****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

[DJ's left nut]

Weirdly, the same exact play happened in the 2018 AFCCG and the 2019 Super Bowl (those games are reduxes of each other).

Patrick missed the one against the Patriots, then took a hero ball sack that knocked the Chiefs out of field goal range.

Williams missed the one against the 49ers, but Patrick threw the next passes away under duress and settled for three.

Williams has taken a lot of heat for the Super Bowl miss (he couldn’t find the ball). It was honestly his only off play of the Super Bowl, and it’s odd that he’s taken as much heat for it as he has (especially since he was basically our co-MVP the rest of the game). As a point of comparison, no one has dogged Kelce for his 2 piss easy drops against the Texans.

I've never seen a team play tighter than KC played in that 1st quarter against Texas.

3 drops on 3rd down? Did they end up with 4 by the end of the half?

Kelce had 2, Robinson had 1 and I think he actually had 2.

It was just a goddamn clownshow.

[DJ's left nut]

Those were both excellent catches, no doubt. I am not saying he can't catch the ball out of the backfield. When Mahomes puts the ball right on him, he catches it. I was saying that after each of the plays where he didn't catch the passes in the end zone, Mahomes looked very frustrated with Williams.

I originally said that I believe that is why Mahomes and Reid may have targeted CEH in the draft, because if they were completely satisfied with Williams, the team would have probably looked to fill a different position.

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Was this maybe one of them?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No stat really does a great job with quarterbacks because of plays like this. Absolutely beautiful throw, no dice.<br><br>Plays like this screw with even the most in-depth stats, like EPA/play or adjust net yards per attempt, or QBR, and I don&#39;t know of a way to fix that. <a href="https://t.co/4kO4QLKCz6">pic.twitter.com/4kO4QLKCz6</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1261368999004327937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Williams was interfered with to me. Ran a fine route, got separation and tried to make a play on the ball but the defender got into his body and kinda pulled his arms down.

And if he didn't, still didn't look like any kind of effort/communication problem. That's not an easy catch with a guy coming over your back for even a WR to make. The focus and hand/eye coordination required to track that ball all the way is pretty intense.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Was this maybe one of them?



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No stat really does a great job with quarterbacks because of plays like this. Absolutely beautiful throw, no dice.<br><br>Plays like this screw with even the most in-depth stats, like EPA/play or adjust net yards per attempt, or QBR, and I don&#39;t know of a way to fix that. <a href="https://t.co/4kO4QLKCz6">pic.twitter.com/4kO4QLKCz6</a></p>— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1261368999004327937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Looks like Williams was interfered with to me. Ran a fine route, got separation and tried to make a play on the ball but the defender got into his body and kinda pulled his arms down.



And if he didn't, still didn't look like any kind of effort/communication problem. That's not an easy catch with a guy coming over your back for even a WR to make. The focus and hand/eye coordination required to track that ball all the way is pretty intense.No, that was not one of them. They were all in the right corner. When I review the all-22, I usually just take notes for myself, because I am just an average fan who never played, but has studied the game for over 30 years. And because I never played I usually keep those notes for myself unless I notice something specific.

Like, in the 2018 season when Watkins was out injured, versus when he was in the game but not getting the ball, it was very obvious how much he influenced the defense even when he wasn't getting the ball. So, I said so in some threads.

The only reason I said something about these 3 plays is because when a player misses on a play in almost the exact same way, it sticks out. The play in the SB was the 3rd of those plays.

And I know he said he didn't see the ball, but to me he just made a poor effort, kinda easing up after getting held. Was he grabbed? Yeah, but I still think he should have caught the ball. I know that may sound harsh, but because I had seen the previous plays where he made poor efforts in that same part of the end zone, I didn't give him the benefit of the doubt.

But, I threw away my notes because none of that matters at all anymore because we won the Super Bowl! I didn't mean to start any shit, I was just speculating as to why they targeted a pass catching specialist at the running back position. I am in no way saying that CEH is just a pass catcher, I think he is a complete player and an absolute home run of a draft pick.

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[ThaVirus]

Was this maybe one of them?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No stat really does a great job with quarterbacks because of plays like this. Absolutely beautiful throw, no dice.<br><br>Plays like this screw with even the most in-depth stats, like EPA/play or adjust net yards per attempt, or QBR, and I don&#39;t know of a way to fix that. <a href="https://t.co/4kO4QLKCz6">pic.twitter.com/4kO4QLKCz6</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1261368999004327937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Williams was interfered with to me. Ran a fine route, got separation and tried to make a play on the ball but the defender got into his body and kinda pulled his arms down.

And if he didn't, still didn't look like any kind of effort/communication problem. That's not an easy catch with a guy coming over your back for even a WR to make. The focus and hand/eye coordination required to track that ball all the way is pretty intense.

This is the play I was misremembering lol

I just watched the broadcast version on GamePass (that shit is awesome, by the way) and Williams comes off as too nonchalant for me. It was good defense, for sure, but I felt Damien too casually extended his arms for the catch. Looks like he short arms it a bit.

Didn't like the look of it.

[DJ's left nut]

This is the play I was misremembering lol

I just watched the broadcast version on GamePass (that shit is awesome, by the way) and Williams comes off as too nonchalant for me. It was good defense, for sure, but I felt Damien too casually extended his arms for the catch. Looks like he short arms it a bit.

Didn't like the look of it.

Well we all have our own version of events, I suppose.

Looks to me like he was making a play on the ball, the contact put his balance off and he tried to make a lunge for the ball while also using his arms to keep from eating shit outright.

That was gonna take an play that I just don't think you can expect any RB to make. Most WRs struggle to control their body well enough to corral that guy.

Maybe if he lays out for it to try to get just a little more separation and let him turn into the ball he can snag it, but again - dude's still a runningback. And being a good pass catching back still doesn't make him a great wide receiver. Ain't a lot of Marshall Faulk sorts out there with the ability to play tailback OR slot receiver.

[Ubeja Vontell]

Use the guy right and he will thrive, trying to use him as a line banger....nope!

He appears kinda cheeky, curious if he has a problem with his weight.

[DaneMcCloud]

Jesus Christ. That is so savage. LMAOLMAO

Looks like Tarzan.

Plays like Jane.

[Easy 6]

Here it is, your first look at CEH in action for the Chiefs

https://www.nfl.com/videos/madden-20-first-look-clyde-edwards-helaire-on-the-chiefs

[Shaid]

Underwhelming. He's much better in real life. Of course, it is Madden.

[Pitt Gorilla]

jump cut should have been more devastating.

[Easy 6]

Those pass catching skillz looked pretty sweet...

[RunKC]

I’m convinced that Veach’s talk about not getting many yards on early downs to help our offense was directly linked to the 2018 Broncos game at Denver. Just watching this game and Kareem did so much to help our offense that game.

We were getting at least 4 yards a pop nearly every carry.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I’m convinced that Veach’s talk about not getting many yards on early downs to help our offense was directly linked to the 2018 Broncos game at Denver. Just watching this game and Kareem did so much to help our offense that game.

We were getting at least 4 yards a pop nearly every carry.I LOVE CEH, but Veach could have kept Hunt.

[Ubeja Vontell]

Getting yards on early downs is more 225ish banger back, hmmmm?

[JakeF]

Will CEH surpass 800 receiving yards 2020?

[Skyy God]

Getting yards on early downs is more 225ish banger back, hmmmm?

Just shut up.

That guy is gonna fumble his way out of the league.

[ThaVirus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve seen some worried about Clyde Edwards-Helaire&#39;s pass blocking ability, but the Chiefs were 28th in percentage of passes with an RB pass blocking (13%) last year. Not sure that&#39;s going to be a problem at all for CEH. Ke&#39;Shawn Vaughn and Cam Akers will be tested more often. <a href="https://t.co/qLRcyXEmao">pic.twitter.com/qLRcyXEmao</a></p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1261317917074952195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

Not to mention CEH staying in to block often would be a waste of his talent.

[DJ's left nut]

Not to mention CEH staying in to block often would be a waste of his talent.

Eh.

If it gives Mahomes another 1/2 second to find Hill, Kelce, Watkins or Hardman, it's a fine use of your RB.

Ultimately I think the Chiefs kept their RBs out of pass blocking situations by necessity as much as design. They just weren't very good at it so why set them up to fail?

I'd like to see a significant improvement in what we've gotten there of late. If the dude isn't a credible threat as a pass blocker then you kinda have an idea what you'll need to do to address him. But if there's as good a chance that he'll stay in and block as there is that he'll go into the pattern, it makes you a little more reticent to blitz. And if that's going to be the case, he's gonna need to be a good run blocker.

But he's a sturdy guy who shouldn't lose the leverage battle often. He has enough mass and want to. The technique is easy enough to teach since you're really just trying to slow a guy up rather than stonewall him (JC was able to learn it and he's smaller than CEH and as sharp as a hammer).

I don't think there's any benefit to hand-waiving it. Predictability is a bad thing and if he's routinely out in the pattern because he's an unreliable blocker, that's just one more thing that DCs will be able to use as a static point when trying to gameplan.

[O.city]

It's something he'll just have to learn. I'm not too worried about it.

Andy's screen game is gonna be optimal with this dude. It's gonna be just hard a shit to handle. You can get Hill and Watkins and Hardman running everyone off to clear space and drop a screen right in behind them. That makes for an easy 15 yard gainer.

[DJ's left nut]

It's something he'll just have to learn. I'm not too worried about it.

Andy's screen game is gonna be optimal with this dude. It's gonna be just hard a shit to handle. You can get Hill and Watkins and Hardman running everyone off to clear space and drop a screen right in behind them. That makes for an easy 15 yard gainer.

I'm inclined to agree with you. I'm just saying we shouldn't just say it won't matter.

And yeah, I feel like we've shelved the RB screen game since we lost Charles. Even Hunt didn't seem to get all that much run there. And Andy is just a wizard when it comes to screen design.

He can do some really cool shit with the screen game and even that would be improved if you can put CEH having some nice pass rush reps on paper. If there's a higher chance of him staying in to block, then that delay he takes in the middle of the formation before sneaking out for an inside screen makes sense. You're not telegraphing it at that point and Mahomes can just flip that ball up and over the line with 15 yards of green and a convoy in front of CEH (because afterall, the rest of the weapons will mean you can't pack the box).

[staylor26]

Eh.

If it gives Mahomes another 1/2 second to find Hill, Kelce, Watkins or Hardman, it's a fine use of your RB.

Ultimately I think the Chiefs kept their RBs out of pass blocking situations by necessity as much as design. They just weren't very good at it so why set them up to fail?

I'd like to see a significant improvement in what we've gotten there of late. If the dude isn't a credible threat as a pass blocker then you kinda have an idea what you'll need to do to address him. But if there's as good a chance that he'll stay in and block as there is that he'll go into the pattern, it makes you a little more reticent to blitz. And if that's going to be the case, he's gonna need to be a good run blocker.

But he's a sturdy guy who shouldn't lose the leverage battle often. He has enough mass and want to. The technique is easy enough to teach since you're really just trying to slow a guy up rather than stonewall him (JC was able to learn it and he's smaller than CEH and as sharp as a hammer).

I don't think there's any benefit to hand-waiving it. Predictability is a bad thing and if he's routinely out in the pattern because he's an unreliable blocker, that's just one more thing that DCs will be able to use as a static point when trying to gameplan.

I’m not saying don’t ever leave him in to block. I’m saying if you are leaving him in to block often it’s a waste of his talent. I don’t see how you can argue that it’s not.

I mean, look at the teams at the bottom of that list. Teams with good receiving backs like the Chiefs, Chargers, Texans etc. clearly agree.

[DJ's left nut]

I’m not saying don’t ever leave him in to block. I’m saying if you are leaving him in to block often it’s a waste of his talent. I don’t see how you can argue that it’s not.

I mean, look at the teams at the bottom of that list. Teams with good receiving backs like the Chiefs, Charger, Texans etc. clearly agree.

But nobody has the opportunity cost associated with a throw to the RB that the Chiefs do.

Any throw to CEH is at the expense of a target to a guy that's just more dangerous. And that's not a slight on CEH, it's a statement as to how dangerous the rest of the skill position players are. And frankly, those teams don't have nearly as important a guy to protect back there either. Not even the Texans (who are coached by a mouth-breathing idiot, so I'm not sure I'd lean to heavily into anything they do).

We had people advocating for a 1st round Center because "you have to protect the franchise!" - the idea being that anything to keep Mahomes upright is worthwhile. If keeping him in, say, 18-20% of the time yields a less predictable offense while getting Mahomes hit a couple times/gm less, I don't think that's a waste of his talent at all.

You're trading off some production from CEH in exchange for protecting your crown jewel and creating a little more production for higher efficiency downfield targets.

I don't think the Chiefs need to be leading the league there by any means, but I also don't think I want them in the bottom 1/3 either.

[Dante84]

It's something he'll just have to learn. I'm not too worried about it.

Andy's screen game is gonna be optimal with this dude. It's gonna be just hard a shit to handle. You can get Hill and Watkins and Hardman running everyone off to clear space and drop a screen right in behind them. That makes for an easy 15 yard gainer.

I'm excited for the fake screens.

You know, where they are so worried about the dump off that the defense scrambles as Mahomes sets up for the drop off, only to pump fake and then look deep to Hardman or Tyreek.

[ThaVirus]

I'm excited for the fake screens.

You know, where they are so worried about the dump off that the defense scrambles as Mahomes sets up for the drop off, only to pump fake and then look deep to Hardman or Tyreek.

Maybe I'm just drawing a blank, but does Andy run any type of fake screens? I don't remember seeing any.

[BleedingRed]

Maybe I'm just drawing a blank, but does Andy run any type of fake screens? I don't remember seeing any.

yes he has a fake TE Screen to a RB Screen on the other side. I dn the play, but i think they used it on Williams TD vs the patriots. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nKLkj0FzoEo?start=594" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ThaVirus]

yes he has a fake TE Screen to a RB Screen on the other side. I dn the play, but i think they used it on Williams TD vs the patriots. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nKLkj0FzoEo?start=594" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sorry, I should have said "does Andy run any fake screens and then go deep" like the dude I was replying to suggested.

I think that TD to Williams was just a screen anyway. There's some misdirection with the play action and Mahomes rolling right with the Kelce option in the flat, but it looks like it was a designed screen all the way.

[O.city]

You can't really run anything more than a fake smoke screen and go deep as with screens you're having OL get out in front. That doesn't work very well.

[ThaVirus]

You can't really run anything more than a fake smoke screen and go deep as with screens you're having OL get out in front. That doesn't work very well.

That's what I'm getting at. In order to sell the screen you've gotta have OL moving, and when they start doing that you're not giving your QB time to sit back there and wait for someone to come open deep down field.

We could try something like a fake WR screen where the blocking WR just fakes going for a block and goes upfield instead, but I don't remember ever seeing Reid run one of those in his time here.

[Chiefshrink]

You know the mad scientist is drawing up some devious killer plays for the "The Fresh Prince of Helaire" involved.:D

[bowener]

I just want the fucker to be able to pick up a first down when we have 3rd and 5. If he can do that a majority of the times he is asked to, opposing teams will be absolutely fucked.

[Tribal Warfare]

I just want the fucker to be able to pick up a first down when we have 3rd and 5. If he can do that a majority of the times he is asked to, opposing teams will be absolutely fucked.

Shit, why cut it at that more like 2nd and 5

[DJ's left nut]

I just want the fucker to be able to pick up a first down when we have 3rd and 5. If he can do that a majority of the times he is asked to, opposing teams will be absolutely fucked.

Just gimme 2nd and 4 when it's there instead of 2nd and 8.

Veach was whispering poetry in my ear when he said that the reason they liked CEH so much was that they were blocking up runs for 8 yards and getting 1. It was sooooo maddening because I knew exactly what he was talking about.

Mahomes had to pull us from the fire far too often on 3rd and long because we spent way too much time behind the sticks when we shouldn't have been. You could see yardage out there we just didn't get.

I don't care if the guy only runs for 800 yards so long as those 800 yards were efficient and came in situations that allowed us to be more aggressive elsewhere.

With this system and these weapons, the running game should be little more than an opportunity to set up the passing game for better opportunities. Or maybe a 'break glass in case of emergency' option if the passing game is just out of sorts due to injury like the Colts game.

[L.A. Chieffan]

All respect to Damien and I think he should've won SB MVP in all fairness, having a talented back like Clyde is gonna make this offense insane. It's gonna make the Rams offense of Warner Faulk look like chumps

[bringbackmarty]

I think Damien is a terrific back who is going to begin the season as the starter because he has earned it. Andy has a lot of trust with him, especially in the passing game. Clyde's ability to learn the playbook, his overall growth in the offense or an injury to dwill will determine the level of participation in the upcoming season. Williams is not that old and doesn't play in a run heavy offense. He does have an injury history but he is due for at least one relatively injury free season. He He may be the guy all of next year, especially if it's a shortened or delayed season. I expect a 60/40 split out of the gate, depending on the circumstances of the season.

[bringbackmarty]

That's not to take away from Clyde, I think he's a stud but it's a more complicated and nuanced offense now than 2018 when we plugged Kareem in after ware got hirtt. Especially with the oline being a little thin in terms of depth and experience. I feel like he will be able to do all of the things required of an Andy Reid running back but maybe not get the chance right away because he needs some time with the playbook and some polishing in a few areas. If it isn't a necessity I bet Andy takes it slow with Clyde Frog and he will be a better back for it.

[Dunerdr]

All respect to Damien and I think he should've won SB MVP in all fairness, having a talented back like Clyde is gonna make this offense insane. It's gonna make the Rams offense of Warner Faulk look like chumps

I thought he should have been it right after the game, but rewatching it you realize the magic mahomes was really working.

[gonefishin53]

Andy and Brett didn't draft Clyde to watch Damien get 1 yard on a first down run play that was blocked well enough to get 8 yards. CEH's final year at LSU was in an offense where he was utilized exactly as AR and EB plan to use him. AR and EB will want CEH getting at least 20 carries or targets per game from start to finish of the 2020 season. The Chief's 5 year plan for CEH starts game 1 of the 2020 season.

[Sofa King]

Andy and Brett didn't draft Clyde to watch Damien get 1 yard on a first down run play that was blocked well enough to get 8 yards. CEH's final year at LSU was in an offense where he was utilized exactly as AR and EB plan to use him. AR and EB will want CEH getting at least 20 carries or targets per game from start to finish of the 2020 season. The Chief's 5 year plan for CEH starts game 1 of the 2020 season.

I hope this is the case. Damien is a good backup to have. But CEH is clearly the better starter.

[TRR]

I hope this is the case. Damien is a good backup to have. But CEH is clearly the better starter.

What does this even mean? And who cares which guy “starts”?

The goal is going to the playoffs with a fresh RB hitting his stride. We see it time and time again. Damien’s injury was a blessing in disguise come playoff time. But KC wants to avoid what they went through last year without him.

As long as Damien or Clyde are healthy and fresh headed into the playoffs...that’s the goal.

[Stryker]

As a die hard LSU fan, know this, LSU has produced numerous top tier RB's. We struck EXTREME gold with CEH (#25). He has the quality's/potential of such greats as FAULK, SPROLES, BELL, and SANDERS. He is probably the most underrated RB. This is such the best 1st round pick we could have gotten. We will not be disappointed. Enjoy what you will see this season - he is also 21 - Kareem Hunt who? Get ready Chiefs fans - here comes the shit!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

As a die hard LSU fan, know this, LSU has produced numerous top tier RB's. We struck EXTREME gold with CEH (#25). He has the quality's/potential of such greats as FAULK, SPROLES, BELL, and SANDERS. He is probably the most underrated RB. This is such the best 1st round pick we could have gotten. We will not be disappointed. Enjoy what you will see this season - he is also 21 - Kareem Hunt who? Get ready Chiefs fans - here comes the shit!

I really enjoyed this post.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Just gimme 2nd and 4 when it's there instead of 2nd and 8.

Veach was whispering poetry in my ear when he said that the reason they liked CEH so much was that they were blocking up runs for 8 yards and getting 1. It was sooooo maddening because I knew exactly what he was talking about.

Mahomes had to pull us from the fire far too often on 3rd and long because we spent way too much time behind the sticks when we shouldn't have been. You could see yardage out there we just didn't get.

I don't care if the guy only runs for 800 yards so long as those 800 yards were efficient and came in situations that allowed us to be more aggressive elsewhere.

With this system and these weapons, the running game should be little more than an opportunity to set up the passing game for better opportunities. Or maybe a 'break glass in case of emergency' option if the passing game is just out of sorts due to injury like the Colts game.


I can't wait for this season. I JUST HOPE WE HAVE FANS IN THE STADIUM!

[Stryker]

I really enjoyed this post.

Get ready brother because we are in the best situation we could be in. If shit head Dee Ford could have controlled himself, we could have possibly been back to back to back. Five damn inches - only redemption was winning the SB against that shit head and his new team! Victory will last forever!

[Halfcan]

As a die hard LSU fan, know this, LSU has produced numerous top tier RB's. We struck EXTREME gold with CEH (#25). He has the quality's/potential of such greats as FAULK, SPROLES, BELL, and SANDERS. He is probably the most underrated RB. This is such the best 1st round pick we could have gotten. We will not be disappointed. Enjoy what you will see this season - he is also 21 - Kareem Hunt who? Get ready Chiefs fans - here comes the shit!

:thumb:

I agree- this is a perfect situation for him.

[Tribal Warfare]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-ogzZHPVQwY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Pitt Gorilla]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-ogzZHPVQwY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>Damn. The plays against Bama alone are a highlight package.

[carcosa]

As a die hard LSU fan, know this, LSU has produced numerous top tier RB's. We struck EXTREME gold with CEH (#25). He has the quality's/potential of such greats as FAULK, SPROLES, BELL, and SANDERS. He is probably the most underrated RB. This is such the best 1st round pick we could have gotten. We will not be disappointed. Enjoy what you will see this season - he is also 21 - Kareem Hunt who? Get ready Chiefs fans - here comes the shit!

I'm jacking off my erection!!!!

[DJ's left nut]

As a die hard LSU fan, know this, LSU has produced numerous top tier RB's. We struck EXTREME gold with CEH (#25). He has the quality's/potential of such greats as FAULK, SPROLES, BELL, and SANDERS. He is probably the most underrated RB. This is such the best 1st round pick we could have gotten. We will not be disappointed. Enjoy what you will see this season - he is also 21 - Kareem Hunt who? Get ready Chiefs fans - here comes the shit!

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[O.city]

Someone brought up this comparison somewhere I saw and the more I watch of CEH, the more it makes sense.

Anyone else get a little Ray Rice feel from him, non elevator time that is.?

[ModSocks]

Someone brought up this comparison somewhere I saw and the more I watch of CEH, the more it makes sense.

Anyone else get a little Ray Rice feel from him, non elevator time that is.?

The Ray Rice comparisons have been around, but honestly, the only thing he has in common with Ray Rice is his size.

He's quicker than Rice, more "moves" and better hands.

[RINGLEADER]

This guy in this offense with these weapons is just going to be lethal. If our O-Line can just be competent he could run for 1500. What are opposing defenses going to do? Good luck LBs...

[staylor26]

I think he’s a combination of Sproles and Ingram.

[DJ's left nut]

I think he’s a combination of Sproles and Ingram.

His running style is an odd mix of Bell and Barry Sanders.

I don't really know how to describe it (and no, he doesn't have the talent of Sanders, who was truly one of a kind), but that sort of patience and jittery approach reminds me a bit of both of them.

I can't really find a good single player comp. If I had to name a single guy I guess it would be Bell, but I don't recall Bell being as stop/start in the open field.

I think he gets the Sproles comp from stature and strengths more than style. He's a short pass catching back with a good first step, so Sproles springs to mind. But I don't see Sproles in how he moves in the open field.

[Bowser]

This guy in this offense with these weapons is just going to be lethal. If our O-Line can just be competent he could run for 1500. What are opposing defenses going to do? Good luck LBs...

The Chiefs have 3rd and 4
Mahomes in shotgun with CEH and Williams flanking him
Watkins and Kelce out wide
Tyreek in the slot

Where do you roll coverage or attention?

(and we STILL have Hardman, Robinson, Pringle, RSJ, Washington and the other Williams on the bench! Haha, shiiiiitt)

[Stryker]

His running style is an odd mix of Bell and Barry Sanders.

I don't really know how to describe it (and no, he doesn't have the talent of Sanders, who was truly one of a kind), but that sort of patience and jittery approach reminds me a bit of both of them.

I can't really find a good single player comp. If I had to name a single guy I guess it would be Bell, but I don't recall Bell being as stop/start in the open field.

I think he gets the Sproles comp from stature and strengths more than style. He's a short pass catching back with a good first step, so Sproles springs to mind. But I don't see Sproles in how he moves in the open field.

I get the Sanders angle but my original point was he has a little of each and that in itself is really amazing to me.

[staylor26]

His running style is an odd mix of Bell and Barry Sanders.

I don't really know how to describe it (and no, he doesn't have the talent of Sanders, who was truly one of a kind), but that sort of patience and jittery approach reminds me a bit of both of them.

I can't really find a good single player comp. If I had to name a single guy I guess it would be Bell, but I don't recall Bell being as stop/start in the open field.

I think he gets the Sproles comp from stature and strengths more than style. He's a short pass catching back with a good first step, so Sproles springs to mind. But I don't see Sproles in how he moves in the open field.

Sproles was a brain fart because I read his name before posting.

I meant to say Kamara and Ingram. I know that might sound a bit weird/lazy, but he played both roles in that Brady offense and when you keep that in mind and watch him he kind of just feels like the two put in a blender (obviously more Ingram in terms of size (not height obviously) and speed). It’s admittedly lazy, but he’s a difficult guy to find a good one for.

I like the Bell comparison too though given his patient running style and ability as a pure receiver.

Honestly, he’s got a lot of great qualities that make him comparable to many of these guys though. Can’t wait to see him.

[Tribal Warfare]

I get the Sanders angle but my original point was he has a little of each and that in itself is really amazing to me.

Clyde is built more like Sproles with weight distribution while Barry's weight was all in his legs

[JakeF]

Sproles was a brain fart because I read his name before posting.

I meant to say Kamara and Ingram. I know that might sound a bit weird/lazy, but he played both roles in that Brady offense and when you keep that in mind and watch him he kind of just feels like the two put in a blender (obviously more Ingram in terms or size and speed). It’s admittedly lazy, but he’s a difficult guy to find a good one for.

I like the Bell comparison too though given his patient running style and ability as a pure receiver.

Honestly, he’s got a lot of great qualities that make him comparable to many of these guys though. Can’t wait to see him.
Do you think that CEH runs as hard as Ingram does?

He's sturdy but didn't think there was that much power in CEH's running style.

[mdchiefsfan]

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Man. Thank you for sharing this.

The third clip they show is astounding. He nearly makes three defenders miss in the backfield. It was a modest gain, but I don’t think I’ve seen any other back move laterally with such fluidity as CEH.

One of his pros in the video is, “Able to make a defender miss in a phone booth,” and that is absolutely true. Never heard that phrase before, but it is a perfect description of how hard he is to get ahold of.

Another takeaway from this clip that I hadn’t noticed before is the direction he is looking throughout his cuts behind the backfield - Upfield at all times. His peripheral vision and processing speed appear to be near-Mahomes level.

When he and Mahomes get on the same page and begin to see the same things, look the hell out.

Is it time for football yet?

[duncan_idaho]

Do you think that CEH runs as hard as Ingram does?

He's sturdy but didn't think there was that much power in CEH's running style.

He's not as powerful as Ingram, but he does have decent power for a RB who's 5-7. It's a leverage thing... he can get under pads and win the leverage contest, which lets him create yards after contact and drive defenders forward.

[staylor26]

Do you think that CEH runs as hard as Ingram does?

He's sturdy but didn't think there was that much power in CEH's running style.

He’s not as big, but relative to his size? Yea I think it’s comparable.

A man who will make even the best tackler miss in a phone booth, Edwards-Helaire broke 70 tackles on just 214 carries this season while gaining 782 of his 1,419 yards after contact

[duncan_idaho]

Man. Thank you for sharing this.

The third clip they show is astounding. He nearly makes three defenders miss in the backfield. It was a modest gain, but I don’t think I’ve seen any other back move laterally with such fluidity as CEH.

One of his pros in the video is, “Able to make a defender miss in a phone booth,” and that is absolutely true. Never heard that phrase before, but it is a perfect description of how hard he is to get ahold of.

Another takeaway from this clip that I hadn’t noticed before is the direction he is looking throughout his cuts behind the backfield - Upfield at all times. His peripheral vision and processing speed appear to be near-Mahomes level.

When he and Mahomes get on the same page and begin to see the same things, look the hell out.

Is it time for football yet?

His elite stop-start-burst is going to make him so, so dangerous for KC. Those are the skills that make him so effective in short areas (phone booths).

Just think about his use in KC's favorite formation - trip WR to left, Kelce to right. You can stack CEH to either side of Mahomes in that formation and turn him loose on all sorts of dangerous routes (out, drag, arrow, smash to trips side).

[DJ's left nut]

His elite stop-start-burst is going to make him so, so dangerous for KC. Those are the skills that make him so effective in short areas (phone booths).

Just think about his use in KC's favorite formation - trip WR to left, Kelce to right. You can stack CEH to either side of Mahomes in that formation and turn him loose on all sorts of dangerous routes (out, drag, arrow, smash to trips side).

It's the vision that will make him so dangerous. Not necessarily explosive, but he'll be a little like water over rocks in that he'll just slowly grind out efficient production.

The way he sets up defenders and helps out his blockers is pretty remarkable. You can watch videos like that and see a half-dozen different plays where Williams would've just taken 2-3 yards and CEH turned it into 6-8.

Now there will be times that he turnes 4-5 into 0 trying to do that. And there will be runs where Williams could've found a corner and exploded for 40+ where CEH maybe gears down, makes a couple of moves and ends up at 12-15. He's not a perfect back in that regard.

But his skill set will be put to its highest and best use in this offense. Like I said during/after the draft - there are some RBs taken after him who will be better for the team that took them than CEH would've been - I'm okay with that. Because I don't think any of them would've been better for US.

[duncan_idaho]

It's the vision that will make him so dangerous. Not necessarily explosive, but he'll be a little like water over rocks in that he'll just slowly grind out efficient production.

The way he sets up defenders and helps out his blockers is pretty remarkable. You can watch videos like that and see a half-dozen different plays where Williams would've just taken 2-3 yards and CEH turned it into 6-8.

Now there will be times that he turnes 4-5 into 0 trying to do that. And there will be runs where Williams could've found a corner and exploded for 40+ where CEH maybe gears down, makes a couple of moves and ends up at 12-15. He's not a perfect back in that regard.

But his skill set will be put to its highest and best use in this offense. Like I said during/after the draft - there are some RBs taken after him who will be better for the team that took them than CEH would've been - I'm okay with that. Because I don't think any of them would've been better for US.

The vision is elite, for sure. It complements his elite short-area quickness and elusiveness perfectly.

He's going to make KC much more efficient in grinding out drives when teams play nickel/dime and play quarters or cover 3 to take away the deep shots.

Even in a dime set, it's hard to envision a team really matching up effectively against all of KC"s options. Let's take the Chargers, for example.

So in their dime set, they'll likely running a "big" dime with Derwin James lined up in the box as a de facto LB, with Adderly and Jenkins playing traditional safeties. Nick Vigil or Murray is the MLB, with their typical front 4.

Now, if you're dropping into zone, KC is really elite against that and now has a versatile underneath weapon in CEH to eat up yards in the flats or underneath the zone. His vision and elusiveness will make the run game more efficient, especially when there's only one true LB on the field.

If you're trying to man up out of that and doubling Kelce and Hill (something they and others mixed in frequently) you figure James and one of the S are bracketing Kelce. Heyward and the other S are bracketing Hill. That leaves Watkins matched up against one of Chris Harris Jr or Desmond King, Hardman or Robinson against the other, and Vigil to account for CEH in the passing game.

That's going to be a win all day for KC. Even if Hardman and Watkins don't "Win" you can just murder them with intermediate chunk plays to CEH.

I don't think there's an NFL team who has the back 7 talent to try to counter KC like the Chargers do. And if they can't "man up" and expect consistent success, no one can.

It's going to be really interesting to see how teams try to counter the Chiefs now. Drafting CEH was a definite reaction, IMO, to what teams had experienced the most success against KC with... forcing them to go on longer, slower drives, and hoping you can pop a negative play or 2 against the run and make a drive stall out.

[RunKC]

Young LeSean McCoy and MJD. This kids feet are lethal in short areas the same as Shady’s were.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

One of the things about him that jumps out for me is how he squeezes every last yard out of his touches. Sure his open-field cuts, vision, and quickness are off-the-charts, but for a relatively small guy even while being tackled he's still cutting to the most open area to get an extra yard or two. He's almost always lunging forward while being tackled, you don't see him getting driven backward often, especially for his size. Picking up an extra yard or two to keep a drive alive once or twice a game can add up huge over the course of a season.

[notorious]

Emmitt Smith with better lateral movement.

[DJ's left nut]

One of the things about him that jumps out for me is how he squeezes every last yard out of his touches. Sure his open-field cuts, vision, and quickness are off-the-charts, but for a relatively small guy even while being tackled he's still cutting to the most open area to get an extra yard or two. He's almost always lunging forward while being tackled, you don't see him getting driven backward often, especially for his size. Picking up an extra yard or two to keep a drive alive once or twice a game can add up huge over the course of a season.

That's the leverage thing Duncan alluded to in action.

You can't get under him. So he's able to keep his feet chopping and that will usually yield an extra yard or two. The other thing that helps is the nimbleness. You look at how he finished some of those runs and it's clear that the defender was trying not to over-commit to the tackle so he ends up absorbing the blow from CEH rather than delivering it. And that's gonna end up with him ceding ground for a step or two and then giving up another few yards at impact.

A guy like Williams, if you have the angle on him, you just attack because he's not gonna shuffle and blow your angle up to leave you grasping at air. But with CEH you just can't do that. You have to stay cautious and if you're reacting rather than acting, you'll end up going backwards a bit.

[Kiimo]

Emmitt Smith with better lateral movement.

I'm actually surprised that comparison isn't made more. That's immediately who I thought of.

[notorious]

I'm actually surprised that comparison isn't made more. That's immediately who I thought of.

We are talking about a RB from 25 years ago. Only us old fucks remember how he moved and how he played.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Emmitt Smith with better lateral movement.

I thought the exact same thing. Smith's first couple years with the Gators, specifically.

[Tribal Warfare]

We are talking about a RB from 25 years ago. Only us old fucks remember how he moved and how he played.

The reason why iis Emmit played with one greatest OLs of all-time, thus it's difficult to compare Smith to anybody

[smithandrew051]

He’s good at football and plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, which is my favorite professional football team. I like him.

[KChiefs1]

I’m watching a recording of the LSU vs Auburn game that was on the SECN.

He’s amazing.

https://youtu.be/fF1Ut2CXtVc

https://youtu.be/oq0LhAljGiY

https://youtu.be/HFrAdNvFjEA


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[jd1020]

Guess the Chiefs shouldn't be looking at Arkansas for run defenders.

[Kiimo]

We are talking about a RB from 25 years ago. Only us old ****s remember how he moved and how he played.

Like the first three highlights look EXACTLY like Clyde.



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[KChiefs1]

Football season can’t start soon enough for me. I’m ready to see this dude in action.

https://youtu.be/Mo_J3Yf_50A

[Bill Brasky]

Like the first three highlights look EXACTLY like Clyde.



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That spin move at 25 seconds looks exactly like Clyde in the Alabama game when Mckinney blitzed off the edge and clyde spun off him for the touchdown. He just makes it look so easy.

Also, that plant and cut at 32 seconds is just filthy.

[KChiefs1]

https://youtu.be/_IFahsB7zW8

[KChiefs1]

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/clyde-edwards-helaire-shares-how-rookie-nfl-season-is-similar-to-start-of-lsu-career/

Clyde Edwards-Helaire shares how rookie NFL season is similar to start of LSU career

Kansas City did not show an urgent need at running back heading into 2020, but when it came time for the Chiefs to pick at the end of the first round they selected former LSU standout Clyde Edwards-Helaire. As a rookie, Edwards-Helaire finds himself in a running back room with Damien Williams, Darwin Thompson and Darrel Williams. Edwards-Helaire recently shared how it reminds him of showing up at LSU as a freshman coming out of Baton Rouge Catholic.

“It’s like I’m in the same position that I was in three years ago (at LSU),” Edwards-Helaire said in a recent video press conference hosted by the Chiefs. “I was going into a college football room where Leonard (Fournette) had just left and I was there in a room with Derrius Guice, Darrel Williams – who’s actually in the room now – and Nick Brossette. I was going into a stacked room again, and ultimately I went in to learn.

“That’s the biggest thing. If you can learn from guys who have experienced the things that you’re about to encounter, you can only benefit from it. I’m the young guy at 21-years-old, and I’m working. I’m staying in my place and doing what I need to do.”

Andy Reid is sure to appreciate Edwards-Helaire’s approach to his rookie season. The running back also shared his thoughts on how Reid compares to Ed Orgeron.

“It’s hard really to compare and contrast,” Edwards-Helaire said. “The 15 minutes that I was able to sit next to Coach Reid in my Combine meeting, you still can’t get a temperament on a person. But as far as right now, Coach O is the punch-himself-in-the-face type of guy and Coach Reid, from the videos and everything that I’ve seen, he can get fired up and he can make some things happen, and that’s what I love about a coach. And he’s completely genuine.”

Fantasy Outlook:

Dave Richard's 2020 PPR rankings. Player ages are as of a presumed Week 1 date of Sept. 13.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Kansas City Chiefs

5-7 1/4, 207, 21 years old

After having to mix and match his backs throughout the past season, Andy Reid spent a first-round pick on Edwards-Helaire. Think of Edwards-Helaire as a Kareem Hunt clone -- stocky, physical and versatile with deceptively quick feet and the best receiving skills among running backs in the draft class. He also benefited from playing in LSU's amazing offense in 2019, rushing for 16 scores and just over 1,400 yards while adding 453 yards on a whopping 55 receptions in 15 games. He's a terrific fit for the Chiefs offense, one that's thrown at least 99 passes to its running backs in each Reid's seven seasons as head coach. It comes down to Reid committing to Edwards-Helaire as his main back, something he may be compelled to do after taking him with a first-round pick.

2020 DRAFT OUTLOOK: The Edwards-Helaire hype will lead to someone in every league taking him before Round 2 ends. It's a mistake if he's embattled with Damien Williams or someone else in the preseason. If he's clearly the Chiefs' top back, Round 2 might be too late.

ROOKIE-ONLY DRAFT OUTLOOK: Even with all of the great receivers in this draft class, Edwards-Helaire is irresistible as either the first or second player off the board.

[Bowser]

Still don't think Darwin Thompson is making the team.

Damien Williams
CEH
Darrel Williams
DeAndre Washington
Anthony Sherman

[RunKC]

Props to Veach and Andy for fixing a glaring problem. Now we’ve got a stable full of RB’s with excellent athleticism as receivers. Unfortunately we didn’t have that last year when Damien was out and Shady’s age showed up.

The offense is going to be drastically more difficult to defend with this group

[RealSNR]

Still don't think Darwin Thompson is making the team.

Damien Williams
CEH
Darrel Williams
DeAndre Washington
Anthony Sherman

Andy likes lots of RBs. He also likes lots of OL, but we were already keeping like 10 guys when it was just 53. Now it's 55.

The guy has some pretty good traits as a ballcarrier. I'll never turn down quickness, and he's got a lot of compact power and a good ability to squirt through small cracks. He certainly isn't going to win any Nobel awards, but Jamaal Charles wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, either. If he dedicates himself to improving on special teams, he'll make the roster, and whatever he's able to do on top of that is gravy.

Not going to be shocked if he's cut, but at this point I'd still give him a better than 50/50 shot at sticking around.

One thing is for sure, though. People took his college highlights waaaaay too far last offseason because they were desperate for multiple good RBs. Those highlights are still a significant thing to point to as a reason why he can make it on the team. Hell, even his preseason footage against future grocery baggers of America was pretty good.

Also, while I was hard on Darrel Williams last year and he ended up being a pretty good short yardage guy late in the season before his injury, I'm still not sure that's enough to keep him around. He's not exactly a lock for the 55 either

[Warrick]

Clyde Edwards Helaire Scouting Report | Kansas City Chiefs RB |

https://youtu.be/bBTfs0TzrrM

[Pitt Gorilla]

Clyde Edwards Helaire Scouting Report | Kansas City Chiefs RB |

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[KChiefs1]

Clyde Edwards Helaire Scouting Report | Kansas City Chiefs RB |

https://youtu.be/bBTfs0TzrrM


Could & will rewatch again.

[KChiefs1]

Another great breakdown.

https://youtu.be/T5qxZHX9UHI

[New World Order]

31.3 YPC against Arkansas ROFL

[Chiefshrink]

Helaire is Sproles with more power. Quickness of feet is equal to Sproles. Helaire to me is a poor man's version of Sanders and that is saying a lot. IF we have a season of football it will be fun watching this guy for sure.;)

[Halfcan]

Helaire is Sproles with more power. Quickness of feet is equal to Sproles. Helaire to me is a poor man's version of Sanders and that is saying a lot. IF we have a season of football it will be fun watching this guy for sure.;)

When you call someone a "poor man's version" of something- that is pretty much an insult. It means you are a cheap copy of the original

Sanders never drug guys five yards into the endzone. CEH is the best version of himself, not a copy.

[Chiefshrink]

Another great breakdown.

https://youtu.be/T5qxZHX9UHI

The commentator said CEH ran a 4.6 comparing him to MJD who was a 4.3 guy.

Doesn't matter because CEH has game speed and you see it on tape. Where he has spurts of 4.3 speed in the open where no one catches him. Not every RB has game speed.

[Monticore]

The commentator said CEH ran a 4.6 comparing him to MJD who was a 4.3 guy.

Doesn't matter because CEH has game speed and you see it on tape. Where he has spurts of 4.3 speed in the open where no one catches him. Not every RB has game speed.

Wasn’t he injured or not 100% when he ran his 40? Hunt isn’t a burner either but both have great initial burst .

[Chiefshrink]

When you call someone a "poor man's version" of something- that is pretty much an insult. It means you are a cheap copy of the original

Sanders never drug guys five yards into the endzone. CEH is the best version of himself, not a copy.

Not an insult at all and why I said "that say's a lot" meaning it's a huge compliment. Sorry for the misunderstanding. BTW Sanders DID drag people because he had great power. Just saying. And I think CEH has great power as well and he has the NASTINESS about him that I like to see when contact is made.:thumb:

[Chiefshrink]

Wasn’t he injured or not 100% when he ran his 40? Hunt isn’t a burner either but both have great initial burst .

Don't know about the injury i.e. to CEH. Yes, Hunt has great powerful burst but he can be caught from behind whereas when you look at CEH once he is in the open he is gone. Terrell Davis was a 4.6 guy but once he got in the open he was gone and boy don't we remember those days. Not comparing CEH to TD at all except for "game speed".

[Kiimo]

There were lots of comments about how CEH was broken down during his 40. He's faster than that 4.6 for sure.

I would be completely shocked if he wasn't faster than Hunt. He's certainly quicker.


Vision and elusiveness are way more important than homerun speed anyway. See: Knile Davis

[Halfcan]

Not an insult at all and why I said "that say's a lot" meaning it's a huge compliment. Sorry for the misunderstanding. BTW Sanders DID drag people because he had great power. Just saying. And I think CEH has great power as well and he has the NASTINESS about him that I like to see when contact is made.:thumb:

Great post!

It has been so long since Sanders played, but I don't ever remember him dragging guys. Juking them out of their jocks yes, but he took a lot of runs for losses because of shitty blocking and not breaking tackles. It is hard to put his career in perspective since the Lions were so bad. Teams did try and stack the box, but he still burned them for long TD's. Amazing talent.

CEH plays more like Emmit or MJD imo, who did have deceptive power when the defense attacked them too high in the pads.

If CEH has a career even close to any of these guys- I think we will be very happy. I think the Chiefs have big plans for him.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Wasn’t he injured or not 100% when he ran his 40? Hunt isn’t a burner either but both have great initial burst .Yes. Very much so. He KNEW he was injured and KNEW he was going to have a slow time. He was a warrior anyway. It hurt him, but it absolutely helped him fall to us.

He's not a 4.6 guy. I don't really care what he is, but he's easily faster than that.

Edit: He was a 4.47 guy coming out of HS. I doubt he's slower now.

[BossChief]

Great post!

It has been so long since Sanders played, but I don't ever remember him dragging guys. Juking them out of their jocks yes, but he took a lot of runs for losses because of shitty blocking and not breaking tackles. It is hard to put his career in perspective since the Lions were so bad. Teams did try and stack the box, but he still burned them for long TD's. Amazing talent.

CEH plays more like Emmit or MJD imo, who did have deceptive power when the defense attacked them too high in the pads.

If CEH has a career even close to any of these guys- I think we will be very happy. I think the Chiefs have big plans for him.

The Emmitt comparisons are very close imo. I see CEH and Hunt as very similar players and when I watched Hunt in college (YouTube games) I saw a bigger bodied Emmitt and I saw similar talents on display with CEH when watching games of his before drafting him in the CP mock. CEH is a better receiver but they have similar vision, running styles and contact balance. Faulk is also a good comparison, style wise.

By the quarter season mark, there will be discussions about what teams have a chance at beating us and who will give CEH a run for the OROTY trophy...maybe even ROTY.

[Monticore]

Yes. Very much so. He KNEW he was injured and KNEW he was going to have a slow time. He was a warrior anyway. It hurt him, but it absolutely helped him fall to us.

He's not a 4.6 guy. I don't really care what he is, but he's easily faster than that.

Edit: He was a 4.47 guy coming out of HS. I doubt he's slower now.

He definitely looks faster than 4.6 on tape.

[Halfcan]

The Emmitt comparisons are very close imo. I see CEH and Hunt as very similar players and when I watched Hunt in college (YouTube games) I saw a bigger bodied Emmitt and I saw similar talents on display with CEH when watching games of his before drafting him in the CP mock. CEH is a better receiver but they have similar vision, running styles and contact balance. Faulk is also a good comparison, style wise.

By the quarter season mark, there will be discussions about what teams have a chance at beating us and who will give CEH a run for the OROTY trophy...maybe even ROTY.

:clap:

If we end up with another Faulk, or even close to it- the offense will be nearly impossible to stop. Yes, the Rams had the Greatest show through the air, but it was their running game with Faulk that really gutted defenses. If CEH is what we hope he is, we could see the Chiefs having that same kind of offense that completely demoralizes a defense.

[royr17]

Priest Holmes / Marshall Faulk / Brian Westbrook. Tgats what i see when i watch his game tape.

[Shaid]

:clap:

If we end up with another Faulk, or even close to it- the offense will be nearly impossible to stop. Yes, the Rams had the Greatest show through the air, but it was their running game with Faulk that really gutted defenses. If CEH is what we hope he is, we could see the Chiefs having that same kind of offense that completely demoralizes a defense.

Pretty sure our offense already does that, but I get your point.

[Sofa King]

Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Sweetness, Emmitt Smith, LaDanian Tomlinson. That's what i see.

[Red Dawg]

Should work out just dandy.

[Dante84]

I mean, let’s not forget what Pat looked like (as a first year starter!!!) when defenses had to account for Kareem.

Now, Pat has more experience, a ring, all his weapons back, and a RB with better hands and more wiggle.

[RustShack]

CEH is going to make our great offense one of the best ever.

[Pitt Gorilla]

So the dude that said CEH to KC was his worst nightmare...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the exact moment I found out that Clyde Edwards-Helaire was going to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> on last night&#39;s live stream. <br><br>KC&#39;s wildest dream scenario is the rest of the AFC&#39;s worst nightmare. <a href="https://t.co/myoZM5iN9D">pic.twitter.com/myoZM5iN9D</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1253696074734137345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Still my favorite thing ever.

[Pitt Gorilla]

On a slightly-related note, check out last year's regular season game against the Ravens to see how CEH might be used. Pat didn't hesitate to sling it out to Daryl Williams or McCoy (prior to injury) for nice gains.

[MVChiefFan]

Still my favorite thing ever.

We’re now “that” team! Unbelievable!

[Dante84]

RB1 LFG

[Halfcan]

This kid is going to have a BIG year!

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Yup.

At this point, the ONLY thing stopping the Chiefs this year is COVID-19.

If they can ward it off and stay relatively healthy, they’re repeating.

[hometeam]

just went to 4-1 to win ORY

[Megatron96]

Pretty sure our offense already does that, but I get your point.


In 2018, when Hunt was the primary back until about week 11(?), the Chiefs averaged 37pts/gm (36.9). Good enough for 1st in scoring in the NFL. After we lost Hunt, the Chiefs scoring average went down to 32.2 pts/gm.

In 2019 w/ Damien, the team averaged 28.1 points/game, good enough for just 6th in the league in scoring.

So, respectfully, I have to disagree. The team's offensive efficiency and production would be stratospheric if CEH works out at least as well as Hunt did.

[Megatron96]

Another way to look at it would be that last season we scored 114 points fewer than in 2018.

[KChiefs1]

This kid is going to have a BIG year!


Huge year.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saying goes: “A picture is worth a 1,000 words” This picture is worth EVERYTHING to me! To wake up to this ... wow! I can’t stop crying. This isn’t photoshopped it’s REAL! That’s my baby! God is Amazing🙏🏾.<a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Clydro_22</a> U R AMAZING. <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> ❤️❤️❤️Thx <a href="https://twitter.com/shannon_helaire?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@shannon_helaire</a> <a href="https://t.co/wtbqpo2AIX">https://t.co/wtbqpo2AIX</a></p>&mdash; Tonge&#39; Helaire (@HelaireTonge) <a href="https://twitter.com/HelaireTonge/status/1288892952731889667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

In 2018, when Hunt was the primary back until about week 11(?), the Chiefs averaged 37pts/gm (36.9). Good enough for 1st in scoring in the NFL. After we lost Hunt, the Chiefs scoring average went down to 32.2 pts/gm.

In 2019 w/ Damien, the team averaged 28.1 points/game, good enough for just 6th in the league in scoring.

So, respectfully, I have to disagree. The team's offensive efficiency and production would be stratospheric if CEH works out at least as well as Hunt did.
Damn, this O was good with Hunt. It's pretty easy to see why Cleveland picked him up for free, even if they don't know how to use him.

[PattyFlakes]

I’m smelling OROY honors for this kid. He is going carve defenses up in this Offense.

[Bowser]

Damn, this O was good with Hunt. It's pretty easy to see why Cleveland picked him up for free, even if they don't know how to use him.

Go back and watch those early 2018 highlights. Hunt was a monster in this offense and I would have loved to seen what we could have been with him (up until his contract was up, anyway).

[Shoes]

Little off-topic, in a brand new fantasy league where would you draft CEH? Fantasypros has him listed as RB12 roughly depending if its standard or PPR right now.

[PattyFlakes]

Little off-topic, in a brand new fantasy league where would you draft CEH? Fantasypros has him listed as RB12 roughly depending if its standard or PPR right now.


I think he’s going to be lethal in a PPR format, much like Brian Westbrook was back in the day. I’m hoping I can snag him on the cheap in the auction format my league uses.

[KChiefs1]

Little off-topic, in a brand new fantasy league where would you draft CEH? Fantasypros has him listed as RB12 roughly depending if its standard or PPR right now.


Late first/early second round.

[Rasputin]

Little off-topic, in a brand new fantasy league where would you draft CEH? Fantasypros has him listed as RB12 roughly depending if its standard or PPR right now.

I haven't played ffl since Trent Green got koed cheap shot Bangles. I'd always pick all Chiefs so I just cant do it but if def draft CEH first especially if it's a keeper league.

[Megatron96]

Damn, this O was good with Hunt. It's pretty easy to see why Cleveland picked him up for free, even if they don't know how to use him.

It was. And if CEH performs just at the same level as Hunt did, or even just as well as Shady did for the first 8 weeks of last season, we'll probably average at least 35 points a game. If he performs significantly better than that, the sky's the limit for this offense. How many teams averaged 40 points/game for an entire season in NFl history? Maybe we'll find out.

[bringbackmarty]

Clyde frog is going to scoot, slip, slide and hop over the competition for Roy. Ever tried to catch a frog named Clyde. It's not possible. He's part American French. You can't catch those people. There's a reason Cajun justice was cancelled after two seasons.

[bringbackmarty]

And it wasn't cause the sheriff of plaquemines parish was dirty, under investigation, and voted out of office, it was he was bad at his job which Clyde Frog will not be.

[bringbackmarty]

DO YOUR JOB CLYDE FROG or Chef Andrew will cut your legs off and eat them.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">😍😍😍 <a href="https://t.co/H2hZLtfZ8O">pic.twitter.com/H2hZLtfZ8O</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1289629905588756485?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Monticore]

Go back and watch those early 2018 highlights. Hunt was a monster in this offense and I would have loved to seen what we could have been with him (up until his contract was up, anyway).

If you watch the tape closely Hunt was great at making the first guy miss on screen passes especially even when they were not well executed, always fell forward, great hands and didn’t have to worry about fumbles, he was very efficient we didn’t need him to be explosive but I loved him in this offence.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">😍😍😍 <a href="https://t.co/H2hZLtfZ8O">pic.twitter.com/H2hZLtfZ8O</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1289629905588756485?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Boner alert

[Simply Red]

Boner alert

OMG ME TOO!!

[Bowser]

OMG ME TOO!!

You seem nice. And stiff.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

https://i.ibb.co/vkDjWKV/IMG-20190305-111955.jpg

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Love seeing Matt Moore out there as well. My favorite backup in the league

[cabletech94]

When will my erection subside?

[Tribal Warfare]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qs8imD3zx0c" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Bill Brasky]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qs8imD3zx0c" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm fuckin' horny.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Got BBQ yesterday, again.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Clydro_22</a><br><br>RT if you can relate 🙋*♂️🙋*♀️ <a href="https://t.co/9jEj05yt7N">pic.twitter.com/9jEj05yt7N</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1294710010585526277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SupDock]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qs8imD3zx0c" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I know this isn't a Mahomes thread, but his accuracy is unbelievable. On that wheel route at the beginning of the thread, he didn't even look at Williams until right when he threw it, which was before he came open.

He is on another level.

[smithandrew051]

He’s good at football and plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, which is my favorite professional football team. I like him.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!

Big brain post right here.

[RoyalsAndSaints]

Watched Clyde at an LSU game last season and I am a fan. He will benefit greatly from Coach Reid and Mahomes.

[suzzer99]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Got BBQ yesterday, again.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Clydro_22</a><br><br>RT if you can relate ��*♂️��*♀️ <a href="https://t.co/9jEj05yt7N">pic.twitter.com/9jEj05yt7N</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1294710010585526277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow he's like a half inch shorter than Thompson. Darrel Williams towers over him.

[BWillie]

Yup.

At this point, the ONLY thing stopping the Chiefs this year is COVID-19.

If they can ward it off and stay relatively healthy, they’re repeating.

Ain't no more Bob Sutton around these parts.

[flinchfree]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Got BBQ yesterday, again.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Clydro_22</a><br><br>RT if you can relate 🙋*♂️🙋*♀️ <a href="https://t.co/9jEj05yt7N">pic.twitter.com/9jEj05yt7N</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1294710010585526277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Towards the end of the vid he's asked to push off again for second effort redirected runs.......THAT was some big boy fucking power there that will translate.
Love Love Love the kid.

[RealSNR]

That's cool to see Anthony Sherman giving love to Deland McCullough like that. I wonder if he'll also be climbing up the Andy Reid coaching tree pretty soon?

[suzzer99]

I got the feeling maybe Sherman was goofing around because he knew Hellaire was mic-ed up.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

He's getting some rave reviews in camp. Kid is looking good.

[New World Order]

This guy is the next Emmitt Smith

[staylor26]

He's getting some rave reviews in camp. Kid is looking good.

Care to post them?

[TwistedChief]

I think he's my favorite player even before he's ever played a snap.

[tyecopeland]

Little off-topic, in a brand new fantasy league where would you draft CEH? Fantasypros has him listed as RB12 roughly depending if its standard or PPR right now.

5th.

[TEX]

Wow he's like a half inch shorter than Thompson. Darrel Williams towers over him.

Yep. A smurf. But a good one!

[carcosa]

He’s good at football and plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, which is my favorite professional football team. I like him.

I'm skwertin!!!!!!

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you even THINK not to take CMC with the first pick?!<a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PSchrags</a> is telling you to live on the wild side ����<br><br>Happy to finally get the homie on the <a href="https://twitter.com/LefkoeShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LefkoeShow</a> ✊ <a href="https://t.co/nVrqFTQSPp">pic.twitter.com/nVrqFTQSPp</a></p>&mdash; Adam Lefkoe (@AdamLefkoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamLefkoe/status/1296088487746207744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

Schrager is clearly getting some rave reviews from his Chiefs sources.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Can't wait to see this dude in this offense. Really wish we had preseason games

[Bill Brasky]

I got the feeling maybe Sherman was goofing around because he knew Hellaire was mic-ed up.

You can see Clyde tryin’ not to crack up. “I know.”

Bahahahaha. I love Sherman. So fun.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RB Coach Deland McCullough on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RBs<br><br>Clyde Edwards-Helaire: &quot;He&#39;s a perfectionist&quot;<br><br>Deandre Washington: &quot;He&#39;s really been coming on strong the last few days.&quot;</p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1296495065112739842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[RunKC]

It’s gonna be so much fun seeing this kid. I think we’re gonna score at will like we did in the first half of 2018.

Defenses are so fucked now that our ground game will be back. Love Damien but he wasn’t getting those hard found yards between the tackles.

There’s just no way to stop this offense with everyone healthy and a quality back. You can’t get good enough personnel everywhere.

[smithandrew051]

I like the Kansas City Chiefs

[redfan]

This thread is Helaireious.

[Pitt Gorilla]

It’s gonna be so much fun seeing this kid. I think we’re gonna score at will like we did in the first half of 2018.

Defenses are so ****ed now that our ground game will be back. Love Damien but he wasn’t getting those hard found yards between the tackles.

There’s just no way to stop this offense with everyone healthy and a quality back. You can’t get good enough personnel everywhere.Might want to see what the guards are doing before we assume we can run anywhere near the middle.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Over/under 12 TDs...

[Brody Wa]

What are CEH’s chances of pulling a Roger Craig or Marshall Faulk 1000 yd receiving and a 1000 yd rushing in the same season?

[KChiefs1]

https://youtu.be/9ucSb8Jrp5w

[Kiimo]

love the thoughts but that video is bush league as hell

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I saw this "fresh" shirt online.

https://www.bunkeronline.com/frprofheredt.html

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Eric Bieniemy believes Clyde Edwards-Helaire is ready for the spotlight <a href="https://t.co/VEsMNA76jl">https://t.co/VEsMNA76jl</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheChiefsWire/status/1303082341640876032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

What are CEH’s chances of pulling a Roger Craig or Marshall Faulk 1000 yd receiving and a 1000 yd rushing in the same season?

It's a given

[smithandrew051]

What are CEH’s chances of pulling a Roger Craig or Marshall Faulk 1000 yd receiving and a 1000 yd rushing in the same season?

Any less and he’s a bust IMO

[htismaqe]

Might want to see what the guards are doing before we assume we can run anywhere near the middle.

One of CEH's biggest strengths is his ability to find a crease, no matter how small, in the interior line. The interior of this line may not be great but if anybody can overcome it, he can.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

I like the Kansas City Chiefs

#MeToo

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I like the Kansas City Chiefs

I was just thinking that.

You must be some kind of sorcerer.

[tredadda]

love the thoughts but that video is bush league as hell

He does look like a young Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> rookie Clyde Edwards-Helaire appears primed for NFL spotlight (via <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pgsween</a>) <a href="https://t.co/Ov3RDK6wjl">https://t.co/Ov3RDK6wjl</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1303452416877236230?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[smithandrew051]

He’s good at football and plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, which is my favorite professional football team. I like him.

FUCKING THIS!!!!!!!

[Stryker]

Awesomeness! 1st TD and looking sweet! I want to see him and this team vs. the Ravens - I want that victory to put it in the rear view and move forward towards the RUN IT BACK TOUR! Fuck yes!

[JakeF]

First game and he looks like a vet

He's quick and elusive, runs hard.

I want to see him catch the ball.

[carcosa]

Feeling pretty good about taking him in the first round of both the real draft and my fantasy draft!!!!

[staylor26]

Clyde the Glide is the real deal folks

[Pitt Gorilla]

Beach: Gimme one name, Pat.

Pat: Clyde

[Hammock Parties]

This is going to be absolutely unfair folks.

We just added Prime Emmitt Smith to the 99 Rams.

And Kurt Warner can scramble.

[Mizzou_8541]

Beach: Gimme one name, Pat.

Pat: Clyde

I’m dead at “beach”

[KC Hawks]

I already love him.

[RunKC]

Denver just can’t take it anymore LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC has another weapon… God help us all.</p>&mdash; mark schlereth (@markschlereth) <a href="https://twitter.com/markschlereth/status/1304240788730249218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

CEH's highlight package from tonight is going to be finish-worthy.

[Rasputin]

Soo what are teams going do they can't put extra guys in the box Patrick is going torch them with Tyreek I love it.

[Frazod]

My only concern is running him in obvious short yardage situations. Dude got stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey on that last goal line series.

But when they don't know if it's going to be a run or a pass..... damn. That kid's got some moves.

[Pitt Gorilla]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rSdjWBFmeUk" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Kidd Lex]

My only concern is running him in obvious short yardage situations. Dude got stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey on that last goal line series.

But when they don't know if it's going to be a run or a pass..... damn. That kid's got some moves.

Jerome Bettis in 97 would've been stuffed on those plays. Kids special, reminds me of MJD but quicker. Would like to see him involved in the passing game

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire made the most of his opportunities by taking advantage of the Texans when they featured a light box at snap (6-or-fewer defenders).<br><br>Edwards-Helaire Rushing vs. Light Box<br>➤ 10 att, 96 yards, TD (80% success rate)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HOUvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HOUvsKC</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/9BPreBaKOj">pic.twitter.com/9BPreBaKOj</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1304266829163122689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Frazod]

Jerome Bettis in 97 would've been stuffed on those plays. Kids special, reminds me of MJD but quicker. Would like to see him involved in the passing game

Yeah, the O-line didn't do him any favors, and neither did Reid.

Of course it was late in the game/garbage time and Houston was playing for the shredded remnants of their pride. But that was the only part of his game that was fugly.

[suzzer99]

My only concern is running him in obvious short yardage situations. Dude got stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey on that last goal line series.

But when they don't know if it's going to be a run or a pass..... damn. That kid's got some moves.

Love CEH - but we need to bring Marcus Allen in to teach him how to goal line.

[Mecca]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yep... <a href="https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf">https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1304240824297820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire made the most of his opportunities by taking advantage of the Texans when they featured a light box at snap (6-or-fewer defenders).<br><br>Edwards-Helaire Rushing vs. Light Box<br>➤ 10 att, 96 yards, TD (80% success rate)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HOUvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HOUvsKC</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/9BPreBaKOj">pic.twitter.com/9BPreBaKOj</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1304266829163122689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

he's a goddamn squid

[BlackOp]

I said his intuition reminded me of Sanders before KC drafted him...that cut on his long TD run was sick

140 in his first game...yeah, KC is going to be hard to beat.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yep... <a href="https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf">https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1304240824297820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol thought about this guy during the game. The fact that he’s a Texans fan and we played them week 1 is fucking hilarious.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire says it hasn&#39;t really sunk in that he rushed for 138 yards and a touchdown in his NFL debut. Thinks it will kick in once he gets to talk to his mom. <br><br>&quot;I feel like I could go out there and play two more quarters. I&#39;m just kind of floating.&quot;</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1304273958284468224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I saw this "fresh" shirt online.

https://www.bunkeronline.com/frprofheredt.html

I was holding off on ordering this until I saw him play.

So, I purchased it in the third quarter of his first game.

[Frazod]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yep... <a href="https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf">https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1304240824297820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I've probably watched this 20 times. May watch it 20 more. LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Soo what are teams going do they can't put extra guys in the box Patrick is going torch them with Tyreek I love it.

This is going to be 2018 all over again, except Mahomes is way better now and plays the short game like Alex.

I think CEH might actually have more burst than Kareem, too. Less power, but more burst.

[BWillie]

Loved what I saw from CEH except we need to have D Will more for short yardage. CEH doesn't have the power at the LOS until he gets going, but my god does he have vision, smooth cuts, and quickness. That is all more important than being able to run in a straight line quickly for 40 yards.

CEH's vision makes Damien Williams look like a wide receiver trying to run reverses & jet sweeps trying to read the defense.

[BlackOp]

This is going to be 2018 all over again, except Mahomes is way better now and plays the short game like Alex.

I think CEH might actually have more burst than Kareem, too. Less power, but more burst.

Hunt ran angry...it was a cool contrasting style for this offense. Oh well..they probably wouldn't have paid him and he would be gone anyway.

CEH is going to be a handful once they fully implement him...might need a bigger back for those goal-line situations.

[eDave]

he's a goddamn squid

that's a work of art it what that is. I'd frame that thing up.

[lcarus]

The dude is everything we thought he would be. His lateral agility is among the best I've ever seen. Is that being too homerish?

[BWillie]

Hunt ran angry...it was a cool contrasting style for this offense. Oh well..they probably wouldn't have paid him and he would be gone anyway.

CEH is going to be a handful once they fully implement him...might need a bigger back for those goal-line situations.

That's one thing Marshawn Lynch an do...?

[BWillie]

The dude is everything we thought he would be. His lateral agility is among the best I've ever seen. Is that being too homerish?

I can't wait to see him involved in the pass offense. He seems like the perfect Andy Reid back.

[BigRedChief]

This is going to be 2018 all over again, except Mahomes is way better now and plays the short game like Alex.

I think CEH might actually have more burst than Kareem, too. Less power, but more burst.This!

[KCrockaholic]

Did we figure up the percentage yet on how many snaps Pat was under center?

NFL is in big fuckin trouble.

[suzzer99]

I've probably watched this 20 times. May watch it 20 more. LMAO

Same here. Every time I start watching it I can't stop.

[BWillie]

Did we figure up the percentage yet on how many snaps Pat was under center?

NFL is in big ****in trouble.

Just wait until they start biting on play action with Hardman and Hill streaking.

Rut roh.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/148a126f8132de88530ea69206568c61/tenor.gif

[Strongside]

I am, uh, happy about this development.

[Hammock Parties]

Did we figure up the percentage yet on how many snaps Pat was under center?

NFL is in big fuckin trouble.

The only thing that can stop Mahomes is having children.

[BWillie]

The only thing that can stop Mahomes is having children.

Not true.

There are two things that can stop Mahomes.

1) Alex Smith
2) Bob Sutton

That is all.

[Strongside]

The only thing that can stop Mahomes is having children.

It really does weaken your arms from carrying those little shits around all the time.

Hell, look at Rivers' throwing motion.

[Frazod]

Same here. Every time I start watching it I can't stop.

Has anyone ever determined why Houston guy was wearing a Bucs chef hat and apron? From his comments about the Pats I doubt that he's a Brady fanboy.

Maybe he lost a bet.

[KCrockaholic]

I just purchased that Fresh Prince of Helaire T shirt. Love it.

[BossChief]

2200 offensive yards and 20tds this year.

[teedubya]

I told my son tonight before the game that in 2039, Edwards Helaire will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I watched so many of his LSU highlights that I became overly optimistic... but he seems to be built like Barry Sanders and Darren Sproles.

Either way, I'm making it known right here... CEH is a future HOF.

[Hammock Parties]

It really does weaken your arms from carrying those little shits around all the time.

Hell, look at Rivers' throwing motion.

We're going to need to get spec ops to infiltrate his residence and perform a covert vasectomy when Brittany's bio-clock starts ticking.

[Hammock Parties]

Either way, I'm making it known right here... CEH is a future HOF.

Has to stay healthy and not kick women in hotel hallways.

[KChiefs1]

Denver just can’t take it anymore LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC has another weapon… God help us all.</p>— mark schlereth (@markschlereth) <a href="https://twitter.com/markschlereth/status/1304240788730249218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


He is a major Chiefs hater too. September darlings was his mantra. Not anymore Stink!

[KChiefs1]

My only concern is running him in obvious short yardage situations. Dude got stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey on that last goal line series.

But when they don't know if it's going to be a run or a pass..... damn. That kid's got some moves.


Goal line had some serious issues. Take those away & he had to be averaging 8yds per carry.

[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yep... <a href="https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf">https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf</a></p>— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1304240824297820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


That’s every NFL fan watching the game tonight.

[Valiant]

Well all the rookie cards I have been buying before the game went up 10x value after the game. Time to sell some.

[eDave]

That’s every NFL fan watching the game tonight.

I can't believe no one has bumped that.

[Fat Elvis]

:titus:

Adopt-A-Chief

You just knew this guy was going to be special in this offense.

[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t lie watching <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Clydro_22</a> is like looking in the mirror. 2020 is getting crazier lol. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bowlingball2?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bowlingball2</a>.0</p>&mdash; Maurice Jones-Drew (@MJD) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJD/status/1304231611781718016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hammock Parties]

A bunch of hicks from Louisiana are becoming Chiefs fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhnNmIQWsAAZbv0?format=jpg&name=large

[KC_Connection]

Looks like a star in the making unsurprisingly. What a debut. Should we be looking for a bigger goal line back, though, to spell him?

[JakeF]

My only concern is running him in obvious short yardage situations. Dude got stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey on that last goal line series.

But when they don't know if it's going to be a run or a pass..... damn. That kid's got some moves.
Mixing in some Darryl William's runs on those short runs will help.

[JakeF]

Looks like a star in the making unsurprisingly. What a debut. Should we be looking for a bigger goal line back, though, to spell him?

Let's pick up Fournette!

[JakeF]

I told my son tonight before the game that in 2039, Edwards Helaire will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I watched so many of his LSU highlights that I became overly optimistic... but he seems to be built like Barry Sanders and Darren Sproles.

Either way, I'm making it known right here... CEH is a future HOF.He reminds me of Darren Sproles a bit. CEH has better vision than Sproles though.

CEH stepped right into the NFL without missing a beat. Very intinctive runner.

Chiefs didn't even throw him the ball, which is one of his biggest strengths.

[eDave]

Looks like a star in the making unsurprisingly. What a debut. Should we be looking for a bigger goal line back, though, to spell him?

Sausage. All day in that situation. Or Kelce somehow (lol). Shift The Rose Bowl Right Parade might have worked. I was all like "please don't sneak Pat". "Please don't sneak Pat".

[Perineum Ripper]

Who said anything was difficult, the Chiefs want to use a first round pick on a RB to catch passes. I got it.

BUT.....Taylor will prove to be the better RB.



I just wanted to quote this, so everyone can point , laugh, openly mock. This fucking idiot.



Tell us dumbass, how many catches/yards vs run/yards did this kid have last night?

[htismaqe]

Mixing in some Darryl William's runs on those short runs will help.

Lining up a guard at RB might actually get it done. ;)

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I call him Ed, old schoolers be darned

[Shields68]

Looks like a star in the making unsurprisingly. What a debut. Should we be looking for a bigger goal line back, though, to spell him?

He looked very quick side to side, great vision and great balance.

That said he does not have great speed. Not sure he is going to run past defenders on a wheel route. Goal line looks like it will be more on the offensive line to get a push.

[Chris Meck]

Hunt ran angry...it was a cool contrasting style for this offense. Oh well..they probably wouldn't have paid him and he would be gone anyway.

CEH is going to be a handful once they fully implement him...might need a bigger back for those goal-line situations.

That's what Darrel is for.

I think that last goal line sequence was just Andy trying to get the kid a 2nd TD.

I think if the game were in question, you might've seen Darrel in there after first down.

[Tribal Warfare]

I call him Ed, old schoolers be darned

Swamp Thing or the Bayou Bouncer/Buster

[tredadda]

Sausage. All day in that situation. Or Kelce somehow (lol). Shift The Rose Bowl Right Parade might have worked. I was all like "please don't sneak Pat". "Please don't sneak Pat".

Lol. At this point I would be shocked if Andy ever sends Mahomes on a QB sneak again. He didn’t have any last year after the knee injury.

[Deberg_1990]

To go from LSU to the Chiefs.

From the penthouse to the penthouse

[soonersfreak]

Clyde's combine results are almost identical to Hunt's

[Red Dawg]

He looked sharp. Now our goal line blocking not so much.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yep... <a href="https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf">https://t.co/gIPPbj32rf</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1304240824297820160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I want this played on a loop at my funeral. It never, ever gets old. ROFL

[carcosa]

I just wanted to quote this, so everyone can point , laugh, openly mock. This fucking idiot.



Tell us dumbass, how many catches/yards vs run/yards did this kid have last night?

Please don't speak ill of the dead

[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">lmao Clyde had 106 yards after contact</p>&mdash; Jordan Foote (@TheBestFooteFWD) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBestFooteFWD/status/1304460228566671361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hammock Parties]

he's pretty good

guess he gets his own gifs

https://i.imgur.com/hH3icqc.gif