Frank Clark fucking sucks

[Sassy Squatch]

At this point Veach should just go ahead and plant a heaping helping of booger sugar in his car so we can void that guaranteed money.

[O.city]

I don't give a shit about his run defense. That's to be expected of him with what he's being paid.

Go sack the QB. Alot.

I dunno what the deal is with pass rushers these days, but they don't seem to be what they were even 5 years ago in terms of production. Khalil Mack had a down year for him.

Is it just easier to neutralize outside guys?

[TEX]

Playoff Sammy always makes it worth it

I hope he has one more in him.

Except when he starts missing playoff games, like last week, he loses his usefulness.

[Megatron96]

Huh...funny, I don't see a lot of people bitching about Mahomes, CEH, Hill, Kelce, Fisher, Jones (save for RunKC), Wharton, Breeland, Mathieu, Sneed, etc. It's almost like people bitch about underperforming players. Wild concept I know.

People wanted a 100mil player to play like a 100mil player. People wanted Sammy to stay healthy. People wanted Mecole to take the next step. People wanted Butker to not set the record for missed XPs.

Why do people have a problem with praising the players who deserve praise and criticism when they deserve it. It's the whole point of a discussion board. I've said before, maybe if you don't want to read about Frank Clark not living up to the hype, you shouldn't click on a thread titled "Frank Clark fucking sucks". It really isn't hard. You can spend your whole day in the Mahomes and Kelce threads and read nothing but great things, yet you're here....

Wtf are you talking about? Do we not have a thread starting just a couple months ago titled something like "What is going on with the defense?" In which we have a bunch of people just bitching about players, coaching, etc.

Do we not have a group of the usual nitwits in the gdt posting "this defense is trash," every single week? We even had a thread earlier this season about CP's dissatisfaction with Thornhill.

And yes, we even had a thread bitching about CEH.

these are all facts. And unless you've been living under a virtual rock here on CP, you know that's all true.

And the Butker thread is just stupid. The Team is 23/24 or whatever, not one game has been decided by an XP in the Mahomes era, and in spite of missing 6 XPs or whatever, he's posted his best percentage on FGs of his career. In spite of the fact that he's working with a new holder, after having the same guy for 3 years.

Like I said, some people have to bitch.

[Megatron96]

What? Why do you think he specifically dictated anything that they did and it had nothing to do with them just running plays to their strong side which he as a weak side DE doesn't line up on?

Like I said,it's funny how according to you both Spags and the opposing OCs scheme to keep him from making impact plays. Really convenient.

So you think it was just happy circumstance that Baker didn't roll out to his left when Clark was lined up over his LT? Even though Baker's best numbers come from when he rolls out left? Even thoughBaker admitted in the pre-game interview before the PIT game that Stefanski has been making a point of rolling Baker out to his left all season? So much so that they had a joke between themselves about it? And suddenly they decide they aren't going to do it, except when 55 isn't lined up there? Even though more than 30% of Baker's TDs/chunk yardage were off the PA-rollout left?

It was just a lucky coincidence that Clark spent almost the whole game lined up over the LT? Including the last 11 in a row?

Okay. Makes sense.

[Megatron96]

I don't give a shit about his run defense. That's to be expected of him with what he's being paid.

Go sack the QB. Alot.

I dunno what the deal is with pass rushers these days, but they don't seem to be what they were even 5 years ago in terms of production. Khalil Mack had a down year for him.

Is it just easier to neutralize outside guys?

This has been a trend for a few years now. QB s are getting rid of the ball earlier. Lok at Brady for the last few years in NE. He's been gradually decreasing the time between snap-to-throw for at least a couple seasons now. Last year when we played him, someone in the pregame said he had reached a career-low for that time, 2.4 seconds?

Rothlisberger was averaging 2.2 seconds this season. Baker about the same, but he threw a lot of passes in under 2 seconds vs. PIT. And the best sack-rate DL couldn't get a single sack, and just a few pressures. I'm not sure they recorded a hit.

Now part of that you could say had to do with the fact that CLE finished the season with the best OL, if you believe ESPN, FOXSports, PFF, etc. And their back-ups might be the best in football, since they replaced their LT and one of their Gs (one of them twice ) in that game, and PIT still couldn't get to Baker.

Whatever. Point is, that yeah there's a trend of QBs throwing quicker. A lot of OCs have built their schemes on the idea. Not all teams yet, maybe not even a majority, but look at GB, for example. LaFleur has built a running game, and a quick pass offense. TB is finally trending that way.

Bottom line, no DL is getting to the QB in 2.5 seconds.

Anyone that was paying attention knew we weren't going to get a bunch of sacks vs. CLE. As I posted in the "LTACLE" thread, We'd be lucky to get a couple sacks (and that Sneed would probably get it, so I'm psychic I guess), but the important thing would be to make Baker uncomfortable, by taking away his roll out to the left, since that was basically his best 'punch,' don't let him escape into the flat behind an undisciplined rush, defend the HB screens better than PIT did.

Not rocket science. If the best DL in football couldn't record a sack vs. CLE, and they got taken to the woodshed by allowing L-rollouts and HB screens between the hashes, Spags would've been an idiot to try and expend extra resources/gameplan to sack Baker.

Lucky for us he's not that dumb.

EDIT: Correction, Spags would've been Bob Sutton. Thank God he's not.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Sorry but "suck" is an absolute term, not relative.

He either sucks or he doesn't. What he's getting paid has no bearing on the assessment.

He is underperforming, for sure, but he doesn't "suck".

That's fine so let me be more clear Mr English Professor. Frank Clark is trash for what he makes. You can't hold Frank Clark to same standard that you do a guy making half his salary. Not to mentioned we gave up some draft picks for him.

Still waiting for 'playoff' Frank Clark to show up. You guys were telling me all year he was saving himself for playoffs. Okay so against the Browns he did shit lets see what he does against the Bills.

[-King-]

So you think it was just happy circumstance that Baker didn't roll out to his left when Clark was lined up over his LT? Even though Baker's best numbers come from when he rolls out left? Even thoughBaker admitted in the pre-game interview before the PIT game that Stefanski has been making a point of rolling Baker out to his left all season? So much so that they had a joke between themselves about it? And suddenly they decide they aren't going to do it, except when 55 isn't lined up there? Even though more than 30% of Baker's TDs/chunk yardage were off the PA-rollout left?

It was just a lucky coincidence that Clark spent almost the whole game lined up over the LT? Including the last 11 in a row?

Okay. Makes sense.

Yeah it's a coincidence. And confirmation bias on your part. Just like how you think he gets doubled and chipped a lot when in reality he's one of the least doubled edge players in the league (gets doubled at basically the same rate as Kpass). Also how you think teams run away from him when in reality they're just running to their strong side and he's usually on the weak side.

I haven't watched the game again to see that specific point about the roll outs, but I'm sure the same applies here.

[Megatron96]

Yeah it's a coincidence. And confirmation bias on your part. Just like how you think he gets doubled and chipped a lot when in reality he's one of the least doubled edge players in the league (gets doubled at basically the same rate as Kpass). Also how you think teams run away from him when in reality they're just running to their strong side and he's usually on the weak side.

I haven't watched the game again to see that specific point about the roll outs, but I'm sure the same applies here.

Wonder what the mathematically odds are that CLE would accidentally run virtually every roll out away from Clark? Or what the odds are that they would stop running rollouts to the left when he was on the left? When it was their most successful design?

I'll bet it's not very good.

[htismaqe]

That's fine so let me be more clear Mr English Professor. Frank Clark is trash for what he makes. You can't hold Frank Clark to same standard that you do a guy making half his salary. Not to mentioned we gave up some draft picks for him.

Still waiting for 'playoff' Frank Clark to show up. You guys were telling me all year he was saving himself for playoffs. Okay so against the Browns he did shit lets see what he does against the Bills.

Actually, I've been saying all year that they need to find a way to reduce Clark's cap hit or cut him after 2021. I'm not all that interested in defending his play, which isn't up to snuff.

However, this place throws out words like "suck" and "trash" with ridiculous frequency. It's adolescent at best.

[KChiefs1]

He was feeling good today during the press conference.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I don't give a shit about his run defense. That's to be expected of him with what he's being paid.

Go sack the QB. Alot.

I dunno what the deal is with pass rushers these days, but they don't seem to be what they were even 5 years ago in terms of production. Khalil Mack had a down year for him.

Is it just easier to neutralize outside guys?

Know how I know you don't understand football?

[Buehler445]

Actually, I've been saying all year that they need to find a way to reduce Clark's cap hit or cut him after 2021. I'm not all that interested in defending his play, which isn't up to snuff.

However, this place throws out words like "suck" and "trash" with ridiculous frequency. It's adolescent at best.

You must be new here :D

[htismaqe]

You must be new here :D

:D

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

:D

You suck:):drool:

[dlphg9]

Know how I know you don't understand football?

How?

[DTVietnam]

I understand the hate last year the first 8 games...but how anyone could hate him now...or not want him to be a Chief for life is dumb. .

in other news

This shirt!!!

https://i.ibb.co/RhNtzJz/Frank.jpg

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ac2abf9e17ba36237d45260/1606759506679-S2UJ5M93K1TLROPQOAD7/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kJK4Mm1kch8SFO9ZNkN1NT97gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z5QHyNOqBUUEtDDsRWrJLTmN9YSRtfoTLg6dUq-6F17A0FFZK5fArcnK1IqGweyunyWChwIwkIJ_P7MaZif-uMs/NNADI+OR+NICE+2020+-+GREEN+SWEATSHIRT+%282%29.png?format=1000w

[Munson]

Playoff sack!

[smithandrew051]

Frank Fucking Clark

[RunKC]

6 sacks in 5 playoff games as a Chief.

Guys is that good?

[Hammock Parties]

TWO SACKS BITCHES

BOW DOWN TO CLARK THE SHARK

https://i.imgur.com/DhpVjOa.gif

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Worth....every fucking penny.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

6 sacks in 5 playoff games as a Chief.

Guys is that good?

Yes...especially with the Def. scheme we are playing...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

2 sacks tonight... pressured Allen numerous times, all while remaining disciplined with his approach.

Effort honestly looked next level. There are definitely times when he just ‘turns it on’, for whatever reason...

Need 4 more quarters.

[RunKC]

I stand corrected.

7 (SEVEN!) sacks in 5 playoff playoff games as a Chief.

[PattyFlakes]

Dude has been underwhelming in the regular season, but damn he freaking balls out in the playoffs. I’m a big fan of playoff Frank.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Lol haters

[Munson]

Dude has been underwhelming in the regular season, but damn he freaking balls out in the playoffs. I’m a big fan of playoff Frank.

Playoff Frank is the best Frank.

[bringbackmarty]

No he doesn't.

[TwistedChief]

Anyone who hates him after his post-AFCCG interview last year is a shortsighted punk ass bitch.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

FRANK THE SHARK CLARK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Why Not?]

He's a rich man's Dan Sorensen. Dude just balls in the playoffs.

[Hammock Parties]

YAS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark was asked if he had a message for Tom Brady: &quot;I don&#39;t have anything to say to him, honestly. I&#39;ll see his ass on Sunday at the Super Bowl.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1353559590013693952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Clark is ready!!!

[dirk digler]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Won not done. �� <a href="https://t.co/1qXXfiIzDb">pic.twitter.com/1qXXfiIzDb</a></p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1353560995113930752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hammock Parties]

KING

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsjQOPfXIAAvr33?format=jpg&name=large

[-King-]

Great game today.

[srvy]

That's one badass coat. He is gonna get some nasty tweets from Peta

[joethomas]

Once again, Clark shows up in the big moments.

[Pitt Gorilla]

KING

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsjQOPfXIAAvr33?format=jpg&name=large

THAT SHIRT!!!!! WHERE CAN I GET THAT SHIRT?!?!

[Pitt Gorilla]

Anyone who hates him after his post-AFCCG interview last year is a shortsighted punk ass bitch.

That is clearly correct.

[Easy 6]

Black Elvis took Buffalo to the Heartbreak Hotel

[Rasputin]

It's ok Primus sucks too

[Pants]

Black Elvis took Buffalo to the Heartbreak Hotel

LMAO

[Buehler445]

That's one badass coat. He is gonna get some nasty tweets from Peta

I'd pay money to see his reactions to PETA tweets.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> is an entire mood ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RunItBack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RunItBack</a> <a href="https://t.co/Da6O92Imy7">pic.twitter.com/Da6O92Imy7</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353545828456165376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[thabear04]

https://youtu.be/pAuQlW7-QXs

Clark at the end saying to Brady I’ll see his ass on Sunday during the Super Bowl.

[Megatron96]

Let's hear from the shitbird crowd: "oh, but they were only coverage sacks!"

C'mon, fucktards, get it out now. God knows you need your moment. Not like you can shit on Butker. Gotta find something to piss and moan about.

[-King-]

Let's hear from the shitbird crowd: "oh, but they were only coverage sacks!"

C'mon, fucktards, get it out now. God knows you need your moment. Not like you can shit on Butker. Gotta find something to piss and moan about.

So far you're the only one pissing and moaning LMAO

[Clyde Frog]

https://youtu.be/pAuQlW7-QXs

Clark at the end saying to Brady I’ll see his ass on Sunday during the Super Bowl.

LMAO...

[Megatron96]

So far you're the only one pissing and moaning LMAO

You got me there. Nicely played.:p

[pugsnotdrugs19]

https://twitter.com/pff/status/1353734652297699328?s=21

Tied for most pressures in last two playoffs with Nick Bosa.

[wazu]

Let me help you with that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark: 22 total pressures in the playoffs over the last two seasons <br><br>T-1st w/ Nick Bosa <a href="https://t.co/77A5tLiwMi">pic.twitter.com/77A5tLiwMi</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1353734652297699328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[pugsnotdrugs19]

Let me help you with that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark: 22 total pressures in the playoffs over the last two seasons <br><br>T-1st w/ Nick Bosa <a href="https://t.co/77A5tLiwMi">pic.twitter.com/77A5tLiwMi</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1353734652297699328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Thanks

Can’t ever embed from the phone it seems

[staylor26]

Funny how the usual suspects are either nowhere to be found or had very little to say about his performance...

[Gary Cooper]

Let me help you with that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark: 22 total pressures in the playoffs over the last two seasons <br><br>T-1st w/ Nick Bosa <a href="https://t.co/77A5tLiwMi">pic.twitter.com/77A5tLiwMi</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1353734652297699328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Bosa didn't even play this year's playoffs. He had 22 pressures in three games last year? That's scary.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Bosa didn't even play this year's playoffs. He had 22 pressures in three games last year? That's scary.

Had like 10-11 in the Super Bowl alone.

[Sassy Squatch]

Ideally Clark will continue to play his best, but I just hope we don't have a repeat of what happened the last time we played the Buccaneers. Clark was an absolute idiot that game and I still don't really understand what went on mentally there.

[stevieray]

Get another SB Ring Frank, won't bother me a bit.

60 minutes away.

[MIAdragon]

Ideally Clark will continue to play his best, but I just hope we don't have a repeat of what happened the last time we played the Buccaneers. Clark was an absolute idiot that game and I still don't really understand what went on mentally there.

IIRC it was against a 3rd string OL too.

[ThaVirus]

Clark played a great game, credit where it's due. He looked like a $100m end. I was a bit worried as I noticed he was getting stonewalled a lot in the 1st quarter but he turned up down the stretch.

Honestly, the whole DL played an insane game. Everyone was getting pressure.

[scho63]

Clark is still taking the widest arc I've ever seen on a lineman. He is about 15 yards away at his widest point. Wondering if he lost strength and trying to beat with speed he doesn't have.

[DTVietnam]

He was ready for war Sunday night:

https://i.ibb.co/NYF8Jmg/Frank.png

[staylor26]

Clark is still taking the widest arc I've ever seen on a lineman. He is about 15 yards away at his widest point. Wondering if he lost strength and trying to beat with speed he doesn't have.

Lol imagine being worried about Clark AFTER Sunday....

[PAChiefsGuy]

Funny how the usual suspects are either nowhere to be found or had very little to say about his performance...

I'm just enjoying the ride right now. I don't really feel like getting into this we are about to repeat as SB champs.

I still don't like the Clark trade. How anyone can be excited about this guy who shows up 10% of the season is beyond me.

[staylor26]

I'm just enjoying the ride right now. I don't really feel like getting into this we are about to repeat as SB champs.

I still don't like the Clark trade. How anyone can be excited about this guy who shows up 10% of the season is beyond me.

LMAO

That’s because you’re a fucking idiot.

[Hammock Parties]

Clark is going to buttfuck Tom Pedy

[PurpleJesus28]

Clark is going to butt**** Tom Pedy

https://i.gifer.com/Vps.gif

[PAChiefsGuy]

LMAO

That’s because you’re a ****ing idiot.

You're entitled to your opinion.

End of day you're just a fan posting on a message board just like me. Just because your fantasy football team does better than your boyfriends doesn't make you some football genius. So go **** yourself.

That said - Clark is a Chief. I'm rooting for him. He did great last Sunday. Hopefully he ****s up Brady on SB Sunday. Lets get it!

[DTVietnam]

see if u can spot the differences in these 2 pictures. .

https://scontent.fsgn5-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141556604_10159067447893373_4052902090275405228_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=MoYSbDFeACoAX_jLXty&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-7.fna&oh=a34e709c5f147d2fe05b266057c967a7&oe=6037345A




https://previews.123rf.com/images/nejron/nejron1902/nejron190200148/116625210-african-lion-near-dead-cape-buffalo-in-kenya.jpg

[Pitt Gorilla]

see if u can spot the differences in these 2 pictures. .

https://scontent.fsgn5-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141556604_10159067447893373_4052902090275405228_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=MoYSbDFeACoAX_jLXty&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-7.fna&oh=a34e709c5f147d2fe05b266057c967a7&oe=6037345A




https://previews.123rf.com/images/nejron/nejron1902/nejron190200148/116625210-african-lion-near-dead-cape-buffalo-in-kenya.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/upfhJpWh.jpg

[TwistedChief]

see if u can spot the differences in these 2 pictures. .

https://scontent.fsgn5-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141556604_10159067447893373_4052902090275405228_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=MoYSbDFeACoAX_jLXty&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-7.fna&oh=a34e709c5f147d2fe05b266057c967a7&oe=6037345A




https://previews.123rf.com/images/nejron/nejron1902/nejron190200148/116625210-african-lion-near-dead-cape-buffalo-in-kenya.jpg

There's more life in the buffalo's eyes.

[Sassy Squatch]

Wish it was a shark eating a buffalo.

[thabear04]

https://i.redd.it/pf2nnjnm1g441.jpg

[Toad]

https://i.redd.it/pf2nnjnm1g441.jpg

Very cool!

[TheSourceX1]

see if u can spot the differences in these 2 pictures. .

https://scontent.fsgn5-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141556604_10159067447893373_4052902090275405228_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=MoYSbDFeACoAX_jLXty&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-7.fna&oh=a34e709c5f147d2fe05b266057c967a7&oe=6037345A




https://previews.123rf.com/images/nejron/nejron1902/nejron190200148/116625210-african-lion-near-dead-cape-buffalo-in-kenya.jpg


Not sure if you're being serious or not but the difference is quite obvious. One is Frank Clark at Arrowhead, and the other is an away game....eesh.

[lawrenceRaider]

Patrick Mahomes has zero Superbowl appearances without Frank Clark, and the Chiefs have been in the Superbowl every year Clark has been on the team.

[Tribal Warfare]

https://i.redd.it/pf2nnjnm1g441.jpg

No shit it looks like Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers staring down a victim

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Clark...worth every penny

[DTVietnam]

From the day he signed Frank said it wasnt about stats..

it was about bringing the swag and lifting his teammates.. the intangibles.. .

so all u stat counters can **** off

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/d6JNlOMqOh">https://t.co/d6JNlOMqOh</a><br>I&#39;m a bit of a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> nerd, so I watched this entire <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> press conference again. I was inspired then and I&#39;m still inspired now. For all the numbers folks... he told you what it was that day. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RunItBack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RunItBack</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Chad Avery (@KCChiefsChad20) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefsChad20/status/1353877004328853504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For Shakespeare, swagger meant “to walk or strut with a defiant or insolent air” or “to boast or brag noisily.” It's based on swag, or “sway,” as a swaggerer may so strut—and extended, by 1990s hip-hop, to “a confident attitude.”

https://media4.giphy.com/media/d5rNQmI9iWjp6B2E1g/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47a6ibwmb28umke6zkm4pwvspby6o7qyhje2sgtwzj&rid=giphy.gif

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hahaha You da man Frank Clark! Go Chiefs! <a href="https://t.co/knFfJy5pxx">pic.twitter.com/knFfJy5pxx</a></p>&mdash; Coffee Junkie (@nexus_coffee) <a href="https://twitter.com/nexus_coffee/status/1354262647840108546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[thabear04]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“There’s nothing like competing for that Vince Lombardi Trophy.” <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a><br><br>Kingdom Short: Divisional Round drops tonight at 7 pm!</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1352740465834160130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DTVietnam]

He had the mic Sunday night:

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[Megatron96]

Clark the Shark is going to have another great SB performance. Probably make another Super Bowl-winning play.

[ChiefsFanatic]

I wish someone would ask him why he changed shoes at halftime. It's really bugging me, because it stands out so much when I am watching the game back, over and over.

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[ThyKingdomCome15]

Frank is a huge part of our defense. He just is.

[KChiefs1]

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[Halfcan]

The Shark will take a bite out of Brady!

[kccrow]

I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't stick it in Tom's ass this game. Donovan Smith is average at best and shouldn't be quick enough to stop Clark. He needs to earn his check in the big one. I can't say I'm happy with his overall product, but he does tend to step it up when it matters most. And frankly, the Chiefs don't have anyone else on the edge that can bring what Clark can right now.

[Megatron96]

The Shark is going to gorge on Brady's ass in a feeding frenzy. mark it down.

[ThaVirus]

"I truly believe if you're a champion at heart... you're going to turn that fire on when it matters"

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/02/frank-clark-if-youre-a-champion-at-heart-you-turn-the-fire-on-when-it-matters/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[smithandrew051]

Best postseason defensive player in franchise history??

[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is so good that he made everyone forget that the Chiefs front office cut Justin Houston so they could trade a first round pick for a more expensive replacement, only for the replacement to be worse than Houston has been the last two years</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1357302571329851393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[R Clark]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is so good that he made everyone forget that the Chiefs front office cut Justin Houston so they could trade a first round pick for a more expensive replacement, only for the replacement to be worse than Houston has been the last two years</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1357302571329851393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This asshole left out the part about Houston’s injuries,I think clark has had some but played through them. Has clark missed a game since he’s been in kc?

[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Houston w/Colts: 33 games, 19.5 sacks, 30 QB hits<br><br>Frank Clark w/Chiefs: 34 games, 21 sacks, 38 QB hits<br><br>Pound sand, Mike. <a href="https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM">https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM</a></p>&mdash; 114 Sent (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1357346682170613764?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is so good that he made everyone forget that the Chiefs front office cut Justin Houston so they could trade a first round pick for a more expensive replacement, only for the replacement to be worse than Houston has been the last two years</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1357302571329851393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a fucking idiot.

[louie aguiar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is so good that he made everyone forget that the Chiefs front office cut Justin Houston so they could trade a first round pick for a more expensive replacement, only for the replacement to be worse than Houston has been the last two years</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1357302571329851393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Justin Houston never showed up in playoff games. Frank has had some of his best performances in playoff games.

[joethomas]

It's funny that some people question Frank Clark's heart and commitment while lauding Justin Houston.

I think it was one of the Athletic guys who said that when asked about Houston's departure, what he would hear was that they needed guys who were committed and were leaders and were bought into the team culture, things like that. It doesn't seem like Houston's departure was a surprise and the defense is much better than it was the last time Houston was here. And specifically about this team needing to take a step on D in 2018 and not being able to do it, he was invisible in that Patriots game when just a little more would have put us over the top. Good for him for becoming a productive player again but we couldn't even find anyone who'd give up anything for him in trade after that season.

If we need a defensive stop in the 4th quarter on Sunday to seal or save the game, and you give me a choice of who might make a big play, I am taking Clark 10 times out of 10

[CasselGotPeedOn]

PFF writer is a retard? I'm shocked y'all.

[-King-]

Justin Houston never showed up in playoff games. Frank has had some of his best performances in playoff games.

He had a sack in the titans game and 2 in the Indy game.

[htismaqe]

Justin Houston in KC:

1 AFCCG, 0 Super Bowls

Frank Clark in KC:

2 AFCCG, 2 Super Bowls

[-King-]

Justin Houston in KC:

1 AFCCG, 0 Super Bowls

Frank Clark in KC:

2 AFCCG, 2 Super Bowls

That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.

[-King-]

Btw, before Staylor comes in here pumped full of Mountain Dew energy, me talking up Houston has nothing to do with Clark right now. Clark played great in the AFCCG.

[Red Dawg]

PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.

[Hammock Parties]

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.

Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.

[smithandrew051]

Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.

His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.

[-King-]

Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.

I agree. He had a bad game. He's sacked Brady 4 in 3 other games though.

[KChiefs1]

His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.

The entire defense was pretty bad that day. That's why Spags is here now. :thumb:

[htismaqe]

That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.

It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.

[Marcellus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark turns it up in the playoffs...<br><br>Stats Past 2 Postseasons - (NFL Rank)<br><br>7 Sacks (1st) <br>8 TFL (1st)<br>21 Pressures (2nd) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/MeRPaGgRIo">pic.twitter.com/MeRPaGgRIo</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1357166892251815938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Megatron96]

I don't have any hate for Houston. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the weeks before the Clark trade was announced, I advocated for possibly keeping him.

But his performance in the playoffs historically wasn't great. You could even say that he was largely invisible for the most part. How much of that was him, and how much of that was Sutton's scheme/inability to make in-game adjustments, or even to use Houston better than he did are all matters that could be up for debate. But the bottom line is Houston wasn't a playoff game performer during his time with KC.

Frank Clark has played really big in the playoffs, and seemingly bigger when the lights were brightest and on the biggest stages. Clark is a winner, period.

[Willie Lanier]

PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.

Without a doubt, can we just kill this fucking narrative?
Who spends this much time trying to find cracks in their own foundation of talent?

Get a fucking life

[-King-]

It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.

Using team success to measure the difference the player is disingenuous. Ben Neimann has more AFCCG and superbowl wins than Derrick Johnson. What does that mean?

I think Clark has been better than Houston in the playoffs, but using team wins as a way of proving that is dumb.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark turns it up in the playoffs...<br><br>Stats Past 2 Postseasons - (NFL Rank)<br><br>7 Sacks (1st) <br>8 TFL (1st)<br>21 Pressures (2nd) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/MeRPaGgRIo">pic.twitter.com/MeRPaGgRIo</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1357166892251815938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is all that matters and all that needs to be said.

[ThaVirus]

He had a sack in the titans game and 2 in the Indy game.

Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Houston w/Colts: 33 games, 19.5 sacks, 30 QB hits<br><br>Frank Clark w/Chiefs: 34 games, 21 sacks, 38 QB hits<br><br>Pound sand, Mike. <a href="https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM">https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM</a></p>&mdash; 114 Sent (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1357346682170613764?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.

[The Franchise]

Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.



You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.

So it doesn’t matter if it’s just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.

[staylor26]

Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.



You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.

LMAO

[CasselGotPeedOn]

So it doesn’t matter if it’s just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.

And apparently include almost stats for Houston.

[mililo4cpa]

I don't have any hate for Houston. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the weeks before the Clark trade was announced, I advocated for possibly keeping him.

But his performance in the playoffs historically wasn't great. You could even say that he was largely invisible for the most part. How much of that was him, and how much of that was Sutton's scheme/inability to make in-game adjustments, or even to use Houston better than he did are all matters that could be up for debate. But the bottom line is Houston wasn't a playoff game performer during his time with KC.

Frank Clark has played really big in the playoffs, and seemingly bigger when the lights were brightest and on the biggest stages. Clark is a winner, period.


I agree with this, and would add that Houston always had another bookend to help out as well.....Dee Ford, Tamba Hali.....

Heck, in the 2018 AFCCG, Houston had both Ford and Jones taking pressure off of him....and still couldn't do anything...

Who has Clark had in his playoff? Jones of course, but KPass and Okafor don't command double teams.....yet Clark delivers.

[Megatron96]

Without a doubt, can we just kill this fucking narrative?
Who spends this much time trying to find cracks in their own foundation of talent?

Get a fucking life

Fans still suffering from playoff PTSD.:thumb:

It's idiotic, but I guess it's to be expected from some people of this fanbase. It's actually kind of funny when you think about it. We have a winning team, a SB winning team with probably a few more SB appearances ahead of us, and some people just can't let the past go. I actually feel kind of sorry for them. Instead of seeing the positives, they can only wallow in the negatives, and even have to have those negatives, like a security blanket or like a baby sucking their thumbs. Without it, they start caterwauling.

I honestly hope they find their way out of it.

[-King-]

I agree with this, and would add that Houston always had another bookend to help out as well.....Dee Ford, Tamba Hali.....

Heck, in the 2018 AFCCG, Houston had both Ford and Jones taking pressure off of him....and still couldn't do anything...

Who has Clark had in his playoff? Jones of course, but KPass and Okafor don't command double teams.....yet Clark delivers.

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.

[The Franchise]

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.

Because Clark did it in every playoff game the year before.

[staylor26]

Because Clark did it in every playoff game the year before.

Exactly.

[htismaqe]

Using team success to measure the difference the player is disingenuous. Ben Neimann has more AFCCG and superbowl wins than Derrick Johnson. What does that mean?

I think Clark has been better than Houston in the playoffs, but using team wins as a way of proving that is dumb.

All of these arguments are dumb.

Clark is here, Houston isn't.

There's no reason to even discuss it.

[The Franchise]

Houston had his opportunity to stay for less money. He chose not to. Fuck him. He’s gone.

[ThaVirus]

So it doesn’t matter if it’s just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.

Most stats need context.

The stats posted show they're actually pretty similar. One plays on a decent team whose strength is the defense, the other is playing on a squad with one of the best offenses of all time. Clark has more favorable opportunities to rack up pass rushing stats, yet overall their numbers aren't all that different.

And apparently include almost stats for Houston.

Houston scooped up that fumble. He made that play, which would have been a big one. He was just unlucky enough to be fucked over by one of the worst calls in NFL history.

[-King-]

Because Clark did it in every playoff game the year before.

I agree. But Houston had 3 sacks in his last 3 playoff games with us. That doesn't count for anything? He had 1 bad game in his last 4 playoff opportunities with us.

[The Franchise]

Hey guys....Tyreek Hill’s stats aren’t that impressive. I mean he plays on a team with a high powered offense and a future HOF at QB. That how that works?

[The Franchise]

I agree. But Houston had 3 sacks in his last 3 playoff games with us. That doesn't count for anything? He had 1 bad game in his last 4 playoff opportunities with us.

Never said it didn’t count. I’ve said my piece about him. He had his chance to stay and he chose not to. That’s all that matters.

[htismaqe]

Never said it didn’t count. I’ve said my piece about him. He had his chance to stay and he chose not to. That’s all that matters.

This.

[-King-]

Never said it didn’t count. I’ve said my piece about him. He had his chance to stay and he chose not to. That’s all that matters.

I fully agree. He should have taken that pay cut. Bet he regrets it now.

[The Franchise]

I fully agree. He should have taken that pay cut. Bet he regrets it now.

I’m not sure he would fit in with this defense. Schematically? Yes. But I could see him and Mathieu butting heads. Clark and Mathieu fit perfectly together.

[Hoover]

I'll be honest, I haven't missed Justin Houston once since he left. I like the guy, but this defensive unit is 10x what we had in 2018. I mean its not even close.

[ThaVirus]

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.

It's about opportunity.

Had we had a Dee Ford situation against the Browns and got knocked out of contention, Clark would never have had the opportunity to come back and have a monster game the next week against the Bills.

If Dee Ford lines up correctly or our trash DBs were able to make any one of three stops on 3rd and long, who knows what Houston would have done in the Super Bowl against the Rams? In our matchup against them earlier in the year, Houston had 2 sacks, one of which went for what should have been the game-winning TD late in the 4th quarter.

Hey guys....Tyreek Hill’s stats aren’t that impressive. I mean he plays on a team with a high powered offense and a future HOF at QB. That how that works?

Tyreek put up elite numbers, which is always impressive.

But trying to compare in a vacuum is bullshit because football isn't played in a vacuum. Do you not agree that Hill putting up this exact same stat line with Gardner Minshew throwing to him as opposed to Patrick Mahomes would have been more impressive?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.Is that true? I don't remember him having a bad game at all. The Browns are a running team and stopping the run was paramount. While we didn't fully shut them down, we did pretty well stopping the run.

[Megatron96]

Is that true? I don't remember him having a bad game at all. The Browns are a running team and stopping the run was paramount. While we didn't fully shut them down, we did pretty well stopping the run.

No it’s not true.

[mililo4cpa]

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.

Why do people want to take Houston's one exception to the general rule that he disappears in the playoffs and compare that against Frank Clark's one exception to the general rule that he shows up big in big games?

EDIT: and the "one" Clark example is a weak one at best.....he actually played well in the Browns game

[ToxSocks]

Is that true? I don't remember him having a bad game at all.

Frank Clark doesn't have bad games. He doesn't usually have big splashy games either. But i can't recall ever saying to myself, "damn that was a bad game by Clark".

[-King-]

Why do people want to take Houston's one exception to the general rule that he disappears in the playoffs and compare that against Frank Clark's one exception to the general rule that he shows up big in big games?

EDIT: and the "one" Clark example is a weak one at best.....he actually played well in the Browns game

Houston had had 1 bad game in his last 5 playoff games.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

You absolutely have to put into perspective the value his locker room presence provides. Their stats are close enough to be considered a toss-up but given Clark’s youth and overall leadership qualities, there really isn’t much discussion to be had.

The Houston/Berry defense was talented but the mentality simply wasn’t SB caliber. Now it is, and Clark is a big reason for it.

[Hammock Parties]

Historical allegory for Clark:

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/cowboys/yk98swyb7kuhrttdf0ub

Cowboys defense was light years better when he arrived. Wrecked shit in the playoffs. Three rings.

Cowboys traded a 2nd and 3rd to get him, and he also signed a 3-year, $12 million contract in 1995 (this was back when QBs like Troy Aikman were making less than $10 million a year).

Haley had TEN SACKS in his first two years in Dallas. TOTAL.

Regular season stats are for losers.

[Easy 6]

You absolutely have to put into perspective the value his locker room presence provides. Their stats are close enough to be considered a toss-up but given Clark’s youth and overall leadership qualities, there really isn’t much discussion to be had.

The Houston/Berry defense was talented but the mentality simply wasn’t SB caliber. Now it is, and Clark is a big reason for it.

This

[-King-]

You absolutely have to put into perspective the value his locker room presence provides. Their stats are close enough to be considered a toss-up but given Clark’s youth and overall leadership qualities, there really isn’t much discussion to be had.

The Houston/Berry defense was talented but the mentality simply wasn’t SB caliber. Now it is, and Clark is a big reason for it.

We lost multiple playoff games in which we allowed less than 20 points. Berry and Houston's defenses weren't the problems LMAO

[Megatron96]

I agree. But Houston had 3 sacks in his last 3 playoff games with us. That doesn't count for anything? He had 1 bad game in his last 4 playoff opportunities with us.

I don't know. Were they all coverage sacks? Apparently that makes all the difference.

[PAChiefsGuy]

You absolutely have to put into perspective the value his locker room presence provides. Their stats are close enough to be considered a toss-up but given Clark’s youth and overall leadership qualities, there really isn’t much discussion to be had.

The Houston/Berry defense was talented but the mentality simply wasn’t SB caliber. Now it is, and Clark is a big reason for it.

Clark and Honey Badger def brought a much needed attitude change when they were brought here. Ford was soft, horrible against the run and cost us a SB appearance w that stupid penalty. I understand why Chiefs moved on.

That said, Clark is nothing special and his contract pays him like he is. He is good against the run and a solid overall but he doesn't do anything great. You can say stats don't tell the whole story which is true but what is he doing that is so great that stats don't show? Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see it.

If Chiefs released him tomorrow you think another team would sign him to contract we did? Come on..

He's just not worth his contract. Plain and simple. You could argue 'hey we are winning with him so he is worth it!' Sign another guy half his price to show up just in the playoffs and trash talk we would still be winning. He's a role played being paid like a superstar.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Frank Clark is a stud. His intangibles as a tone setter and leader go much unnoticed. HB, Stone Cold, and The Shark are always in the oppositions' heads.

[Hammock Parties]

Frank looking fat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cxWQlXEAUK8y_?format=jpg&name=large

[Sorce]

Frank looking fat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cxWQlXEAUK8y_?format=jpg&name=large

Shhhh... you wanna get shot?

[Wallcrawler]

Clark and Honey Badger def brought a much needed attitude change when they were brought here. Ford was soft, horrible against the run and cost us a SB appearance w that stupid penalty. I understand why Chiefs moved on.

That said, Clark is nothing special and his contract pays him like he is. He is good against the run and a solid overall but he doesn't do anything great. You can say stats don't tell the whole story which is true but what is he doing that is so great that stats don't show? Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see it.

If Chiefs released him tomorrow you think another team would sign him to contract we did? Come on..

He's just not worth his contract. Plain and simple. You could argue 'hey we are winning with him so he is worth it!' Sign another guy half his price to show up just in the playoffs and trash talk we would still be winning. He's a role played being paid like a superstar.

The Kansas City Chiefs won a superbowl championship due to a culture change on defense that largely involved Frank Clark.

I addition to "being good against the run and solid overall" (which by the way, we were not even close to being before at his position), he brings an element of swagger to the field.

Closed out each playoff game with a sack, taljed mad shit on Derrick Henry before helping hokd him to 67 yards, and continued talking mad shit on defense in the superbowl against the Niners after Patricks late interception.

D could EASILY have gone in the tank, and instead, He's running his mouth "Yall asses are going home.". Defense was HUGE late in that game making big stops so Pat could do his hero thing.

Frank Clark is worth every fucking penny we paid him. That title is priceless.

We've been to back to back superbowls and won one, something a lot of members and friends here died never getting to see.

Worth every penny, even if he never plays another down.

[Hammock Parties]

Shhhh... you wanna get shot?

If Frank gets 12+ sacks I'll shoot myself.

[penguinz]

If Frank gets 12+ sacks I'll shoot myself.

Another bet you will welch on.

[dannybcaitlyn]

Maybe his stomach issues improved.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

The Kansas City Chiefs won a superbowl championship due to a culture change on defense that largely involved Frank Clark.

I addition to "being good against the run and solid overall" (which by the way, we were not even close to being before at his position), he brings an element of swagger to the field.

Closed out each playoff game with a sack, taljed mad shit on Derrick Henry before helping hokd him to 67 yards, and continued talking mad shit on defense in the superbowl against the Niners after Patricks late interception.

D could EASILY have gone in the tank, and instead, He's running his mouth "Yall asses are going home.". Defense was HUGE late in that game making big stops so Pat could do his hero thing.

Frank Clark is worth every ****ing penny we paid him. That title is priceless.

We've been to back to back superbowls and won one, something a lot of members and friends here died never getting to see.

Worth every penny, even if he never plays another down.

1000% this.

I'm disappointed with how this is going to end obviously, but we don't win that Super Bowl without him. We just absolutely don't.

I'll pay $100 million of Hunt's money for that win any day of the week.

[New World Order]

I think we may have won it without Clark

I don't think we win it without Jones or Sammy.

Sammy was our leading postseason receiver in both 2018 and 2019 iirc and Jones had so many huge plays in the SB, including forcing the pressure that gave Breeland the INT and multiple pass bat downs in the 4th.

[BossChief]

If Frank gets 12+ sacks I'll shoot myself.

I think that may end up being a very silly post.

Clark
Reed
Wharton/Nnadi
Jones

That’s an elite DL that won’t be able to do anything to single anyone out and I think Frank will produce a lot more this year than in the 2 previous years. Teams will slide protections away from Frank trying to slow down Reed and Jones so Frank will have more opportunities to rush the passer against an “honest” OL.

[Hammock Parties]

Clark is fat, though. His body looked done last year.

He's given up IMO.

[BossChief]

I think the odds are stacked your favor for him not getting 12 sacks but I’m pretty confident he will get there, tbh.

I’d be interested in making another friendly wager on that, if you’d like.

I’d be going for the hat trick after the McCluster bet and the bet with Alex winning a playoff game…

Pm me if interested or rep this post so I can remember to check later on

[PAChiefsGuy]

Clark is fat, though. His body looked done last year.

He's given up IMO.

He got paid, he got a ring. He probably isn't very motivated anymore. He's just a fat trash talker now.

[ToxSocks]

I’d be interested in making another friendly wager on that, if you’d like.



Why make a bet with a known welcher?

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[ThyKingdomCome15]

I read a report Chris Jones gave him his weight. The idea is Clark is saving up for when he gets sick in December with that stomach thing he has. So it'll all balance out in time for the Playoffs. To the SHIP!!

[penguinz]

Frank looking fat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cxWQlXEAUK8y_?format=jpg&name=large

We have seen you attempt a hill sprint. You are about as far from being able to comment on someone’s physical fitness as one could be.

[Hammock Parties]

That's irrelevant.

Frank needed to report to camp in the best shape of his life after last year.

Very disappointing.

[staylor26]

That's irrelevant.

Frank needed to report to camp in the best shape of his life after last year.

Very disappointing.

You’re so fucking stupid.

I’ve seen countless videos and photos of Frank so far in TC, and he doesn’t look the least bit fat.

His face looks fat in that one picture. Not even his body. Who gives a fuck?

[Hammock Parties]

I’ve seen countless videos and photos of Frank so far in TC, and he doesn’t look the least bit fat.


I'm waiting for the evidence.

[Hammock Parties]

Definitely looking chub.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_new_photo_album_2x/f_auto/chiefs/xwno92rtmywi70y4ds3s.jpg

[staylor26]

https://i.imgur.com/e5onITK.jpg

[staylor26]

https://i.imgur.com/LNGwfWN.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

i def see a nice gut there - i bet he's soft

[penguinz]

i def see a nice gut there - i bet he's soft

Your and idiot

[Titty Meat]

We have seen you attempt a hill sprint. You are about as far from being able to comment on someone’s physical fitness as one could be.

Show respect our boy is pounding now. He doesnt give AF about this boards opinion about an overpaid defensive end.

[kcclone]

That's irrelevant.

Frank needed to report to camp in the best shape of his life after last year.

Very disappointing.

He looked skinny AF last year and sucked so I’m fine with him trying something new.

Also, I think it’s been reported that he has some bowel disease which when it flairs up, he loses weight.

[BossChief]

Why make a bet with a known welcher?

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He’s held up his end of the deal every time we’ve made a wager.

[dlphg9]

BossChief I'll do a monetary bet with you that Frank doesn't get to 12 sacks. Hell I'll bet every single cent I have that he doesn't get 12 sacks. I wouldn't be surprised if he only has half of that. He fucking sucks.

[Halfcan]

^ Roots against Chiefs players we are counting on to have a big year.

[BossChief]

BossChief I'll do a monetary bet with you that Frank doesn't get to 12 sacks. Hell I'll bet every single cent I have that he doesn't get 12 sacks. I wouldn't be surprised if he only has half of that. He fucking sucks.

If I knew you in rl and I get the right odds, I’d definitely make a bet with you.

[BossChief]

^ Roots against Chiefs players we are counting on to have a big year.

I don’t think that’s the case.

I just think most think it’s highly unlikely Frank gets 12 sacks but I see lots of motivating factors why he very well might.

1) I think the addition of Reed as well as bringing Taco back will make Frank step up his game because he has something to prove to both of them.

2) I think he’s as healthy as he’s been since his run of the second half of 2018.

3) Frank has financial incentives to return to top form.

4) he won’t be one of the focal points of the DL…all 4 guys can play at an elite level so no more sliding protections to his side and/or chips to work through. He should be able to “beat man get ball” a lot more snd that’s his strength.


I see a lot of things playing into the possibility of a 12-15 sack year if he’s able to stay healthy.

[Fat Elvis]

Definitely looking chub.

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FYP

[Hammock Parties]

That was two fucking years ago you dick.

[Titty Meat]

FYP

You are mad he cums more than you

[TwistedChief]

I’ll guarantee any Clay bet about Frank Clark’s getting 12 sacks and I’ll relish the thought of being wrong and needing to bail out Hammock.

[suzzer99]

My theory has always been that Clark was juicing hard in Seattle, then stopped when he got paid. But being as this is a contract year for him, maybe he'd risk it again. (Moon face is a big sign of the juice btw)

[Sorter]

He'll be replaced next year.

[Hammock Parties]

My theory has always been that Clark was juicing hard in Seattle, then stopped when he got paid. But being as this is a contract year for him, maybe he'd risk it again. (Moon face is a big sign of the juice btw)

Do players really get away with this?

[BossChief]

My theory has always been that Clark was juicing hard in Seattle, then stopped when he got paid. But being as this is a contract year for him, maybe he'd risk it again. (Moon face is a big sign of the juice btw)

In no way shape or form does Frank Clark look like a guy that’s juiced up and never has.

[Hammock Parties]

He looks like total shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lucas Niang &amp; Frank Clark. <a href="https://t.co/q4p3xauYCO">pic.twitter.com/q4p3xauYCO</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1423308845196120080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our fav part of padded practices, featuring one-on-ones between OL and DL. Here’s Frank Clark vs. Orlando Brown. <a href="https://t.co/sf7VHEEI6w">pic.twitter.com/sf7VHEEI6w</a></p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1424757209355984907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some Orlando Brown v Frank Clark <a href="https://t.co/D4ostb0zsi">pic.twitter.com/D4ostb0zsi</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1423312824810577925?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Titty Meat]

He looks like total shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lucas Niang &amp; Frank Clark. <a href="https://t.co/q4p3xauYCO">pic.twitter.com/q4p3xauYCO</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1423308845196120080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our fav part of padded practices, featuring one-on-ones between OL and DL. Here’s Frank Clark vs. Orlando Brown. <a href="https://t.co/sf7VHEEI6w">pic.twitter.com/sf7VHEEI6w</a></p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1424757209355984907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some Orlando Brown v Frank Clark <a href="https://t.co/D4ostb0zsi">pic.twitter.com/D4ostb0zsi</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1423312824810577925?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nah he looks like hes going about half speed like hes working on something. Brown looks pretty good in those like an absolute unit who has some good foot work. I wouldnt put much stock into those videos either way.

[Bump]

well that should certainly make you feel good about the o-line at least.

[Bump]

My take away from those videos are that not even the great Frank Clark can penetrate our new badass offensive line.

[OKchiefs]

Frank looking fat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cxWQlXEAUK8y_?format=jpg&name=large

Coming from the fattest fucking loser on this site.

I don’t know why I’m defending Clark, don’t particularly care for him, but sit the fuck down.

[suzzer99]

In no way shape or form does Frank Clark look like a guy that’s juiced up and never has.

They don't juice out of control like Barry Bonds anymore. But players still get caught all the time. I bet plenty more are sneaking it in here and there, pushing the envelope, hoping to not get caught.

I've done testosterone. My face gets puffy as hell. If his body doesn't look fatter but his face does - that's a pretty strong sign.

Clay - got any fat body pics?

[Megatron96]

Clark has averaged 9.5 sacks/season for his entire career.

He is not, and never has been, a sack artist. Yeesh.

[Bill Brasky]

You do a cycle before camp starts. Not 2 days before preseason starts…

[dlphg9]

^ Roots against Chiefs players we are counting on to have a big year.

How is saying he sucks rooting against him and outside of his first year, who the hell has been counting on Frank Clark to have a big year?

There's been 2 Chiefs players I've actively rooted against

Matt Cassel
Alex Smith

And I damn sure never counted on them to have big seasons or lead us to success.

[KCUnited]

Nah he looks like hes going about half speed like hes working on something. Brown looks pretty good in those like an absolute unit who has some good foot work. I wouldnt put much stock into those videos either way.

Yep, looks like he's working on not getting run 10 yards up the field and out of the play. I'm staying hopeful.

[Hammock Parties]

Coming from the fattest fucking loser on this site.

I don’t know why I’m defending Clark, don’t particularly care for him, but sit the fuck down.

34-inch waist

stfu

[Aspengc8]

You do a cycle before camp starts. Not 2 days before preseason starts…

The guys that take stuff don't cycle, they are on and have been on since college. There are PED's that are in and out of your system in less than 24hrs, more than enough time since they get I believe a 1 or 2 day notice to be at the facility on X date for testing. They run maintenance dosages during the season and blast during the off.

[JPH83]

Think he sucks, and think he's a non-entity in terms of bringing consistent pressure to QBs. I doubt there's anyone who won't be glad to see the back of that contract which says something. Glad he stepped up in the playoffs, good luck to him when he goes.

Also not that bothered. Jones is going to give OLs fits going across the line and finding the weak links. Reckon between him at DE and Charlton and Danna stepping up Clark's snaps will reduce and we'll be none the worse for it. Best case scenario in a contract year and with Reed and others giving him better opportunities, he steps up. Worst case he's still shit and we're still better.

[dlphg9]

The guys that take stuff don't cycle, they are on and have been on since college. There are PED's that are in and out of your system in less than 24hrs, more than enough time since they get I believe a 1 or 2 day notice to be at the facility on X date for testing. They run maintenance dosages during the season and blast during the off.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't cycling usually in reference to anabolic steroids? The reason I ask is because there aren't any anabolic steroids that are only in a person's system for 24 hrs. It takes at least a few days for the body to filter those out.

[TwistedChief]

Think he sucks, and think he's a non-entity in terms of bringing consistent pressure to QBs. I doubt there's anyone who won't be glad to see the back of that contract which says something. Glad he stepped up in the playoffs, good luck to him when he goes.

Also not that bothered. Jones is going to give OLs fits going across the line and finding the weak links. Reckon between him at DE and Charlton and Danna stepping up Clark's snaps will reduce and we'll be none the worse for it. Best case scenario in a contract year and with Reed and others giving him better opportunities, he steps up. Worst case he's still shit and we're still better.

Your posts have been good so far. Welcome to CP.

[Halfcan]

How is saying he sucks rooting against him and outside of his first year, who the hell has been counting on Frank Clark to have a big year?

There's been 2 Chiefs players I've actively rooted against

Matt Cassel
Alex Smith

And I damn sure never counted on them to have big seasons or lead us to success.

So betting every penny you have against Frank having a good year- is Not rooting against him?

Chiefs are counting on him to have a good year, so that is all that really matters.

[RealSNR]

34-inch waist

stfu

Daaaaamn u sexy

[dlphg9]

So betting every penny you have against Frank having a good year- is Not rooting against him?

Chiefs are counting on him to have a good year, so that is all that really matters.

Betting against something isn't even remotely the same thing as rooting against.

That reasoning doesn't even make sense. I'd bet everything I own that my kid doesn't become president of the US. That doesn't mean I'm rooting against her. Itd be an easy bet to double my money. Betting everything I own that Frank Clark doesnt get 12 sacks is also an easy way to double my money. Doesn't mean I'm rooting against them.

[kccrow]

Betting against something isn't even remotely the same thing as rooting against.

That reasoning doesn't even make sense. I'd bet everything I own that my kid doesn't become president of the US. That doesn't mean I'm rooting against her. Itd be an easy bet to double my money. Betting everything I own that Frank Clark doesnt get 12 sacks is also an easy way to double my money. Doesn't mean I'm rooting against them.

Even when, really, you're betting that you'll double your money for your grandkids? :)

I agree though, Frank Clark getting 12 sacks is highly unlikely based upon recent performance.

[JPH83]

Your posts have been good so far. Welcome to CP.

I'm probably full of shit, but cheers.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Even when, really, you're betting that you'll double your money for your grandkids? :)

I agree though, Frank Clark getting 12 sacks is highly unlikely based upon recent performance.

He isn't getting 12. He'll be lucky to get 10. Also 90% of his sacks are coverage sacks anyway.

Dudes a role player getting paid like a superstar sucks but hey least we got a solid playoff run out of him year Chiefs won SB.

[Coogs]

Betting against something isn't even remotely the same thing as rooting against.

That reasoning doesn't even make sense. I'd bet everything I own that my kid doesn't become president of the US. That doesn't mean I'm rooting against her. Itd be an easy bet to double my money. Betting everything I own that Frank Clark doesnt get 12 sacks is also an easy way to double my money. Doesn't mean I'm rooting against them.

If you bet everything you own against Clark getting 12 sacks, and he has 11 going into the last couple of games...

I'm thinking you are going to be rooting against Clark to get number 12.

[Dunerdr]

I dont get the Clark weight thing. He gets sick and loses a shit load at some point every season. He better be eating his ass off.

[dlphg9]

If you bet everything you own against Clark getting 12 sacks, and he has 11 going into the last couple of games...

I'm thinking you are going to be rooting against Clark to get number 12.

Yeah at that point I would 100% be rooting against him, but that's a hypothetical.

"Going to be rooting against" does not mean that I am actively rooting against at this moment. Dumb shit was saying that since I said I'd bet everything I own that he wouldn't do something, then I was rooting against him. It doesn't even make sense and I'm sure he knows it, but it's a message board and he's a dumb shit, so he's doubling down.

[dlphg9]

He better be eating his ass off.

Don't worry, if he doesn't, then I'm sure Billay will do it for him.

[Chiefspants]

Clark also had a solid playoff run last year. He singlehandedly ended the Browns last chance drive in the 4th quarter where they were looking to take the lead and had a big game against Buffalo. He had a sack against the Bucs, and yeah, he disappeared after, but had we won he likely would be getting as much kudos for the 2021 postseason as he did in 2020.

I also think he should be cut this year if he doesn't bounce back, FTR.

[Halfcan]

Yeah at that point I would 100% be rooting against him, but that's a hypothetical.

"Going to be rooting against" does not mean that I am actively rooting against at this moment. Dumb shit was saying that since I said I'd bet everything I own that he wouldn't do something, then I was rooting against him. It doesn't even make sense and I'm sure he knows it, but it's a message board and he's a dumb shit, so he's doubling down.

You are the idiot saying you would bet your entire life savings on a football player's sack total and you're calling me a dumb shit? Yeah okay, dude- DO IT!!

Make the bet with an Online outfit and post it. Put your money where your fat mouth is.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Clark also had a solid playoff run last year. He singlehandedly ended the Browns last chance drive in the 4th quarter where they were looking to take the lead and had a big game against Buffalo. He had a sack against the Bucs, and yeah, he disappeared after, but had we won he likely would be getting as much kudos for the 2021 postseason as he did in 2020.

I also think he should be cut this year if he doesn't bounce back, FTR.

Yeah he's great. Can't wait till Chiefs sign him to a huge extension. He was completely dominant in last years playoffs.

[wazu]

Clark also had a solid playoff run last year. He singlehandedly ended the Browns last chance drive in the 4th quarter where they were looking to take the lead and had a big game against Buffalo. He had a sack against the Bucs, and yeah, he disappeared after, but had we won he likely would be getting as much kudos for the 2021 postseason as he did in 2020.

I also think he should be cut this year if he doesn't bounce back, FTR.

Haven't been able to go back until now, but maybe I'll need to re-watch Browns and Bills games. Playoff performance has become damn near all that matters to me. I more or less assume we'll play well enough as a team in the regular season to get there. I want guys that can hit another gear and win the games that matter. Frank Clark has been a contributor in the post-season, and was a strong player in the championship playoff run. Doesn't mean he doesn't get cut after this year, but it does mean he leaves a legacy as a championship player for my favorite team.

[dlphg9]

You are the idiot saying you would bet your entire life savings on a football player's sack total and you're calling me a dumb shit? Yeah okay, dude- DO IT!!

Make the bet with an Online outfit and post it. Put your money where your fat mouth is.

Lmao, yeah itd be a terrible bet to bet against a guy that's only had 12 or more sacks 1 time. A guy that barely had half of the total in 15 games last year and is hurt now.

Find me a fucking place that I could make that bet and I will. You could search the whole god damn internet and not find a sportsbook that's anywhere near an over/under of 12 sacks for Frank Clark.

You are 100% a dumb shit.

[Halfcan]

Lmao, yeah itd be a terrible bet to bet against a guy that's only had 12 or more sacks 1 time. A guy that barely had half of the total in 15 games last year and is hurt now.

Find me a ****ing place that I could make that bet and I will. You could search the whole god damn internet and not find a sportsbook that's anywhere near an over/under of 12 sacks for Frank Clark.

You are 100% a dumb shit.

Why would I have to find You a place to bet so you can wager your life's savings? You are the idiot spouting off with this nonsense. I made one comment and now you have your panties in a bunch over it. Go put your money up or shut the fuck up about it. :doh!:

Once you do- you will be rooting against Frank big time so you will win- My initial point exactly, before you started crying like a bitch.

[Chiefspants]

Yeah he's great. Can't wait till Chiefs sign him to a huge extension. He was completely dominant in last years playoffs.

I also think he should be cut this year if he doesn't bounce back, FTR.


I bolded the part you missed to help you out, partner.

[dlphg9]

Why would I have to find You a place to bet so you can wager your life's savings? You are the idiot spouting off with this nonsense. I made one comment and now you have your panties in a bunch over it. Go put your money up or shut the **** up about it. :doh!:

Once you do- you will be rooting against Frank big time so you will win- My initial point exactly, before you started crying like a bitch.

Are you really dumb enough to think there is any place that I could actually get those odds? I don't have my panties in a bunch. You made a stupid comment and I replied. That's how discussions work you brain dead sister ****er.

[PAChiefsGuy]

I also think he should be cut this year if he doesn't bounce back, FTR.


I bolded the part you missed to help you out, partner.

He's not 'bouncing back' he is who he is..

[Chris Meck]

Well, I would point out that Reed and Clark had their best seasons together. Just saying. If it CAN happen, it will. But I think something is physically wrong with Clark.

[dlphg9]

Well, I would point out that Reed and Clark had their best seasons together. Just saying. If it CAN happen, it will. But I think something is physically wrong with Clark.

Frank Clark isn't even remotely close to the same player he was before he came here. We get that Frank and this thread is probably still made(it was like week 2 lol), but it damn sure wouldn't see the front page after a week or 2.

[-King-]

Why didn't he play yesterday?

[Red Dawg]

Unless Clark comes super cheap he will not be staying. Mahomes LT will need money and it would be nice to keep Honey B.

This is the last year for Clark most likely.

[Chris Meck]

Unless Clark comes super cheap he will not be staying. Mahomes LT will need money and it would be nice to keep Honey B.

This is the last year for Clark most likely.

of course.

I still think there's something wrong with him. He's not the same player.

[Red Dawg]

Next year I believe Hill is in a contract year. Mahomes won't let him walk either and Hill I'm sure will want to stay. He will also need money.

[R Clark]

of course.

I still think there's something wrong with him. He's not the same player.

I agree so why did he not suit up last night?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I agree so why did he not suit up last night?

Hamstring flare up in practice on Thursday

[BWillie]

Frank Clark was, and always will be overrated. It doesn't mean he's not useful. It doesn't mean he didnt help us win a Super Bowl. But the fact remains.

[Sorce]

Broke dick is broke.

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[-King-]

No one even cares that he just injured his hamstring. I think that really shows where everybody is at with him.

[ToxSocks]

No one even cares that he just injured his hamstring. I think that really shows where everybody is at with him.

Well no one knows the severity of the injury. His "limp" was pretty minor if at all, and he did walk off on his own power.

And he is a DE afterall, not sure that a hammy strain would even keep him out much considering the position he plays.

Doesn't seem like there's much to be concerned about yet.

[Red Dawg]

Is Clark now the most hated Chief? Kizer is gone and we are done with him. No more love at all.

[ToxSocks]

Is Clark now the most hated Chief? Kizer is gone and we are done with him. No more love at all.

How you gonna hate on a man who played such a key role in our 2019 SB run? Much like Sammy Watkins, he'll always be coo' in my book, no matter how his time with us ends.

[Sassy Squatch]

Is Clark now the most hated Chief? Kizer is gone and we are done with him. No more love at all.
Not as long as Wylies faggot ass is around.

[Red Dawg]

How you gonna hate on a man who played such a key role in our 2019 SB run? Much like Sammy Watkins, he'll always be coo' in my book, no matter how his time with us ends.

I agree. I still think he offers something positive for the team. He is a big reason got a ring.

[smithandrew051]

Niemann?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

How you gonna hate on a man who played such a key role in our 2019 SB run? Much like Sammy Watkins, he'll always be coo' in my book, no matter how his time with us ends.

No shit. Freaking imbeciles

[PHOG]

Niemann?

NIEMANN!!!

[PAChiefsGuy]

How you gonna hate on a man who played such a key role in our 2019 SB run? Much like Sammy Watkins, he'll always be coo' in my book, no matter how his time with us ends.

It was one year/postseason. Not like the guy has bee. A lifelong Chief. Plus I am not big on sentiment. Sorry.

The bottom line is it is time to move on and guy is ridiculously overpaid.

[-King-]

How you gonna hate on a man who played such a key role in our 2019 SB run? Much like Sammy Watkins, he'll always be coo' in my book, no matter how his time with us ends.
NFL is a what have you don't for me lately league. You can appreciate what someone did in the past while resenting them for what they're doing lately. Especially when they're getting paid $25+ mil to do it.

[duncan_idaho]

It was one year/postseason. Not like the guy has bee. A lifelong Chief. Plus I am not big on sentiment. Sorry.

The bottom line is it is time to move on and guy is ridiculously overpaid.


Now is NOT the time to move.

Next offseason is the time to move on. And they will.

In the mean time, he has underperformed his deal in the regular season, for sure. He has been a playmaker in the postseason and was part of a culture/mindset change that was much needed.

[srvy]

Frank Clark was, and always will be overrated. It doesn't mean he's not useful. It doesn't mean he didnt help us win a Super Bowl. But the fact remains.

I doubt Spags agrees with you.

[srvy]

NIEMANN!!!

https://media4.giphy.com/media/eSMZFmPb6pbk4/giphy.gif

[JakeF]

I hope Tim Ward continues to be productive. We need him.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Now is NOT the time to move.

Next offseason is the time to move on. And they will.

In the mean time, he has underperformed his deal in the regular season, for sure. He has been a playmaker in the postseason and was part of a culture/mindset change that was much needed.

Right that's what I meant. After the season it is time to move on.. there is not much Chiefs can do at this point.

True w attitude change and playoff performance - the trade wasn't a total disaster.

[kcbubb]

Any news on Clark? Is he healthy?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/17/frank-clark-departs-practice-early-with-apparent-hamstring-injury/

[RealSNR]

Nobody cares. He's not important to us winning.

[JPH83]

Nobody cares. He's not important to us winning.

Agree. The only way he's a factor is if the extra motivation in a contract year leads to an uptick. Also think Jones, Danna, Reed and the others will give us more push than we had with him anyway.

Injured or not I can see his snaps reducing, maybe that helps too. Otherwise the positive is we have a big slab of money next year to share around to players that continue to perform, or FAs.

[JakeF]

Niemann?

It's time for him to be regulated to special teams only. We need to see some of our young bloods making plays at the LB position.

[TwistedChief]

Nobody cares. He's not important to us winning.

It's both oddly reassuring and disappointing that this is absolutely true about one of our most highly paid players.

[Chris Meck]

I'm pretty high on Ward, to be honest. So is the team if they cut Taco that early. Jonesy is looking like a DPOY candidate. Danna is solid. The interior of Nnadi, Reed, Wharton, and Saunders all look like good players. Kaindoh may contribute as the season goes on, but he's pretty raw. Still the talent is there.

I think we're in excellent shape.

[MIAdragon]

Can we add or change the thread title to “Frank Clark is fucking irrelevant”?