****The Official Save Our Chiefs Movement Thread****

[ChiTown]

Carrington thinks that if you donate $50 to a banner....you have your priorities wrong.


**** him.http://imgsrv.610sports.com/image/DbGraphic/201203/2070570.jpg?1349118210

[Raiderhater]

Oh, and Carrington (you raving phucking douchebag) just because I donated $50, doesn't mean that $50 would have gone to some charity I somehow cheated. One has nothing to do with the other. That's like saying, because I decided to spend $50 extra at a Chiefs game buying some grub, that I could have spent it on Charity. What a fug tard


Yeah, he's being a complete douche about it.

[Reerun_KC]

Would be a huge blow to this organizations credibility amongst the fanbase to try and counter market this.

[Fritz88]

Forget about Cassel in this banner. Go after Pioli. He is the one who deserves this.

Once Pioli is fired Cassel will be gone. Trickle down effect.

Make it simple with something like: WE DESERVE BETTER! FIRE PIOLI!

I like this one better. It's all Pioli's.

[Bearcat]

Pfft... including PR's $100, the average donation is around $25/person. Oh noes... :rolleyes:

[FAX]

I like, "Say No To Processed Chiefs!"

FAX

[In58men]

I like this one better. It's all Pioli's.

Same here. Make it towards Pioli not Cassel.

[bevischief]

Have you opened up donations via other avenues such as ArrowheadPride, Arrowhead Addict, KCStar bulletin boards, and Athan's tripe site?

I just posted a fanpost on ArrowheadPride with a link for donations and to this thread.

[SPATCH]

Has anyone submitted this to reddit?

Posted to /r/NFL about 15 minutes ago... currently sitting at 1 upvote and 0 downvotes lol.

[bevischief]

So are we going banner or billboard

banner

[bevischief]

I wonder how much he values his reputation. Media coverage of his team's fan absolutely hating on the chiefs has to be valued pretty high.

I am hoping on this thought as well.

[Frazod]

Who is this Carrington person?

[Chief Roundup]

Reach out (via email) to shows like 'Around the Horn' or 'Pardon the Interruption' ... offer this topic up for debate. Create a very nice scenario with the simple question of "how can fans fight back to show ownership they care and they are tired"?

Gotta figure it's something that could be lively and kill a segment on one of those shows...

Man I think it would be cool to hear this type of debate on those shows as well as others.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

This is awesome. Look at it this way. The average donation of $25.00 per person is just taking money away from spending it on the team. One less hat...one less shirt and so on on.

[RedDread]

Ps... looks like the local Wichita affiliate of NBC wants to do an interview.

Called that shit.

[ChiTown]

http://imgsrv.610sports.com/image/DbGraphic/201203/2070570.jpg?1349118210Who is this Carrington person?

He's the Ed McMahon to Danny Parkins on The Danny Parkins Show on 610 Sports Radio

[Chief Roundup]

These 2 guys keep talking about Billionaires and how they are different.
Billionaire is still interested in not losing 10 million a year from thier business.

[Frazod]

http://imgsrv.610sports.com/image/DbGraphic/201203/2070570.jpg?1349118210

He's the Ed McMahon to Danny Parkins on The Danny Parkins Show on 610 Sports Radio

Ah. I guess he'd be happier if I gave my $20 to some lowlife crackhead. Fuck him.

[R8RFAN]

Oh, and Carrington (you raving phucking douchebag) just because I donated $50, doesn't mean that $50 would have gone to some charity I somehow cheated. One has nothing to do with the other. That's like saying, because I decided to spend $50 extra at a Chiefs game buying some grub, that I could have spent it on Charity. What a fug tard

Reported

[SomeRandomGirl]

This just showed up on my facebook feed:
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/chiefs_fans_to_protest_by_flying_banner_over_stadium/11860204?linksrc=home_rg_head_11860204

[R8RFAN]

Somebody just show up and take some high quality camera shots

[luv]

This just showed up on my facebook feed:
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/chiefs_fans_to_protest_by_flying_banner_over_stadium/11860204?linksrc=home_rg_head_11860204

They just got beat down at home by a bitter rival, are sitting in the AFC West cellar with a 1-3 record, and have many within the organization ready to turn the page on quarterback Matt Cassel.

It’s fair to conclude the Chiefs are in a bad place.

And with the Ravens coming to town in Week 5, smart money is on it going from bad to worse.

Despite handing Romeo Crennel the head coaching reigns, hoping he could change the culture tainted by Todd Haley, fundamental issues remain within the team, leading to blowout losses, a poor record and dwindling hope of a successful season.

It’s unfortunate considering the devout fanbase that still comes out in full force each week, even when there’s little to cheer for. However, the dismal situation has led to boiling point for those very fans, who’ve resorted to their own ‘Occupy’ movement in hopes of nudging upper management’s hand.

With the monetary commitment of fellow fans, one member of a Chiefs message board has organized a banner to fly over Arrowhead Stadium this Sunday, calling for, among other things, the firing of general manager Scott Pioli and benching of Cassel. As of early Tuesday morning, $1,055 have been raised for the cause. The tentative plan is for the banner to go airborne before kickoff, and perhaps take to the sky after the game, too.

They’re not stopping there, either. If enough money is raised, the same banner also could be flown at the next home contest, presumably to grab the attention of owner Clark Hunt.

Or so they wish.

I get that desperate times call for desperate measures, but we’ve seen this before and it never ends as hoped. Just six months ago, Dolphins fans lined the streets outside the team facilities, protesting for nearly the exact same reasons. The end result? Just a bunch of people given an excuse to shout and flaunt signs, while changing absolutely nothing.

Though this venture is more expensive, the outcome will ultimately turn out the same and, if anything, land a few folks on the local news.

But, hey, A+ for effort; at least they’re trying. Unlike the team, apparently.
.

[ghak99]

These 2 guys keep talking about Billionaires and how they are different.
Billionaire is still interested in not losing 10 million a year from thier business.

They can't comprehend the fact it's not about the dollars.

The Hunt's care about the reputation of Lamar's baby. They will not enjoy their loyal followers bringing, nation wide, negative attention to something that is so closely tied to their family name. If any pressure at all is brought upon Pioli, it's a success.

[Sofa King]

They can't comprehend the fact it's not about the dollars.

The Hunt's care about the reputation of Lamar's baby. They will not enjoy their loyal followers bringing, nation wide, negative attention to something that is so closely tied to their family name. If any pressure at all is brought upon Pioli, it's a success.

^ this

[ChiTown]

Reported

:LOL:

[luv]

I get that desperate times call for desperate measures, but we’ve seen this before and it never ends as hoped. Just six months ago, Dolphins fans lined the streets outside the team facilities, protesting for nearly the exact same reasons. The end result? Just a bunch of people given an excuse to shout and flaunt signs, while changing absolutely nothing.

Didn't they draft Tannehill?

[kcgizmo]

Money Sent. I could not think of a better way to spend a little money on the Chiefs

[bevischief]

Didn't they draft Tannehill?

Yes.

[Chief Roundup]

Don't know if anyone else is still listening, but Jason Cole just basicly said that because of Clark and them talking about long term stability that we will have Pioli and Crennel next season. He thinks we will end up with a top 10 pick and draft a QB.

[pr_capone]

Updated OP with current $ amount sitting in paypal.

[Frazod]

They can't comprehend the fact it's not about the dollars.

The Hunt's care about the reputation of Lamar's baby. They will not enjoy their loyal followers bringing, nation wide, negative attention to something that is so closely tied to their family name. If any pressure at all is brought upon Pioli, it's a success.

I don't know - they certainly don't seem to mind giving the trophy with daddy's name on it to some other team every year.

They live in Texas. I don't think they give two shits about the team as long as it turns a profit.

[Rexx]

Regardless of the medias opinion, it's a win just because its being heard and discussed. Bravo CP!

[frankotank]

so what is the banner going to say?
has that been decided for sure?

Chiefs - Pioli = Win

[pr_capone]

so what is the banner going to say?
has that been decided for sure?

Chiefs - Pioli = Win


WE DESERVE BETTER! FIRE PIOLI - BENCH CASSEL

[the Talking Can]

don't let them get it twisted

this is about telling pioli he is a cockbag, and telling Cassel he sucks yak anus, in front of the world...

and there is nothing either can do about it...we've gone on record

you'd be gunned down before you got within 5 feet of pioli in person....

[InChiefsHeaven]

don't let them get it twisted

this is about telling pioli he is a cockbag, and telling Cassel he sucks yak anus, in front of the world...

and there is nothing either can do about it...we've gone on record

you'd be gunned down before you got within 5 feet of pioli in person....

Anybody send something to the KC star about this, or call in to the radio stations down there about it? I'll actually be at this game, looking forward to seeing it!

[sedated]

Anybody send something to the KC star about this, or call in to the radio stations down there about it? I'll actually be at this game, looking forward to seeing it!

It was mentioned on Fescoe this morning, although he didn’t say “chiefsplanet”, just “fans are planning to fly a banner this week”.

[pr_capone]

don't let them get it twisted

this is about telling pioli he is a cockbag, and telling Cassel he sucks yak anus, in front of the world...

and there is nothing either can do about it...we've gone on record

you'd be gunned down before you got within 5 feet of pioli in person....

Exactly.

Do I think that Clark Hunt is gonna see or hear about the banner and say... "Oh shit... I better get right on this"? No. It is about the collective voice of fans telling management that we are tired of this. We are so aggrieved by the state of our team that we would rather pay a guy to fly a banner than buy concessions or gear to wear. This is not being done with a purpose to change minds at 1 Arrowhead drive. This is being done to rally the fan base.

We, the fans, made Arrowhead the loudest stadium in the NFL. It is time we use that voice again. Not because we hate the Chiefs or are fair weather fans but the opposite. We love this team and deserve to have a product on the field that is worthy of having us rock the stadium like we did in the 90's.

[TLO]

This is awesome... Just awesome.

[frankotank]

WE DESERVE BETTER! FIRE PIOLI - BENCH CASSEL

cool. cool.
I'd seen a lot of chatter about what it should say and wasn't sure what the final decision was. nice.
we've only got 5 more home games (not including Balt)! you're gonna mess around and have TOO much money! :LOL:

[The Franchise]

I've tweeted this to Adam Schefter, Jay Glazer and John Clayton.

[MIAdragon]

I've tweeted this to Adam Schefter, Jay Glazer and John Clayton.

nice.

[ghak99]

I don't know - they certainly don't seem to mind giving the trophy with daddy's name on it to some other team every year.

They live in Texas. I don't think they give two shits about the team as long as it turns a profit.

You make good points and I could be wrong, but I believe Clark put the hammer down on Pioli during the Haley mess. Pioli looked to be sweating bullets when Clark was looking over his shoulder in one of those press conferences. Perhaps it was about money, but to me it looked like Clark stepped in to ensure the Hunt name was protected. Unfortunately, KC fans are happy with teams just good enough to give them hope. As long as the fans feel the team is competitive and there isn't some heathen running around on the sideline, the Hunt name is viewed in a positive light.

Let's face it, Clark threw a serious chunk of change out there when he acquired Pioli, Cassel, Romeo, Weis, etc. He could have turned a profit without going after some of the biggest names on the market.

Either way, Arrowhead is dieing a slow painful death and opposing teams no longer fear the place. How sad is that.

[Bearcat]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...

Chiefs Coalition ‏@Chiefscoalition

I want to fly a banner saying Real #Chiefs fans support through thick and thin! Does not mean I'm happy but it's my team! Rest are bandwagon
Retweeted 24 times

It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

[DBOSHO]

@ChrisHansenNFL: Chiefs fans plan to protest by flying a banner over the stadium. Could get ugly for Pioli and company.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...



It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

Wut? That tweet is so dumb it should be called a twat.

[The Franchise]

Fuck the Coalition.

[DBOSHO]

I cant express how awesome this is.

Id like to send a personal 'thank you' to everyone paying for the banner.

[Fish]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...



It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

Holy shit, you're kidding right?

[frankotank]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...

Chiefs Coalition ‏@Chiefscoalition

I want to fly a banner saying Real #Chiefs fans support through thick and thin! Does not mean I'm happy but it's my team! Rest are bandwagon
Retweeted 24 times

It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

pretty amazing. you care enough about the team to do something, rather than just sit on your ass bitching, you spend cash money to get it accomplished....and this waste of skin calls you a bandwagon fan.

:banghead:

how does he remember to breath?

[teedubya]

I nicely told @ChiefsCoilition to get a clue.

"It's not lame to fly the banner @Chiefscoalition it's lame to let Pioli alienate the fans, former players & to keep putting Cassel out there"

[Direckshun]

So... this is happening?

[The Franchise]

I nicely told @ChiefsCoilition to get a clue.

"It's not lame to fly the banner @Chiefscoalition it's lame to let Pioli alienate the fans, former players & to keep putting Cassel out there"

Get a clue. Your choice.

[bevischief]

So... this is happening?

Yes. Working on the next home and maybe more.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

A guy I work with is a huge Ravens fan and is going to the game and he said he isn't sure what he's looking forward to the most... the ass-kicking his team is going to put on ours or seeing the hoopla surrounding all this. He also salutes those doing all this.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Christopher Hansen ‏@ChrisHansenNFL

Getting organized too. RT @SaveOurChiefs: @ChrisHansenNFL Chris, check out http://www.saveourchiefs.com --- The banner will be flying this Sunday!

[Bearcat]

pretty amazing. you care enough about the team to do something, rather than just sit on your ass bitching, you spend cash money to get it accomplished....and this waste of skin calls you a bandwagon fan.

:banghead:

how does he remember to breath?

Is that place run by 14 year olds? Yeah, if one day my favorite local restaurant decided it was a good idea to start mimicking In-a-tub, I'd feel obligated to voice my displeasure and I sure as hell wouldn't wait 2 decades before I stopped supporting them financially.

[alanm]

So... this is happening?Apparently so.

[Red Brooklyn]

I can't believe this is really happening. Congratulations Chiefs fans. This is fantastic. Thank you to everyone who is putting in their money and time to make this a reality.

I'll be at the game. My first trip to Arrowhead since the Bengals tried to kill Trent Green. The best part (besides the banner, I mean)? Tickets and parking passes were free. I get to be there and support this, and I don't have to give the organization a dime.

Go Chiefs! Go Chiefs fans!

[YourMult]

Please shoot and post a video of this all over the fucking internet. Awesome.

[chiefzilla1501]

You make good points and I could be wrong, but I believe Clark put the hammer down on Pioli during the Haley mess. Pioli looked to be sweating bullets when Clark was looking over his shoulder in one of those press conferences. Perhaps it was about money, but to me it looked like Clark stepped in to ensure the Hunt name was protected. Unfortunately, KC fans are happy with teams just good enough to give them hope. As long as the fans feel the team is competitive and there isn't some heathen running around on the sideline, the Hunt name is viewed in a positive light.

Let's face it, Clark threw a serious chunk of change out there when he acquired Pioli, Cassel, Romeo, Weis, etc. He could have turned a profit without going after some of the biggest names on the market.

Either way, Arrowhead is dieing a slow painful death and opposing teams no longer fear the place. How sad is that.

I would agree with you. I'll give Clark the benefit of the doubt. If Pioli gets an extension after this mess, unless he does some serious damage control, we can start to question him.

I still have this glimmer of hope that Clark knows this is a problem and that Pioli is skating on thin ice.

And I disagree that this won't work. The Chiefs have had some bad teams before, but their fans are the loyalest of loyal. For it to have sunk this low... it's not good. Pioli is too egotistical not to notice. And Hunt is just not used to Chiefs' fans reacting negatively.

[frankotank]

I nicely told @ChiefsCoilition to get a clue.

"It's not lame to fly the banner @Chiefscoalition it's lame to let Pioli alienate the fans, former players & to keep putting Cassel out there"

these are fans that care enough to DO SOMETHING.
ask 'em what they've done lately? other than piss and moan on a message board. how much money have they spent?

[FAX]

I nicely told @ChiefsCoilition to get a clue.

"It's not lame to fly the banner @Chiefscoalition it's lame to let Pioli alienate the fans, former players & to keep putting Cassel out there"

Exactly so, Mr. teedubya.

Someone should remind them that Will Shields was present during the latest debacle. Undoubtedly, he was embarrassed and saddened by the entire affair.

FAX

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

another re-tweet!

SaveOurChiefs
@SaveOurChiefs
@ChrisHansenNFL Yes sir. We're not being rude or a bunch of jerks about it either. We just care a lot about the team want whats best!

[gblowfish]

Man, it's so funny how fast this stuff goes viral. Well, guess we better make a good show outta this, eh? PR Capone: Expect a call from Mark Donovan. He's probably got the bald headed Chiefs CIA dudes tracking you down right now!

[BigMeatballDave]

JFC, Chiefscoalition are some clueless motherfuckers.

[gblowfish]

JFC, Chiefscoalition are some clueless motherfuckers.
Yep, they're like the fanatical Jim Jones Chiefs fans. They're busy re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

I like and admire genuinely optimistic people. But I despise blind optimism. Does that make sense?

[RedSea90]

Yes, please post it all over youtube! I wish i can be in Kansas City for this beautiful idea!

[The Franchise]

Tweeted this out to Jason LaCanfora and Kent Babb.

[Donger]

$20 says the fucking plane crashes (and lands on Cassel).

[the Talking Can]

you tell chiefscoalition and black retard we'll meet them in an alley and beat their asses with aids bats and tridents...

[Iowanian]

...and a can of stale corn in a tube sock from under a member's bed.

[WV]

Sent $20....

[BossChief]

And chiefscoalition wonders why their posters leave and slam the place in it's shithole once they do.

Bunch of clueless pussies (with the excemption of no more than 10 posters)

[KC native]

FUCK YEA guys. Props for making this happen.

[mcan]

Congrats on getting your guys' voices heard. I don't agree with the level of vitriol towards Clark/Pioli/etc... I agree Cassel isn't the answer and the team should start looking in another direction though. And I definitely think that the fans should find a way to show their displeasure without resorting to the types of behavior that make us look like a fair-weather fan base, or just makes us downright disrespectful or rude. Boycotts and the like only serve to make future coaches and players NOT want to come here. Filling the stadium and rooting for your team win or lose is PART of being a fan. The plane banner is a perfect way to sharpen both sides of this sword.

That said, I think most of our problems are and have been coaching... For nearly a decade now. Changing out the quarterback is like changing the color of your queen on a chessboard. If the coaches have poor schemes and strategies, they just aren't very good chess players. It's not a perfect analogy, because players have to be good enough to execute a scheme. Crappy players can ruin even the best coaches best laid plans. But our guys, and this includes Cassel, aren't "crappy." Some are really quite good. Others are merely adequate. But, we need to find better chess masterminds. All else will be window dressing and false hope. Manning didn't want to come in here and be a fancy chess piece for a guy playing checkers. I believe that why he didn't field our calls.

[Titty Meat]

LOL Carrington Harrison said we have our priorities wrong yet he just bragged about how he's going to the game this weekend. I think this guy has the Nick Wright syndrome.

[KCUnited]

LOL Carrington Harrison said we have our priorities wrong yet he just bragged about how he's going to the game this weekend. I think this guy has the Nick Wright syndrome.

The guy claims to be a diehard MU fan but not only attended a KU game in Lawrence, but wore KU gear to the game to "see what it felt like."

[Chief Pote]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...



It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

40 fucking years of thick and thin.....really?

[Skyy God]

Might want to tighten up the banner message.....

[frankotank]

$20 says the ****ing plane crashes (and lands on Cassel).

that will cost extra.
Capone....please check price....

[MIAdragon]

you tell chiefscoalition and black retard we'll meet them in an alley and beat their asses with aids bats and tridents...

LMAO

[Chiefs Pantalones]

So what is the banner going to say?

[BossChief]

The Chiefs right now are akin to a restaurant that serves rotten food and the place is filthy and that coalition poster would keep going because "he has been going there for 20 years"

Me, I'll drive by a bunch of times until I see the "under new management" sign up and then I'll stop in for lunch.

[ChiTown]

So what is the banner going to say?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jRXQ_sotRSc/UBGYYGKYRcI/AAAAAAAAB2E/-J5YuwtxD_c/s400/eat_mor_chikin.jpg

[pr_capone]

http://i.imgur.com/uW68p.jpg

[frankotank]

That said, I think most of our problems are and have been coaching... For nearly a decade now. Changing out the quarterback is like changing the color of your queen on a chessboard. If the coaches have poor schemes and strategies, they just aren't very good chess players. It's not a perfect analogy, because players have to be good enough to execute a scheme. Crappy players can ruin even the best coaches best laid plans. But our guys, and this includes Cassel, aren't "crappy." Some are really quite good. Others are merely adequate. But, we need to find better chess masterminds. All else will be window dressing and false hope. Manning didn't want to come in here and be a fancy chess piece for a guy playing checkers. I believe that why he didn't field our calls.

I understand what you're getting at....but I'm not buying in....sonofabitch....I'd like a true, real, viable QB. something to build a team around. PLEASE! PLEASE!

I posted below in another thread...

I found this...thought it was interesting....
A few quotes....

The Chiefs never drafted their own quarterback to develop until Brodie Croyle was chosen in the 2006 NFL Draft and claimed the starting position in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...nnon_and_Grbac

[Dayze]

that will cost extra.
Capone....please check price....

I think I have a coupon at home.

[Fritz88]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

[frankotank]

The Chiefs right now are akin to a restaurant that serves rotten food and the place is filthy and that coalition poster would keep going because "he has been going there for 20 years"

Me, I'll drive by a bunch of times until I see the "under new management" sign up and then I'll stop in for lunch.

your damned avatar should be banned. my stomach lurches every time I see it.

[luv]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

LMAO

[Dayze]

at least us folk at CP are putting our money where our collective mouths are. Unlike some people at 1 ARrowhead drive.

Right 53
Competition at QB
Process
......

[frankotank]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

then I'd guess the plane didn't crash on him. DAMMIT CAPONE! :D

[Dayze]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

what if it's proven that we didn't land on the moon, that 911 was an inside job, and the JFC assasination was orchestrated by the mob.

....on the same day. On Discorery Channel.

:D

[ChiTown]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

A blind squirrel and an acorn...........you know the story

[frankotank]

what if it's proven that we didn't land on the moon, that 911 was an inside job, and the JFC assasination was orchestrated by the mob.

....on the same day. On Discorery Channel.

:D

it's actually spelled Dis-Corey Channel and it doesn't provide this type of info.
24 hours of dissing the Coreys, but it was discontinued after Haims death.

http://www.okmagazine.com/sites/okmagazine.com/files/imagecache/node_page_image/article_images/corey-feldman-7-20-main.jpghttp://www.nndb.com/people/909/000022843/corey-haim-very-80s-sm.jpg

[Dayze]

lol. my typinng can clearly send the wrong message at times.

"Man...Dayze is weird. He watches the Dis-Corey channel. I didn't even know that existed . What a weird fuck"

[ghak99]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

If that's all it takes to get Cassel to perform, you claim motivation and start collecting funds for banners over every game in every city he plays in.

We'd have to keep an eye on anonymous donations, wouldn't wanting that snake Pioli slipping one in and taking credit for the success.

[InChiefsHeaven]

If I remember it, I'll bring one of those American Express signs:

Quarterback: 62 million dollars
General Manager: a lot of money
Upgrades to Arrowhead: 300 million
Watching the stadium empty by halftime...

[vailpass]

This place has it's moments.

Well done Capone and crew.

[ChiTown]

This place has it's moments.

Well done Capone and crew.

F Off, Donkey Breath!

[ghak99]

F Off, Donkey Breath!

ROFL

Classic!

This thread and posts like these are why I chose CP over the others.

[vailpass]

F Off, Donkey Breath!

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[Radar Chief]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

:LOL: Not even if the Ravens suited up their cheerleaders.

[BigMeatballDave]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device

What if there were actually a Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny?

[vailpass]

:LOL: Not even if the Ravens suited up their cheerleaders.

I picked KC to win this week in a friend pool. This is JUST the kind of game the Chiefs win. The kind where they have no reason or right to win aka last year's Packer game.

[the Talking Can]

What if Cassel shreds the Ravens D? And we win 37-0?
Posted via Mobile Device


just another day for chiefs fans...

[frankotank]

I picked KC to win this week in a friend pool. This is JUST the kind of game the Chiefs win. The kind where they have no reason or right to win aka last year's Packer game.

ab-so-fucking-LUTELY!
we have a survivor pool at work...damn thing is worth 7K this year!!!
NEVER trust the Chiefs to win when they should win.....
more importantly NEVER trust the Chiefs to lose when they should lose.
frigging psychos!

[Radar Chief]

I picked KC to win this week in a friend pool. This is JUST the kind of game the Chiefs win. The kind where they have no reason or right to win aka last year's Packer game.

Ravens D > GB D and we no longer have Orton to salvage the offense.

[Old Dog]

What if there were actually a Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny?

Can they replace Pioli, Crennel, and Cassel? Sign me up

[vailpass]

Ravens D > GB D and we no longer have Orton to salvage the offense.

Agreed completely. Cassel isn't Orton and Packer D=non-existent.

Still, over the last few years KC has a way of winning, and losing, games they shouldn't.

[vailpass]

Can they replace Pioli, Crennel, and Pioli? Sign me up

You hate him so bad you want him fired twice?
I like the cut of your jib sailor.

[Fritz88]

We'd have to keep an eye on anonymous donations, wouldn't wanting that snake Pioli slipping one in and taking credit for the success.


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[Old Dog]

You hate him so bad you want him fired twice?
I like the cut of your jib sailor.

fixeded

[GoShox]

I picked KC to win this week in a friend pool. This is JUST the kind of game the Chiefs win. The kind where they have no reason or right to win aka last year's Packer game.

I get what you're saying, but I think this game will be more like the Patriots or Jets games from last year where we had no right to win and got absolutely smashed.

[Dayze]

how does one go about photoshopping Pioli with his dumbass grin from his original introductory press conference, flying a Cessna?

[Garcia Bronco]

Everybody's got their cups but that ain't chipped in

[vailpass]

fixeded

:D

[Bearcat]

Agreed completely. Cassel isn't Orton and Packer D=non-existent.

Still, over the last few years KC has a way of winning, and losing, games they shouldn't.

The Packers game is the only one that comes to mind as far as winning games they shouldn't.... I think they've beaten 3 playoff teams in the past 3+ seasons, and Cassel didn't start two of those (he beat the 7-9 Seahawks).

There have been surprises, like the MNF game vs the Chargers, and the 2010 game vs the 49ers... but none of those teams ended up being anything more than mediocre (and the Saints this year, but they're a mess).

[Old Dog]

I still can't get over the line being only 4 1/2.....if a line looks too good to be true, it normally is. I have a feeling this one may be a lot closer than many here are suspecting.

[Chiefspants]

The Packers game is the only one that comes to mind as far as winning games they shouldn't.... I think they've beaten 3 playoff teams in the past 3+ seasons, and Cassel didn't start two of those (he beat the 7-9 Seahawks).

There have been surprises, like the MNF game vs the Chargers, and the 2010 game vs the 49ers... but none of those teams ended up being anything more than mediocre (and the Saints this year, but they're a mess).

Though they didn't make it to the playoffs, the steelers win of 2009 and last year's win over the bears were definitely out of left field.

[Munson]

Somebody needs to bring their digital SLR and zoom lens to the game and take some pics of this glorious banner flying over Arrowhead.

[CoMoChief]

Need more media outlets on this shit pronto tanto!!!!

[Bearcat]

Though they didn't make it to the playoffs, the steelers win of 2009 and last year's win over the bears were definitely out of left field.

Didn't think about the Steelers game... didn't Forte get hurt early in the game vs the Bears, and they were also starting some scrub at QB? Sure, that 30 yard hail mary was a huge surprise, but someone had to win...

[The Franchise]

Didn't think about the Steelers game... didn't Forte get hurt early in the game vs the Bears, and they were also starting some scrub at QB? Sure, that 30 yard hail mary was a huge surprise, but someone had to win...

No Forte and they had Caleb Hanie at QB.

[Bearcat]

No Forte and they had Caleb Hanie at QB.

I turned on that game about 5 minutes before the Chiefs' TD and then didn't watch the 2nd half... awesome game! :D

[SPATCH]

Here is a link to the discussion on Reddit in the NFL subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10tl1y/its_being_dubbed_arrowhead_spring_chiefs_fans_are/

It is mostly uninformed nonsense from fans of other teams, which is kinda to be expected.

[Frazod]

I turned on that game about 5 minutes before the Chiefs' TD and then didn't watch the 2nd half... awesome game! :D

I watched it in person. Holy shit, it was like watching a pair of qualdriplegics having a tickle fight. The only good thing was the widespread look of nausea on the faces of thousands of formerly-arrogant Bears fans as they realized they were going to lose to..... us.

[Chiefspants]

Didn't think about the Steelers game... didn't Forte get hurt early in the game vs the Bears, and they were also starting some scrub at QB? Sure, that 30 yard hail mary was a huge surprise, but someone had to win...

If Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, and Matt Cassel get hurt in some bizarre pre-game on field collision, watch out, we may have a game on Sunday.

[BigMeatballDave]

Here is a link to the discussion on Reddit in the NFL subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10tl1y/its_being_dubbed_arrowhead_spring_chiefs_fans_are/

It is mostly uninformed nonsense from fans of other teams, which is kinda to be expected.

I can't read any of that without feeling my blood beginning to boil.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I would agree with you. I'll give Clark the benefit of the doubt. If Pioli gets an extension after this mess, unless he does some serious damage control, we can start to question him.

I still have this glimmer of hope that Clark knows this is a problem and that Pioli is skating on thin ice.

And I disagree that this won't work. The Chiefs have had some bad teams before, but their fans are the loyalest of loyal. For it to have sunk this low... it's not good. Pioli is too egotistical not to notice. And Hunt is just not used to Chiefs' fans reacting negatively.

I think it's already working. All of a sudden Quinn is getting snaps with the 1's? Yeah. Not this. Just coincidence...

[luv]

Looks like I'm going to the game Sunday. I'll make sure to get pictures.

[Titty Meat]

Here is a link to the discussion on Reddit in the NFL subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10tl1y/its_being_dubbed_arrowhead_spring_chiefs_fans_are/

It is mostly uninformed nonsense from fans of other teams, which is kinda to be expected.

Lawlz @ the one dude who points out the Chiefs have lead in time of possession and first downs. Wonder if that dumbass has ever heard of garbage time?

[vailpass]

I think it's already working. All of a sudden Quinn is getting snaps with the 1's? Yeah. Not this. Just coincidence...

If this benches Cassel all your sig lines are belong to PR Capone.

[Reerun_KC]

I think it's already working. All of a sudden Quinn is getting snaps with the 1's? Yeah. Not this. Just coincidence...

I want Quinn to play the Ravens... I would love nothing more than watching his garbage ass get destroyed by their D...

Would make the game quite enjoyable. Please Cassel, fuck up so bad that you get pulled so we can watch Quinn get raped...

Fuck Quinn, a pure garbage shit QB.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I want Quinn to play the Ravens... I would love nothing more than watching his garbage ass get destroyed by their D...

Would make the game quite enjoyable. Please Cassel, fuck up so bad that you get pulled so we can watch Quinn get raped...

Fuck Quinn, a pure garbage shit QB.

I take it you're not a big Pioli fan for putting us in this position. Spew the vitriol. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

[Reerun_KC]

I take it you're not a big Pioli fan for putting us in this position. Spew the vitriol. Tell us how you REALLY feel.I feel better now.

[tooge]

I've sent an e mail to Florio at Profootball talk about this. I'm sure he will have his cronies check it out and if it looks like a story, he may post something. I know he did about the Tebow billboard last year.

[BigMeatballDave]

Lawlz @ the one dude who points out the Chiefs have lead in time of possession and first downs. Wonder if that dumbass has ever heard of garbage time?

LOL

[BigMeatballDave]

It'd be cool to see the CBS pregame pick up on this.

[DMAC]

"WE DESERVE BETTER: FIRE PIOLI" is the banner?

If so...heh heh...awesome.

[Chief Roundup]

I think it's already working. All of a sudden Quinn is getting snaps with the 1's? Yeah. Not this. Just coincidence...

Quinn might actually have an advantage in this game. He played against the Ravens twice a year while he was with the Browns. So he should know some of thier tendencies.

[oldman]

Since he hasn't played in forever, I doubt it. But he did put his helmelt on last game!!

[007]

Hmmm, has Riggle donated yet?

[Bearcat]

Quinn might actually have an advantage in this game. He played against the Ravens twice a year while he was with the Browns. So he should know some of thier tendencies.

Uh...


DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
Sun 9/27 @BAL L 3-34 6 8 34 75.0 4.25 12 0 1 1.8 42.7 2 9 4.5 7 0

Mon 11/16 vs BAL L 0-16 13 31 99 41.9 3.19 30 0 2 2.0 23.5 2 1 0.5 2 0

[gblowfish]

They're talking about us on the NY Jets site:
http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248728

Wonder how long before we're on every NFL fan board?

[Marcellus]

Quinn might actually have an advantage in this game. He played against the Ravens twice a year while he was with the Browns. So he should know some of thier tendencies.

That would imply RAC would know them very well and have a great plan in place as well.

Expecting that to happen?

[Raiderhater]

They're talking about us on the NY Jets site:
http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248728

Wonder how long before we're on every NFL fan board?


It would seem they think Lamar is still alive.

First off, great organization by the fans there. To the people saying "it wont do anything" does anyone except lamar hunt to come out and say, "I wasnt gonna make a change at GM or QB, but now that I saw the banner I will"? It just shows how upset the fans are which is good.


I was very surprised to see pioli's draft record...not a lot of hits there

[gblowfish]

You can't expect Jet fans to know Lamar Hunt is no longer with us. Hell, they're Jet fans. They're one of the few teams that have gone longer without a SB appearance than US!

Meanwhile, Ajax the Parrot Joins the Chiefs Coalition. All is Well! Remain Calm!!!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/X_mVnYidAhM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[NJChiefsFan]

You can't expect Jet fans to know Lamar Hunt is no longer with us. Hell, they're Jet fans. They're one of the few teams that have gone longer without a SB appearance than US!

Meanwhile, Ajax the Parrot Joins the Chiefs Coalition. All is Well! Remain Calm!!!



I was told at a Jets/Chiefs game in the Meadowlands that the Chiefs suck because they haven't won a SB since SB IV. I am not sure I have ever had a better, more easy, put-away comeback in my life.

[BigMeatballDave]

Hmmm, has Riggle donated yet?

That would be hilarious, considering he's on the Chiefs' payroll.

[007]

That would be hilarious, considering he's on the Chiefs' payroll.

exactly. anonymous of course.

[BigRedChief]

Dunno, but The Oatmeal dude got 1.3 million dollars to fund the Tesla Museum. (http://theoatmeal.com/blog/tesla_museum).. I'm sure if Chiefsplanet had to come up with $5-10k for a full on campaign... I'd bet the funds would come in.

After they see the crowdsourced social grassroots campaign launch on Sunday. The Clark and Pioli may finally learn that you can't alienate your fans, your former players and field shit talent on the field year after year and get away with it without hearing from Chiefs Nation.

Social media has matured since we tried to get rid of King Carl. Social media and the fans can take these guys down. We can make it so uncomfortable to do business that the business landscape changes underneath their feet and they have no choice but to act.

[007]

I was told at a Jets/Chiefs game in the Meadowlands that the Chiefs suck because they haven't won a SB since SB IV. I am not sure I have ever had a better, more easy, put-away comeback in my life.

Well, nobody ever accused jets fans of being intelligent.

[SomeRandomGirl]

Ok, sent money via paypal.

[BigRedChief]

It's hit the yardbarker site. I'm on their email list already.
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/chiefs_fans_to_protest_by_flying_banner_over_stadium/11860204?linksrc=home_rg_head_11860204

Chiefs fans to protest by flying banner over stadium

<abbr class="published" title="2012-10-02 00:51,">October 2, 2012 - 12:51 am</abbr> · 3 comments (http://helmet2helmet.net/2012/10/02/chiefs-fans-to-protest-by-flying-banner-over-stadium/#comments)
by Zack Kelberman
in Kansas City Chiefs (http://helmet2helmet.net/category/afc-teams/kansas-city-chiefs/)

http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/chiefs-fans.jpg (http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/chiefs-fans.jpg)They just got beat down at home by a bitter rival, are sitting in the AFC West cellar with a 1-3 record, and have many within the organization ready to turn the page on (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--week-4-winners-losers--chiefs--matt-cassel-may-be-losing-grip-on-starting-job.html) quarterback Matt Cassel.


It’s fair to conclude the Chiefs are in a bad place.
And with the Ravens coming to town in Week 5, smart money is on it going from bad to worse.


Despite handing Romeo Crennel the head coaching reigns, hoping he could change the culture tainted (http://helmet2helmet.net/2012/01/15/haley-suspected-chiefs-of-bugging-facility-cellphone/) by Todd Haley, fundamental issues remain within the team, leading to blowout losses, a poor record and dwindling hope of a successful season.


It’s unfortunate considering the devout fanbase that still comes out in full force each week, even when there’s little to cheer for. However, the dismal situation has led to boiling point for those very fans, who’ve resorted to their own ‘Occupy’ movement in hopes of nudging upper management’s hand.


With the monetary commitment of fellow fans, one member of a Chiefs message board (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=264510&page=8) has organized a banner to fly over Arrowhead Stadium this Sunday, calling for, among other things, the firing of general manager Scott Pioli and benching of Cassel. As of early Tuesday morning, $1,055 have been raised for the cause. The tentative plan is for the banner to go airborne before kickoff, and perhaps take to the sky after the game, too.


They’re not stopping there, either. If enough money is raised, the same banner also could be flown at the next home contest, presumably to grab the attention of owner Clark Hunt.
Or so they wish.


I get that desperate times call for desperate measures, but we’ve seen this before and it never ends as hoped. Just six months ago, Dolphins fans lined the streets (http://helmet2helmet.net/2012/03/19/dolphins-fans-organizing-mass-protest-tuesday/) outside the team facilities, protesting for nearly the exact same reasons. The end result? Just a bunch of people given an excuse to shout and flaunt signs, while changing absolutely nothing.
Though this venture is more expensive, the outcome will ultimately turn out the same and, if anything, land a few folks on the local news.
But, hey, A+ for effort; at least they’re trying. Unlike the team, apparently.
(Photo: John Sleezer/McClatchy-Tribune)

[hometeam]

Q X 5

[SomeRandomGirl]

How you like my sig? Not amazing, but fun nonetheless.

[DaFace]

Here is a link to the discussion on Reddit in the NFL subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10tl1y/its_being_dubbed_arrowhead_spring_chiefs_fans_are/

It is mostly uninformed nonsense from fans of other teams, which is kinda to be expected.

Not a fan of the whole "Arrowhead Spring" thing. That makes it sound lame and cheesy.

[pr_capone]

How you like my sig? Not amazing, but fun nonetheless.

LOVE IT

[teedubya]

Not a fan of the whole "Arrowhead Spring" thing. That makes it sound lame and cheesy.

Yeah. I was wanting to help orchestrate the reddit post... and edit the copy a bit. I can get those things to pop, if done right.

Good intentions, though... it just needed a bit more strategic thinking behind it... and it would have been best to launch on Sunday after we had pics of it, IMO.

[BigRedChief]

Not a fan of the whole "Arrowhead Spring" thing. That makes it sound lame and cheesy.+1

[pr_capone]

updated OP with paypal amt

[BigRedChief]

Yeah. I was wanting to help orchestrate the reddit post... and edit the copy a bit. I can get those things to pop, if done right.

Good intentions, though... it just needed a bit more strategic thinking behind it... and it would have been best to launch on Sunday after we had pics of it, IMO.This!

We need to think strategically and act logically. Get the most bang for our buck.

[The Mayor]

Got my confirmation email. You should see my contribution in your account. Wish I could see it live!

[ClevelandBronco]

Dammit you guys. This had better have no effect.

[NJChiefsFan]

Well, nobody ever accused jets fans of being intelligent.

No, no they haven't. It's odd how different two fanbases(Giants/Jets) can be considering they are from the exact same region.

[FlaChief58]

Quinn might actually have an advantage in this game. He played against the Ravens twice a year while he was with the Browns. So he should know some of thier tendencies.

bitch please

[jackkked]

You Got Money
PP $ sent

[BigRedChief]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...



It's mind-boggling, really... LMAOWTF, the coalition is on board with the direction on the team?

[BigRedChief]

the "donate to" and paypal email address thing might be a little much. Should be a URL for a page that then suggests ways to get involved.no way do you put "donate" on a billboard. It will kill the incentive to drive traffic to a web site.

[Planetman]

If this idea fails, someone please rename the lounge, "The Sopwith Camel." :D

[MIAdragon]

WTF, the coalition is on board with the direction on the team?

There are some of those idiots here too :banghead:

[bevischief]

Where the hell is donation? Done this morning.

[Bwana]

Where the hell is donation? Done this morning.

Likewise

[rockymtnchief]

In for $25.

[bevischief]

There are a lot more people who donated that I don't on this list.

[AustinChief]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.

[bevischief]

In for $25.

You, me and Bwana at least.

[AustinChief]

There are a lot more people who donated that I don't on this list.

yeah, let's cut pr_capone some slack, it's a nightmare trying to sift through paypal donations and figure out what's from whom and the like. If you use the NOTE field and put your username in there, it would be easier but it still is a bitch to try to keep track of. Of all the things he is tackling right now, I'd put 'updating the donor list' smack dab at the bottom of the priority list.

[BigRedChief]

yeah, let's cut pr_capone some slack, it's a nightmare trying to sift through paypal donations and figure out what's from whom and the like. If you use the NOTE field and put your username in there, it would be easier but it still is a bitch to try to keep track of. Of all the things he is tackling right now, I'd put 'updating the donor list' smack dab at the bottom of the priority list.I'll offer to help PR. Been keeping the peoples money straight for the packages for the troops and nzoners bash.

[JoeyChuckles]

It's Arrowhead Spring.

I coin the phrase "Arrowhead Spring" last night in post 408, nobody says a damn thing about it, and then it shows up in a YardBarker story? I feel a bit violated.

Well I guess I contributed something to the whole thing, if not money yet.

[bevischief]

yeah, let's cut pr_capone some slack, it's a nightmare trying to sift through paypal donations and figure out what's from whom and the like. If you use the NOTE field and put your username in there, it would be easier but it still is a bitch to try to keep track of. Of all the things he is tackling right now, I'd put 'updating the donor list' smack dab at the bottom of the priority list.

I did just making sure that the outer towners get the credit for helping out, that this is not just a local effort but a national effort. That's all.

[Mizzou_8541]

And the first tweet I see when searching for 'chiefs banner'...



It's mind-boggling, really... LMAO

Wow, that'll show 'em!

[Frazod]

yeah, let's cut pr_capone some slack, it's a nightmare trying to sift through paypal donations and figure out what's from whom and the like. If you use the NOTE field and put your username in there, it would be easier but it still is a bitch to try to keep track of. Of all the things he is tackling right now, I'd put 'updating the donor list' smack dab at the bottom of the priority list.

Since he added me last night, I agree with this. :D

[SDChiefs]

Not sure if one of you did this, but there is a "bench Matt Cassel" page on FB. Like it. Sorry if repost but im not reading through 63 pages. There is also an article on there that mentions your little crusade. Kudos to you, youre my hero. PS, myself and both my roommates are going to try to send money. Joe is signing up on the planet as we speak.

[Bwana]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.

Bingo

[Planetman]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.
Before someone gets all gung ho on the billboard idea, you better check all the laws Missouri has in place for them. I can tell you from recent experience, it could be a colossal waste of time and effort if you don't familiarize yourself with the regs.

[Bwana]

You, me and Bwana at least.

He sent me a PM and he works 12 hour shifts. He will get us all on there. :thumb: I can't wait to see some shots of this thing in the air. :)

[Raiderhater]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.


I am going to disagree with you. If you stop flying the banner after getting some media attention than it looks like that is all we were after. You keep flying the banner until actual changes are made (providing funds keep coming in). Continuing the flights shows it is not just a moment of venting frustration but, that we are serious about this. Especially as a grass roots average fan donating to the cause week in and week out.

Pursue other avenues but, do not abandon the flights.

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

folks - honestly - i see the idea of a movie in here somewhere - if this groundswell continues and results in change? impossible? - not really!

In for $20US from canada!!!

[mlyonsd]

The next step should be we just buy the team from Clark.

[gblowfish]

The next step should be we just buy the team from Clark.

Think he'd take $600 for it?

[mlyonsd]

Think he'd take $600 for it?If we keep putting pressure on him maybe he'll crack Howard Hughs style.

[CosmicPal]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.

The way things are going there may be enough collective money to buy out the contracts of both Cassel and Pioli and send them both out of Arrowhead for good.

[Dayze]

Can someone take a pic of the banner please? Sure as hell won't be on tv anywhere

[ILChief]

I'm surprised no major news outlet has picked this up. This seems like something Florio at profootballtalk would run with

[Dayze]

If Tebow were flying the plane, they'd pick it up

[SomeRandomGirl]

I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1356284-the-kansas-city-chiefs-should-stick-with-matt-cassel?search_query=chiefs%20stick%20with%20cassel)


By
Christopher Hansen
(AFC West Lead Writer) on October 2, 2012


The Kansas City Chiefs are a disappointing 1-3 and a big reason for their bad start has been the poor play of quarterback Matt Cassel. Turnovers have been particularly costly for the Chiefs and Cassel has 10 of the team’s 15 turnovers through the first four games.

Fans are growing impatient with Cassel, general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Romeo Crennel. One group of fans will protest the game by flying a banner over the stadium on Sunday. While Pioli and Crennel might be the problem, benching Cassel just makes things worse.

Cassel is not a good starting quarterback, but he’s still the best quarterback available to the Chiefs.

Brady Quinn is basically Cassel three years from now. Ricky Stanzi? Please. There are a few quarterbacks available through free agency, but whether they are better than Cassel is questionable plus there is a steep learning curve at the position.

Benching Cassel only gives Pioli and Crennel a scapegoat for the team’s poor performance. Pioli is the one that brought Cassel in and stuck with him this long. Pioli even had opportunities to bring in a franchise quarterback through the draft and instead squandered those picks. He didn’t even sign a quarterback that was worth starting over Cassel this offseason.

Crennel’s specialty is defense and that side of the ball has also fallen apart. The team that played so hard for him when he was an interim coach looks lost and confused.

It’s clear that the Chiefs have issues and Cassel might not even be the biggest one. It’s not Cassel’s fault that the defense can’t keep the game within two scores or that offensive coordinator Brian Daboll hasn’t been able to run the ball enough.

Cassel has attempted 55 more passes in the first four games than he did 2010, the season he led the Chiefs to the playoffs. This is inexcusable given Kansas City's highly productive running game; the Chiefs are averaging 5.6 yards per carry this season, compared to 4.7 in 2010.

Cassel is throwing the ball more because the Chiefs have had to attempt to come back from down two touchdowns in every game this season, but Daboll needs to resist the urge to go away from the running game. The statistics are obviously skewed because Cassel has been piling up garbage-time stats in three of the four games. Outside of the interceptions, Cassel has actually been a more productive passer than he was in 2010.

If the defense could keep the game close, Daboll could lean on the running game and limit passing plays that would put Cassel in a position to make mistakes. If thing don’t change quickly, it’s going to be a very long season in Kansas City.

The margin of error is razor thin with a quarterback like Cassel, and that should be no surprise to anyone. The only people that seem surprised are Pioli and Crennel. Benching Cassel just makes the offense worse and allows those responsible for the poor play to blame someone other than themselves.

Fans should be supporting Cassel and letting his performance be the iceberg to Pioli’s Titanic. Besides, it’s not like the Chiefs have a better option.

[NJChiefsFan]

If Tebow were flying the plane, they'd pick it up

LMAOLMAOLMAO

[Dylan]

Contact: Associated Press - They should distribute the news on the national wire

http://www.ap.org/company/contact-us


Dave Skretta, AP Sports Writer - wire source of news and information on the KC Chiefs

https://twitter.com/APdaveskretta


That is great!!!

[Raiderhater]

I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1356284-the-kansas-city-chiefs-should-stick-with-matt-cassel?search_query=chiefs%20stick%20with%20cassel)


What the author fails to realize is that Cassel ALREADY HAS BEEN Pioli's downfall. That is the number one reason, in a list of many, that we have turned on him.

[AustinChief]

I am going to disagree with you. If you stop flying the banner after getting some media attention than it looks like that is all we were after. You keep flying the banner until actual changes are made (providing funds keep coming in). Continuing the flights shows it is not just a moment of venting frustration but, that we are serious about this. Especially as a grass roots average fan donating to the cause week in and week out.

Pursue other avenues but, do not abandon the flights.

Well we will have to disagree here (a rare event!).. I just think the banner's return on investment will be so low that the money would be better spent on other avenues. If you keep changing things up, the media keeps reporting on it. "OH look, those banner guys are now doing a billboard!" "oh look those crazy billboard guys are having a {insert crazy event} to protest"

I just don't see as much coverage for "oh look, the banner is back again for the 4th week..."

[WV]

I saw the Chris Hansen tweets earlier, but didn't see his latest article from bleacherreport.com posted yet. Sorry if repost.

The Kansas City Chiefs Should Stick With Matt Cassel (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1356284-the-kansas-city-chiefs-should-stick-with-matt-cassel?search_query=chiefs%20stick%20with%20cassel)

This is probably accurate, but we're tired of seeing Cassel trotted out there every Sunday to suck ass. The other two QB's are at least up to sucking equally, furthering the evidence that this organization knows exacly squat about picking a QB. Exactly how much run does Pioli get for being a part of the team that LUCKILY drafted Brady.

I'm not sure of the perfect wording for the banner, but whatever it takes to remove Cassel is the biggest key. Hell even Daniel Snyder is taking less heat now that they have RGIII, Geno Smith may just make Peeholy tolerable.

[WV]

Well we will have to disagree here (a rare event!).. I just think the banner's return on investment will be so low that the money would be better spent on other avenues. If you keep changing things up, the media keeps reporting on it. "OH look, those banner guys are now doing a billboard!" "oh look those crazy billboard guys are having a {insert crazy event} to protest"

I just don't see as much coverage for "oh look, the banner is back again for the 4th week..."

Agreed...it will lose it's burst after 1 week, maybe 2. It's initial shock value will not be increased. If it can get time before and ideally after the game it's accomplished most of what it ever will.

[teedubya]

IMO, we turn the 2nd banner/billboard into a call-to-action of some sort.

We ask the fans to blackout some game. Maybe the last game of the year... something.

If we are just bitching... fine. But, I'd like to see some mass action when the fans do or don't do something in a coordinated fashion.

[AustinChief]

IMO, we turn the 2nd banner/billboard into a call-to-action of some sort.

We ask the fans to blackout some game. Maybe the last game of the year... something.

If we are just bitching... fine. But, I'd like to see some mass action when the fans do or don't do something in a coordinated fashion.

Exactly! Each week of inaction should prompt further more extreme measures.

Escalation dominance works. (a little cold war theory for Raidehader to get behind! :D)

[Titty Meat]

OK, here are my thoughts on the next step...

If the national media picks up and gives the slightest mention of the banner.. then it is DONE.. no need to fly it again, it would have substantially diminished returns. If there is NO national coverage at all (seems highly unlikely) then I would say it may be worth flying it again.

If we do get national coverage (even a little) then I think you go with a billboard if it is economically feasible. If not, then I suggest looking into expanding the online reach and other grassroots efforts like a concessions boycott or whatnot.

How bout for the final hooray we buy a Chevy Tahoe driven by Kc Wolf to pick Pioli up during the pre-game intro of the last home game of the season and KC drives him back to Boston?

[Titty Meat]

Hey Teedub did you say Fox 4 was going to interview PR? I just got a tweet from a reporter saying that this is a great story and will be passed along to the producers.

[pr_capone]

updated OP with new total

[pr_capone]

Hey... KSN News channel 3 will be at my house tomorrow at 2pm. The guy sounded disappointed when he asked if I had a bunch of chiefs gear and I told him I only own 2 jerseys.

Dammit man... I spend all my gear money on traveling to go see this damn circus act.

[NJChiefsFan]

updated OP with new total

I will be able to throw some in for step 2. Do we know whether we are leaning towards billboard, banner, or both? Guess it depends on the results of this Sunday.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Hey Teedub did you say Fox 4 was going to interview PR? I just got a tweet from a reporter saying that this is a great story and will be passed along to the producers.

Yeah I thought something was going to run tonight so I'm recording the news. Let me know if it's not running tonight so I can just delete it.

[Raiderhater]

Well we will have to disagree here (a rare event!).. I just think the banner's return on investment will be so low that the money would be better spent on other avenues. If you keep changing things up, the media keeps reporting on it. "OH look, those banner guys are now doing a billboard!" "oh look those crazy billboard guys are having a {insert crazy event} to protest"

I just don't see as much coverage for "oh look, the banner is back again for the 4th week..."


We are expecting to different reactions from the people/media obviously. In my mind everyone expects this to be a one time show. When it keeps happening people are going say "these guys are serious". Combine that with other avenues of getting the message across and you potentially have more than just a little national interest.

Of course all of this comes down to people continuing to donate during a very tough economy.... so I do understand where you are coming from. It very well may not be feasible to pull off both at the same time. Just my worthless 2 cents on the matter. :)

[Hammock Parties]

Watch us beat the Ravens. LMAO

There is no way this team is beating the Ravens.

None.

They might grab their balls and compete for a half but the Ravens have an elite passing attack to go with their nasty ass D now.

This might be the best team we play all year. Ray Lewis won't let that team lose to a dogshit club like the Chiefs.

Also, B-More is #3 in YPC allowed. LOL

GO KASL IT'S ALL ON YOU BUD

[Raiderhater]

Exactly! Each week of inaction should prompt further more extreme measures.

Escalation dominance works. (a little cold war theory for Raidehader to get behind! :D)


Hah hah. I pretty much said it but for a quick clarification: I am all for escalation. I just think the continuation of the banner being flown is a form of said escalation given that no one expects to happen more than once.

[Bewbies]

If you're going to run a banner more than once it should change the message a little bit. The same one over and over would lose effectiveness BIG TIME.

[BigMeatballDave]

Heh...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1356097-matt-cassel-romeo-crennel-must-bench-embattled-chiefs-qb-immediately

[doomy3]

I have a 50 spot coming your way.

[Hammock Parties]

Please shoot and post a video of this all over the fucking internet. Awesome.

Yeah, I would be forever in debt of anyone who shot an HD video of this.

I would definitely put it in the video I'm planning to edit together, which will chronicle 4 years of fail.

[Titty Meat]

Hey... KSN News channel 3 will be at my house tomorrow at 2pm. The guy sounded disappointed when he asked if I had a bunch of chiefs gear and I told him I only own 2 jerseys.

Dammit man... I spend all my gear money on traveling to go see this damn circus act.

Make sure your house is clean

[ghak99]

I feel a second banner flight has substantial value and would show we're serious. One hit wonders are too quickly forgotten. The majority of the press will happen in the days following the game giving the fans enough knowledge to be looking for it, and talking about it, prior to flying it the second time around. Ideally this would maximize exposure. If they happen to bench Cassel at the half and we cut it off to "We deserve better - Fire Pioli" the next week, it will make a pretty bold statement.

I would not see a point in a third flight but, as AustinChief mentioned, at that point it needs to change to another avenue of exposure to give the media the opportunity to mention the ChiefsPlanet goons have called an Omaha and are now running a billboard straight up Pioli's ass.

[pr_capone]

Make sure your house is clean

It is a good thing that I keep my meth lab in the trunk of my Camaro that is sitting on bricks back behind my double wide.

[Raiderhater]

If you're going to run a banner more than once it should change the message a little bit. The same one over and over would lose effectiveness BIG TIME.

Possibly. Depends on wether or not the first one has any effect, and to what extent. If none, I might suggest changing "We Deserve Better" to "We Pay For Better" and then leave the rest the same.

[Raiderhater]

I feel a second banner flight has substantial value and would show we're serious. One hit wonders are too quickly forgotten. The majority of the press will happen in the days following the game giving the fans enough knowledge to be looking for it, and talking about it, prior to flying it the second time around. Ideally this would maximize exposure. If they happen to bench Cassel at the half and we cut it off to "We deserve better - Fire Pioli" the next week, it will make a pretty bold statement.

I would not see a point in a third flight but, as AustinChief mentioned, at that point it needs to change to another avenue of exposure to give the media the opportunity to mention the ChiefsPlanet goons have called an Omaha and are now running a billboard straight up Pioli's ass.


I have no idea who this cat is but, I like the way he thinks. :D

[Simply Red]

I hope Cassel 'plays mad' just like LJ - only catches a Ray Lewis clothesline.

[bowener]

There is no way this team is beating the Ravens.

None.

They might grab their balls and compete for a half but the Ravens have an elite passing attack to go with their nasty ass D now.

This might be the best team we play all year. Ray Lewis won't let that team lose to a dogshit club like the Chiefs.

Also, B-More is #3 in YPC allowed. LOL

GO KASL IT'S ALL ON YOU BUD

I have both Bolden and T. Smith on my fantasy team. Hopefully they score 50+ for me a 2nd week in a row. If any of you have Pitta, he will probably have a career day against Berry... if he plays like last week.

[Hammock Parties]

A full, incredibly thorough explanation of the case against Cassel (complete w/ statistics) can be found in The Declaration of Independence, MO. The People v Matthew Gus Brennan Cassel

LOL.

Who fucking posted this to Reddit?

I love you guys. GIVE ME A GREAT BIG HUG AND KISS!

[Fish]

Office workers! Who else wants to volunteer?

Grab a stack of (preferably) red or yellow Post-It notes from the cabinet.

Write, or use a customizable stamp or print, on each Post-It, the mission statement and/or saveourchiefs website(If the website owners would like the address included of course). Keep the stack intact for easy transport.

Post said notes at various locations at or around Arrowhead. Being very careful not to violate any obvious laws or Chiefs rules or regulations. Which should probably be checked beforehand just in case.

Considerate enough not to amass trash. Visible enough to convey the message to a large audience in a creative way.

:arrow:

[Coach]

You could always do something like print out hard evidence propaganda leaflets and leave them on their wipers. Psychological warfare.

[FAX]

A second/follow-up banner flight is a good idea. So far as the message is concerned, you want to keep it consistent, but freshen it up a tad.

At that point, I am in total agreement with those who advocate escalation. Star ads, billboards, candy wrapper protests, brown bag day at Arrowhead ... all good ideas.

¡Viva la Revolución!

FAX

[Raiderhater]

Office workers! Who else wants to volunteer?

Grab a stack of (preferably) red or yellow Post-It notes from the cabinet.

Write, or use a customizable stamp or print, on each Post-It, the mission statement and/or saveourchiefs website(If the website owners would like the address included of course). Keep the stack intact for easy transport.

Post said notes at various locations at or around Arrowhead. Being very careful not to violate any obvious laws or Chiefs rules or regulations. Which should probably be checked beforehand just in case.

Considerate enough not to amass trash. Visible enough to convey the message to a large audience in a creative way.

:arrow:


Just tag everyone's windshield with them. Arrowhead violations no longer a factor.

[ghak99]

Hey... KSN News channel 3 will be at my house tomorrow at 2pm. The guy sounded disappointed when he asked if I had a bunch of chiefs gear and I told him I only own 2 jerseys.

Dammit man... I spend all my gear money on traveling to go see this damn circus act.

If you expect me to continue picturing you as Chipper when reading your posts, I'm going to need you to at least dress in Atlanta Braves gear.

[Fish]

Just tag everyone's windshield with them. Arrowhead violations no longer a factor.

No, I really don't think we should be anything close to agressive or annoying with it. Post at random intriguing locations. But don't violate anybody with them.

[Raiderhater]

No, I really don't think we should be anything close to agressive or annoying with it. Post at random intriguing locations. But don't violate anybody with them.

Posting them inside Arrowhead is not aggressive?

[bowener]

Office workers! Who else wants to volunteer?

Grab a stack of (preferably) red or yellow Post-It notes from the cabinet.

Write, or use a customizable stamp or print, on each Post-It, the mission statement and/or saveourchiefs website(If the website owners would like the address included of course). Keep the stack intact for easy transport.

Post said notes at various locations at or around Arrowhead. Being very careful not to violate any obvious laws or Chiefs rules or regulations. Which should probably be checked beforehand just in case.

Considerate enough not to amass trash. Visible enough to convey the message to a large audience in a creative way.

:arrow:

You should go buy a few hundred sticker sheets or whatever they are called (the one that people use to preprint their addresses on to stick on envelopes), type out the website, then stick them all over arrowhead. Just saves you a lot of time.

edit:

Capone, when you get ready for the 2nd banner, can you post your ideas as a poll and let us vote on the best idea?

[Fish]

Posting them inside Arrowhead is not aggressive?

I never said to post them inside Arrowhead.

[teedubya]

Hey Teedub did you say Fox 4 was going to interview PR? I just got a tweet from a reporter saying that this is a great story and will be passed along to the producers.

I'm not sure the timing, actually. They had a 15 minute call with me last night... I gave them PR's number... and they called him. From there, I'm not sure.

[Hammock Parties]

Alright, so Capone is interviewing with the local news and has asked me to compile a few failstats for him...I already have a few things in mind: Pioli era vs playoff teams, blowouts, draft failures, etc...any more ideas?

[Raiderhater]

I never said to post them inside Arrowhead.


Technically no, you did not. But "at Arrowhead" is kind of left up to interpretation. Whatever, my mistake. Still on the property, still aggressive.

[Dylan]

Traditionally, the best possible way of communicating with national media outlets such as the Associated Press is through the airline company.

Most news releases are the media’s contact information. Has this been discussed?

This is the perfect "human interest" story.

Good Luck!

[Chief Roundup]

Uh...


DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
Sun 9/27 @BAL L 3-34 6 8 34 75.0 4.25 12 0 1 1.8 42.7 2 9 4.5 7 0

Mon 11/16 vs BAL L 0-16 13 31 99 41.9 3.19 30 0 2 2.0 23.5 2 1 0.5 2 0

I didn't say Quinn was good just that he might have an advantage over Cassel because of experience.

That would imply RAC would know them very well and have a great plan in place as well.

Expecting that to happen?

No not really. Just saying they should.

[Chief Roundup]

Alright, so Capone is interviewing with the local news and has asked me to compile a few failstats for him...I already have a few things in mind: Pioli era vs playoff teams, blowouts, draft failures, etc...any more ideas?

Just start picking the worst from your Declaration. It is all very daming to Cassel's performance.

[pr_capone]

Ok... I have updated the OP with PAID markers on everyone I could find a name on. There are a few donations that I still don't know where they came from so I will update when I hear back from them.

Also, checking my email.... Sam Mellinger wants to have a chat with me.

I never dreamed I would become a media darling over this. LOL

[pr_capone]

Capone, when you get ready for the 2nd banner, can you post your ideas as a poll and let us vote on the best idea?

It is a toss up. If the guy has to create a banner, the price goes up because he has to make a whole new banner. Do we save a bit of dough or do we create a new message?

I'm willing to hear out ideas.

[TRR]

It is a toss up. If the guy has to create a banner, the price goes up because he has to make a whole new banner. Do we save a bit of dough or do we create a new message?

I'm willing to hear out ideas.

Rep coming your way of the positive kind. Please post pictures of this if you/someone can grab some at the game. Hope this becomes a big story, and creates some positive shock waves.

[DaFace]

It is a toss up. If the guy has to create a banner, the price goes up because he has to make a whole new banner. Do we save a bit of dough or do we create a new message?

I'm willing to hear out ideas.

I'd say just play it by ear. You never know what will happen Sunday that might change your thinking entirely.

[EPodolak]

Can't wait to see this banner flying up on Youtube next week.

(I''ll pitch in on the unmanned drone if this plan requires further escalation.)

[hometeam]

I'm certain there will be pics of this. I would think that some of the local media would send an intern down with a camera for a blurb on the sports news as well. Any video of upcoming interviews or of the banner should make way into this thread~

[Hammock Parties]

I never dreamed I would become a media darling over this. LOL

You are my darling. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/cloud9.gif