****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

[penguinz]

The CEH passing plays at 1:55 and 10:24 are excellent. I would like to see more of this.


https://youtu.be/4g2R-kn_-0c

Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.

[saphojunkie]

Everybody plays well in space.

Fuck you I present Demarcus Robinson as exhibit A.

[dirk digler]

It seems the last few years our screen game to the RB has gone to shit is that because teams don't fear our run game so it is not very effective?

[ModSocks]

Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.

Eh.

Too far, too far.

[saphojunkie]

Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.

wut

[Dunerdr]

As DJ pointed out though, McKinnon could do that and gain alot more yards. He could probably house a couple as well.

I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.

[R Clark]

I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.

I would have like to see him get some touches, I think he could be damn productive in this offense

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.

Please read your own post before pressing ENTER

[mililo4cpa]

In watching the game again, I thought CEH had a pretty decent 2nd half, and I think some of those runs did bring the safeties up several steps.

Overall….probably just OK, and not what you want from a 1st round pick, but it’s opening day, so willing to get deeper into the season before getting too critical.

[dirk digler]

I've been a big Clyde defender, but i have always liked McKinnons game. I thought that at least a few times last week.

Yeah I thought he would get some touches especially in the passing game out of the backfield. I don't remember him playing much but could be wrong.

[Dunerdr]

Yeah I thought he would get some touches especially in the passing game out of the backfield. I don't remember him playing much but could be wrong.

I remember seeing him once for sure when he motioned out wide. Theyre probably trying to establish Clyde and get his confidence and continuity in the offense. But man some of that first half was brutal. He did look a little better in the second.

[O.city]

Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.

[ModSocks]

Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.

It's more about the fear that the good defenses could double them both and force Mahomes to throw to himself, since no one else can win 1v1 consistently.

And honestly, the only team that i could see actually pulling that off is the Patriots.

[Dunerdr]

Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.

I dont think its a problem, i think most bitches are that CEH is not optimizing his opportunities.

[KChiefs1]

CEH is skating on thin ice.

staylor is now his biggest supporter.
He’s doomed.


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[Chief Pagan]

Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.

It would be nice to have a third option already operating smoothly before Hill or Kelce happened to miss some time.

And the smoother and quicker the offense works, it probably means fewer hits on Mahomes.

[-King-]

Can someone explain to me the problem with throwing the ball to HIll and Kelce as much as they do?

I mean, obviously, it works.

I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.

The obvious issue, though, is that Pat isn't going to simply take a sack if Hill or Kelce is open and nobody else is. The tangential issue is that Hill and Kelce are always open, due to how good they are and scheme.

[O.city]

I mean, players break down with use. You want them to be able to catch their breath or be able to run some plays at 75-80% without the offense having trouble. Right now they basically have to be in every play and run basically every play full out because there's no one that can reliably help them get breaks. Also if any of them have to miss time, we need a player who can step in and have Pat be able to count on them. It's hard to do that if they have no chemistry with Pat.

Ok, just so we're on the same page though, if one of the first ballot HOF'ers get hurt, our offense will get worse.

They've got Mahomes and Andy. They can figure it out if one of them go down.

But I don't understand why we want to throw it elsewhere when those two always seem to be open. It's been that way for 3 years now. Are defenses gonna figure this out?

It's almost like players of that caliber, with a coach of Andy's caliber manipulating the defense and a QB liek Mahomes throwing them the ball are gonna just get open and it doesn't matter what anyone does.

[O.city]

It's more about the fear that the good defenses could double them both and force Mahomes to throw to himself, since no one else can win 1v1 consistently.

And honestly, the only team that i could see actually pulling that off is the Patriots.

Maybe.

But we've seen them go against the best defenses in the league and do what they do.

I don't really think it's something ot worry about.

[Gary Cooper]

It's more about the fear that the good defenses could double them both and force Mahomes to throw to himself, since no one else can win 1v1 consistently.

And honestly, the only team that i could see actually pulling that off is the Patriots.

If KC can run the ball, teams won't easily double Hill and Kelce. Doubling both works if the Chiefs can't run and the OL can't block four pass rushers on passing plays.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Ok, just so we're on the same page though, if one of the first ballot HOF'ers get hurt, our offense will get worse.

They've got Mahomes and Andy. They can figure it out if one of them go down.

But I don't understand why we want to throw it elsewhere when those two always seem to be open. It's been that way for 3 years now. Are defenses gonna figure this out?

It's almost like players of that caliber, with a coach of Andy's caliber manipulating the defense and a QB liek Mahomes throwing them the ball are gonna just get open and it doesn't matter what anyone does.

Its never a bad thing to have other threats to put ultimate pressure on the defense. Thats what it was like when Sammy was healthy.

[Chiefspants]

Its never a bad thing to have other threats to put ultimate pressure on the defense. Thats what it was like when Sammy was healthy.

Damien, too, in the playoffs.

[-King-]

Ok, just so we're on the same page though, if one of the first ballot HOF'ers get hurt, our offense will get worse.

They've got Mahomes and Andy. They can figure it out if one of them go down.

But I don't understand why we want to throw it elsewhere when those two always seem to be open. It's been that way for 3 years now. Are defenses gonna figure this out?

It's almost like players of that caliber, with a coach of Andy's caliber manipulating the defense and a QB liek Mahomes throwing them the ball are gonna just get open and it doesn't matter what anyone does.

Not really. As injured as he was, we still had Sammy Watkins the majority of games the past 3 years. How do you replace those 40-50 quality catches/plays?

[Bump]

obviously with the power of hindsight Jonathon Taylor or Chase Claypool would have been much better picks. Oh well, can't always win in the draft.

[Deberg_1990]

obviously with the power of hindsight Jonathon Taylor or Chase Claypool would have been much better picks. Oh well, can't always win in the draft.

Tee Higgins, D’Andre Swift maybe?

I’ll let it play out until at least the end of this year…..

[Chief Pagan]

obviously with the power of hindsight Jonathon Taylor or Chase Claypool would have been much better picks. Oh well, can't always win in the draft.

That's pretty much where I am at.

CEH probably won't live up to his draft spot, although we can still hope.

Nobody bats 100%.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Tee Higgins, D’Andre Swift maybe?

I’ll let it play out until at least the end of this year…..

Absolutely. I think CEH is still a little banged up and playing behind a brand new line. If he's not there by the end of the season, folks will have reason to be disappointed.

[Bump]

Tee Higgins, D’Andre Swift maybe?

I’ll let it play out until at least the end of this year…..

ya I'm not ready to write him off yet, once the o-line builds their chemistry maybe he can still pop off.

[BryanBusby]

I know he looked bad against the Browns, but talk about a week 1 overreaction.

[Kiimo]

obviously with the power of hindsight Jonathon Taylor or Chase Claypool would have been much better picks. Oh well, can't always win in the draft.


Careful I got roasted for saying this two short weeks ago

[TEX]

obviously with the power of hindsight Jonathon Taylor or Chase Claypool would have been much better picks. Oh well, can't always win in the draft.

Taylor was my pick. So you just PISSED me off all over again. DAMMIT! :cuss:

[smithandrew051]

Damien, too, in the playoffs.

How much money did we even save by cutting Damien? I’m thinking he was pretty cheap.

He’s clearly better than Darrell. That move never made sense to me.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I know he looked bad against the Browns, but talk about a week 1 overreaction.

Agreed. If he's healthy, CEH is going to tear stuff up. Hell, even Pat is learning to deal with a 100% new line.

[Demonpenz]

you need 3 yards he will get you 3 you need 5 yards he will get you 3

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I know he looked bad against the Browns, but talk about a week 1 overreaction.

Exactly, He had over 1100 scrimmage yards in 13 games last year. He'll go way past that this year.

[penguinz]

you need 3 yards he will get you 3 you need 5 yards he will get you 3

He has a hole that the avg back will get you 12 yards and CEH will get you three yards.

[ptlyon]

I know he looked bad against the Browns, but talk about a week 1 overreaction.

This, totally this. Jesus fucking tap dancing Christ. It's one week for God's sake.

[Lzen]

I had the NFL Network rebroadcast of the game, and Clyde had several good plays.

He is going to grade out a lot better with his coaches than he apparently grades out with some folks here.

Yeah, I agree. While he did make some errors, they were few and far between. I thought he did decent for what was given. And he should only get better.

[kepp]

How much money did we even save by cutting Damien? I’m thinking he was pretty cheap.

He’s clearly better than Darrell. That move never made sense to me.

I was scratching my head at that as well. Every once in a while Darrell rips off a nice play, but Damien was $$ at the right times :shrug:

[Lzen]

Agreed. He does play well in space. And Andy seemed reluctant to screen which is where I think CEH will do some damage. Maybe he's waiting for the OL to gel. I'm optimistic but maybe these games will be lessons for him to see the field better.

I thought they ran one screen against Cleveland and it got blown up. Or am I not remembering correctly?

[Lzen]

His blocking on the Mahomes TD run was awful. Total miss. Missed open holes as well.

I like him but he needs some work but doesn't get handoffs much.

When he got to the line, Fortson had the block on that defender. Now, it appeared to be a block and release but either way, that didn't appear to be CEH's assignment. He was looking for a LBer or DB to block. By the time he realized the defender Fortson was blocking was getting loose, it was too late.

[Chiefspants]

I was scratching my head at that as well. Every once in a while Darrell rips off a nice play, but Damien was $$ at the right times :shrug:

Trust is a big thing with Andy. They were very vocal that they didn't feel Damien took his rehab seriously in 2019 and could have returned much earlier than he did. He, in my opinion, was our offenses' X-factor in the postseason (even over Watkins) simply because defenses simply had no resources for him by trying to blanket Reek and Kelce and Damien truly made it count (did in 2018, too). His blocking out of the backfield was also clutch in January.

It wouldn't surprise me if after 2020, they wanted guys they could fully trust would suit up each Sunday. It's clear they value his skillset, though - as McKinnon basically has his exact skillset (injury history, too).

[BleedingRed]

I think Clyde will bounce back, but man what I would give for a Jamaal Charles right now

[Lzen]

I was scratching my head at that as well. Every once in a while Darrell rips off a nice play, but Damien was $$ at the right times :shrug:

RB approaching 30, oft injured during the season.....hmmmmmmmm.....wonder why.

[ptlyon]

I think Clyde will bounce back, but man what I would give for a Jamaal Charles right now

Better wish for the line he had too then

[Red Dawg]

I think Clyde will bounce back, but man what I would give for a Jamaal Charles right now

No shit. JC was the effing man.

[-King-]

Better wish for the line he had too then

Wut?

[ptlyon]

Wut?

NM - wrong RB.

Either way, Charles is dead to me after that fumble in the closing seconds of that Denver game. That would've been 12 straight.

[Great Expectations]

If McKinnon had the same touches as CEH last week he gets 30 more yards.

[Chris Meck]

Better wish for the line he had too then

wha?

No man.

JC was one of the very few RB's I ever saw who could make something out of nothing and that's a good thing, because he usually had nothing to work with.
Those lines were terrible other than Hudson.

[ChiTown]

I'm good with Clyde. He certainly has some intangibles that play well in this O. He needs to play better than he did last week, and I think he'll absolutely get there.

However, I have never been really comfortable with drafting RB's in the 1st Rd...or with your first pick. Given who we have throwing the ball, selfishly, I'm in the "let's get more WR Toys for Pat" mode. Tee Higgins at #32 in the 2020 Draft sure would have looked SOLID in Red & Gold.....

[saphojunkie]

This is pathetic overreaction

[Chris Meck]

I have a strong feeling that Clyde is going to make a lot of these posters look foolish by season's end.

[Dunerdr]

I have a strong feeling that Clyde is going to make a lot of these posters look foolish by season's end.

No doubt in my mind that he will.

[Otter]

I'm not taking game 1 too seriously but I think swing passes going to help him out. Especially in Reid's offense.

Patience grasshoppers.

[Deberg_1990]

I have a strong feeling that Clyde is going to make a lot of these posters look foolish by season's end.

I don’t know about foolish.

He’s better than he was against the Browns. But I don’t think he’s ever going to ‘special’

He’s a decent back.

[KChiefs1]

Exactly, He had over 1100 scrimmage yards in 13 games last year. He'll go way past that this year.




3 yards at a time.


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[smithandrew051]

wha?

No man.

JC was one of the very few RB's I ever saw who could make something out of nothing and that's a good thing, because he usually had nothing to work with.
Those lines were terrible other than Hudson.

Plus, NOBODY respected our downfield passing game, because it didn’t exist.

Teams loaded the box all the time against us. It’s amazing how efficient Jamaal was, even in the short passing game. Every team knew to watch 25, but it didn’t matter.

Best RB in Chiefs history. He would’ve gone over 2K with Priest’s line. He’d average like 7 yards a carry with Mahomes/Kelce/Hill.

[KChiefs1]

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[penguinz]

I have a strong feeling that Clyde is going to make a lot of these posters look foolish by season's end.
Exactly, All the posters that think he is going to be well above avg.

[louie aguiar]

I don’t know about foolish.

He’s better than he was against the Browns. But I don’t think he’s ever going to ‘special’

He’s a decent back.

This is where I'm at. I think his ceiling is an average-ish starting running back in the NFL. Which is fine if he was a 4th or 5th round pick.

We've been spoiled by running backs in KC. We went from Priest to LJ to Jamaal to Kareem.

[louie aguiar]

Welp

[The Franchise]

Waste of a 1st round pick.

[louie aguiar]

I can’t think of a single thing he does particularly well. Undrafted tyson Williams outperformed him tonight.

[-King-]

He's a BAD running back. The worst we've had in more than 2 decades. And he's the one we invested the most in

[stumppy]

I've had a gut full of this little motherfucker

[SupDock]

He was in between the tackles and a tickle dislodged that ball. It’s not like he was even hit hard.

[Mecca]

Fuck him he lost a game mixed with not being explosive and being slow, great fucking pick.

[stumppy]

They have to see it, he ain't worth a shit. FUCK

[Sassy Squatch]

Sure picked the best time to do that.

[notorious]

I don't even think he's JAG.

[Iconic]

Literally **** this first round reach of a pick with an anti-freeze doused cactus that has the next strain of COVID on it

Darwin was a 6th rounder and arguably just as serviceable bitch

[Red Dawg]

Why the hell did we draft an RB in round one?

[Mecca]

I don't even think he's JAG.

There's just no natural talent, no burst, no gear. How is this a 1?

[kc rush]

Wasted pick

[carcosa]

Cut his ass

[Bump]

this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

[SupDock]

The ball was hardly even touched. How the fuck do you fumble there. The only thing you need to do is hold onto the fucking ball.

[TEX]

I can’t think of a single thing he does particularly well. Undrafted tyson Williams outperformed him tonight.

He fumbled at the worst time quite well. Glad I called him a BUST before the game. He proved it.

[kcpasco]

Fuck him

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

[TEX]

The ball was hardly even touched. How the **** do you fumble there. The only thing you need to do is hold onto the ****ing ball.
Yep. He's good at just slamming into the line and falling down, he should have just done that.

[Bump]

just don't be like "oh we spent a 1st round pick on him, gonna ride that train no matter what"

cut your losses, the dude is too small and too slow and doesn't break tackles and fumbles in game winning drives.

Trying to make it happen for him cost us the game, handing it off to him every 1st down killed drives.

[DrRyan]

Can we start a Gruden-esque count down until cut clock? Literally no chance he is on the roster unless he is a high pick.

[TEX]

Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

Like I've been saying since we drafted him, too small and too slow for the nfl.

[-King-]

this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

McKinnon has 0 carries in 2 games. What the fuck?!?! Someone make that make sense to me

[Iconic]

Literal trash. How the hell did Veach miss so badly on this one?

I like Veach but yeah... RBs have no place being picked in the first round

[Redbled]

No idea why McKinnon isn't getting touches. I'd like to see Gore get a shot. CEH offers nothing and then offers this.......

[KCUnited]

Seriously thought quicksand was some made up phenomenon from my childhood until seeing CEH tote the rock tonight.

[Mecca]

The other teams QB has better RB instincts.

[KCUnited]

Trade back out of every first round please.

[DTVietnam]

horrid ending but this game is on the D...

[chiefzilla1501]

I try not to overreact with players.

But my God he shat the bed. First by not doing jackshit when the ravens were daring us to run. Then not putting two damn hands on the ball.

I don't care where he was picked in the draft. Give gore a shot until CEH gets his head out of his ass and can actually see a running lane for a change.

[TEX]

this guy was a bad pick. Just bench him, cut your losses.

Is Gore still on the practice squad? Bring him up. Give McKinnon a chance for goodness sakes.

Exactly the case. Don't double down on that bad pick, by trying to prove he's something other than a bad pick. Too small and too slow and no vision
Great college back, but even then he was on one of the best college teams in history. He's a liability in the NFL.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

If Bell goes on IR I'd call up Gore.

[kcpasco]

Done with this turd. He’s just ok at times and sucks the majority of the time.

[TwistedChief]

I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

[Mecca]

This is why you don't take RBs that lack explosion with high picks.

He looks no better than UDFAs.

[Papi]

Should be 3rd string on the depth chart after last week. I miss Damien Williams.

[Mecca]

I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

They won't even play him in pass downs because they don't trust him to pick up blitzers.

[notorious]

3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

Fuck this guy.

[Oh Snap]

Just logged on to say FUCK Clyde and fuck the horse he rode in on. You can't fumble the ball on the game winning drive. That is 100% on him. Hopefully Reid runs his legs off for costing us the game when it mattered.

The defense is a clusterfuck...fuck them too. But this game is in the bag if that piece of shit from LSU keeps both hands on the ball. Cut his ass.

[notorious]

Darrell Williams is the better option.

Someone disagreed with me in the game thread. I wonder what he thinks now.

[Chiefspants]

This is why you don't take RBs that lack explosion with high picks.

He looks no better than UDFAs.

He looks worse

[mr. tegu]

All of his playing time now was earned in college. He has earned nothing at this level.

[-King-]

The other teams QB has better RB instincts.

The other teams QB is the best RB in the league tbf.

[notorious]

If the Chiefs cut him tomorrow, does a team pick him up?

He's shown very little.

[Mecca]

A 1st round RB in his second year and he literally looks like one of the most untalented players in the league.

[-King-]

3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

Fuck this guy.

The O-line was perfect all around today. Great at run blocking last week. And he rewards them with that. Pitiful.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't get it. He was supposed to be this big threat out of the backfield in our passing game. He's been absolutely none of that. The guy gets some looks in the flat but isn't being schemed to do anything special. And then he has completely lacked vision on so many of his runs and essentially just lost us a game.

I'm perplexed how a team with a passing offense as good as ours can't have a RB that feasts when teams are clearly gearing up to stop the pass.

You need JAG-minus player running the ball for that to make sense, no?

Yeah it's perplexing two ways. Perplexing that hrs just not a good runner so far. Also perplexing that the best in the game at screens doesn't use him in the passing game.

[dlphg9]

In before Staylor screams at everyone.

But yeah he isn't good. Pisses me off that Darwin never got a fucking shot. Pisses me off that we drafted him with a first and then you fucking idiots down voted my post into oblivion over it. So fuck you all too.

[notorious]

The O-line was perfect all around today. Great at run blocking last week. And he rewards them with that. Pitiful.

He never looks left.

It's happened time and time again where there is a MASSIVE hole a half step left and he runs right and piles into the back of the line.

FUCK!!!!!

[Bump]

the sad thing is Butker probably could have hit a field goal from where he fumbled

[notorious]

Yeah it's perplexing two ways. Perplexing that hrs just not a good runner so far. Also perplexing that the best in the game at screens doesn't use him in the passing game.

Chiefs haven't used screens in years.

Andy has moved on.

[Easy 6]

3.2 yards a carry.

There are holes everywhere.

Fuck this guy.

Sad, we’re done here Mr Helarious

[notorious]

the sad thing is Butker probably could have hit a field goal from where he fumbled

Easily.

It was simply a time-killer run.

[Prison Bitch]

Darrell Williams is the better option.

Someone disagreed with me in the game thread. I wonder what he thinks now.

3 carries for -2 yards?

[chiefzilla1501]

He never looks left.

It's happened time and time again where there is a MASSIVE hole a half step left and he runs right and piles into the back of the line.

****!!!!!

Amazing how a guy who seems to just barrel into a running lane instead of waiting for it is also too damn slow to hit the hole. But that seems to be what we have right now.

[Mecca]

Amazing how a guy who seems to just barrel into a running lane instead of waiting for it is also too damn slow to hit the hole. But that seems to be what we have right now.

And he'll keep playing because of where he was picked.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Blame the call that put him in position to fumble instead of letting 15 slice and dice to a chip shot. But yeah another unimpressive game...

[Spott]

This is what Paul Palmer was like, just with a much better team.

[SupDock]

Blame the call that put him in position to fumble instead of letting 15 slice and dice to a chip shot. But yeah another unimpressive game...

The ball was fucking tickled out. Absolutely inexcusable. You can’t blame Reid for that. It was a stupid call though.

[Tribal Warfare]

It's official outside of size CEH is nowhere near the Darren Sproles and MJD comparisons. He's average, and becomes careless at the worst time.

[notorious]

This is what Paul Palmer was like, just with a much better team.

Do you think I started that thread by chance? ;)

[suzzer99]

And he'll keep playing because of where he was picked.

Yeah we've got at least this year and next of trying to make him work before we give up on him. If he doesn't improve we are completely fucked.

[louie aguiar]

Stupid ass pick.

Have to give you credit. You called it right after the pick. Personally, I loved the pick when it happened. I still don’t get it. He doesn’t look like the same back I saw play at LSU.

[New World Order]

It's official outside of size CEH is nowhere near the Darren Sproles and MJD comparisons. He's average, and becomes careless at the worst time.

He has no burst to turn 5 yard gains into 12 yard gains. 10 yard gains into house calls.

He’s just…too slow

[Mecca]

CEH=Rashad Penny.

[New World Order]

CEH=Rashad Penny.

Does penny have some speed? Maybe we could deal a 6th for him

[notorious]

Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

[chiefzilla1501]

The hardest pill to swallow is that as bad as CEH played we were still set up to win. How does he not have the situational awareness to put two hands on the ball. That's not playing bad. That's playing stupid.

[dannybcaitlyn]

The guy hasn’t looked the same after coming off that injury last year.

[notorious]

Yeah we've got at least this year and next of trying to make him work before we give up on him. If he doesn't improve we are completely ****ed.

He isn't good at anything.

He doesn't pass the "eye" test.

[SupDock]

Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

I know I keep repeating myself, BUT HE WAS NOT EVEN HIT HARD.

How can you be that careless with the ball between the tackles in that situation.

[KChiefs1]

I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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[RealSNR]

I told everybody to just wait it out on Clyde and give him a chance, because it's not always the case that your RB is going to be great from day one and sometimes even they need time to develop.

Maybe he'll still get better. Maybe he'll figure it out. But we're going to have to find out later, because we can't be fucking around waiting for this asshole to learn how to put two and two together when we're trying to fucking win another Super Bowl. We have other players like that on this team, but there's a special place where those guys go. It's called the bench.

So hand it off to Darrell. Or McKinnon. Fuck, hand it off to fucking Michael Burton for all I care. But let Clyde figure his shit out for awhile and get himself straight and don't put him on the fucking field until he's ready.

And if that doesn't happen, then pull the plug and move the fuck on just like we did with Hunt.

[RealSNR]

I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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Do you think Veach wasted a 3rd round pick on Lucas Niang, though?

[Spott]

Do you think I started that thread by chance? ;)

Short, quick, and no vision. Neither should have been drafted anywhere near the first round.

[Mecca]

I don’t want to hear about how great Veach is after wasting a first round pick on this turd.


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He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

[TEX]

He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

Speaks...

[Chiefsbroker]

Can we take a shot at Todd Gurley?

[louie aguiar]

He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...

Don’t forget about the shitty Khalen Saunders pick

[notorious]

Speaks...

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[Mecca]

Speaks...

That whole draft was ass except Nnadi.

[Bwana]

Yep, I would call him a bust at this point. Slow, no vision and now he drops the rock. Bring up Gore.

[TEX]

I told everybody to just wait it out on Clyde and give him a chance, because it's not always the case that your RB is going to be great from day one and sometimes even they need time to develop.

Maybe he'll still get better. Maybe he'll figure it out. But we're going to have to find out later, because we can't be ****ing around waiting for this asshole to learn how to put two and two together when we're trying to ****ing win another Super Bowl. We have other players like that on this team, but there's a special place where those guys go. It's called the bench.

So hand it off to Darrell. Or McKinnon. ****, hand it off to ****ing Michael Burton for all I care. But let Clyde figure his shit out for awhile and get himself straight and don't put him on the ****ing field until he's ready.

And if that doesn't happen, then pull the plug and move the **** on just like we did with Hunt.

You just had to bring up Hunt. :banghead:

[comochiefsfan]

He's kinda missed on alot of picks...

Sorensen plays over Thornhill, CEH blows, Hardman is an athlete more than a football player...I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

[suzzer99]

He has no burst to turn 5 yard gains into 12 yard gains. 10 yard gains into house calls.

He’s just…too slow

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

[suzzer99]

Don’t forget about the shitty Khalen Saunders pick

Saunders looks pretty good out there this year.

[Deberg_1990]

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

Kind of what I’m wondering as well. He looked faster last year before he got hurt.

[ARROW2]

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.



hasn't been the same but fuck him, he has to go or benched. Keep the ball in 15's hands at crunch time........I was just telling somebody that on the phone three drives ago. NO MORE HANDOFFS TO CLYDESDALE!!!

[suzzer99]

Maybe they can put him on the IR and bring up Gore.

[Mecca]

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

If he's being bothered by a groin injury from 8 months ago he probably should have seen a specialist in the off-season.

[Buehler445]

Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

Especially in that situation. If it's a 3rd or 4th down and they have to have it, that's one thing. This is purely a time waster. HOLD ONTO THE FUCKING BALL GOD FUCKING DAMN IT YOU FUCKING FUCK.

[RealSNR]

Are some of you seriously shitting on Veach now?

Who's the best GM in the NFL? Pick a guy. Then look at his draft record. You'll probably find some glaring draft whiffs on that resume.

That's EVERY GM.

[suzzer99]

If he's being bothered by a groin injury from 8 months ago he probably should have seen a specialist in the off-season.

Maybe it healed but somehow in a way that slows him down.

[Gary Cooper]

I never thought I'd miss this man.

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[Mecca]

I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

His best moves is spending money on vets.

[Sassy Squatch]

The price of keeping Mahomes happy, I suppose.

[chiefzilla1501]

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

So was his other arm cupping his balls? Is that why he chose not to get that second arm in to protect the ball?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Not blaming Reid. Not fumbling a ball is the most basic function a RB has to execute.

Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

[suzzer99]

Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

Totally this. Call a pass, if it's not there Mahomes will run for 3 yards and stay in bounds.

[chiefzilla1501]

He is slow to hit the holes. But that's not the issue to me. Even last year he just barreled into holes. Priest holmes he is not.

[Mecca]

Is he also blind in his left eye?

[notorious]

Emmitt Smith with better lateral movement.

He is going to be a stud.

I didn’t know I could be this excited about a player.


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[kjwood75nro]

The price of keeping Mahomes happy, I suppose.Gehrig Dieter.
Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

Hell, bring in Brittany as an assistant.

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO

[New World Order]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3ornk6UHtk276vLtkY/200.gif

I was high on him too.

I take back what I said

[Mecca]

Guess we shoulda taken Swift atleast he has burst.

[Sassy Squatch]

General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

[New World Order]

Guess we shoulda taken Swift atleast he has burst.

Every other rb would have been better.

Dobbins, Taylor, Swift.

Prob forgetting one

[smithandrew051]

Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU career:

438 Touches
1 Fumble

After watching McCoy and even Damien fumble away 2 or 3 games last year, I’ll welcome this.

You fucking idiot.

[Mecca]

General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

He got some money and decided to be a pumpkin.

[New World Order]

He’s going to be so good in this offense.

Booooo!!!!

[notorious]

I was high on him too.

I take back what I said

My level of stupidity in this thread is just as disappointing as CEH has been.


I'm JAP (Just a Poster), not a 1st round Chiefplanet Pick, though.

[BigChiefFan]

Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

[Deberg_1990]

Every other rb would have been better.

Dobbins, Taylor, Swift.

Prob forgetting one

Antonio Gibson

[smithandrew051]

General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

Maybe he’s a method actor?

He probably figures that Mahomes will be in the football version of Space Jam eventually, so he’s planning to audition for the part of one of the players who gets his talents stolen by an alien.

[Tribal Warfare]

General consensus was that this was a damn good pick besides the positional value, but all those traits just vanished. It's actually baffling.

The hip & ankle sprain injury must've fucked him up

[Mecca]

Booooo!!!!

Then he got slow, lost his burst and became a non factor in the passing game.

[New World Order]

My level of stupidity in this thread is just as disappointing as CEH has been.

I watched him at LSU bounce off tacklers, made nice cuts, caught the ball in space and made nice plays. Figured he would be great in an Andy Reid offense.

Nope.

[Munson]

He's playing like a washed up RB.

Hell, even Leveon Bell looked better than this last year, or McCoy from the year before.

[RealSNR]

You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.

[louie aguiar]

Are some of you seriously shitting on Veach now?

Who's the best GM in the NFL? Pick a guy. Then look at his draft record. You'll probably find some glaring draft whiffs on that resume.

That's EVERY GM.

I think he’s a fine gm but I think it’s fair criticism. This team’s best players are still John Dorsey players.

[Mecca]

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1439792262662299649?s=09

[notorious]

We all know what NFL talent looks like.

Here's the ball.


Go make plays.

A certain poster is going to look very stupid after 2-3 years.



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[Mecca]

You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.

At that position you generally can do that...

[srvy]

I generally like Veach.

BUT.....he's been getting the lion's share of the credit for a team whose core was built by John Dorsey.

Once Kelce and Hill are gone, we're really going to see what Veach is made of.

Were all pissed at the loss but this is a bit ignorant.

[srvy]

He looks a step slower than last year. I wonder if that nasty groin injury at the end of the year messed him up.

If he is still hurt set him down a let him get healthy. Relying on a rook and not resigning Damian was a huge mistake.

[mr. tegu]

He is slow to hit the holes. But that's not the issue to me. Even last year he just barreled into holes. Priest holmes he is not.


Yeah this isn’t new. I know I was complaining about his lack of speed and vision last season.

[wazu]

Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

This is where I am. Loved the pick, but it just seems like there are no big (positive) plays from this guy. Has he ever had a run of over 20 yards? Why don't they use him in the passing game? I have to assume it's because they don't think he's good at it, whereas I thought the deal with him was supposed to be that's where he shines the most.

[SupDock]

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1439792262662299649?s=09

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[smithandrew051]

If he is still hurt set him down a let him get healthy. Relying on a rook and not resigning Damian was a huge mistake.

We didn’t need to re-sign Williams though. He was already under contract AND cheap. We chose to get rid of him.

[mr. tegu]

You CAN, apparently, just roll with only undrafted guys and do just fine.

If we had traded CEH for Ty'Son Williams on Monday we would have won this game.


Okay that just makes me sad.

[srvy]

WE will face a lot better defense next week than the Ravens. Also a lot better QB we better forget this one. I gotta trust Spags will get this fucking defense in position and get off blocks to play better run D.

[TEX]

Edwards-Helaire just isn’t living up to his potential. I’ve been in his corner, but he really needs to up his game and start playing like a 1st round pick.

He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.

[TEX]

WE will face a lot better defense next week than the Ravens. Also a lot better QB we better forget this one. I gotta trust Spags will get this ****ing defense in position and get off blocks to play better run D.

I have zero confidence in that. Herbert and the Bolts are going to have a field day. The defense is terrible.

[Mecca]

He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.

The next pick was Tee Higgins, couldn't use him eh?

[smithandrew051]

The next pick was Tee Higgins, couldn't use him eh?

Or Chase Claypool.

Take either of them, and you can still grab Antonio Gibson over Gay.

[notorious]

I have zero confidence in that. Herbert and the Bolts are going to have a field day. The defense is terrible.

We deserve a little humbling to be honest.

Mahomes covers up so many shit stains.

[Mecca]

Or Chase Claypool.

Take either of them, and you can still grab Antonio Gibson over Gay.

You could still have Gay, you'd have gotten more out of a UDFA..

[dirk digler]

Even without the fumble, letting up like that us beyond absurd. It's not like they were in the redzone setting up for a chip shot. They had a minute plus to make the kick an afterthought and were apparently slowing things down to set up to run again to kick a near 50 yarder. Absolutely absurd.

Yep and I honestly had no doubt we could easily score a TD. Let Mahomes do his thing Andy

[lcarus]

I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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[Sure-Oz]

He is who he is. A slow smurf RB who never should have been a 1st round pick.Hes definitely not improving this offense. Pretty sure Williams and McKinnon can atleast do the same.

Looks like an avg back so far

[Mecca]

I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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Charles lost us one like this..I can forgive that because he was dynamic and made plays..when you're CEH you don't get leeway cause you don't make plays.

[smithandrew051]

I hate to say it but Ubeja was right all along. I'm not just saying that because of the fumble. Several times so far this season he's looked slow. What looks like an 8-10 yard gain ends up a 4 yard gain because the linebacker beats him to the outside. He reminds me of Darren Sproles except Darren Sproles ran a 4.3. Clyde looks like he's running up the stairs in a Freddy Krueger nightmare.

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I called him “Caught from bEHind” in the GDT. It’s fitting.

[New World Order]

Mckinnon has some burst and he’s a good receiver. He should be our 1

[ArrowHeader]

Fucking bum. Trade him

[smithandrew051]

Charles lost us one like this..I can forgive that because he was dynamic and made plays..when you're CEH you don't get leeway cause you don't make plays.

Yup the Denver game in 2015. Started our losing streak that year before we won like 10 in a row.

[Mecca]

It's pretty bad when my son who just finished 4 years of HS football is telling me his coach would beat his ass for running up guys asses and not seeing holes.

[Mecca]

Fucking bum. Trade him

For what a ham sandwich?

[Buehler445]

https://y.yarn.co/693a5c6d-96a1-41d1-8345-bb4d56af2019_text.gif

Yeah, thankfully I kept the homer on the DL. Most of my posts were a response to the Kareem Hunt pining that was going on. I had fought the fight in a thread earlier.

But yeah, I certainly didn't expect this.

[Mecca]

I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said fuck you bitch you walking home now... slap!

[BigRedChief]

I watched him at LSU bounce off tacklers, made nice cuts, caught the ball in space and made nice plays. Figured he would be great in an Andy Reid offense.

Nope.That was college, The size and speed are way different. How many times this season has he run into the back of a pile of lineman instead of bouncing to the side with lots of running room?

He's playing like a washed up RB.

Hell, even Leveon Bell looked better than this last year, or McCoy from the year before.I dont want to waste more BS runs on first down to get his confidence up.

[smithandrew051]

I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said fuck you bitch you walking home now... slap!

Don’t worry Pat, we don’t need just 1 play to define CEH. We have plenty.

[Tribal Warfare]

I like how Mahomes told him not to let 1 play define him..

I would have said fuck you bitch you walking home now... slap!


That worked out well for the Chiefs 2021 SB OL

[New World Order]

Clyde letting the 3.2ypc define him

[TEX]

Mckinnon has some burst and he’s a good receiver. He should be our 1

Made of glass...He did look better than CEH tonight. Though that's not very hard to do.

[Mecca]

What teams would trade their RB situation vfor ours? There aren't many...

[RealSNR]

For what a ham sandwich?

Do you think Minnesota will give us another CB?

[louie aguiar]

What teams would trade their RB situation vfor ours? There aren't many...

The crazy thing is we probably have the shittiest group of running backs in football and we haven’t had injuries at the position.

[Mecca]

The crazy thing is we probably have the shittiest group of running backs in football and we haven’t had injuries at the position.

Bunch of teams have a #2 better than our starter.

[wazu]

The crazy thing is we probably have the shittiest group of running backs in football and we haven’t had injuries at the position.

On top of that, we cut a guy who was under a cheap contract and was a proven performer in this offense.

[Rasputin]

CEH is still going have some great and impressive games for us so I'm not going be too down on the young RB. It sucks he fumbled but he doesn't put it on the turf all that much and he can still be a force to reckon with when he finds his groove behind this offensive line.


That carry with almost all of Ravens defense on his back for a first down was impressive just need more impressive runs out of him and he will be worth the pick. We got more concerns about our defense than our running game that will get going.

[lcarus]

CEH is still going have some great and impressive games for us so I'm not going be too down on the young RB. It sucks he fumbled but he doesn't put it on the turf all that much and he can still be a force to reckon with when he finds his groove behind this offensive line.


That carry with almost all of Ravens defense on his back for a first down was impressive just need more impressive runs out of him and he will be worth the pick. We got more concerns about our defense than our running game that will get going.

It's definitely true. I'm way more concerned with the defense than Clyde or the run game or anything offensively related.

[suzzer99]

Even on that last run it sure looked like he could have bounced it outside to the right, avoiding the pile and the defender who caused him to fumble.

But nope, he was just running straight up the wall of people instead.

[royr17]

I like CEH one bad play shouldn't define the game. Defense lost this game. Yes crucial moment like that he should've had both hands on the ball. Mental mistake and you bet this will be something that he will be reminded bout. Oh well can't win em all. Bring on the Chargers. Oh yes BTW just cause I like CEH doesn't mean he was my pick with our first pick, I wanted Dobbins or Jonathan Taylor.

[Bump]

I remember Kareem Hunts first game vs the Patriots. He fumbled and lost the fumble. He was seen on the sidelines shaking his head and had a look on his face like "fuck that, I'm gonna prove to everyone that I'm way better than that" and then had like 150 yards and dominated.

If CEH doesn't do that next week vs the Chargers, Stop Giving Him Carries.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

CEH or Hellen Keller?

[suzzer99]

I remember Kareem Hunts first game vs the Patriots. He fumbled and lost the fumble. He was seen on the sidelines shaking his head and had a look on his face like "**** that, I'm gonna prove to everyone that I'm way better than that" and then had like 150 yards and dominated.

If CEH doesn't do that next week vs the Chargers, Stop Giving Him Carries.

Kareem Hunt came back and did this:

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When CEH does something like this, everyone will get off his case.

[mr. tegu]

The problem with being optimistic about CEH is that it’s pretty clear at this point he only gets what is readily available, sometimes even less, due to blocking and scheme and that’s basically it. So even with a good game here and there he is still going to have left more out there so a good game isn’t going to be a sign of improvement at all for me.

[penguinz]

Kareem Hunt came back and did this:

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When CEH does something like this, everyone will get off his case.

He will never be anywhere near Kareem Hunt. He is what we are seeing.

[penguinz]

CEH or Hellen Keller?

Keller would be less likely to run straight into a the only group of people in the way.

[siberian khatru]

Didn’t CEH fumble late in the Bills regular season game last year, but thankfully his knee was down just a split second before the ball popped out?

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Getting rid of Hunt was a ****ing HUGE mistake. One that will continually haunt us for ages. With him our offence was the perfect machine.

[mr. tegu]

Didn’t CEH fumble late in the Bills regular season game last year, but thankfully his knee was down just a split second before the ball popped out?


That’s correct.

[RealSNR]

The problem with being optimistic about CEH is that it’s pretty clear at this point he only gets what is readily available, sometimes even less, due to blocking and scheme and that’s basically it. So even with a good game here and there he is still going to have left more out there so a good game isn’t going to be a sign of improvement at all for me.

In any case, whether he's capable of improving or not, while it is important to create a culture where you trust your players, there needs to be a message sent.

Andy needs to drastically reduce Clyde's carries. Let him figure out and find those holes while on the bench.

Inexcusable shit like this needs to be met head on and dealt with. We're on a mission. Don't fuck up that mission for everybody else.

[FlorentinePogen]

Even on that last run it sure looked like he could have bounced it outside to the right, avoiding the pile and the defender who caused him to fumble.

But nope, he was just running straight up the wall of people instead.

He's too slow and his strides are too short to bounce it outside. This a huge limitation in his game. His lack of speed really becomes apparent when you see him running diagonally towards the sideline.

Gotta move on from him, it's not going to get better.

[ThaVirus]

Blame the call that put him in position to fumble instead of letting 15 slice and dice to a chip shot. But yeah another unimpressive game...

Players play.

I don't love the call but Mahomes carving them up was probably precisely why Reid went to the run there. He'd seen our defense. He knew we needed to bleed the clock.

IIRC, it was 1st & 10 right around midfield with a little under 2 minutes left. Knowing we absolutely have to run clock, the whole playbook is open there.

That one was on CEH.

If I blame Reid for anything, it'd be continuing to trot CEH out there as the starter. He's completely ineffective.

[BleedingRed]

Need to promote Gore, If anything hopefully it lights a fire under his ass.

[Red Dawg]

Getting rid of Hunt was a ****ing HUGE mistake. One that will continually haunt us for ages. With him our offence was the perfect machine.

Yup.

[chiefzilla1501]

He's too slow and his strides are too short to bounce it outside. This a huge limitation in his game. His lack of speed really becomes apparent when you see him running diagonally towards the sideline.

Gotta move on from him, it's not going to get better.

Yeah, at first I thought he was just missing the read to the outside. Now I'm wondering if he's just not capable of bursting to the outside. Because defenses are giving that to him many many times.

[BleedingRed]

Letting D. Williams go was a mistake..... No clue why we did

[chiefzilla1501]

I think Andy needs to bench CEH and claim injury. Call up Gore and lead with Darrel Williams. It gives CEH an excuse, gives him time to figure shit out, and it's possible he isn't playing at 100% which isn't helping. Hopefully gore shines and CEH has to fight his way into playing time.

[chiefzilla1501]

Letting D. Williams go was a mistake..... No clue why we did

Agreed. He was pretty cheap. Although if gore is legit then its not a bad move.

[PHOG]

Is it possible Reid sees CEH practicing against our run _efense and thinks he's a great running back? CEH or anybody for that matter can tear up our run _efense according to the last 2 games. :huh:

[notorious]

Is it possible Reid sees CEH practicing against our run _efense and thinks he's a great running back? CEH or anybody for that matter can tear up our run _efense according to the last 2 games. :huh:

It’s possible. 3.2 would look like (groan) Emmitt Smith against our defense.

[smithandrew051]

Is it possible Reid sees CEH practicing against our run _efense and thinks he's a great running back? CEH or anybody for that matter can tear up our run _efense according to the last 2 games. :huh:

I get where you’re coming from, but Andy has been around football forever. He wouldn’t be fooled by fraudulent success in practice.

If CEH is playing ahead of McKinnon and Gore, then i wouldn’t be too enthusiastic about McKinnon and Gore.

[BleedingRed]

Agreed. He was pretty cheap. Although if gore is legit then its not a bad move.

I really liked gore in PS... I want him promoted post haste!