehow they are going to want to return to a BIG 12 without its two premium brands?

Colorado doesn't care about BYU, Boise, Wyoming, or their supposed rival CSU. They certainly aren't dumping the academic cache of the PAC 12 to play old time MWC/WAC members. They don't even want to really keep the CU-CSU rivalry going.

Again, P5 conferences don't take basketball only members. That is bush league in their eyes. And Memphis football currently is way above Kansas' level.

"All KU has to do is start winning again." Well, not to be cruel (I am an Army fan so I know how long the drought of defeat can last) but that is easier said than done for sure and Kansas has a long barren history. The last conference title was in the 1960s, I believe. Yes, the Orange Bowl was awesome but Kansas that year didn't have to play Texas/Oklahoma. That is where the return of divisions might assist Kansas.

USF is located in Tampa not Miami. FIU is in Miami.

TV markets play a role but so does fan support. All four additions have strong fan bases. USF is struggling in that department right now. I do think if USF kept their Big East momentum they would be in the Big 12 but UCF seized the chance.

[ROYC75]

Cultural fit, while not the paramount attribute, still places a large factor in decisions. Athletic conferences are country clubs. Presidents prefer to hang out with similar minded members. Colorado fits the west coast culture. That is why they left even when the rest of the supposedly departing Big 12 members stayed. BYU should have been in years ago. It took the departure of Texas/Oklahoma for the rest of the BIG 12 presidents to put away their disdain for Mormonism and say, "We need BYU." Decisions are fueled by culture and money until desperation comes.

You said it is all about money. Fine, then why would Colorado leave a financially stable PAC 12 for a BIG 12 whose new deal is still speculation? They wouldn't. They left and they aren't coming back. Reminder, they left a Big 12 that had Texas and Oklahoma anchoring it. But somehow they are going to want to return to a BIG 12 without its two premium brands?

Colorado doesn't care about BYU, Boise, Wyoming, or their supposed rival CSU. They certainly aren't dumping the academic cache of the PAC 12 to play old time MWC/WAC members. They don't even want to really keep the CU-CSU rivalry going.

Again, P5 conferences don't take basketball only members. That is bush league in their eyes. And Memphis football currently is way above Kansas' level.

"All KU has to do is start winning again." Well, not to be cruel (I am an Army fan so I know how long the drought of defeat can last) but that is easier said than done for sure and Kansas has a long barren history. The last conference title was in the 1960s, I believe. Yes, the Orange Bowl was awesome but Kansas that year didn't have to play Texas/Oklahoma. That is where the return of divisions might assist Kansas.

USF is located in Tampa not Miami. FIU is in Miami.

TV markets play a role but so does fan support. All four additions have strong fan bases. USF is struggling in that department right now. I do think if USF kept their Big East momentum they would be in the Big 12 but UCF seized the chance.

KU will become a .500 football team soon, in the next 5 yrs, it will become a solid draw to basically any conference it chooses then. However, KU is not joining the Big 10, ACC, any other con. as long as they are part of the B12, 16, whatever they call themselves. They have it all too well in basketball and that is enough for them, however KU does & will always be in a Power % conf. for that reason if their football becomes a trace of the Mangino days.

Now for putting words into what I said, I never said USF was in Miami, but it does have a large TV market in Miami. This is all about driven TV markets. UCF does has a lot of Central Florida covered, even a large part of Miami too. To put it bluntly, U of Miami has a lot of the TV market in Miami with alumni, as well as Florida. Likewise, so too does UCF and USF in the Miami area. I was referring USF to help corner a larger Miami market. Same for Colorado and CSU with Denver, TV markets is the ticket, viewership is what is going to attract TV contracts for the league. If the B12 wants to attract a bigger TV contract, it has to be able to sell viewership's to the Networks.

Plus any larger metro area is going to also give you 1 up on recruiting, rather it's football or basketball!

For some reason you want to add to what I keep hitting on here. You are a smart guy, sol let's make this simple ....

1. Exposure
a. Viewership for networks
b. Recruiting
c. All of the Above.

2. Conference Stability
a. Exposure
b. High level of viewership
c. Recruiting
d. All of the Above

As I said, you are a smart guy, you can see the correct answers!

It boils down to doing a great job of salesmanship, if you are not taking steps now in the B12 to attain stability and keep this shit from happening again, you are setting yourself up for failure! Reason I say the B12 needs to go ahead and become a the B16, branch out now, get what you can before the others move to it. I do not see the Pac12 or B10 moving to a 16 team conference anytime soon. If the B12 don't take steps now to secure themselves, they will be left behind.

[FloridaMan88]

It’s a small/one week sample size… but the new/future Big 12 has more teams ranked in the top 10 (Iowa State and Cincinnati) than the ACC and Pac 12 and the same # of top 10 teams as the B1G.

[Prison Bitch]

Looks more like the AAC than a “power 5” conference now


Another moron who brings no evidence or facts as he belches out a baseless opinion. The TV deals are the same as two existing P5 leagues.


“The top 3 brands leapt at the chance to leave the AAC prolly because the B3.0 looks just like the AAC. Or some shit, durr. Durr”

[RustShack]

Looks more like the AAC than a “power 5” conference now

Thank you for letting us know how clueless you are, and to know your thoughts don’t matter.

[FloridaMan88]

South Florida brings the I-4 rivalry.

A “rivalry” that no one cares about.

[TribalElder]

KU will become a .500 football team soon

Yep, they did that tonight when they lost to coastal carolina

[DaKCMan AP]

Power 5 is dead. Power 2 plus some littles

[Prison Bitch]

Power 5 is dead. Power 2 plus some littles

There’s no such thing as a “power league” - only power programs, at least as it relates to CFB. There’s Bammy, then a drop off to mild contenders like Ohio St and Clemson. Then another drop to OU, Georgia, etc

Then there’s everybody else. 90% of your “power league” will never even win its *own* league.

[lcarus]

Really? WITF would any serious conference want WSU? KU is pathetic at football, but at least we have football.

Tulsa has zero pull due to proximity of OSU.

UCF and BYU both bring many more eyes for TV than Memphis.

Do you not understand TV economics?

I didn't say it would happen or that it should happen. It'd just be fun to have more regional rivalries.

I hate losing Oklahoma and Texas. I hated losing Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and to a lesser degree...Texas A&M. I enjoyed having all of the big schools around here in the conference. Oh well. Now we're gonna have 40 teams in the stupid ass SEC and the Big 12 will continue cobbling together whoever the frick is a big enough TV draw to keep the conference alive. Yay.

[lawrenceRaider]

There’s no such thing as a “power league” - only power programs, at least as it relates to CFB. There’s Bammy, then a drop off to mild contenders like Ohio St and Clemson. Then another drop to OU, Georgia, etc

Then there’s everybody else. 90% of your “power league” will never even win its *own* league.

Basically same as it ever was. Teams at the top will rotate here and there when coaches retire.

[KChiefs1]

Power 5 is dead. Power 2 plus some littles


Pretty much.

Big 12 should add Tulsa to replace Oklahoma & SMU to replace Texas. I think adding Creighton to replace Nebraska & Missouri State to replace Mizzou.

I’m sure the Big 12 will survive much like the MVC has survived.

The hilarious part of that is…KU would still have the worst football program in the conference.

[Bowser]

Creighton?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/639b0e4073036511d350b3b419dc27e7/tumblr_oz65bbR6zy1rfd7lko1_400.gifv

[KChiefs1]

Creighton?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/639b0e4073036511d350b3b419dc27e7/tumblr_oz65bbR6zy1rfd7lko1_400.gifv


I’m sure they could field a team right?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/bmQLgRV0aXiOk/giphy.gif

[lawrenceRaider]

Creighton?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/639b0e4073036511d350b3b419dc27e7/tumblr_oz65bbR6zy1rfd7lko1_400.gifv

You have to excuse some of these people. They ate paint chips as kids, and apparently missed the B12 expansion teams.

[KChiefs1]

You have to excuse some of these people. They ate paint chips as kids, and apparently missed the B12 expansion teams.


Creighton’s football program…still better than Kansas.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/KCRbhxk6bbry5mG5jF/giphy.gif

[Kiimo]

I'm still shocked that rival teams think it's some kind of own when they say our football program is bad.

lol no shit guys. feeling good about the direction though

[lawrenceRaider]

I'm still shocked that rival teams think it's some kind of own when they say our football program is bad.

lol no shit guys. feeling good about the direction though

We aren't dealing with creative people here.

[Prison Bitch]

We saw the past present AND future last nite. Texas losing to Arkansas and Mizzouche losing to a basketball school.

[LiveSteam]

Least you're not Buffalo
Who lost bad yesterday to a Midwestern girls Volleyball school

Nobody spikes the ball like the lady Husker volleyball team

[Prison Bitch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas Calling the Big-12 tonight after getting blown out by a bottom end SEC team <a href="https://t.co/XEMGc36pCb">pic.twitter.com/XEMGc36pCb</a></p>&mdash; CFB Overtime (@CFB_Overtime) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFB_Overtime/status/1436880155130179589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Al Czervik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas Calling the Big-12 tonight after getting blown out by a bottom end SEC team <a href="https://t.co/XEMGc36pCb">pic.twitter.com/XEMGc36pCb</a></p>&mdash; CFB Overtime (@CFB_Overtime) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFB_Overtime/status/1436880155130179589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Perfect

Horns Down and anally abused by SEC bottom feeder

[Mr. Plow]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas Calling the Big-12 tonight after getting blown out by a bottom end SEC team <a href="https://t.co/XEMGc36pCb">pic.twitter.com/XEMGc36pCb</a></p>&mdash; CFB Overtime (@CFB_Overtime) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFB_Overtime/status/1436880155130179589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:)

[displacedinMN]

How do the lower sports suffer for this. It seems like it is all about football.

[RustShack]

I was reading a CBS article about AAC expansion. Just was they were looking like 5 Mountain West schools and UAB, want to stay as the premier G5 conference and promoting the ability to make the 12 team playoff or get promoted to the Big12. But the one paragraph that really stuck out, they said the Big12 is also monitoring the PAC12 media contract negotiations, and some schools may be interested in moving to the Big12.

I’d assume those schools would be 2-4 of Arizona, Arizona ST, Utah, and Colorado.

But another thing to think about is if the B1G ends up raiding the PAC and obviously some of those schools would want to join regardless.

Obviously I, and KU fans hope Iowa State and Kansas end up in the B1G instead, which might be the strongest rumor. But CBS reporting today the possibility of PAC schools to the Big12 caught my eye.

[tredadda]

I was reading a CBS article about AAC expansion. Just was they were looking like 5 Mountain West schools and UAB, want to stay as the premier G5 conference and promoting the ability to make the 12 team playoff or get promoted to the Big12. But the one paragraph that really stuck out, they said the Big12 is also monitoring the PAC12 media contract negotiations, and some schools may be interested in moving to the Big12.

I’d assume those schools would be 2-4 of Arizona, Arizona ST, Utah, and Colorado.

But another thing to think about is if the B1G ends up raiding the PAC and obviously some of those schools would want to join regardless.

Obviously I, and KU fans hope Iowa State and Kansas end up in the B1G instead, which might be the strongest rumor. But CBS reporting today the possibility of PAC schools to the Big12 caught my eye.

Colorado isn't coming back. Also the PAC won't get raided.

[Eleazar]

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

[kcclone]

I think at one time, ASU/Arizona/Utah/Colorado might have been watching the B12, but now that OU and Texas are gone, I don’t see that being an option.

[Mizzou_8541]

I’m dead at all the Mizzou hate in this thread. You say we are irrelevant, but all you do is bring us up. Ku clearly has an obsession. Mizzou has climbed the mountaintop. We are on top of the world. Ku is left wishing they are where we are.

[Bearcat]

I’m dead at all the Mizzou hate in this thread. You say we are irrelevant, but all you do is bring us up. Ku clearly has an obsession. Mizzou has climbed the mountaintop. We are on top of the world. Ku is left wishing they are where we are.

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[BryanBusby]

0% chance teams are leaving the alliance to play in a circling the bowl conference.

[lawrenceRaider]

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Delusional MU fans are the best.

[RustShack]

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

Like I said, I was surprised to read that in the article.

[lawrenceRaider]

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

Like I said, I was surprised to read that in the article.

Can only happen if the B1G raids the PAC.

[KC_Lee]

I’m dead at all the Mizzou hate in this thread. You say we are irrelevant, but all you do is bring us up. Ku clearly has an obsession. Mizzou has climbed the mountaintop. We are on top of the world. Ku is left wishing they are where we are.

A well paid jobber is still just a jobber.

[RustShack]

Can only happen if the B1G raids the PAC.

I think it’s in the B1Gs court on which conference they give the death blow. Do they add Iowa State and Kansas and the PAC invites whenever and probably the ACC as well to all get to 16. Or does the B1G invite PAC schools the the Big12 get some leftovers. If the B1G raids the PAC they are likely going past 16 to 18 or 20 which opens the door for other conferences to follow. It just depends on how strong their verbal alliance is lol.

Or does everyone decide to stay at P5.

[ROYC75]

I think it’s in the B1Gs court on which conference they give the death blow. Do they add Iowa State and Kansas and the PAC invites whenever and probably the ACC as well to all get to 16. Or does the B1G invite PAC schools the the Big12 get some leftovers. If the B1G raids the PAC they are likely going past 16 to 18 or 20 which opens the door for other conferences to follow. It just depends on how strong their verbal alliance is lol.

Or does everyone decide to stay at P5.

This is what I see now since the B12 didn't go to B16 when the chance for doing so now presented itself. I expect things will all calm down now for another 10-15 years.

[BWillie]

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

Honestly if the PAC and the Big 12 combined and dropped the dead weight they would all make more money.

Why lug around Oregon State, Cal, Washington State, K-State?

The juggernauts of a Pac 12 and Big 12 would make more money per school and it would expand their media footprint.

Other than Texas and Oklahoma, Kansas makes the most revenue in the Big 12 followed by West Virginia. That is just revenue. They are HUGELY profitable due to CBB as well.

[RustShack]

This is what I see now since the B12 didn't go to B16 when the chance for doing so now presented itself. I expect things will all calm down now for another 10-15 years.

They’ve said they haven’t ruled out adding more teams closer to media negotiations. I think there will definitely be more movement in the next 2-3 years. That’s about the timeline other conferences would look to expand as well.

It sounds like the Big12 is going to be a 14 team conference for a few years and they may add two more to replace OuuT when they officially leave.

Or they leave early, but they can’t say they that now. And it helps the Big12’s case against them to “plan” on them being here.

[FloridaMan88]

Big 12 raiding the PAC… ROFL

This.

Apparently the basis for this idea is that the future Big 12’s media deal after 2025 will be bigger than the Pac 12’s new media deal?

There is no way that is happening.

Just the presence of UCLA and USC alone in the Pac 12 makes it a more valuable conference in terms of media rights.

[sedated]

It sounds like the Big12 is going to be a 14 team conference for a few years and they may add two more to replace OuuT when they officially leave.

IMHO it would be a mistake to wait. If there are valuable schools out there to be had, better to get them now and not risk them going to a more secure conference.

[Discuss Thrower]

IMHO it would be a mistake to wait. If there are valuable schools out there to be had, better to get them now and not risk them going to a more secure conference.

Um wat?


There's no value to be found anywhere that won't lie with Division I FBS's alignment once UT and OU shift to the SEC.

That game of musical chairs ended 10 years ago -if not even earlier-. OU and UT would ultimately be fine in any of the ACC/BIG/B12/PAC/SEC. Adding both probably only adds surplus value to BIG or SEC.

[RustShack]

IMHO it would be a mistake to wait. If there are valuable schools out there to be had, better to get them now and not risk them going to a more secure conference.

I don’t think the Big12 has to worry about that lol. If anyone else moves it will be to poach the Big12 or PAC.

[Prison Bitch]

The thought of Arizona and Arizona State leaving the Cali schools to go slumming with Gay State, Okie Light and the Rust Shacks is too hilarious to even consider.

[BWillie]

The thought of Arizona and Arizona State leaving the Cali schools to go slumming with Gay State, Okie Light and the Rust Shacks is too hilarious to even consider.

Other than the cultural aspect, the amount of money the schools bring to the table is quite similar. Pac 12 and Big 12 are unfortunately very similar now in terms of athletic dept power post OU/TEXAS

[Prison Bitch]

Two P5 schools have no NFL 1st rounders since 2000


1. Indiana
2. Rust Shacks, baby Rust Shacks!

[RustShack]

Two P5 schools have no NFL 1st rounders since 2000


1. Indiana
2. Rust Shacks, baby Rust Shacks!

It’s been a lot longer than 2000 for us lol. Last time we were this good was like the 70’s. Still hasn’t stopped us from having one of the best fan bases. I’ve seen K-State and Mizzou pretty butthurt about us jumping them for bowl games because they wanted the high fan turnout instead. It’s only getting bigger now that we are good, and have a coach who’s turned down tons of jobs already.

[Pitt Gorilla]

It’s been a lot longer than 2000 for us lol. Last time we were this good was like the 70’s. Still hasn’t stopped us from having one of the best fan bases. I’ve seen K-State and Mizzou pretty butthurt about us jumping them for bowl games because they wanted the high fan turnout instead. It’s only getting bigger now that we are good, and have a coach who’s turned down tons of jobs already.

Again, you aren't good, although you might be "big 12" good.

[RustShack]

Again, you aren't good, although you might be "big 12" good.

Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.

Why are you talking about last year? You lost to Iowa and should have lost to a rebuilding Northern Iowa. What, specifically, is good about that?

[RustShack]

Why are you talking about last year? You lost to Iowa and should have lost to a rebuilding Northern Iowa. What, specifically, is good about that?

Because we have the same team as last year? And we start off slow every year? And September is irrelevant in December? Keep up kid.

Iowa State lost to Iowa while playing bad and mostly because of turnovers. Turnovers are easier to clean up than not being able to move the ball at all. Iowa is going to struggle in games their defense doesn’t score in.

[RustShack]

But by your definition Ohio State isn’t good right? Played a tight game with Minnesota(lol) then lost to Oregon?

[RustShack]

I really hope Iowa State and Kansas get invited to the B1G in the next few years. I can’t wait to play Iowa at the end of the season instead.

[Mizzou_8541]

Delusional MU fans are the best.

Lol! Enjoy your numerous level 5 violations. Thank god for KState being the flagship institution in the state of Kansas. True leadership and a real AD there.

[KChiefs1]

https://twitter.com/daniellibit/status/1440007155541762048?s=21

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2021/sec-revenue-nearing-ncaas-1234640251/amp


If money is power in college sports, then the Southeastern Conference was making its case for intercollegiate supremacy long before its recent poaching of Texas and Oklahoma.

The Birmingham, Ala.-based nonprofit has, over the last 15 years, steadily closed the annual revenue gap with the Indianapolis-headquartered NCAA. In the early 2000s, the SEC earned roughly a quarter of what the NCAA brought in, but in recent years the conference has pocketed almost two-thirds of NCAA revenue totals.

For the tax year between July 2018 and August 2019, the SEC generated $720 million, compared with the $1.12 billion in revenue claimed by the NCAA. The trend line has long suggested that the SEC would eventually overtake the NCAA (and the Big Ten) as the biggest-earning college sports organization in America.

Even before it gained its two Big 12 defectors, the SEC’s new TV deal with ESPN would alone have likely launched it into the NCAA’s 10-figure club by 2024. All this, despite the SEC having far less overhead and fewer liabilities. Last tax year, for example, the SEC employed a workforce less than 10% as large as the NCAA’s; the SEC has also avoided having to pay the mountainous legal and settlement fees that have eaten away at the association’s nest egg.

On the other side of the ledger, the SEC has found a far more diversified stream of revenue. Whereas the NCAA floats its enterprise on the broadcast rights to March Madness, the SEC has, in addition to its TV and radio deals, made steady gains in postseason event revenue and other opportunities. For the 2019 tax year, the SEC earned $210 million in postseason events, compared to just $89 million in 2010.

It’s perhaps no wonder why NCAA president Mark Emmert has recently endorsed the idea of college sports decentralizing and the association ceding much of its governing authority to conferences. He’s been earning about the same in annual compensation as SEC commissioner Greg Sankey—whose job creates far fewer headaches.



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[RustShack]

It would be cool if college football was like any other sport at any level where it had a real governing body and it wasn’t just up to the individual conferences. Like it should be the P5 under one banner. Similar to how the NFL gets paid out of media rights. Sure, you should make more for the more premium slots.

I just hope college football doesn’t collapse after it’s definitely peaked already.

[Prison Bitch]

Lol. If retards keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport

[lawrenceRaider]

Lol! Enjoy your numerous level 5 violations. Thank god for KState being the flagship institution in the state of Kansas. True leadership and a real AD there.

Proving my point. Thanks

[Eleazar]

It would be cool if college football was like any other sport at any level where it had a real governing body and it wasn’t just up to the individual conferences. Like it should be the P5 under one banner. Similar to how the NFL gets paid out of media rights. Sure, you should make more for the more premium slots.

I just hope college football doesn’t collapse after it’s definitely peaked already.

P4

[Bearcat]

P4

P2.5
Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State (.5)

[sedated]

Lol. If retards keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport

I've heard a bit of that theory, that it will become a regional sport and people outside the hot beds will stop caring. An interview with someone from the NE made it seem pretty clear that people up there already don't give a shit about college football.

[lawrenceRaider]

P2.5
Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State (.5)

Pretty much the truth.

[lawrenceRaider]

I've heard a bit of that theory, that it will become a regional sport and people outside the hot beds will stop caring. An interview with someone from the NE made it seem pretty clear that people up there already don't give a shit about college football.

College football is dull as hell these days. I used to watch it all day Saturdays. Whoever was on, I'd watch. I'd watch all the pregame shows as well.

I might watch a few minutes here and there now. but it just doesn't interest me any longer.

[Sassy Squatch]

Jesus Christ shit is bad at Rutgers.

https://rutgersaaup.org/wp-content/uploads/securepdfs/2021/09/How-They-Robbed-Academics-for-Rutgers-Athletics.pdf

[Eleazar]

College football is dull as hell these days. I used to watch it all day Saturdays. Whoever was on, I'd watch. I'd watch all the pregame shows as well.

I might watch a few minutes here and there now. but it just doesn't interest me any longer.

I agree with that. Competitive balance is an issue and the general interesting-ness of college FB across the country seems to be down.

[TribalElder]

Lol. If retards keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport

people watch KU play hoops in the Big whateverthe**** still

[Prison Bitch]

2 years ago Kansas football blew out B.C. on the road 48-24

[Bearcat]

people watch KU play hoops in the Big whateverthe**** still

The Big Only Conference to Reach the Final Four the Past Three Seasons.... and with three different teams!

[RustShack]

So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.

[sedated]

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12.

I had to stop reading here.

Even if (IF!) teams wanted to leave a stable conference for this cluster, there is no f-ing way Colorado is one of them. They couldn't wait to join the P12, I think the term thrown around was "better cultural fit" (west coast over midwest)

[GloucesterChief]

So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.

The California schools will not want to be split between two conferences and will want to play each other every year if in the same.

[RustShack]

I had to stop reading here.

Even if (IF!) teams wanted to leave a stable conference for this cluster, there is no f-ing way Colorado is one of them. They couldn't wait to join the P12, I think the term thrown around was "better cultural fit" (west coast over midwest)

That definitely stuck out to me as well, but hearing it from a few different people was interesting. But the PAC was probably the least stable conference up until Texas and OU decided to join the SEC.

[ROYC75]

Plus you had Boise State and San Diego State today saying they would not join AAC and stay with the Mountain West because they were waiting on a Big 12 or a PAC 12 possible bid.

[ROYC75]

So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.


I like these 4 pods!