Frank Clark fucking sucks

[louie aguiar]

He really pissed away $1.25M by not showing up?!?

[BryanBusby]

Good. Fuck paying that bum anything extra.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Shoot, Frank could just show up and say he's sick and still make his money. This is really strange for a guy who's never going to make more than he's making now. Sheesh...

[dtrain]

Shoot, Frank could just show up and say he's sick and still make his money. This is really strange for a guy who's never going to make more than he's making now. Sheesh...

Might have been part of agreement

[Dunerdr]

You fucked us out of four games Frank. Don’t fucking show.

[RealSNR]

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[Red Dawg]

He's done. He doesn't care. This defense is going to be trash. We have no pash rush and too many rookies to be good.

[staylor26]

He's done. He doesn't care. This defense is going to be trash. We have no pash rush and too many rookies to be good.

Kill yourself.

[Buehler445]

Frank Clark has the highest workout bonus of any player in the league and is a no show for this week’s OTA’s.

Yes they are voluntary, but the Chiefs had 90%+ participation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 32 teams are now permitted to conduct their offseason workout programs. While the program is optional, many players around the league have financial incentive in the form of a workout bonus.<br><br>None more so than Chiefs DE Frank Clark, who has a league-high $1.25M workout bonus.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1516020853573627906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So does he forfeit the bonus? Or is that training camp?

[threebag]

I wish he’d just go serve some prison time.

[Coochie liquor]

He's done. He doesn't care. This defense is going to be trash. We have no pash rush and too many rookies to be good.

Every damn thread, c’mon man get a grip...

[New World Order]

He's done. He doesn't care. This defense is going to be trash. We have no pash rush and too many rookies to be good.

I was on board until I read the third sentence

[philfree]

Frank Clark has the highest workout bonus of any player in the league and is a no show for this week’s OTA’s.

Yes they are voluntary, but the Chiefs had 90%+ participation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 32 teams are now permitted to conduct their offseason workout programs. While the program is optional, many players around the league have financial incentive in the form of a workout bonus.<br><br>None more so than Chiefs DE Frank Clark, who has a league-high $1.25M workout bonus.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1516020853573627906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So it lowers the cap hit? I don't see the problem.

[RunKC]

Translation: this is a contract year and if you want to make decent money on your next team in 2023 you best play your ass off this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs DL coach Joe Cullen said he&#39;s expecting career seasons from Chris Jones and Frank Clark. On Jones, Cullen said, &quot;When Chris is on his game, there&#39;s not a better defensive tackle in the NFL.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1532432257029394437?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ChiefBlueCFC]

So it lowers the cap hit? I don't see the problem.

Workout bonus doesn't have an effect on the salary cap if I'm remembering correctly.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Frank Clark has the highest workout bonus of any player in the league and is a no show for this week’s OTA’s.

Yes they are voluntary, but the Chiefs had 90%+ participation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 32 teams are now permitted to conduct their offseason workout programs. While the program is optional, many players around the league have financial incentive in the form of a workout bonus.<br><br>None more so than Chiefs DE Frank Clark, who has a league-high $1.25M workout bonus.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1516020853573627906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jesus Christ, I'd (try to) mouth rape a rabid mountain lion for $1.25 million.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Workout bonus doesn't have an effect on the salary cap if I'm remembering correctly.

I don't think that can possibly be correct, otherwise teams would just put massive workout bonuses into contracts instead of paying signing or roster bonuses.

Either way, if the guy couldn't bother showing up for an extra $1.25 million, he obviously has way too much money or just doesn't care. Probably both.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I don't think that can possibly be correct, otherwise teams would just put massive workout bonuses into contracts instead of paying signing or roster bonuses.

Either way, if the guy couldn't bother showing up for an extra $1.25 million, he obviously has way too much money or just doesn't care. Probably both.

I can never keep straight what exact bonuses effect the cap and which one's don't. So, I could be wrong :shrug: I know there are ways to manipulate it, but I'm no guru for sure. But, I completely agree about him not showing up. Basically a free $1.25m... shit I'd do a lot of questionable things for that kind of money. But I also didn't sign a $100M contract 3 years ago either

[Coogs]

Translation: this is a contract year and if you want to make decent money on your next team in 2023 you best play your ass off this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs DL coach Joe Cullen said he&#39;s expecting career seasons from Chris Jones and Frank Clark. On Jones, Cullen said, &quot;When Chris is on his game, there&#39;s not a better defensive tackle in the NFL.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1532432257029394437?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cullen sort of said Chris Jones has not been at OTA’s either. Said he has been in contact with Jones and Clark, and is looking forward to working with them.

[kccrow]

I can never keep straight what exact bonuses effect the cap and which one's don't. So, I could be wrong :shrug: I know there are ways to manipulate it, but I'm no guru for sure. But, I completely agree about him not showing up. Basically a free $1.25m... shit I'd do a lot of questionable things for that kind of money. But I also didn't sign a $100M contract 3 years ago either

Unlikely to be earned incentives don't count in the current year. If earned, they hit next year's cap. Everything else does.

As for workout bonuses, the team has to carry a workout bonus per roster slot and they adjust it up or down as earned/not earned (and dependent on the actual value) during TC for a cumulative charge against the cap

[ThaVirus]

Translation: this is a contract year and if you want to make decent money on your next team in 2023 you best play your ass off this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs DL coach Joe Cullen said he&#39;s expecting career seasons from Chris Jones and Frank Clark. On Jones, Cullen said, &quot;When Chris is on his game, there&#39;s not a better defensive tackle in the NFL.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1532432257029394437?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Last year was a contract year for that turd Clark. The dude just doesn't have the juice anymore.

And this Tweet is just peak offseason bullshit. I love Chris Jones but Aaron Donald is still in the league.

[DJ's left nut]

Wait - he didn’t show up to OTAs?!?

Thank god we gave this guy an additional $8 million instead of just cutting his ass loose like we should have.

What a worthless puddle of fuck.

[threebag]

Wait - he didn’t show up to OTAs?!?

Thank god we gave this guy an additional $8 million instead of just cutting his ass loose like we should have.

What a worthless puddle of fuck.

This is my camp right here. Watching F. Clark play part time and never do shit to contain a run sucked ass.

[FloridaMan88]

Cullen sort of said Chris Jones has not been at OTA’s either. Said he has been in contact with Jones and Clark, and is looking forward to working with them.

The fact though the Chiefs gave Frank Clark the highest workout bonus incentive of any player in the NFL… presumably to aggressively motivate him to participate in their OTA’s… and he still decides not to show up while 90%+ of his team mates have been in attendance?

That’s weak.

[staylor26]

FWIW, there were some videos of Clark working out on IG, and he was in noticeably better shape than he’s been in some time.

[KCUnited]

FWIW, there were some videos of Clark working out on IG, and he was in noticeably better shape than he’s been in some time.

I’ve seen a couple of these. I’m not holding out hope but he does look noticeably leaner in those videos. Dude was a tub of shit last season in comparison.

[staylor26]

I’ve seen a couple of these. I’m not holding out hope but he does look noticeably leaner in those videos. Dude was a tub of shit last season in comparison.

Exactly. Dude looked ripped.

[BossChief]

I remember reading how he got in front of the team halfway into the Super Bowl year and said he was going to go on a tear the rest of the year. From that point, he did exactly that. Reporting at the time was that he was healthy. Who knows?…maybe he’s healthy now and is about to have a big year. Sure would be nice to see because the Frank Clark from the second half on paired with GK is a really good set of ends. Especially with CJ killing IOLs.

Hearing about him not being at voluntary practices is definitely concerning.

[dlphg9]

Fuck Frank Clark. I can't believe we didn't just let him go

[BossChief]

Fuck Frank Clark. I can't believe we didn't just let him go

Same here.

I’m in “hope for the best” mode.

[threebag]

Same here.

I’m in “hope for the best” mode.

You’re looking to get more “part time mode”

[InChiefsHeaven]

I remember reading how he got in front of the team halfway into the Super Bowl year and said he was going to go on a tear the rest of the year. From that point, he did exactly that. Reporting at the time was that he was healthy. Who knows?…maybe he’s healthy now and is about to have a big year. Sure would be nice to see because the Frank Clark from the second half on paired with GK is a really good set of ends. Especially with CJ killing IOLs.

Hearing about him not being at voluntary practices is definitely concerning.

Seems like every year there's always some dudes that don't show up to these though. I dunno...I just can't wait for the season. We'll see what's what then.

[Dunerdr]

Maybe hes working with a dr/trainer to keep his gut issues in check until camp to maximize his physical output for as long as he can. And as far as CJ not being at OTA's its probably because last time they tried to move him to DE.

[Meatloaf]

Wonder if this was part of the deal to keep him here? Don't show for the Voluntaries and we won't be out $1.5M? Think that could be what's in play here?

[Dunerdr]

Wonder if this was part of the deal to keep him here? Don't show for the Voluntaries and we won't be out $1.5M? Think that could be what's in play here?

I mentioned this previously. Maybe they were like dont fucking show up ass clown. Were keeping that cash on hand.

[threebag]

He sucks at voluntaries just like he sucks on the field, he part-times on his own terms.

He can’t go get fucked soon enough.

[-King-]

Wonder if this was part of the deal to keep him here? Don't show for the Voluntaries and we won't be out $1.5M? Think that could be what's in play here?

That doesn't even make sense.

That money is for mandatory workouts so yeah I'm not surprised his lazy ass won't come to the voluntary ones. Why would he? We're seemingly content on paying him for absolutely nothing, so why change?

[raybec 4]

That doesn't even make sense.

That money is for mandatory workouts so yeah I'm not surprised his lazy ass won't come to the voluntary ones. Why would he? We're seemingly content on paying him for absolutely nothing, so why change?

Not to mention he probably had to spend this summer hiring new security people since he tried TWICE to throw his current gun charges at the feet of the old ones.

[Hammock Parties]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large

[Dante84]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large

Not sure how I feel on this...

If he's lost weight to help with conditioning/speed, great.

But that looks like *a lot* of weight. And for a dude with stomach issues, that may not be a good thing.

[staylor26]

Not sure how I feel on this...

If he's lost weight to help with conditioning/speed, great.

But that looks like *a lot* of weight. And for a dude with stomach issues, that may not be a good thing.

That pic makes him look a lot leaner than he actually is.

He posted some videos of him working out recently and he’s fucking ripped.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large

Umm, wow. If that's a recent pic there is no way in hell he is in football shape. At least not to play the DE position. He will get manhandled.

[KChiefs1]

He sucks


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[Dante84]

That pic makes him look a lot leaner than he actually is.

He posted some videos of him working out recently and he’s ****ing ripped.

The offseason is hilarious, as are hardcore football fans in general. Serious debates on player's body composition; like, I remember the huge debate on Niang's pot-belly last year.

Shit cracks me up.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

That pic makes him look a lot leaner than he actually is.

He posted some videos of him working out recently and he’s ****ing ripped.

That's good to hear. In that pic he looks like he hasn't eaten a slab of protein in months.

[Sorce]

The offseason is hilarious, as are hardcore football fans in general. Serious debates on player's body composition; like, I remember the huge debate on Niang's pot-belly last year.

Shit cracks me up.

I mean there are real concerns, can he even lift an UZI anymore?

[Hammock Parties]

someone was trolling

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/283941683_132439812723186_1746534288375125533_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=-6kG-q_9onAAX_NnOS2&tn=EdoH0oBZwuYfemjE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmkc1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-WZGLv6xpjSw8xthuzXMzKWKIuW6FmwtAPvySrDuz35A&oe=62A2C3C7

[TwistedChief]

Umm, wow. If that's a recent pic there is no way in hell he is in football shape. At least not to play the DE position. He will get manhandled.

Absolutely. staylor could curbstomp this version of Frank Clark and that guy is a total pussy.

[wazu]

someone was trolling

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/283941683_132439812723186_1746534288375125533_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=-6kG-q_9onAAX_NnOS2&tn=EdoH0oBZwuYfemjE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmkc1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-WZGLv6xpjSw8xthuzXMzKWKIuW6FmwtAPvySrDuz35A&oe=62A2C3C7

My money is on the girl.

[suzzer99]

Frank's getting ready to try his useless spin move on her.

[ChiefGator]

At this point, if we get eight sacks from him, it will feel like we won the lottery.

[AdolfOliverBush]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large

That looks like Frank's head photoshopped onto Snoop Dogg's body.

[DJ's left nut]

Not sure how I feel on this...

If he's lost weight to help with conditioning/speed, great.

But that looks like *a lot* of weight. And for a dude with stomach issues, that may not be a good thing.

Just assume he's going to suck again and you'll probably be in pretty good shape.

[DJ's left nut]

The offseason is hilarious, as are hardcore football fans in general. Serious debates on player's body composition; like, I remember the huge debate on Niang's pot-belly last year.

Shit cracks me up.

But here's the thing about all that - a lot of the time these things get hand-waived and then come the regular season Niang shows up out of shape and ineffective. Or Speaks gets his tubby ass injured then cut. Or Clark looks two steps too slow and then hurts his hammy.

I mean we want to laugh off what these guys look like in June but oftentimes it does seem to be an indicator of their mindset and sometimes even a precursor to what ends up being a lost season.

[Sassy Squatch]

Frank's getting ready to try his useless spin move on her.
We should start calling that worthless spin move the Sharknado

[ToxSocks]

The offseason is hilarious, as are hardcore football fans in general. Serious debates on player's body composition; like, I remember the huge debate on Niang's pot-belly last year.

Shit cracks me up.

Yeah?

And then what happened?

We talked about his bird legs and pot belly because we were worried about his balance and leg injuries....and then he blew out his knee on a mundane drop back.

Body composition matters. It tells a lot about a player. Like everything else, it's a part of the story.

[ToxSocks]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large

Also, LOL.

That's not weight loss. That's an entirely different body. WTF is this? A photoshop?

[duncan_idaho]

Also, LOL.

That's not weight loss. That's an entirely different body. WTF is this? A photoshop?

It's a photoshop.

[Hammock Parties]

cheap phone filter most likely

[threebag]

The offseason is hilarious, as are hardcore football fans in general. Serious debates on player's body composition; like, I remember the huge debate on Niang's pot-belly last year.

Shit cracks me up.

Exactly, he sucks regardless what he looks like.

[Hammock Parties]

not a photoshop LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">it is frank clark in that photo. i have the video clip of it here. 3:30 mark<a href="https://t.co/3fyOnvQWRi">https://t.co/3fyOnvQWRi</a></p>&mdash; how bout those CHIEFS (@hbtCHIEFS) <a href="https://twitter.com/hbtCHIEFS/status/1533890460749549568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Dante84]

But here's the thing about all that - a lot of the time these things get hand-waived and then come the regular season Niang shows up out of shape and ineffective. Or Speaks gets his tubby ass injured then cut. Or Clark looks two steps too slow and then hurts his hammy.

I mean we want to laugh off what these guys look like in June but oftentimes it does seem to be an indicator of their mindset and sometimes even a precursor to what ends up being a lost season.

Yeah?

And then what happened?

We talked about his bird legs and pot belly because we were worried about his balance and leg injuries....and then he blew out his knee on a mundane drop back.

Body composition matters. It tells a lot about a player. Like everything else, it's a part of the story.

Oh, I'm with you guys, I get the "why," but it does crack me up that we are so invested in this shit that we debate about this stuff.

[Buehler445]

But here's the thing about all that - a lot of the time these things get hand-waived and then come the regular season Niang shows up out of shape and ineffective. Or Speaks gets his tubby ass injured then cut. Or Clark looks two steps too slow and then hurts his hammy.

I mean we want to laugh off what these guys look like in June but oftentimes it does seem to be an indicator of their mindset and sometimes even a precursor to what ends up being a lost season.

There’s also the other side. People were melting down because Mahomes didn’t have a shredded 6 pack while he’s drinking beer on a boat. Physicality wasn’t a problem for Mahomes.

[Buehler445]

Oh. And Sherman showing up looking like the Greek God of Hillbilly didn’t make him anymore than a hilariously likable fungible player.

[scho63]

At this point, if we get eight sacks from him, it will feel like we won the lottery.

8 sacks???

That would be a miracle :hmmm:

[JohnnyHammersticks]

It's a really, really, really bad sign when I'm more bulked up than our starting DE :eek:

[mdstu]

It's a really, really, really bad sign when I'm more bulked up than our starting DE :eek:

It's not a bad sign, it just means you don't know how to use Photoshop.

[wazu]

It's not a bad sign, it just means you don't know how to use Photoshop.

That’s not photoshop.

[saphojunkie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUlXRTSXsAEt2vH?format=jpg&name=large


omg I screengrabbed the exact same moment and came here to post it lol

[-King-]

not a photoshop LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">it is frank clark in that photo. i have the video clip of it here. 3:30 mark<a href="https://t.co/3fyOnvQWRi">https://t.co/3fyOnvQWRi</a></p>&mdash; how bout those CHIEFS (@hbtCHIEFS) <a href="https://twitter.com/hbtCHIEFS/status/1533890460749549568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow wtf? His arms look like Mecoles.

Like this is a shocking weight loss/body change from a normal person, much less a pro football player. What's going on?

[-King-]

There’s also the other side. People were melting down because Mahomes didn’t have a shredded 6 pack while he’s drinking beer on a boat. Physicality wasn’t a problem for Mahomes.

Yeah but the physical demands of QB and DE are VASTLY different. Mahomes could come out at 300lbs but as long as he has that arm and that brain, he'll still be the best QB in the league. A DE though...

[Nickhead]

he looks like a cancer patient.

[saphojunkie]

he looks like Kevin Durant

[ping2000]

Monkeypox?

[Dunerdr]

Maybe hes trying to get cut?

[MIAdragon]

Don’t worry guys his shitty play is because he’s trying to play through an injury……

[ThaVirus]

Wow wtf? His arms look like Mecoles.

Like this is a shocking weight loss/body change from a normal person, much less a pro football player. What's going on?

Probably stopped taking whatever performance enhancers he was on and wasn't eating as many calories.

Even though a lot of these guys are the 1%, I'm sure they're on all kinds of shit and maintaining an NFL body is probably difficult to do for 365 days a year.

[Dunerdr]

Probably stopped taking whatever performance enhancers he was on and wasn't eating as many calories.

Even though a lot of these guys are the 1%, I'm sure they're on all kinds of shit and maintaining an NFL body is probably difficult to do for 365 days a year.

Kind of in crunch time to get some weight back on though. I think thats the worry.

[ThaVirus]

Kind of in crunch time to get some weight back on though. I think thats the worry.

I have little love for Frank Clark so I'm not going to spend any time defending him; I'm just answering King's question.

Gronk looked worse when he retired briefly a couple years ago then came back the same beast he was pretty quickly.

[KCUnited]

He looks like Breeland Speaks small intestine.

[louie aguiar]

Good to see Frank is hitting the weights in the off-season. OTOH, remember all the talk about Gronk when he briefly retired and lost a bunch of weight/bulk?

[kcclone]

Slim Reaper

[-King-]

I have little love for Frank Clark so I'm not going to spend any time defending him; I'm just answering King's question.

Gronk looked worse when he retired briefly a couple years ago then came back the same beast he was pretty quickly.

I wish the playing like "the same beast" for Clark wasn't 4 sacks in a season with one or 2 of them being completely unblocked though.




I'll be honest, it still boggles my mind that he's on the team. Even though I hate the Hill trade, I still see the logic in it. This though...I don't get at all.

[RunKC]

I think their hands were tied. They said they were looking at a vet DE but at the time couldn’t pay them without paying Tyreek.

I think it was smart to not pay a 30 year old Za’Darius Smith a 3 year $14 million AAV contract with a serious injury. Especially with Clark on the books the next 2 years.

Part of it I think is Spags. He wanted Frank when we made the trade. I think he still thinks he can get something out of him. Maybe that’s Spags pride being foolish but we literally cannot get rid of him without paying dead money out the ass so I think they thought “fuck it let’s just keep him one more year since we’re paying for his ass anyway”.

I still want another edge rusher before the season starts. I’m sure a trade will come

[wazu]

I still want another edge rusher before the season starts. I’m sure a trade will come

I was never convinced this was the plan, but maybe Frank Clark showing up to camp 50 pounds underweight forces the issue.

[staylor26]

JFC there’s another picture from that same day where he doesn’t look nearly as skinny.

But let’s overreact to the other picture!

Again, the dude has posted videos of him working out and he’s obviously leaner, but he’s ripped and looks to be in great shape compared to last year.

[louie aguiar]

I wish the playing like "the same beast" for Clark wasn't 4 sacks in a season with one or 2 of them being completely unblocked though.




I'll be honest, it still boggles my mind that he's on the team. Even though I hate the Hill trade, I still see the logic in it. This though...I don't get at all.

I agree. I like some of the changes in the back 7 but I really wish they would have done more to upgrade the pass rush. Unless Karlaftis can make an immediate impact (it usually takes edge defenders a year or two to develop at the NFL level) I think we may be watching QBs stand back in a clean pocket patting the ball waiting for guys to break open.

[louie aguiar]

JFC there’s another picture from that same day where he doesn’t look nearly as skinny.

But let’s overreact to the other picture!

Again, the dude has posted videos of him working out and he’s obviously leaner, but he’s ripped and looks to be in great shape compared to last year.

Do you have links to those pics/videos? Not stating they don't exist, I just haven't seen them and can't find them online.

[staylor26]

Do you have links to those pics/videos? Not stating they don't exist, I just haven't seen them and can't find them online.

No, they were on his Instagram story which only stays on there for a day.

If you look a few pages back to where I first mentioned it, somebody else saw them too.

[-King-]

I agree. I like some of the changes in the back 7 but I really wish they would have done more to upgrade the pass rush. Unless Karlaftis can make an immediate impact (it usually takes edge defenders a year or two to develop at the NFL level) I think we may be watching QBs stand back in a clean pocket patting the ball waiting for guys to break open.

That's my worry. We have a bunch of young DBs. After QB, that's probably the hardest position to play. It's hard for vet DBs to play without a pass rush, but we're expecting a bunch of rookie to 3rd year players to hold up? It's going to be extremely hard for them.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

That pic makes him look a lot leaner than he actually is.

He posted some videos of him working out recently and he’s ****ing ripped.

Awesome. Can't wait for the 5 sacks it leads to...

[staylor26]

Awesome. Can't wait for the 5 sacks it leads to...

Oh, I’m not saying that it’s going to lead to anything on the field.

I’m just speaking to this overreaction over a picture.

[-King-]

Do you have links to those pics/videos? Not stating they don't exist, I just haven't seen them and can't find them online.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Hmmmmm <a href="https://t.co/yFpw2ldwYg">pic.twitter.com/yFpw2ldwYg</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Network (@ChiefsNetwork1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsNetwork1/status/1533893623959404544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Found this. He still looks like a skinny guy with a pump. Not like a NFL DE.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Hmmmmm <a href="https://t.co/yFpw2ldwYg">pic.twitter.com/yFpw2ldwYg</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Network (@ChiefsNetwork1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsNetwork1/status/1533893623959404544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Found this. He still looks like a skinny guy with a pump. Not like a NFL DE.

Orrr, like Cullen said the other day, the Chiefs are going to be multiple in their fronts.

He’s clearly in much better shape than last year and idiots like yourself are trying to spin that into a bad thing.

Will it lead to improvement on the field? Not counting on it.

Will he be worse off being in much better shape though? Absolutely not.

[Megatron96]

Guy is working pretty hard. No slacking going on in that workout. Hope it translates into something meaningful on the field.

[-King-]

Orrr, like Cullen said the other day, the Chiefs are going to be multiple in their fronts.

He’s clearly in much better shape than last year and idiots like yourself are trying to spin that into a bad thing.

Will it lead to improvement on the field? Not counting on it.

Will he be worse off being in much better shape though? Absolutely not.

If you say so.

[staylor26]

If you say so.

Are you seriously arguing that he’s not?

Who am I kidding? Of course you are.

Andy basically said that he came into camp in bad shape, but I’m sure you know better than he does!

Fucking moron.

[-King-]

Are you seriously arguing that he’s not?

Who am I kidding? Of course you are.

Andy basically said that he came into camp in bad shape, but I’m sure you know better than he does!

Fucking moron.

Imagine this being your reaction to someone calling a player skinny. Especially when everybody else also agrees he looks skinny. LMAO LMAO

[staylor26]

Imagine this being your reaction to someone calling someone else skinny. Especially when everybody else also agrees he looks skinny. LMAO LMAO

He looked “skinny” in one picture.

Even after you watched that video, you’re still insisting that he’s not clearly in better shape than last year. He doesn’t look “skinny” in that video. He looks leaner and more ripped. There’s a difference.

You also completely ignored that Cullen said the Chiefs will be multiple in their fronts this year, which could be a factor.

Just like you just ignored what Andy said about him.

[-King-]

He looked “skinny” in one picture.

Even after you watched that video, you’re still insisting that he’s not clearly in better shape than last year. He doesn’t look “skinny” in that video. He looks leaner and more ripped. There’s a difference.

You also completely ignored that Cullen said the Chiefs will be multiple in their fronts this year, which could be a factor.

Just like you just ignored what Andy said about him.

Yeah but he looks like if Snoop Dogg went through a bulimia phase.

[TwistedChief]

Geez.

Agreeing with King or defending Frank Clark.

Why is it so hard to be a Chiefs fan?

[staylor26]

Yeah but he looks like if Snoop Dogg went through a bulimia phase.

Whatever you say troll.

[-King-]

Whatever you say troll.

Yeah, I've seen a workout pump a time or two before.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Geez.

Agreeing with King or defending Frank Clark.

Why is it so hard to be a Chiefs fan?

https://i.imgflip.com/2bga28.jpg

[kcclone]

Can he be any worse?

[ToxSocks]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Hmmmmm <a href="https://t.co/yFpw2ldwYg">pic.twitter.com/yFpw2ldwYg</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Network (@ChiefsNetwork1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsNetwork1/status/1533893623959404544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Found this. He still looks like a skinny guy with a pump. Not like a NFL DE.

He shed last season's weight. No gut anymore.

[staylor26]

He shed last season's weight. No gut anymore.

But that’s somehow a bad thing!

[The Franchise]

I'm not getting some people here.

Are you wanting him to be fat and out of shape?

[staylor26]

I'm not getting some people here.

Are you wanting him to be fat and out of shape?

You’re talking to somebody that doesn’t even think he’s in better shape than last year.

King fucking retard.

[The Franchise]

You’re talking to somebody that doesn’t even think he’s in better shape than last year.

King fucking reerun.

If it's King or Tex....I just go into it knowing that their argument is going to be stupid and pointless.

[ToxSocks]

Both things can be true.

He has lost weight, it should theoretically be a good thing.

He isn't jacked by NFL DE standards. Because he's working out in this video he's going to look more pumped than he really is.

It is quite possible that in his weight loss he's lost good weight too, i.e some muscle mass.

It's also possible that he's in a rigid training program and in a lean phase, with the intention of bulking back up again as TC approaches. He could easily add 10lbs in that time, or more.

*****************

With all that said, all we can REALLY take from this video is that at least he's trying this time.

[The Franchise]

Both things can be true.

He has lost weight, it should theoretically be a good thing.

He isn't jacked by NFL DE standards. Because he's working out in this video he's going to look more pumped than he really is.

It is quite possible that in his weight loss he's lost good weight too, i.e some muscle mass.

It's also possible that he's in a rigid training program and in a lean phase, with the intention of bulking back up again as TC approaches.

*****************

With all that said, all we can REALLY take from this video is that at least he's trying this time.

Pretty much.

Plus it's June and we haven't seen him in any actual, meaningful NFL action. I'll reserve the right to complain until I see that.

Either way...he's gone after this season.

[staylor26]

If it's King or Tex....I just go into it knowing that their argument is going to be stupid and pointless.

Good rule of thumb.

[staylor26]

Both things can be true.

He has lost weight, it should theoretically be a good thing.

He isn't jacked by NFL DE standards. Because he's working out in this video he's going to look more pumped than he really is.

It is quite possible that in his weight loss he's lost good weight too, i.e some muscle mass.

It's also possible that he's in a rigid training program and in a lean phase, with the intention of bulking back up again as TC approaches. He could easily add 10lbs in that time, or more.

*****************

With all that said, all we can REALLY take from this video is that at least he's trying this time.

But like I was trying to say, Cullen recently said the Chiefs are going to be multiple on their fronts. This could be the plan for him.

And I just don’t see how this could possibly be a net loss either way considering he reportedly was in bad physical shape last year.

[Sofa King]

He looks sick.

[O.city]

He looks fine? I mean he's not fat so that's better than last year.

[DJ's left nut]

With all that said, all we can REALLY take from this video is that at least he's trying this time.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/26FmQ6EOvLxp6cWyY/200.gif

Bottom line is that Frank Clark was simply never good as Veach thought he was. He can 'try' all he wants but Frank Clark Fucking Sucks.

[FloridaMan88]

I'm not getting some people here.

Are you wanting him to be fat and out of shape?

I don't give a shit about some random picture of him... my issue is the fact he hasn't participated in any of the OTA's to-date, despite the Chiefs giving him the most lucrative offseason workout bonus of any player in the NFL to attend these workouts.

And yes I know they are voluntary... but if your team is giving you the biggest $$$ offseason workout bonus in the league... take a hint.

[DJ's left nut]

But like I was trying to say, Cullen recently said the Chiefs are going to be multiple on their fronts. This could be the plan for him.

And I just don’t see how this could possibly be a net loss either way considering he reportedly was in bad physical shape last year.

Reportedly?

You saw him, right?

There was no 'reportedly' to it - dude spent the offseason ferrying firearms and getting fat.

I just don't think it matters much. He's a mediocre player who had a couple nice years as a situational rusher early in his career (as have MANY guys) who is now being considered a bounce back candidate due to nothing more than the money he was being paid.

If this guy had never gotten the contract he got, he'd probably be out of the league by now. There's nothing unique or interesting or even surprising about a flash in the pan.

All that's surprising is that Veach bought into it.

[staylor26]

Reportedly?

You saw him, right?

There was no 'reportedly' to it - dude spent the offseason ferrying firearms and getting fat.

I just don't think it matters much. He's a mediocre player who had a couple nice years as a situational rusher early in his career (as have MANY guys) who is now being considered a bounce back candidate due to nothing more than the money he was being paid.

If this guy had never gotten the contract he got, he'd probably be out of the league by now. There's nothing unique or interesting or even surprising about a flash in the pan.

All that's surprising is that Veach bought into it.

I still think you don’t give enough credit to the Seahawks version of Frank Clark. If we got that guy, it would’ve never been an issue.

But that’s a pointless discussion that we’ve already had many times.

I’ve already said that being in better shape might not mean shit on the field, but it certainly isn’t a bad thing either.

[louie aguiar]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/26FmQ6EOvLxp6cWyY/200.gif

Bottom line is that Frank Clark was simply never good as Veach thought he was. He can 'try' all he wants but Frank Clark ****ing Sucks.

That's where I'm at. He's a physically limited player. He doesn't have the burst/get-off/bend to win with speed and he doesn't have the strength to win with power.

That being said, it is good to see that he seems to be working out this offseason. Hopefully he can play closer to 2019 Frank instead of 2021 Frank.

[saphojunkie]

I'm a little relieved at that workout video, because I was legit scared his stomach issue had just taken all his weight off. He seems to be in great shape, but I think everyone can agree that same level of fitness with about 25 more lbs of muscle would be better.

I mean, mass is half the equation.

[DJ's left nut]

That's where I'm at. He's a physically limited player. He doesn't have the burst/get-off/bend to win with speed and he doesn't have the strength to win with power.

That being said, it is good to see that he seems to be working out this offseason. Hopefully he can play closer to 2019 Frank instead of 2021 Frank.

I mean ultimately my position has been that the Chiefs need a speed rusher opposite of Karlaftis.

If Clark dropping 40 pounds lets them line him out wider and cheat to make up for a lack of bend by simply having him try to beat the OT to the spot, maybe they can get something out of him. He's still long - maybe being 245 lbs and long-legged will allow him to actually find some explosion and be useful.

I mean he'll be a complete trainwreck at anything else he does, but maybe he can finally get after the passer a bit.

Still boggles my mind we brought this clown back.

[-King-]

Good rule of thumb.

And yet, here you are, every single thread.

[staylor26]

And yet, here you are, every single thread.

I just can’t help myself when you say things as stupid as Clark isn’t clearly in better shape now than he was last offseason.

[-King-]

I just can’t help myself when you say things as stupid as Clark isn’t clearly in better shape now than he was last offseason.

Can you link me to the post where I said that?

[staylor26]

Can you link me to the post where I said that?

Your response when I said he was clearly in better shape than last year (which you bolded specifically):

If you say so.

The implication was clearly there that you disagreed, but here’s where you pretend otherwise.

[threebag]

I don't give a shit about some random picture of him... my issue is the fact he hasn't participated in any of the OTA's to-date, despite the Chiefs giving him the most lucrative offseason workout bonus of any player in the NFL to attend these workouts.

And yes I know they are voluntary... but if your team is giving you the biggest $$$ offseason workout bonus in the league... take a hint.

He’s practicing taking plays off

[-King-]

Your response when I said he was clearly in better shape than last year (which you bolded specifically):



The implication was clearly there that you disagreed, but here’s where you pretend otherwise.


So it's not something I said? It's something you said that I just went along with? Cool.

[staylor26]

So it's not something I said? It's something you said that I just went along with? Cool.

You’re such a disingenuous bundle of sticks.

You didn’t “go along with it”. You were being a smart ass and obviously implying that he wasn’t clearly in better shape.

In no way were you agreeing with me. Anybody with half a brain knows what you meant by “if you say so”.

Used to convey lack of agreement together with a refusal to enter into or continue an argument.

[RunKC]

That's where I'm at. He's a physically limited player. He doesn't have the burst/get-off/bend to win with speed and he doesn't have the strength to win with power.

That being said, it is good to see that he seems to be working out this offseason. Hopefully he can play closer to 2019 Frank instead of 2021 Frank.

He was that guy in Seattle. It sucks bc that guy was legitimately good. In KC he has not been that guy

https://youtu.be/c3yKkXU2Uhw

[-King-]

You’re such a disingenuous bundle of sticks.

You didn’t “go along with it”. You were being a smart ass and obviously implying that he wasn’t clearly in better shape.

In no way were you agreeing with me. Anybody with half a brain knows what you meant by “if you say so”.

Do me a favor. Go back and read through my replies to you in this thread and tell me if you think I take you or anything you say seriously. I just go along and troll you these days because like you said, you can't even help yourself when it comes to my posts.

Anyways, frank Clark vs current day Wiz Khalifa. Who's stronger and more in shape?

[staylor26]

Do me a favor. Go back and read through my replies to you in this thread and tell me if you think I take you or anything you say seriously. I just go along and troll you these days because like you said, you can't even help yourself when it comes to my posts.

Anyways, frank Clark vs current day Wiz Khalifa. Who's stronger and more in shape?

Tap out acknowledged.

[-King-]

Tap out acknowledged.

Are you going to answer the question?

[FloridaMan88]

Looks like no Frank Clark on day one of the mandatory minicamp:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs just concluded 1st of their 3 mandatory mini-camp practices. Frank Clark among those not in attendance. Rookie CBs Trent McDuffie and Joshua Williams left practice early accompanied by a trainer.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1536763935646433280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DJ's left nut]

It's okay - he lost weight.

DL is in fine shape. No worries - nothing to see here.

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO Doesn't he have the highest bonus league wide just to show up?

[New World Order]

Looks like no Frank Clark on day one of the mandatory minicamp:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs just concluded 1st of their 3 mandatory mini-camp practices. Frank Clark among those not in attendance. Rookie CBs Trent McDuffie and Joshua Williams left practice early accompanied by a trainer.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1536763935646433280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Frank mad at Chiefs for all that money they paid him.

[Dunerdr]

Looks like no Frank Clark on day one of the mandatory minicamp:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs just concluded 1st of their 3 mandatory mini-camp practices. Frank Clark among those not in attendance. Rookie CBs Trent McDuffie and Joshua Williams left practice early accompanied by a trainer.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1536763935646433280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

House arrest problems.

[Bowser]

LMAO Doesn't he have the highest bonus league wide just to show up?

*had

[ChiefAshhole1056]

He looks like he lost a bunch of weight and if he’s not showing up to camp than perhaps simply his head/heart aren’t in it anymore to go through another season. What happens if he retires? Would have to imagine some cap space is freed up.

[POND_OF_RED]

Looks like no Frank Clark on day one of the mandatory minicamp:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs just concluded 1st of their 3 mandatory mini-camp practices. Frank Clark among those not in attendance. Rookie CBs Trent McDuffie and Joshua Williams left practice early accompanied by a trainer.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1536763935646433280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it’s his birthday today too. I wonder if the coaches gave him the day off because of that since he’s a veteran on the team now.

[Sassy Squatch]

Looks like it’s his birthday today too. I wonder if the coaches gave him the day off because of that since he’s a veteran on the team now.
Probably it. Been excused for today.

[-King-]

Looks like it’s his birthday today too. I wonder if the coaches gave him the day off because of that since he’s a veteran on the team now.
Now that's a man who's taking his second undeserved chance at a contract year seriously!

[threebag]

Hopefully he does something to forfeit his bond and ends up incarcerated.

[FloridaMan88]

Frank Clark with another "excused absence" on Day 2 of the mandatory minicamp.

Must be a multi-day birthday celebration.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the second day in a row, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DE Frank Clark’s absence is excused, per the communications staff. <a href="https://t.co/iLSODnsTM6">https://t.co/iLSODnsTM6</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1537135134998249476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[-King-]

LMAO how the fuck did we not cut him? Let me guess, the fact that it's excused means he'll still get his bonus?

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

LMAO how the fuck did we not cut him? Let me guess, the fact that it's excused means he'll still get his bonus?

I'm with you. I was hoping this offseason we'd finally cut him loose. Maybe we really are just that desperate at DL?

[Sassy Squatch]

What the fuck....

[DJ's left nut]

{snicker}

But guys - we HAD to keep him. It was a no-brainer...

[ThaVirus]

Is this supposed to move the meter?

The guy’s a bum who is stealing from the organization but it’s only a couple days of minicamp. It’s not like he doesn’t know the playbook and his responsibilities.

Biggest thing for him will be getting into game shape and he’s got a little less than 3 months to do it.

[Dunerdr]

Could be a funeral or a death in the family, but my mind jumps to fuck this guy. lol.

[dlphg9]

Lmao, anyone acting like we got some type of bargain or some shit with Rank is a fucking retard.

[dlphg9]

Could be a funeral or a death in the family, but my mind jumps to **** this guy. lol.

Maybe it's his own funeral?

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have excused Pro Bowl DE Frank Clark from mini-camp, as he’s expecting the birth of his child any day.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1537167733967552513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[suzzer99]

LOLOLOL

[OKchiefs]

How convenient, couldn’t bother to show up for OTAs even with a large workout bonus on the line and now this. Motherfucker is gone soon enough, looking forward to it.

[TLO]

Where is Blake Bell?

[BossChief]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have excused Pro Bowl DE Frank Clark from mini-camp, as he’s expecting the birth of his child any day.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1537167733967552513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GTFO

“Any day now”…?

I can understand being there for the birth of your child. No question. But to miss multiple mandatory practices because a due date is coming up ain’t gonna cut it. Not with him getting paid what he is.

[TEX]

LMAO how the **** did we not cut him? Let me guess, the fact that it's excused means he'll still get his bonus?

Remember, we HAD to keep him because....:rolleyes:

[ThaVirus]

I hate everything about this dude still being on the team but let's grab some perspective here lol

It's not a problem to miss a few days of minicamp to witness the birth of your child.

[TwistedChief]

GTFO

“Any day now”…?

I can understand being there for the birth of your child. No question. But to miss multiple mandatory practices because a due date is coming up ain’t gonna cut it. Not with him getting paid what he is.

I don't think you can "understand being there for the birth of your child" if in the same paragraph you bemoan his missing offseason practices.

I get that we all hate the guy but this isn't the spot to criticize him.

[raybec 4]

I don't think you can "understand being there for the birth of your child" if in the same paragraph you bemoan his missing offseason practices.

I get that we all hate the guy but this isn't the spot to criticize him.

No way man!! His priorities are all fucked up! They should be :
Jesus, Football, Guns, ............lots of other stuff........his kids.

[DJ's left nut]

I don't think you can "understand being there for the birth of your child" if in the same paragraph you bemoan his missing offseason practices.

I get that we all hate the guy but this isn't the spot to criticize him.

Dude lives in Overland Park.

He's like 25 minutes away from the practice facility.

C'mon - this is just more excuse making. He doesn't want to go - he found a reason not to go. The team didn't feel like putting up with him spouting off if they tried to force his hand.

If he gave a shit, he'd be there. And have a driver on call or whatever else he'd need to ensure he could get there timely if/when the situation called for it.

But he doesn't give a shit. So he's not there.

[Simply Red]

Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.

did this get vocaroo'd SNR?

[Titty Meat]

GTFO

“Any day now”…?

I can understand being there for the birth of your child. No question. But to miss multiple mandatory practices because a due date is coming up ain’t gonna cut it. Not with him getting paid what he is.

DAY TO DAY!

[Titty Meat]

I don't think you can "understand being there for the birth of your child" if in the same paragraph you bemoan his missing offseason practices.

I get that we all hate the guy but this isn't the spot to criticize him.

Hasn't he missed all of camp though? I thought he was "working out on his own"

[TEX]

I don't think you can "understand being there for the birth of your child" if in the same paragraph you bemoan his missing offseason practices.

I get that we all hate the guy but this isn't the spot to criticize him.

I think this is very true in general. But in Clark's case, he hasn't earned the benefit of any doubt. He's slacked off and underperformed enough for me to believe it's just an excuse to get out if being there.

[Chief3188]

I would agree. They pay this man enough money that he can have his pregnant girl there by him in KC so he could just run off when it is time. If the baby is due any day, she isn't working or anything.
As much as I loathe him and the majority of his performance in his time here I will always say it was worth it for his amazing presence in the 2019 postseason but... with that said this has got to be the last year to deal with this guy half-assing his way through another season.

[PAChiefsGuy]

It's a joke this overpaid loudmouth is still on the team. I don't get it.

[bobhill]

There just buying time . Imo, I believe the chiefs think they have something in Herring, Danna, Kaindoh,Karlaftis etc.... and just wanted an vet figure there to teach

[TwistedChief]

Dude lives in Overland Park.



Do you know if she's giving birth in the area? Been in touch with her OB?

[Eleazar]

Dude lives in Overland Park.

He's like 25 minutes away from the practice facility.

C'mon - this is just more excuse making. He doesn't want to go - he found a reason not to go. The team didn't feel like putting up with him spouting off if they tried to force his hand.

If he gave a shit, he'd be there. And have a driver on call or whatever else he'd need to ensure he could get there timely if/when the situation called for it.

But he doesn't give a shit. So he's not there.

If you don't understand why you need to be around when the birth of your child is imminent and why the birth of a child is more important than football practice I'm not sure anyone can help you.

[saltydd5]

He's only still on the team this year because they couldn't trade him with his current contract and if they cut him the dead money hit (21 mil) would count against the cap.

[DJ's left nut]

If you don't understand why you need to be around when the birth of your child is imminent and why the birth of a child is more important than football practice I'm not sure anyone can help you.

He’s 25 minutes away from his home.

And the birth is ‘any day now’

You have an odd definition of ‘imminent’ and ‘around’ sir.

I have three kids and was present for both births. You don’t need to be sitting on your couch for 3-5 days just in case. And at this point if it were any sort of high risk pregnancy she would have a scheduled C-Section or a planned inducement.

This is an excuse. He doesn’t want to be there so he isn’t.

[BossChief]

Dude lives in Overland Park.

He's like 25 minutes away from the practice facility.

C'mon - this is just more excuse making. He doesn't want to go - he found a reason not to go. The team didn't feel like putting up with him spouting off if they tried to force his hand.

If he gave a shit, he'd be there. And have a driver on call or whatever else he'd need to ensure he could get there timely if/when the situation called for it.

But he doesn't give a shit. So he's not there.

Beat me to it.

This isn’t talking about missing the birth of his child. This is about him not showing up for any practices when he’s being paid to be a veteran leader of this defense. This is talking about him not showing up to weeks worth of voluntary and mandatory practices because his baby is due to be born in the near future when he lives pretty close to practice facilities.This is a continuation of a pattern of what pisses people off about Frank Clark. Its missing practices every year, it’s showing up to camp in the middle of a 100+ million dollar contract completely out of shape like he couldn’t care any less about his commitment to his teammates, team owner and the GM that has done everything humanly possible for him. Its how he takes plays off so regularly that you could objectively say he takes whole stretches of a season off…you could objectively say he’s taken 75% of his time in KC “off”.

If Frank Clark was a guy doing on the field what he’s being paid to do (be a consistent double digit sack guy that helps the whole defense) this “missing multiple mandatory practices because his child is due any day” wouldn’t bother anyone.

But we all know that’s just not the case.

[BossChief]

He’s 25 minutes away from his home.

And the birth is ‘any day now’

You have an odd definition of ‘imminent’ and ‘around’ sir.

I have three kids and was present for both births. You don’t need to be sitting on your couch for 3-5 days just in case. And at this point if it were any sort of high risk pregnancy she would have a scheduled C-Section or a planned inducement.

This is an excuse. He doesn’t want to be there so he isn’t.

Exactly.

[DJ's left nut]

It takes maybe an hour to put together a 'birthing plan'.

They know what hospital she's going to and it's presumptively in KC. So he's probably about as far away from wherever she's going to end up as she is. So you pack an overnight bag and take it with you to the facility then you keep a driver at the house.

If she feels some early contractions, you ask to step away from drills and make a phonecall. If she decides to head to the hospital, she lets the driver know and you head that way. Y'all will probably get there at the same time.

Folks acting like she's going to be eating lunch and just - BOOM! - BABY ON THE FLOOR! WHO'S GONNA CUT THE CORD!!! Aren't terribly familiar with how this goes.

But folks that have been running cover for Frank Clark's lack of give a fuck have been doing it for 3 years now so why would they stop now?

Like I said - the Chiefs didn't feel like dealing with the blowback from people like our friend Razaele who are going to just take anything Clark says at face value without actually thinking any of it through. The PR headache wasn't worth the nominal value of having a POS like Frank Clark actually show up. It's not like he's worth a damn either way so whatever.

BUT WHAT IF SHE NEEDS THE MEDICAL EXPERTISE OF FRANK CLARK DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION!!!

[ChiefBlueCFC]

When you have zero expectations of a player, it makes it hard to be bothered by anything he does or doesn't do.

[RealSNR]

did this get vocaroo'd SNR?

I did not

[TwistedChief]

They know what hospital she's going to and it's presumptively in KC. So he's !

Why do you presume it's in KC? No one thought he was going to be back on the team when the season ended, and he probably felt similarly. He restructured in March when his wife was presumably 6 months pregnant.

Perhaps they figured they'd be in a different place next season so they wanted to have the kid in California where he's from (and presumably has family). Is that so far fetched to you? If only there were evidence that he was in California recently... photographic perhaps... perhaps at a football camp... You're a lawyer. Is that corroborative enough?

I don't know about you, but I know my wife wouldn't have wanted to be uprooted at 6 months after establishing a relationship with her OB.

But thanks for your deep explanation of how child birth works. There is literally no subject you are not an expert on.

[BossChief]

Why do you presume it's in KC? No one thought he was going to be back on the team when the season ended, and he probably felt similarly. He restructured in March when his wife was presumably 6 months pregnant.

Perhaps they figured they'd be in a different place next season so they wanted to have the kid in California where he's from (and presumably has family). Is that so far fetched to you? If only there were evidence that he was in California recently... photographic perhaps... perhaps at a football camp... You're a lawyer. Is that corroborative enough?

I don't know about you, but I know my wife wouldn't have wanted to be uprooted at 6 months after establishing a relationship with her OB.

But thanks for your deep explanation of how child birth works. There is literally no subject you are not an expert on.

I applaud you for defending Frank in this situation and perhaps you’re correct.

Here’s the thing though…I’ve always went by “trust the actions, not the words. If a person has a defined pattern of actions, trust that pattern will continue until it’s disrupted and a new pattern begins. Even then, monitor the new pattern to not be fooled when the old patter re-emerges”.

I have a very difficult time believing this is anything more than a continuation of an established long term pattern with Clark. It’s also possible that his offseason weight loss is a sign of a new pattern emerging…but him missing voluntary and mandatory practices where his new DL coach is installing new concepts and communication to the DL, these practices are VITAL for him to “hit the ground running” …which he hasn’t been able to do in any year in his time in KC.

You do realize that Veach gave him the biggest bonus in the league to incentivize him to show up for these practices. He did that because he’s trying to monetarily incentivize Frank to break his pattern of laziness.

Those are reasons not everyone accepts the excuse at face value…they just see it (as I do) as another part of his established pattern that is extremely disappointing when Veach has seemingly banked on Frank Clark having a career year and therefore bypassed addressing his replacement this offseason.

[RealSNR]

When you have zero expectations of a player, it makes it hard to be bothered by anything he does or doesn't do.

This is where I'm at.

I already lamented that we kept him around another year. I view him as a sack of crap on the football field, but he's not going away, so I'm not going to keep getting worked up about it.

So given he's at sack of crap levels, I don't really care. Skip mini-camp practice? He's a sack of crap. Get arrested for carrying around an uzi? He's a sack of crap. Actually fucking play well in a game? A pleasant surprise, but will need to see way more of those in order for him to not be a sack of crap.

We were Mahomes not shitting his pants away from going to a third straight Super Bowl with this sack of crap in the lineup. It can be done, so I'm just going to accept it and move on and focus on the actually good and promising things about this team. And yes, many of those good and promising things are on the defense.

[PHOG]

https://c.tenor.com/GHKwU6bPKPIAAAAM/flies-poop.gif

[threebag]

He's only still on the team this year because they couldn't trade him with his current contract and if they cut him the dead money hit (21 mil) would count against the cap.

Fuck him and his 21 million, the piece of shit is a waste of a fucking roster spot. Maybe Dieter wouldn’t have retired if he had a roster spot…. Fucking Frank “part -time” Clark piece of shit.


Can’t contain, gets swallowed up or just runs himself out of the play, but once and a while he will surprise and make a play. It’s puzzling as fuck.

[-King-]

Any day huh...

[staylor26]

Any day huh...

Umm mini-camp was over on Thursday...

[-King-]

Umm mini-camp was over on Thursday...
And he still hasn't had his baby that he just had to miss all 3 days of mini camp for.

[staylor26]

And he still hasn't had his baby that he just had to miss all 3 days of mini camp for.

Are you sure about that? It seems possible that he has.

Maybe you should look into it and report to Andy/Veach about it. Get to the bottom of this. Demand answers.

[-King-]

Are you sure about that? It seems possible that he has.

Maybe you should look into it and report to Andy/Veach about it. Get to the bottom of this. Demand answers.
Mmmm....nahhh.

[threebag]

Hope he’s riding around with an uzi in his car again. Ready for this POS to start stealing money from another Organization.

[TwistedChief]

And he still hasn't had his baby that he just had to miss all 3 days of mini camp for.

Said another way:

"Frank Clark should've had his wife induced so he could attend mini-camp." /King

[Dunerdr]

We didnt even know she was pregnant why would we expect to know the child was born?

[-King-]

Said another way:

"Frank Clark should've had his wife induced so he could attend mini-camp." /King

Seems like you're projecting. All that means is that he skipped 3 days of mini camp and 5 days after the last day of camp, baby still isn't here.

[-King-]

We didnt even know she was pregnant why would we expect to know the child was born?
Marty has sources at all hospitals. He told me.

[TwistedChief]

Seems like you're projecting. All that means is that he skipped 3 days of mini camp and 5 days after the last day of camp, baby still isn't here.

If the baby were here, would that make it more acceptable? Do you realize how childbirth works? You probably still think there's a stork involved, no?

[-King-]

If the baby were here, would that make it more acceptable? Do you realize how childbirth works? You probably still think there's a stork involved, no?

No but I've never heard of any man taking a week off work because his baby is due "any day". I certainly didn't. Don't know other players that did either and I don't think frank is the first player to ever have a baby on the way.

But when you're Frank Clark, the world is your oyster.

[TwistedChief]

No but I've never heard of any man taking a week off work because his baby is due "any day". I certainly didn't. Don't know other players that did either and I don't think frank is the first player to ever have a baby on the way.

But when you're Frank Clark, the world is your oyster.

It's practice in the offseason, dude. This isn't missing games.

How often do you pay attention to players' paternity leaves?

[-King-]

It's practice in the offseason, dude. This isn't missing games.

How often do you pay attention to players' paternity leaves?

All the time. Got a calendar for each birth and ovulation period.

[TwistedChief]

All the time. Got a calendar for each birth and ovulation period.

That actually makes a lot of sense given your history of heavy ovulation. We all now are on the same page.

[-King-]

That actually makes a lot of sense given your history of heavy ovulation. We all now are on the same page.
Exactly. Glad to have you on board.

[ChiefsFanatic]

I would agree. They pay this man enough money that he can have his pregnant girl there by him in KC so he could just run off when it is time. If the baby is due any day, she isn't working or anything.
As much as I loathe him and the majority of his performance in his time here I will always say it was worth it for his amazing presence in the 2019 postseason but... with that said this has got to be the last year to deal with this guy half-assing his way through another season.He doesn't own the Woman. She is entitled to live anywhere she wants, and have her baby anywhere she wants.

A person isn't a possession that he can bring and just keep in his locker, FFS

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[FloridaMan88]

Well this prediction didn’t exactly play out… from back in April at the start of the Chiefs’ OTA’s:

Link: https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-begin-voluntary-portion-offseason-144308170.html

Some players will be highly motivated to get back into action in Kansas City, with workout bonus money attached to their contracts. Chiefs DE Frank Clark, for instance, has a league-high $1.25 million workout bonus per ESPN’s Field Yates.

Expect Clark to be one of the first ones at team facilities as a result.

Frank Clark showed up for exactly zero of the Chiefs’ OTA’s.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

We cut this POS yet?

[In58men]

Didn’t he have a baby and took some time off?

[KCUnited]

His baby likely got blocked by a tight end

[FloridaMan88]

Didn’t he have a baby and took some time off?

Apparently Frank's baby is coming out about as slowly as him moving towards Josh Allen or Joe Burrow in last year's playoffs.

[saphojunkie]

The same people complaining that Clark is overpaid are also complaining that the Chiefs saved $1.25M on him not showing up in June.

[DJ's left nut]

The same people complaining that Clark is overpaid are also complaining that the Chiefs saved $1.25M on him not showing up in June.

The people complaining that he's overpaid are complaining because he shouldn't be under contract AT ALL.

They should've cut his ass.

[GloucesterChief]

The people complaining that he's overpaid are complaining because he shouldn't be under contract AT ALL.

They should've cut his ass.

They saved more money on restructure than by cutting him so.:shrug:

[DJ's left nut]

They saved more money on restructure than by cutting him so.:shrug:

No they didn't.

But keep slurping that nonsense up and flat-ass ignoring the math.

Some idiot on Arrowhead Pride will gladly feed you bad numbers anytime you'd like.

The Chiefs took on around $8 million in additional and unnecessary liabilities over the next 2 years by restructuring him vs. cutting him. The didn't save shit.

This is going to become the "he's just doing his job" memorial nonsensical justification for Frank Clark's bullshit all season, isn't it?

[TEX]

The people complaining that he's overpaid are complaining because he shouldn't be under contract AT ALL.

They should've cut his ass.

Exactly the case.

[irafreak]

At what point can we officially put Frank Clark in the infamous list of all time chiefs hated players? Build him a statue next to Cassell, the kicker that shall not be named, and grbac . ...is eric winston in that group? Todd Blackledge?

[-King-]

The same people complaining that Clark is overpaid are also complaining that the Chiefs saved $1.25M on him not showing up in June.

I mean he should have never had the opportunity to earn that in the first place... Him not coming to camp just reinforces that.

[RunKC]

At what point can we officially put Frank Clark in the infamous list of all time chiefs hated players? Build him a statue next to Cassell, the kicker that shall not be named, and grbac . ...is eric winston in that group? Todd Blackledge?

He’s not. Players like Dee Ford lost us a shot at our first super bowl appearance of our lives and Frank Clark was a key component to winning one for us a year later

[TwistedChief]

This is going to become the "he's just doing his job" memorial nonsensical justification for Frank Clark's bullshit all season, isn't it?

It's just as likely as your pretending to be in the minority of people here who think Frank Clark sucks and no longer want him on the team.

[kccrow]

At what point can we officially put Frank Clark in the infamous list of all time chiefs hated players? Build him a statue next to Cassell, the kicker that shall not be named, and grbac . ...is eric winston in that group? Todd Blackledge?

He's not worth his contract but he's not on that level of suck.

[notorious]

The same people complaining that Clark is overpaid are also complaining that the Chiefs saved $1.25M on him not showing up in June.

My god.

I can't imagine giving up that kind of money not to be somewhere.

[kccrow]

My god.

I can't imagine giving up that kind of money not to be somewhere.

If your boss offered you a bonus of 5% of your annual income to be somewhere for a week, I think most would take it. That's not even considering that, in Frank's case, it's enough for me to retire comfortably.

[notorious]

If your boss offered you a bonus of 5% of your annual income to be somewhere for a week, I think most would take it. That's not even considering that, in Frank's case, it's enough for me to retire comfortably.

Exactly.

He gave up roughly 10%.

He must be a colossal moron.

[Sassy Squatch]

At what point can we officially put Frank Clark in the infamous list of all time chiefs hated players? Build him a statue next to Cassell, the kicker that shall not be named, and grbac . ...is eric winston in that group? Todd Blackledge?
Lol no. Dude played a big part in our Championship run, especially against the Texans. Had a monster game sans Chris Jones.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Lol no. Dude played a big part in our Championship run, especially against the Texans. Had a monster game sans Chris Jones.

People can whine, cry, and stomp their feet all they want but they don't win that title without him.

[Titty Meat]

No they didn't.

But keep slurping that nonsense up and flat-ass ignoring the math.

Some idiot on Arrowhead Pride will gladly feed you bad numbers anytime you'd like.

The Chiefs took on around $8 million in additional and unnecessary liabilities over the next 2 years by restructuring him vs. cutting him. The didn't save shit.

This is going to become the "he's just doing his job" memorial nonsensical justification for Frank Clark's bullshit all season, isn't it?

We got alot of shit going off on Veach for that dumbass move. When you watch Clark half ass it while the QB is running for a first down in a playoff game its truly baffling why he was brought back. Then he doesn't show up to mini camp. First it was he's working out on his own then it's a child being born. This guy has cashed in and then some.

[Titty Meat]

It's just as likely as your pretending to be in the minority of people here who think Frank Clark sucks and no longer want him on the team.

Look at the reactions when it was announced he was coming back. People pretended we were saving a considerable amount of money by doing so.

[TwistedChief]

Look at the reactions when it was announced he was coming back. People pretended we were saving a considerable amount of money by doing so.

Someone start a poll whether asking people are happy Frank Clark is on the team.

What's your best guess? 95% or so answering "no"?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

It's hard to believe he'll be on the team for another two years. Maybe he'll surprise us and I'll hit the jackpot at the casino. That would be nice.

[threebag]

Didn’t he have a baby and took some time off?

Seems taking time/plays off is the Frank part-time Clark way.

[threebag]

The same people complaining that Clark is overpaid are also complaining that the Chiefs saved $1.25M on him not showing up in June.

I think it’s more he FUCKING SUCKS than what he’s paid. Fuck him

[Eleazar]

Lol no. Dude played a big part in our Championship run, especially against the Texans. Had a monster game sans Chris Jones.

Clark's story will be one of underachievement, but he had a big impact during the Super Bowl run. 3 sacks in the Texans game, got the sack to seal the win against the Titans, got a crucial sack in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Do we win the Bowl without him? Maybe, but he definitely showed up that postseason.

[RealSNR]

Do we win the Super Bowl with Justin Houston instead of Frank Clark?

[irafreak]

Lol no. Dude played a big part in our Championship run, especially against the Texans. Had a monster game sans Chris Jones.

Judging by this thread, it sure seems like he's up there. This thread is like a giant game day thread though so...

[-King-]

Someone start a poll whether asking people are happy Frank Clark is on the team.

What's your best guess? 95% or so answering "no"?

So why when I pointed out that re-signing him, especially when you're taking on a bigger cap hit is a terrible idea did you argue with me?

[TwistedChief]

So why when I pointed out that re-signing him, especially when you're taking on a bigger cap hit is a terrible idea did you argue with me?

Because I give the GM (not to mention HOF head coach) who has guided this team well the leeway to make decisions like this. All of your whining was in the context of the Hill trade and my point was that I'll reserve judgment until I've seen the entire Veach plan play out. And that was never something that we'd be able to figure out prior to the draft when you were at your most obnoxious crying about a falling sky.

[-King-]

Because I give the GM (not to mention HOF head coach) who has guided this team well the leeway to make decisions like this. All of your whining was in the context of the Hill trade and my point was that I'll reserve judgment until I've seen the entire Veach plan play out. And that was never something that we'd be able to figure out prior to the draft when you were at your most obnoxious crying about a falling sky.
What does the Hill trade have to do with Frank Clark? Why the hell do you always bring it up? What a weird response.

And you can judge individual moves without seeing the entire plan play out ya know.

[ThaVirus]

Do we win the Super Bowl with Justin Houston instead of Frank Clark?

I think so, yes.

Hell, we were so close the year prior. If it weren't for Dee Ford lining up offsides, I think we have a good shot of taking the trophy against the Rams.

[TwistedChief]

What does the Hill trade have to do with Frank Clark? Why the hell do you always bring it up? What a weird response.

And you can judge individual moves without seeing the entire plan play out ya know.

Apparently you don't remember the conversation. You kept complaining about the Hill trade and how are offense would be worse. And my response - over and over again - was that we needed to look at the Hill trade holistically in the context of the entire team and the flexibility it gave us with the draft and cap in future seasons. And then you pivoted to complaining about Clark and how the cap space we got from Hill wasn't meaningful because Clark was still on the team, etc.

[-King-]

Apparently you don't remember the conversation. You kept complaining about the Hill trade and how are offense would be worse. And my response - over and over again - was that we needed to look at the Hill trade holistically in the context of the entire team and the flexibility it gave us with the draft and cap in future seasons. And then you pivoted to complaining about Clark and how the cap space we got from Hill wasn't meaningful because Clark was still on the team, etc.

I had a problem with Clark coming back when he was re-signed.....which was more than a week before Tyreek was traded.


So...wtf are you talking about?

[scho63]

Did we sign this POS yet?

[TwistedChief]

I had a problem with Clark coming back when he was re-signed.....which was more than a week before Tyreek was traded.


So...wtf are you talking about?

Did I argue with you about Frank Clark in that thread the week before the Hill trade? If not, wtf are you talking about?

[TEX]

I think so, yes.

Hell, we were so close the year prior. If it weren't for Dee Ford lining up offsides, I think we have a good shot of taking the trophy against the Rams.

No doubt that year we could have.

[-King-]

Did I argue with you about Frank Clark in that thread the week before the Hill trade? If not, wtf are you talking about?

I don't know. I just know that I would bring up frank Clark and you'd start talking about Tyreek hill for some reason. As if I only had a problem with the Clark signing because of the Hill trade. Just like now.

[TwistedChief]

I don't know. I just know that I would bring up frank Clark and you'd start talking about Tyreek hill for some reason. As if I only had a problem with the Clark signing because of the Hill trade. Just like now.

Please find these posts for context.

[Hammock Parties]

loser

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs announce that DE Frank Clark will not practice today because of an illness.<br><br>Everybody else will practice.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1567917540097069060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[kcclone]

Good grief

[New World Order]

loser

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs announce that DE Frank Clark will not practice today because of an illness.<br><br>Everybody else will practice.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1567917540097069060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Was it confirmed that he has Crohn's?

[MIAdragon]

Was it confirmed that he has Crohn's?

No he just sucks.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Good, more snaps for Karlufa gus.

[In58men]

Chiefs obviously know about his stomach issues and still signed him. Yet, some of you are panicking and being overly dramatic.

[ChiefsCountry]

Was it confirmed that he has Crohn's?

Crohn's is a shitty disease. I know haha nice pun as well but it is. Friend of mine who was a D1 athlete has it. He went from a chiseled 210 down to 130 because of it.

[louie aguiar]

Dude is always sick. Maybe this is why they kept Kaindoh and Herring. They know they can’t count on Frank.