Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Smith2Bench]

youtube.com/watch?v=qBl79e7pnA8

[Smith2Bench]

youtube.com/watch?v=MwVQnaXrSug

[Frosty]

LMAO

http://i.imgur.com/Xc7rV.gif

Ouch. :eek:

[Hammock Parties]

youtube.com/watch?v=qBl79e7pnA8

Alex Cassel!

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexcassel.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexcassel2.gif

[RunKC]

I'm trying to figure out which one of Clayton's family members Alex Smith raped?

Such hatred.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm trying to figure out which one of Clayton's family members Alex Smith raped?

Such hatred.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

I'm just thankful Alex Smith doesn't have any footage as stellar as 2008 Matt Cassel. Because I loved me some 2008 Matt Cassel.

Alex Smith WISHES he had a season with 3600 yards passing.

[Walrus]

VIDEO

NICE. PBJ:rockon::drool:

We will see that every game next year. :drool:

[Walrus]

Elite QB for a 2nd rounder? What a robbery by the Chiefs.

:thumb:

[RunKC]

If you think Alex Smith is Matt Cassel, then you clearly don't know about or watch Alex Smith.

[Hammock Parties]

If you think Alex Smith is Matt Cassel, then you clearly don't know about or watch Alex Smith.

They're not the same guy, they just come from the same mother.

[Walrus]

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

I'm just thankful Alex Smith doesn't have any footage as stellar as 2008 Matt Cassel. Because I loved me some 2008 Matt Cassel.

Alex Smith WISHES he had a season with 3600 yards passing.

Smith had a rating of 100 and a 70% completion last year.

:spock:

[Hammock Parties]

Smith had a rating of 100 and a 70% completion last year.

:spock:

QB rating and completion percentage are often used to prop up mediocre QBs.

[Walrus]

QB rating and completion percentage are often used to prop up mediocre QBs.

Alex Smith was drafted 1st overall and Matt Cassel was drafted in the 7th round. Obviously Smith has more talent because he was worthy of the 1st overall pick. Maybe he is finally putting it together and becoming a good QB?

PBJ

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Alex Smith was drafted 1st overall and Matt Cassel was drafted in the 7th round. Obviously Smith has more talent because he was worthy of the 1st overall pick. Maybe he is finally putting it together and becoming a good QB?

PBJ

Yep, that's it alright!
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[Setsuna]

They're not the same guy, they just come from the same mother.

The mother named Mediocrity. She is a real whore.

[Dixie Land]

QB rating and completion percentage are often used to prop up mediocre QBs.

Smith is mediocre at QB.....get out!!!! this is too funny ROFL

[Hammock Parties]

Holy SHIT. Holy FUCKING SHIT.

http://i.imgur.com/Nzuguy6.jpg

[Dixie Land]

[QUOTE=Go to Hell;9456476]Holy SHIT. Holy ****ING SHIT.



Yeah the WR's prob hate Alex checkdown Smith...skews their numbers horribly...what does he average like 160 yards passing a game?

[Ming the Merciless]

Smith had a rating of 100 and a 70% completion last year.

:spock:

he didnt even play a whole year, spazz

[Smith2Bench]

lol Crabtree loves the benching.

IF you guys think Bowe is a head case now, wait until he runs wide open and doesn't sniff the ball

[Walrus]

he didnt even play a whole year, spazz

You're right. Can you imagine his 2012 numbers in a full season? 3,000+ yards, 70% completion, 100+ rating, 20+ touchdowns, and less than 10 interceptions. :drool:

M-V-P like numbers! :D

We got a good one! :rockon:

[Frosty]

You're right. Can you imagine his 2012 numbers in a full season? 3,000+ yards, 70% completion, 100+ rating, 20+ touchdowns, and less than 10 interceptions. :drool:

M-V-P like numbers! :D

We got a good one! :rockon:

3000 yards? Oooh - I'm all a-tingle.

[Walrus]

3000 yards? Oooh - I'm all a-tingle.

Well for the Chiefs he is going to throw more(I assume). So 4,000+ with the other numbers likely the same next year for us! Good right? :)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

lol Crabtree loves the benching.

IF you guys think Bowe is a head case now, wait until he runs wide open and doesn't sniff the ball

Thats nothing new I'm afraid....
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[KurtCobain]

Well for the Chiefs he is going to throw more(I assume). So 4,000+ with the other numbers likely the same next year for us! Good right? :)

Sounds good to me.

[ChiefsCountry]

lol Crabtree loves the benching.

IF you guys think Bowe is a head case now, wait until he runs wide open and doesn't sniff the ball

Bowe is used to that since he came in the league in 2007.

[whoman69]

Two winning seasons out of seven. Two head coaches fired. One 3000 yard season. Lost his starting job how many times? Tell me again why this is a good move?

[BigBeauford]

Two winning seasons out of seven. Two head coaches fired. One 3000 yard season. Lost his starting job how many times? Tell me again why this is a good move?

His kicker David Akers also set their club single season record in scoring during Smith's "magical" 2011 season.

[Dixie Land]

Two winning seasons out of seven. Two head coaches fired. One 3000 yard season. Lost his starting job how many times? Tell me again why this is a good move?

NO 1.5 winning seasons.

5 coaches fired

Benched for 8 different backups =not even starter caliber QB's

They kept trying to play him and justify because he was a #1 overall draft pick that they wasted 60MILLION on ... 49ers kept trying to get a Return On Investment and it never happened, so when he got concussed they took the easy train out and started Kaepernick...

Welcome Kansas Shitty....:banghead:

[Dixie Land]

His kicker David Akers also set their club single season record in scoring during Smith's "magical" 2011 season.

And the D was ranked #1 in almost all categories. Holding opposing teams to under 24 points a game...any more than 24 points and this dude crumbles...Not a high scoring passer, just a checkdown marvel..

[Frosty]

Well for the Chiefs he is going to throw more(I assume). So 4,000+ with the other numbers likely the same next year for us! Good right? :)

There is no proof whatsoever that he is capable of that.

[Messier]

And the D was ranked #1 in almost all categories. Holding opposing teams to under 24 points a game...any more than 24 points and this dude crumbles...Not a high scoring passer, just a checkdown marvel..

Except in the playoffs.

Everyone's been throwing out this 24 points stat, like only a sucky QB would lose so much when getting scored 24 or more points on. I'd like to know what the league average wins v. Losses when the opponents score 24 or more. I'll Bet almost everyone loses more than they win those games.

[TribalElder]

Two winning seasons out of seven. Two head coaches fired. One 3000 yard season. Lost his starting job how many times? Tell me again why this is a good move?

It was not a good move

[Hootie]

just for the record

if Clay wanted to, he could go find probably 20+ plays and make .gifs to make it look like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady were Matt Cassel-esque

[Setsuna]

just for the record

if Clay wanted to, he could go find probably 20+ plays and make .gifs to make it look like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady were Matt Cassel-esque

It's true but they have won a Super Bowl. OH soo you're comparing Alex Smith to 2 HoF. I now see the depth of your stupidity. It runs deeper than a black hole. What a tool you are. Like any sane person would ever think those 2 QBs are like Cassel. GTFO now! AND STFU. Leave this thread for the intelligent people not you blowhard, take it in the ass loving ninnies.

[Hootie]

LMAO

that one flew right over your head, eh?

you can post three .gifs from the Falcons/Broncos game in the 1st quarter that make Peyton Manning look like a poor man's Damon Huard.

I also, in no way, shape or form suggested a person would think Tom Brady or Peyton Manning compare to Matt Cassel.

it was a pretty simple point

every QB has bad plays...posting .gifs and saying "look! see!" is a terrible way to try and make your point

you can post 30 great Matt Cassel plays and be like "wow, what a QB."

[YayMike]

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After watching that video...I'm not sure that Cassel makes even half of those throws. Again, i'm not in favor of the Smith trade, and i really wanted Geno, but I think Smith is going to be a LOT better then we are used to so much better that the rest of the team will play to its talent level, and we might be able to make some noise in the AFCW.

Now, draft Geno to be groomed, and i'm one happy motherfucker.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

OMGz he can beat Buffalo!!

[whoman69]

I'm still convinced we got the wrong Smith.

[Walrus]

There is no proof whatsoever that he is capable of that.

He has been getting better every year, so let's hope he has a monster season next year in a Chiefs uniform! :thumb:

[Walrus]

I'm still convinced we got the wrong Smith.

Troy Smith is playing in the UFL. We didn't need him. :thumb:

[58-4ever]

Now all we need is a Vernon Davis.

[Thig Lyfe]

Goddamn I wish Smith had stayed healthy and fluked into a Super Bowl win so SF would be forced into giving him a Flacco deal...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's all tattoo boy's fault

[redsurfer11]

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexcassel.gif



The same thing could have been said about Len Dawson in 1960. The Browns and Steelers both let him go. Hank Stram knew of his potential and corrected his flaws. Andy Reid sees something in Alex Smith. I'll give it a few years to see if it pans out.

[PaulAllen]

The same thing could have been said about Len Dawson in 1960. The Browns and Steelers both let him go. Hank Stram knew of his potential and corrected his flaws. Andy Reid sees something in Alex Smith. I'll give it a few years to see if it pans out.

1960! LMAO

[Thig Lyfe]

The same thing could have been said about Len Dawson in 1960. The Browns and Steelers both let him go. Hank Stram knew of his potential and corrected his flaws. Andy Reid sees something in Alex Smith. I'll give it a few years to see if it pans out.

Fuck you.

[okcchief]

Goddamn I wish Smith had stayed healthy and fluked into a Super Bowl win so SF would be forced into giving him a Flacco deal...

QB injuries always seem to come back to fuck us. Montana being the only exception.

[Messier]

A few gifs of bad throws?

Case closed.

ROFL

[Walrus]

Hmm... There is going to be a lot of crow eating once Smith takes us to 11-5 and a wildcard spot. Go Chiefs!:rockon:

[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

that one flew right over your head, eh?

you can post three .gifs from the Falcons/Broncos game in the 1st quarter that make Peyton Manning look like a poor man's Damon Huard.

I also, in no way, shape or form suggested a person would think Tom Brady or Peyton Manning compare to Matt Cassel.

it was a pretty simple point

every QB has bad plays...posting .gifs and saying "look! see!" is a terrible way to try and make your point

you can post 30 great Matt Cassel plays and be like "wow, what a QB."

Did you even see the Crabtree graphic?

We KNOW Alex Smith is shitty. This is just more evidence piling up.

[Messier]

Goddamn I wish Smith had stayed healthy and fluked into a Super Bowl win so SF would be forced into giving him a Flacco deal...

Yeah. If they had won the SB with Smith, you'd say keep that trash away from here.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Brodie Croyle wishes he could have been 19-50.

[Thig Lyfe]

Hmm... There is going to be a lot of crow eating once Smith takes us to 11-5 and a wildcard spot. Go Chiefs!:rockon:

No, there's not. Cassel "took us" to 10-6 and an AFC West title and a fucking embarrassing playoff loss and he was still the worst goddamn QB in the NFL.

If we do that well, it's going to be because other players stepped up big time. And the odds of us doing any better than a playoff loss are pretty slim with a mediocre chump like Smith at QB.

[Thig Lyfe]

Yeah. If they had won the SB with Smith, you'd say keep that trash away from here.

If you were paying attention, you would.

[Thig Lyfe]

A few gifs of bad throws?

Case closed.

ROFL

Also shit tons of stats and a well-documented history of utter mediocrity.

Stop trying to convince yourself that Alex Smith is anywhere close to the answer.

[Hammock Parties]

Except in the playoffs.

Everyone's been throwing out this 24 points stat, like only a sucky QB would lose so much when getting scored 24 or more points on. I'd like to know what the league average wins v. Losses when the opponents score 24 or more. I'll Bet almost everyone loses more than they win those games.

I've already fucking told you idiots.

Joe Flacco won 4 games against teams that scored 24+ last season ALONE.

Even Matt Cassel has done it 7 times in his career.

When you do it 2 times in 7 fucking years YOU SUCK.

[PaulAllen]

HAI GUYZ LETS JUST PLAY LIKE THEY DID IN 1960! CASE CLOSED!

[Hammock Parties]

You know who's completely shitty and has more wins against teams that score 24+ points than Alex Smith?

RYAN FITZPATRICK. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FitzRy00/gamelog/)

[Mav]

You know who's completely shitty and has more wins against teams that score 24+ points than Alex Smith?

RYAN FITZPATRICK. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FitzRy00/gamelog/)

A team that is built through the defense and run game would lose games when they give up more than 24 points usually? Wow, thank god the 49ers didnt give up that many times in the past year and a half. becasue alex smith lost a total of 5 games........I believe you guys had lost that many by what late october last year?

[Thig Lyfe]

A team that is built through the defense and run game would lose games when they give up more than 24 points usually? Wow, thank god the 49ers didnt give up that many times in the past year and a half. becasue alex smith lost a total of 5 games........I believe you guys had lost that many by what late october last year?

Fuck you.

[Walrus]

No worries. Teams are going to have a hard time scoring 24+ points on our defense next season. We are going to improve in the draft. There is hope! :grovel:

[KurtCobain]

Fuck you.

Right up the ass.

[Hammock Parties]

A team that is built through the defense and run game would lose games when they give up more than 24 points usually? Wow, thank god the 49ers didnt give up that many times in the past year and a half. becasue alex smith lost a total of 5 games........I believe you guys had lost that many by what late october last year?

Hey, guess what?!!??

COLIN KAEPERNICK IS 3-1 AGAINST TEAMS THAT SCORE 24+ POINTS.

http://thegboatdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/8p10n.gif?w=479

[Hootie]

Did you even see the Crabtree graphic?

We KNOW Alex Smith is shitty. This is just more evidence piling up.

dude I was on the Kaepernick bandwagon from the get go...before everyone else...I predicted the 49ers would go to the Super Bowl on the premise that Kaepernick was VASTLY underrated. He transformed Crabtree into a flat out beast. Alex was doing a much better job of getting his receivers involved this year...something he didn't do well in 2011.

I hate this Alex Smith trade because of the ridiculous compensation. However, all you're doing is bending the facts to make it look like Smith is just as bad as Matt Cassel etc. etc. etc. It's ridiculous and it makes you look foolish.

Once Kaepernick took over, Vernon Davis had a stretch of like 6 weeks where he had a combined 3 catches or something silly like that. So I guess one could argue that since Kaepernick basically only targets Crabtree he is Cassel-esque because Cassel always threw it to Bowe.

[Walrus]

No, there's not. Cassel "took us" to 10-6 and an AFC West title and a ****ing embarrassing playoff loss and he was still the worst goddamn QB in the NFL.

If we do that well, it's going to be because other players stepped up big time. And the odds of us doing any better than a playoff loss are pretty slim with a mediocre chump like Smith at QB.

Cassel was a pro bowler in 2010. :spock:

[Messier]

Hey, guess what?!!??

COLIN KAEPERNICK IS 3-1 AGAINST TEAMS THAT SCORE 24+ POINTS.

http://thegboatdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/8p10n.gif?w=479

Hmm. That might be because Kaepernick is better.

[Thig Lyfe]

Cassel was a pro bowler in 2010. :spock:

FUCK YOU

GET THE FUCK OUT

GO KILL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW

[Hammock Parties]

So I guess one could argue that since Kaepernick basically only targets Crabtree he is Cassel-esque because Cassel always threw it to Bowe.

Yeah, see, no. No. Because Colin Kaepernick averaged 290 yards passing and rushing per game.

So no.

No.

[Hootie]

the last 6 regular season games Vernon Davis had 6 receptions (total) for 61 yards and 0 TDs. Kaepernick = Cassel because he only makes one read!!!!

So dumb.

I was on the GSIII bandwagon with everyone else. I listened to McShay on the radio the other day and no one else sees what we see. Obviously Andy Reid didn't see it and it's not like he's against taking QB's...he was booed off the stage when they made the controversial McNabb pick.

This board has been wrong about QB's before. Draft experts have been wrong about QB's before. McShay was the guy who said Clausen wouldn't be drafted in round 1 while Kiper stubbornly had him #3 on his big board and ranked over Sam Bradford.

Obviously, despite what kind of success Geno/Barkley MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, we (because we're the Chiefs) had to get the #1 pick the 1 year there was no stud QB prospect in the draft.

I know that sucks, and I know people are going to plug their ears with their fingers and scream "la la la la la la la" but clearly that's how the "experts" and even the teams view it.

I hate that we seemingly bid against ourselves (I could be wrong) to get Alex Smith...however, as I've said from the first day of this trade, if they don't extend him and make him play at least 1 year of his contract to determine what kind of QB Alex Smith REALLY is, and re-sign Bowe and Albert I'm willing to give the regime a shot before I resort to being a full fledged ChiefsPlanet drama queen.

[Walrus]

**** YOU

GET THE **** OUT

GO KILL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW

Woah...

I'm very optimistic because we have new coaches, new system, new QB and still have the draft. Feeling a very exciting season coming up for the Chiefs! Go Chiefs! ;)

[Mav]

Yeah, see, no. No. Because Colin Kaepernick averaged 290 yards passing and rushing per game.

So no.

No.

He has to average that. in every single playoff game it was his shitty play that led to the 49ers trailing in every single playoff game. it was his pick vs the packers that set the team back, it was his inability to pick up a first down that put them down vs the falcons, and it was his shitty play that led to the huge deficit against the ravens. Thats why he HAS to throw for that many yards. Alex Smith is a controlled based qb. He relies on the running game, thats why with him at qb this year, the 49ers led the league in rushing. he doesnt turn the ball over, he doesnt force anything. But, i mean according to your logic, you would rather have matt cassell because he isnt afraid to take risks. 37 turnovers your qbs had last year.

[Hootie]

Yeah, see, no. No. Because Colin Kaepernick averaged 290 yards passing and rushing per game.

So no.

No.

Colin Kaepernick is arguably the most talented QB in the NFL. Maybe ever. Can throw like Favre, run like Randall, and has a body that was chiseled by the God's themselves.

I don't think any of the people who are suggesting Smith >> Cassel are saying Smith >= to Kaepernick.

Kaepernick, if he continues working and gets a little better with reads and anticipation throws, can be the best QB in the NFL. Smith could never be that.

Everyone knows that.

It sucks, I wanted Geno Smith. I wanted a QB. I wanted our own QB. Not another castoff...that is a legit reason for anger/disappointment.

I don't need to pile on Alex Smith and pretend he's Matt Cassel version 2 though...because he isn't. I watch enough football to be able to form my own opinions on guys, though. I don't read what other people say and regurgitate it.

[Thig Lyfe]

Woah...

I'm very optimistic because we have new coaches, new system, new QB and still have the draft. Feeling a very exciting season coming up for the Chiefs! Go Chiefs! ;)

I sincerely hope a chimpanzee tears your face off and force feeds it to your family before tearing off all their faces and pushing them into an active volcano.

[Hootie]

He has to average that. in every single playoff game it was his shitty play

stopped reading right here

LMAO

Kaepernick was outstanding in the postseason...he did make ONE bad throw against Baltimore in the Super Bowl...

the defense put them in a hole against Atlanta...that one was NEVER on Kaepernick. Kaepernick single-handedly won them that game.

[Mav]

stopped reading right here

LMAO

Kaepernick was outstanding in the postseason...he did make ONE bad throw against Baltimore in the Super Bowl...

the defense put them in a hole against Atlanta...that one was NEVER on Kaepernick. Kaepernick single-handedly won them that game.

Kaep was a very slow starter in every playoff game. and ramped it up. there is no denying that. He was a second half beast though. Im not saying he is shitty. im saying he played shitty in the first halfs leading to him to have to produce those stats. Kaep is a young player with 10 starts, and everything you said is true. Hes a beast. Thats why he is the starter there and alex smith is the starter here. that doesnt make alex crap, it just makes kaep a boss.

[Thig Lyfe]

Kaep was a very slow starter in every playoff game. and ramped it up. there is no denying that. He was a second half beast though. Im not saying he is shitty. im saying he played shitty in the first halfs leading to him to have to produce those stats. Kaep is a young player with 10 starts, and everything you said is true. Hes a beast. Thats why he is the starter there and alex smith is the starter here. that doesnt make alex crap, it just makes kaep a boss.

It doesn't make Alex Smith crap, but Alex Smith is still crap.

[Kaepernick]

He has to average that. in every single playoff game it was his shitty play that led to the 49ers trailing in every single playoff game. it was his pick vs the packers that set the team back, it was his inability to pick up a first down that put them down vs the falcons, and it was his shitty play that led to the huge deficit against the ravens. Thats why he HAS to throw for that many yards. Alex Smith is a controlled based qb. He relies on the running game, thats why with him at qb this year, the 49ers led the league in rushing. he doesnt turn the ball over, he doesnt force anything. But, i mean according to your logic, you would rather have matt cassell because he isnt afraid to take risks. 37 turnovers your qbs had last year.

Snoopy, you are showing yourself to be not sane. Electro-shock therapy could help.

[Halfcan]

When Alex starts winning games- people will love him. Trent Green was very unpopular at first too.

[Thig Lyfe]

When Alex starts winning games- people will love him. Trent Green was very unpopular at first too.

im gonna puke

[Hammock Parties]

PFF chimes in.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/02/which-smith-are-the-chiefs-getting/

The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good



While Smith’s stats above took a major uptick starting in 2011, there were still some red flags. While his 70.2 completion percentage last season was impressive, it also showed his unwillingness to take chances and throw the ball downfield. His average depth of target of only 8 yards was the fourth-lowest of all quarterbacks and only 8.7 percent of Smith’s passes traveled 20+ yards downfield in 2012. Among quarterbacks who started at least half their games, only Christian Ponder had a lower percentage.

http://i.imgur.com/owaaxsC.jpg

Smith also led the NFL in 2011 by taking 44 sacks, and was sacked 24 times in nine starts in 2012 before being replaced by Kaepernick. Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

[SAUTO]

Yeah, see, no. No. Because Colin Kaepernick averaged 290 yards passing and rushing per game.

So no.

No. why add in rushing?
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[Hammock Parties]

Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

Smith - 33.3%
Cassel - 20.7%

[Hammock Parties]

why add in rushing?
Posted via Mobile Device

If Alex Smith was averaging 50 yards rushing per game I'd give him credit for that.

[Smith2Bench]

Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

Smith - 33.3%
Cassel - 20.7%

Yup. Bad pocket presence.

The Alexsexuals will attribute this to a poor Oline ans WRs not getting open.

They can't fathom the idea that a QB has to see and avoid pressure, even free rushers as much as they can. Obviously, you can't always win, but Smith rarely does anything if there is pressure and his #1 read is covered.

[Smith2Bench]

PFF chimes in.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/02/which-smith-are-the-chiefs-getting/

The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good


You just got Christian Ponder with better accuracy and a more experience.

[Setsuna]

You just got Christian Ponder with better accuracy and a more experience.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

[ThePhoenix11]

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix. :)

[Hammock Parties]

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

[ThePhoenix11]

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

Would you rather have your QB get sacked or have him force passes and throw INTs. Look at Kaepernick's numbers, he is the same way. They're coached to take the sacks and not force INTs. Harbaugh has even made that public

Your sig is also ignorant as hell. For many reasons that I don't know where to start.

[Hammock Parties]

Colin Kaepernick was sacked once every 13 pass attempts.

Alex Smith was sacked once every 9 pass attempts.

Totally the same!

[B_Ambuehl]

Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want?

Jason Campbell and Matt Moore are probably just as good and wouldn't have cost anything. Chase McDanielz is an RFA and people around here likely wouldn't have been too upset if Reid made a run at him. It's not so much Alex Smith people are against it's what they gave up to get him. If they had given up a 3rd round pick you'd probably see a lot more people on board.

[Smith2Bench]

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix. :)

haha don't let this guy fool you. He just listed a bunch of attributes you would describe as if he were a rookie getting drafted. Any awards? Any rings? NFL records? Division titles? NAw, he's smart ans athletic!

He's good for 1.1 TD passes in his last several years.

[Hammock Parties]

Matt Moore and Alex Smith had almost identical PFF passer ratings in 2011.

He was also 4th in the league in percentage of attempts over 20 yards. Alex was 28th.

The only thing I can see that Alex Smith has over Matt Moore is knowledge of the WCO.

[Thig Lyfe]

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix. :)

Fuck you.

[ThePhoenix11]

**** you.

lol really? how awesome I get a "fuck you" reply after my first post. I must be doing something right

[Thig Lyfe]

lol really? how awesome I get a "fuck you" reply after my first post. I must be doing something right

The only thing you could do right is stop breathing.

[Hammock Parties]

Jesus Christ, Alex.

http://i.imgur.com/ROpf6Mv.gif

[Direckshun]

Jesus Christ, Alex.

http://i.imgur.com/ROpf6Mv.gif

LMAO

[houstonwhodat]

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexcassel.gif


You people make my day

[Setsuna]

The funny thing is, in most of these he has a clean pocket. It's literally Matt Cassel

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

Jesus Christ, Alex.



The niners played the Lions in 2011. Believe it was a Sunday night game on National TV. It was in Detroit, and the Lions were 6-0 at the time. Niners, 5-1. You might find the ending of that game interesting. Probably not, bc you are clearly rooting against your own team at this point. Anywoo, as you were :cuss:

P.s to the other MBer's:
Alex Smith threw a 4th and goal, come from behind touchdown to Delanie Walker to win the game.

[Thig Lyfe]

The niners played the Lions in 2011. Believe it was a Sunday night game on National TV. It was in Detroit, and the Lions were 6-0 at the time. Niners, 5-1. You might find the ending of that game interesting. Probably not, bc you are clearly rooting against your own team at this point. Anywoo, as you were :cuss:

P.s to the other MBer's:
Alex Smith threw a 4th and goal, come from behind touchdown to Delanie Walker to win the game.

Fuck you.

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

LMAO 1 point: go to hell

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

**** you.
How romantic. you sticking up for sugar daddy. :evil:

[Hootie]

Jesus Christ, Alex.

http://i.imgur.com/ROpf6Mv.gif

for the sake of being objective, why don't you post some of his good throws now, too.

The amount of sacks he takes is an alarming stat. That is worrisome.

The whole move gives this fan base no hope. That's the worst part of it.

[Setsuna]

for the sake of being objective, why don't you post some of his good throws now, too.

The amount of sacks he takes is an alarming stat. That is worrisome.

The whole move gives this fan base no hope. That's the worst part of it.

For the sake of not being stupid, lets remember that the Lions defense is led by Gunther. Now tell me again that defense shouldn't be getting torched every game with the talent the 49ers have. I'll wait....

[Dixie Land]

Yup. Bad pocket presence.

The Alexsexuals will attribute this to a poor Oline ans WRs not getting open.

They can't fathom the idea that a QB has to see and avoid pressure, even free rushers as much as they can. Obviously, you can't always win, but Smith rarely does anything if there is pressure and his #1 read is covered.

If his #1 read is covered its:

1. checkdown
2. roll right...throw to guy in black trench coat out of bounds
3. sack

As one noted, on most of the clippings he really has NO pressure he just looks panicky

Yes the Alexlovers always find a way to sugar coat his ineptitude as a starting QB in the NFL...

[Dixie Land]

Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

Smith - 33.3%
Cassel - 20.7%

Yeah and whats scary is the OL of the Niners IS GOOD...imagine a shoddy OL with Smith at the wheel....:huh:

[Hootie]

For the sake of not being stupid, lets remember that the Lions defense is led by Gunther. Now tell me again that defense shouldn't be getting torched every game with the talent the 49ers have. I'll wait....

first off, that was a 2011 highlight (or maybe even prior)

this year (against the Lions) he had a QBR of 80 (that's really good) and 2 TD's and 0 turnovers. He threw for 226 yards in a week 2 win.

secondly, if this is the game you want to play, I promise you I'm better.

Alex Smith went 18-19 against the Arizona Cardinals @ Arizona. He played a perfect game. 4 TD's. 0 turnovers. QBR of 92.

TOM BRADY PLAYED AT HOME AGAINST THIS SAME CARDINALS TEAM. HE HAD A QBR OF 30.

THEREFORE

ALEX SMITH > TOM BRADY

in other words:

you're and idiot

[Setsuna]

Yeah and whats scary is the OL of the Niners IS GOOD...imagine a shoddy OL with Smith at the wheel....:huh:

Pretty soon Reid will be double fisting Albert AND Jackal! Holla! :doh!:

[Dixie Land]

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

Except to the other team....No Alex is not mobile....very stiff and mechanical...too cerebral...NOT a backyard improv type of QB HELL NO>>>one read hurry and dump it off...I really have a hard time describing this guy....absolutely fantastic on the 3-4 yard dumpoff.....Dumpoff Smiff thats it...

:evil:

[Hootie]

seriously

I've already stated what I think Alex Smith is. He is somewhere between a Dilfer and Green with Dilfer being his basement and Green being his absolute ceiling.

but honestly

you can twist stats, games, EVERYTHING to tell any story you want to tell.

I just told one of the Alex Smith stories that made him look better than Tom Brady. It's fucking stupid. You can't play the 'Gunther defense' game because it's too easy to destroy.

Arizona had a very good pass defense this year. Alex Smith ON PAPER torched them. If you watched the game, you'd know he made very good passes and on his TD's his receivers made good plays that turned good throws into long touchdowns. It was a more impressive game on paper than it really was even though he did manage to put up a near perfect QBR game (no, not traditional QB rating...QBR)

so you guys are being ridiculous

GOATSE is going and cherry picking terrible Alex Smith plays and yelling "SEE! SEE! CASSEL!"

when you could literally do that for any QB in the NFL...even Aaron Rodgers!

You could make a 3 hour "highlight" film of Favre making some of the worst decisions/throws in the history of the NFL and he was still a very good NFL QB.

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

For the sake of not being stupid, lets remember that the Lions defense is led by Gunther. Now tell me again that defense shouldn't be getting torched every game with the talent the 49ers have. I'll wait....
LOL
bleacherreport.com/articles/1336863-49ers-vs-lions-biggest-winners-losers-for-san-francisco-in-nfl-week-2

bleacherreport.com/articles/1336863-49ers-vs-lions-biggest-winners-losers-for-san-francisco-in-nfl-week-2/page/5

bleacherreport.com/articles/1336863-49ers-vs-lions-biggest-winners-losers-for-san-francisco-in-nfl-week-2/page/7

since im a n00b, i cant post links yet. exciting times ahead.

[Setsuna]

first off, that was a 2011 highlight (or maybe even prior)

this year (against the Lions) he had a QBR of 80 (that's really good) and 2 TD's and 0 turnovers. He threw for 226 yards in a week 2 win.

secondly, if this is the game you want to play, I promise you I'm better.

Alex Smith went 18-19 against the Arizona Cardinals @ Arizona. He played a perfect game. 4 TD's. 0 turnovers. QBR of 92.

TOM BRADY PLAYED AT HOME AGAINST THIS SAME CARDINALS TEAM. HE HAD A QBR OF 30.

THEREFORE

ALEX SMITH > TOM BRADY

in other words:

you're and idiot
The point is, dipshit, you can't use any stats for Smith from any Lions games since their defense is absolute dog shit. Gunther has been there since 2009. Herp derp. You've seen Gunther's defenses first hand so I assumed you'd understand. Obviously you were in stasis from 2004-2008. Like talking to a wall...lacquered in antifreeze, teeming with AIDs.

TOM BRADY?? REALLY? Tom Brady has proven himself over and over again and is a first ballot HoF. You can't even mention them in the same breath as that's an insult to Brady. WTF are you smoking?

[Hootie]

oh, and, also from that Lions game dumbfuck...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1336863-49ers-vs-lions-biggest-winners-losers-for-san-francisco-in-nfl-week-2/page/7

lol lol lol

so I guess he did torch that Gunther defense...even though the point you were trying to make if he didn't was fucking stupid anyways

but that is to be expected with you...since you have the intelligence of a 12 year old (and not a gifted 12 year old; just a normal 12 year old)

[Hootie]

The point is, dipshit, you can't use any stats for Smith from any Lions games since their defense is absolute dog shit. Gunther has been there since 2009. Herp derp. You've seen Gunther's defenses first hand so I assumed you'd understand. Obviously you were in stasis from 2004-2008. Like talking to a wall...lacquered in antifreeze, teeming with AIDs.

TOM BRADY?? REALLY? Tom Brady has proven himself over and over again and is a first ballot HoF. You can't even mention them in the same breath as that's an insult to Brady. WTF are you smoking?

do you even read LMAO

honestly

you have the reading comprehension skills of a dyslexic mouth breather with AIDS

[Hootie]

Honestly...

he has to be one of the dumbest people I've ever encountered on this board

I hope he's trolling...because if not...my God...he needs to go back to basic elementary education classes

that's some TERRIBLE reading comprehension

[Thig Lyfe]

How romantic. you sticking up for sugar daddy. :evil:

I don't even know what this means. I do know that I'd very much prefer you were no longer alive after trying to pass off Alex Smith as a good QB.

[Dixie Land]

The point is, dipshit, you can't use any stats for Smith from any Lions games since their defense is absolute dog shit.
TOM BRADY?? REALLY? Tom Brady has proven himself over and over again and is a first ballot HoF. You can't even mention them in the same breath as that's an insult to Brady. WTF are you smoking?

THIS times 1000

[Chiefnj2]

I can't fathom whynanyone thinks Smith is really an upgrade over Cassel.

Remember how last year everyone thought Cassel was the king of check downs and dink and dunk? Compared to Smith, Cassel is an aerial king.

In 9 games last year Cassel threw 69 passes between 11 and 20 yards.
Smith in 10 games? 39 attempts.

Cassel had 26 attempts from 20-30 yards.
Smith had 8.

Smith's "impressive" numbers were solely the result of being on the shortest leash in NFL history.

[Thig Lyfe]

I can't fathom whynanyone thinks Smith is really an upgrade over Cassel.


I guess going from worst to second-worst is technically an upgrade.

[Setsuna]

oh, and, also from that Lions game dumb****...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1336863-49ers-vs-lions-biggest-winners-losers-for-san-francisco-in-nfl-week-2/page/7

lol lol lol

so I guess he did torch that Gunther defense...even though the point you were trying to make if he didn't was ****ing stupid anyways

but that is to be expected with you...since you have the intelligence of a 12 year old (and not a gifted 12 year old; just a normal 12 year old)

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

My point is ANYONE will look good against that defense. Which means him doing well means absolutely SHIT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NOW FUCKSTICK?

[Hammock Parties]

Hey guys:

If Alex Smith was wearing 4 rings, what kind of rings would they be?

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Pioli sent flu laced blankets to all their opponents in 2010. Two weeks before they played the CHiefs. They would not fall for it again.

[Dixie Land]

I can't fathom whynanyone thinks Smith is really an upgrade over Cassel.

Remember how last year everyone thought Cassel was the king of check downs and dink and dunk? Compared to Smith, Cassel is an aerial king.

In 9 games last year Cassel threw 69 passes between 11 and 20 yards.
Smith in 10 games? 39 attempts.

Cassel had 26 attempts from 20-30 yards.
Smith had 8.

Smith's "impressive" numbers were solely the result of being on the shortest leash in NFL history.

TRUST me on this, the short leash if for a reason...

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hey guys:

If Alex Smith was wearing 4 rings, what kind of rings would they be?

Cock rings.

[Hootie]

THIS times 1000

I truly think Alex Smith is better than Tom Brady.

He proved it against the Cardinals. He is like 50 times better than Brady.

[Hootie]

The point is, dipshit, you can't use any stats for Smith from any Lions games since their defense is absolute dog shit. Gunther has been there since 2009. Herp derp. You've seen Gunther's defenses first hand so I assumed you'd understand. Obviously you were in stasis from 2004-2008. Like talking to a wall...lacquered in antifreeze, teeming with AIDs.

TOM BRADY?? REALLY? Tom Brady has proven himself over and over again and is a first ballot HoF. You can't even mention them in the same breath as that's an insult to Brady. WTF are you smoking?

which is why I spun your stats game and used the Cardinals as an example...you won't give credit for Smith playing well against Detroit because of Gunther but when he plays a perfect game on the road against a good pass defense (one that shut down Tom Brady in New England the same year) you won't give Smith any credit either...

the dude is an ok QB...he's between a Dilfer and a Green...that's not anything I'm looking forward to and for the 1000TH time...

I hate the move because we gave up WAY TOO MUCH and a fan base that was DESPERATE for hope was given NONE by this move that, at the very best, if we build a SUPER TEAM around Alex Smith...the best we can hope for is a wild card berth because Peyton Manning plays in our division. Horrible move.

[Dixie Land]

I truly think Alex Smith is better than Tom Brady.

He proved it against the Cardinals. He is like 50 times better than Brady.

OK wake up from your sleep your having a nightmare....or you ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE of an ALEXSEXUAL.....WOW nothing amazes me anymore...:banghead:

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Hootie vs. The Baters.

It has come fruition again.

[Hammock Parties]

Cock rings.

LMAO

Seriously, I need to put 4 rings on Alex Smith's fingers.

Give me something to work with here. Decoder rings?

[Setsuna]

which is why I spun your stats game and used the Cardinals as an example...you won't give credit for Smith playing well against Detroit because of Gunther but when he plays a perfect game on the road against a good pass defense (one that shut down Tom Brady in New England the same year) you won't give Smith any credit either...

the dude is an ok QB...he's between a Dilfer and a Green...that's not anything I'm looking forward to and for the 1000TH time...

I hate the move because we gave up WAY TOO MUCH and a fan base that was DESPERATE for hope was given NONE by this move that, at the very best, if we build a SUPER TEAM around Alex Smith...the best we can hope for is a wild card berth because Peyton Manning plays in our division. Horrible move.
Yes the Cards defense is good. That is the truth. I won't deny that. But I just told you that using Tom Brady as a talent gauge on Alex Smith is not wise and unwarranted. And you don't really believe Smith > Brady. You're just fucking with me with that one.

[Hootie]

OK wake up from your sleep your having a nightmare....or you ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE of an ALEXSEXUAL.....WOW nothing amazes me anymore...:banghead:

dude if you don't think Alex Smith is better than Tom Brady you are just a plain n00b

basically he's the 5th best QB in the NFL

Joe Flacco is #1
Peyton Manning is #2
Jay Cutler is #3
Ryan Tannehill is #4 (this one is close though)
and then Alex Smith at #5

Brady is like #18

he just can't get it done in big games

[Setsuna]

Nuvarings!

[Thig Lyfe]

LMAO

Seriously, I need to put 4 rings on Alex Smith's fingers.

Give me something to work with here. Decoder rings?

ROBOCOP

[Hootie]

Yes the Cards defense is good. That is the truth. I won't deny that. But I just told you that using Tom Brady as a talent gauge on Alex Smith is not wise and unwarranted. And you don't really believe Smith > Brady. You're just ****ing with me with that one.

I wasn't using it as anything other than a point to prove that you can't say "player X is bad because he didn't do this against [insert team here]"

Alex Smith played a great game against Arizona on the road. Tom Brady played a terrible game against that same team at home.

Tom Brady is 500,000 times the QB Alex Smith is.

I just think this thread is ridiculous. GOATSE is cherry picking terrible throws by Smith to try and show everyone how terrible he is but he could do the same thing for Tom Brady if he wanted to.

I guarantee you Tom Brady made AT THE VERY LEAST 30 terrible, .gif-able throws and you could make a thread and be like "OMG CASSEL JESUS"

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Smith is mediocre, but Hootie is right.

[Hammock Parties]

GOATSE is cherry picking terrible throws by Smith to try and show everyone how terrible he is but he could do the same thing for Tom Brady if he wanted to.


Sorry, but I have never, ever seen Tom Brady do something as stupid as this.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexsucks7.gif

[Mr. Flopnuts]

LMAO

Seriously, I need to put 4 rings on Alex Smith's fingers.

Give me something to work with here. Decoder rings?

Make 1 of them the ring from The Christmas Story. 1 of them the one true ring from LOTR. Another can be Green Lantern. Finally, go with something that has a daisy on it.

[TheUte]

[QUOTE=Go to Hell;9458177]Sorry, but I have never, ever seen Tom Brady do something as stupid as this.


Sorry But now you just proving how stupid with hatred you are.

Alex Smith set a record for most pass attempts without on INT.

Keep trying though, you keep lookin smarter and smarter.

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

I don't even know what this means. I do know that I'd very much prefer you were no longer alive after trying to pass off Alex Smith as a good QB.

I did nothing of the such. Dont speak for me. Nor have i even stated my opinion of Alex Smith. This place is like detention for dumb people. makes me feel smaht.

[Dixie Land]

dude if you don't think Alex Smith is better than Tom Brady you are just a plain n00b

basically he's the 5th best QB in the NFL

Joe Flacco is #1
Peyton Manning is #2
Jay Cutler is #3
Ryan Tannehill is #4 (this one is close though)
and then Alex Smith at #5

Brady is like #18

he just can't get it done in big games

TANNEHILL at #4 ..... smoke krak much???? that is a friggin joke

Hey now your a Tannehillsexual and an Alexsexual....congrats on the accomplishment douchebag...:LOL:

[Hootie]

Sorry, but I have never, ever seen Tom Brady do something as stupid as this.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexsucks7.gif

well then you're just a fucking moron

that isn't even that bad of a play...he was trying to throw his guy open

my fucking god this place has lost its mind

[Hootie]

TANNEHILL at #4 ..... smoke krak much???? that is a friggin joke

Hey now your a Tannehillsexual and an Alexsexual....congrats on the accomplishment douchebag...:LOL:

LMAO

Tannehill is easily better than Luck. We can at least agree to that, right?

[Dixie Land]

[QUOTE=Go to Hell;9458177]Sorry, but I have never, ever seen Tom Brady do something as stupid as this.


Sorry But now you just proving how stupid with hatred you are.

Alex Smith set a record for most pass attempts without on INT.

Keep trying though, you keep lookin smarter and smarter.

Yes sets record then gets head bashed and benched for the 8th time, then traded here...way to go....:doh!:

[hometeam]

Sorry But now you just proving how stupid with hatred you are.

Alex Smith set a record for most pass attempts without on INT.

Keep trying though, you keep lookin smarter and smarter.

Yea.. for SF.

Guess who holds the NFL record? Which is far beyond Smiths streak?

Tom Brady.

[Dixie Land]

LMAO

Tannehill is easily better than Luck. We can at least agree to that, right?

UUUMMMM....after much consideration,,,,HELL NO!!! sheeeeeeesh...do you like watch NFL games on tv while standing on your head???

[Dixie Land]

well then you're just a ****ing moron

that isn't even that bad of a play...he was trying to throw his guy open

my ****ing god this place has lost its mind

TRYING is the operative word here....#82 was wide friggin open and the ball was way way behind him...whats your point here,,,,no defenders anywhere nere Alex and he is scrambling like a chicken with their head cut off....????:thumb:

[Hootie]

UUUMMMM....after much consideration,,,,HELL NO!!! sheeeeeeesh...do you like watch NFL games on tv while standing on your head???

no, who would ever do that?

[Hammock Parties]

Winnar

http://photo.oempromo.com/Prod_165/Ring-Pop-Candy_14749527.jpg

[Hootie]

first off...Manningham wasn't wide open...#21 was going to destroy him if Smith threw him the ball

secondly, he wasn't throwing it to Manningham...it looks as if he was throwing it to Kyle Williams...who, for all we know, Smith expected to stop rather than run the same route 3 yards behind Manningham...

either way...that's just a normal incompletion

that is neither a bad play or a good play

just normal

[Hammock Parties]

that isn't even that bad of a play...he was trying to throw his guy open


it's pants-shitting excitement of the matt cassel variety, and nothing else.

[Dixie Land]

[QUOTE=Go to Hell;9458223]Winnar

Hey does the ring still work while homey is standing on his head???


ROFL

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

Just a heads up CP:
the sooner you guys figure out the entire 49ers message board is viewing this board, the sooner you will stop throwing out uneducated 49er stats. You can't compete with 9er obsessed fans on 9er factiods.

And when I say the entire 9er message board is viewing this board, I am not exaggerating. There is currently a thread: "Come here to laugh at the Chiefs"

Ps, the majority would like to see Alex, and therefore the chiefs, succeed (unless you are playing SF).

[Dixie Land]

first off...Manningham wasn't wide open...#21 was going to destroy him if Smith threw him the ball

secondly, he wasn't throwing it to Manningham...it looks as if he was throwing it to Kyle Williams...who, for all we know, Smith expected to stop rather than run the same route 3 yards behind Manningham...

either way...that's just a normal incompletion

that is neither a bad play or a good play

just normal

SO throwing it 10 yards from an open receiver is normal???? ha WTF???? I guess your are right, a horrible incompletion is normal coming from SMITH...:LOL:

[Hootie]

Tom Brady throws an incompletion like that probably about 5 times a game...just from the pocket because he doesn't often move from it

that's a 100% normal incompletion

you guys are ridiculous(ly) stupid

[Messier]

There won't be any good play gifs coming.

[Hootie]

I once saw the legendary Tom Brady drop back to pass on his first offensive play in a Super Bowl...launch it 50 yards down the field to absolutely no one in particular...and take a safety.

What a terrible QB.

[Hootie]

HE SHIT HIS PANTS MATT CASSEL STYLE! OMFG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB_x0nOMHKI

[Hammock Parties]

And when I say the entire 9er message board is viewing this board, I am not exaggerating. There is currently a thread: "Come here to laugh at the Chiefs"
.

Link?

[Thig Lyfe]

I did nothing of the such. Dont speak for me. Nor have i even stated my opinion of Alex Smith. This place is like detention for dumb people. makes me feel smaht.

IF YOU DO NOT STATE EXPLICITLY THAT ALEX SMITH SUCKS THEN YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT HE DOES NOT

THEREFORE FUCK YOU

[KurtCobain]

HE SHIT HIS PANTS MATT CASSEL STYLE! OMFG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB_x0nOMHKI

Wtf is up with the Barbie girl song?

[Hootie]

Wtf is yo with the Barbie girl song?

IDK I watched it on mute

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

IF YOU DO NOT STATE EXPLICITLY THAT ALEX SMITH SUCKS THEN YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT HE DOES NOT

THEREFORE **** YOU

That's right, **** me! oh wait

[Mav]

Link?

http://forums.49ers.com/showthread.php?t=143959&page=24

[Hootie]

I did nothing of the such. Dont speak for me. Nor have i even stated my opinion of Alex Smith. This place is like detention for dumb people. makes me feel smaht.

you shouldn't feel too smart

you don't even know how to tip properly at restaurants

[Hammock Parties]

http://forums.49ers.com/showthread.php?t=143959&page=24

It's bullshit I can't read this.

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

you shouldn't feel too smart

you don't even know how to tip properly at restaurants

Wahhhhh????

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

It's bullshit I can't read this.

LMAO

[Hootie]

Wahhhhh????

you have internet access on your porch?

[Mav]

It's bullshit I can't read this.

If you werent such a douche, id give you my user name and password and you could see it for yourself.

[KurtCobain]

IDK I watched it on mute

Lucky you.

[Hammock Parties]

OK, I registered and now I can read.

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

It's bullshit I can't read this.

The message board is so highly populated that it runs too slow if they allow non members to view. Therefore,.... sign up and laugh at our dbags.

[Hammock Parties]

WELCOME ALEX!

http://i.imgur.com/MwBEnUp.jpg

[DaFuq W DisPlace?!]

you have internet access on your porch?

go on

[Setsuna]

I'm probably going to ignore hootie. Some of the statements he makes are without sense.

[Hootie]

I'm probably going to ignore hootie. Some of the statements he makes are without sense.

I encourage this.

[Kaepernick]

It's bullshit I can't read this.

You have to be a member to read anything there. It used to be you could just lurk, but the servers were getting crashed on Sundays with all the traffic. Our Alex Smith thread would routinely go to 300 pages during the week. They just don't have the servers for all the people who want to lurk there. So they went to a system where you have to join to read the posts.

[cdcox]

It's bullshit I can't read this.

They've pre-banned you.

[cdcox]

Pattern: 49ers fans settle for an underpowered message board and an underpowered QB.

It's time for Clark to step up and give us a QB worth of our message board.

[Hammock Parties]

They're having a huge discussion over my 2-27-1 stat. LMAO


Now they are showing clips calling them Cassel and Cassel v.2.0.

How often have we seen Alex leave a clean pocket feeling pressure that wasn't there yet

Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1,

This is the most telling Alex Smith Stat i have ever seen. For all you Alex Lovers out there, try to defend this one. Pretty much says if His D or his Run Game dont Win the game? Then Neither will Alex, uhh thank you.

ONLY wins came in 2011 in last game of year vs the Rams, and in
the game of his life vs the Saints. So if it wasnt for the last 2 games in 2011.

He would be 0-27-1 LUCKY CHIEFS

[Hammock Parties]

Hahaha. Thank you 49ers fans.

Here's a few other startring QB's whose D has let em down Often and they find ways to win.
Matt Ryan 13-12
Aaron Rodgers 16-17
Drew Brees 34-41

I understand a loosing record when your D gives up 24 plus, but to win 5% of your games.

[BigMeatballDave]

They're having a huge discussion over my 2-27-1 stat. LMAO

Your posts in this thread are hilarious, considering how much you used to love him. :D

It's okay. It was just a year ago Milkman and Austin called him a franchise QB.

[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

^ Lol, they call him C_ssh_le.

[Hammock Parties]

Your posts in this thread are hilarious, considering how much you used to love him. :D


I never loved Alex Smith. I liked him as a backup QB/replacement for Croyle. There is a huge difference between that and him being our starter.

[BigMeatballDave]

I never loved Alex Smith. I liked him as a backup QB/replacement for Croyle. There is a huge difference between that and him being our starter.

Yep LOL Alex Smith is really talented. BIG arm, very mobile. The injury is really just bad luck.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm not sure what you're getting at, Dave. I'd still take him as a backup here. He also had a good arm before he got hurt, and he's still mobile.

[Hootie]

GOATSE

once again

it's another LOADED, DIPSHIT, STUPID fucking stat that all occurred PRE-HARBAUGH

JFC man...

Since Harbaugh, he's 2-3 including a playoff win using that LOADED stat. You're just using "bust" Alex Smith against the guy he's actually been the last two years.

One of those 3 losses was the miracle "Tony Romo punctured lung game" as well.

Dude, you can twist any stat you want to make Alex Smith look like Matt Cassel because he was a full fledged bust for the first four years he was in the NFL...

but it's real fair to compare that situation to an Aaron Rodgers who got to take over a team who was a Favre fuck up and a Crosby miss away from making the Super Bowl.

My fucking God dude sometimes you are just totally pathetic.

"HIS CAREER STATS ARE MATT CASSEL'S!"

Do I need to keep crushing you with this all night/week/month long or...?

[Hammock Parties]

It's not stupid. To do it only twice in seven years is embarrassingly pathetic.

If the 49ers didn't have such a great defense the last two years he'd have even more losses.

[Hootie]

it's ridiculous

his level of play this year was pretty much Trent Green-esque

that's his ceiling in KC

we all wanted a franchise QB...we got Alex Smith

that's a fair reason to be pissed/disappointed

but making things up to pretend we got Cassel version 2 is pathetic

[Hootie]

If the 49ers didn't have such a great defense the last two years he'd have even more losses.

LMAO

and if Peyton Manning wasn't so good he wouldn't be so good!

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

it's ridiculous

his level of play this year was pretty much Trent Green-esque

that's his ceiling in KC

we all wanted a franchise QB...we got Alex Smith

that's a fair reason to be pissed/disappointed

but making things up to pretend we got Cassel version 2 is pathetic

So what QB in this draft is a Franchise QB?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

It's not stupid. To do it only twice in seven years is embarrassingly pathetic.

If the 49ers didn't have such a great defense the last two years he'd have even more losses.

Alex Smith >>>>>>>>>>Cassel

[Hammock Parties]

his level of play this year was pretty much Trent Green-esque


Throwing the ball down the field less than Matt Cassel is Trent-Green esque?

Taking a shit ton of sacks is Trent-Green esque?

[Hootie]

So what QB in this draft is a Franchise QB?

I have no idea but I know, speaking for the majority of this board, if we tried and missed it would have been pretty easily forgiven.

I'll ask you one further.

What player in this draft is a franchise player worth the #1 pick?

[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

and if Peyton Manning wasn't so good he wouldn't be so good!

He's going to come here, and when our D has a bad game, we will lose.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

I have no idea but I know, speaking for the majority of this board, if we tried and missed it would have been pretty easily forgiven.

I'll ask you one further.

What player in this draft is a franchise player worth the #1 pick?

None it's a bad year for the first pick.

[Hootie]

Yes. Alex Smith operated Harbaugh's gameplan very well. Alex Smith could be Trent Green in KC. He could also be Trent Dilfer. His ability is somewhere between those two. He's an efficient game manager who has shown ability to make plays the past two years.

Does this excite me? No, not really. I'd rather have drafted Geno or Barkley and taken a shot but apparently Reid and Dorsey aren't believers in these QBs.

I don't think they are Scott Pioli stupid, though. Reid always drafted/realized the importance of QB's in Philly. Dorsey went from Favre to Rodgers...pretty sure he realizes what the winning blueprint in the NFL is...and I doubt those two are stupid enough to hitch their wagons to Alex Smith for 4+ years if he plays like Trent Dilfer.

[Hootie]

He's going to come here, and when our D has a bad game, we will lose.

and you're probably right

but you need to stop using the bust Smith years as ways to beef up this argument you're having with yourself on this board

it's pathetic

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith could be Trent Green in KC. r.

Explain how Alex Smith is going to be #2 in the league in passing yards. Because that's what Trent was in 2003.

[Hammock Parties]

and you're probably right

but you need to stop using the bust Smith years as ways to beef up this argument you're having with yourself on this board

it's pathetic

Unfortunately for you, 49ers fans seem to agree with me.

[hometeam]

Alex Smith will never be Trent Green, he needs to almost double his production :/

[Hootie]

Unfortunately for you, 49ers fans seem to agree with me.

I personally never disagreed with you...

but he's 2-3 in that situation since Harbaugh came to town and that's the stat you should be using...

what Alex Smith did at the start of his career is absolutely irrelevant since he's now been a different guy for 24 straight games.

the only reason to use Nolan/Singletary Smith stats is to try and prove he's something he isn't...

Alex Smith is an efficient game manager. That's what he is. Does that win in the NFL on a consistent basis?

No.

[Hootie]

Explain how Alex Smith is going to be #2 in the league in passing yards. Because that's what Trent was in 2003.

throw the ball to Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes a lot

[Hammock Parties]

throw the ball to Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes a lot

So you're on record then?

Alex Smith could have a 4,000+-yard season here?

[Hootie]

So you're on record then?

Alex Smith could have a 4,000+-yard season here?

I'd predict somewhere between the 3500 and 4000 range, yes. McNabb never really threw for over 4000 yards so I'm not going to be like "yeah, for sure."

But in a Dick Vermeil offense? Could I see Alex Smith throwing for 4000 yards? Yeah, absolutely.

[Hammock Parties]

I'd predict somewhere between the 3500 and 4000 range, yes. McNabb never really threw for over 4000 yards so I'm not going to be like "yeah, for sure."

But in a Dick Vermeil offense? Could I see Alex Smith throwing for 4000 yards? Yeah, absolutely.

No. 4000 or more. In the top 10 in passing. Preferably top 5, since that's what Trent was.

Alex Smith doesn't fit a Vermeil offense, either. You know this.

[Hootie]

No. 4000 or more. In the top 10 in passing. Preferably top 5, since that's what Trent was.

Alex Smith doesn't fit a Vermeil offense, either. You know this.

why the fuck would Alex Smith not fit a Vermeil offense?

and no, I'm not betting that.

I don't even like the Smith move.

I'm just not a complete fucking moron who needs to be a drama queen and start comparing him to Matt Cassel because he certainly isn't Matt Cassel.

[Hammock Parties]

why the fuck would Alex Smith not fit a Vermeil offense?


Because the offense emphasizes throwing the ball down the field, dumbshit.

[Hootie]

Because the offense emphasizes throwing the ball down the field, dumbshit.

pretty sure Alex Smith has every bit of the arm Trent Green had

this is getting ridiculous

[Brock]

Because the offense emphasizes throwing the ball down the field, dumbshit.

They didnt emphasize deep passing here.

[Messier]

Because the offense emphasizes throwing the ball down the field, dumbshit.

You'll disagree immediately, but Smith has as strong, if not a stronger arm than Green.

[Hootie]

Kennison and Morton ran 12 yard dig routes! THAT'S DOWNFIELD PASSING!

ALEX SMITH IS A CAREER 10% PASSER ON 12 YARD DIGS.

[Hammock Parties]

They didnt emphasize deep passing here.

There were lots of intermediate throws in the offense in the 15-30 yard range.

Alex Smith almost literally throws 75 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

So go ahead and keep fucking that chicken, hootie.

[Hootie]

There were lots of intermediate throws in the offense in the 15-30 yard range.

Alex Smith almost literally throws 75 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

So go ahead and keep ****ing that chicken, hootie.

dude if that Eli thread wasn't locked I'd love to bump it right now

I AIM'd you before he won the Super Bowl that year...before they went on that run...and was like, "you know who has impressed me this year?! Eli Manning."

and then you chastised me and told me how terrible he was and how stupid I was

I don't think you know what you're watching.

[RunKC]

Deceiving thread title considering Alex Smith is 20-6-1 and has played well in the playoffs.

Not really the definition of "suck".

[Hammock Parties]

Trent Green threw 188 passes in the 11-30 yard range in 2003.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/478/year/2003/trent-green

Alex Smith threw 102 passes in the 11-30 yard range in 2011.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/8416/year/2011/alex-smith

Go ahead and tell me Alex can run that offense! Let's not even go over the fact that 49ers fans tell us Alex refuses to throw the ball into tight windows down the field.

Alex Smith under no circumstances will be as good as Trent Green here.

[RunKC]

Alex Smith under no circumstances will be as good as Trent Green here.

How many playoff games did Trent Green win in KC?

I seem to remember Alex Smith winning more in SF. LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

How many playoff games did Trent Green win in KC?

I seem to remember Alex Smith winning more in SF. LMAO

Trent Green would have won 6 Super Bowls if he had the #2 defense, dumbass.

[Hootie]

Trent Green never threw into tight windows, either! LMAO

that was my biggest complaint the Huard/Green year...

my entire premise was...

"Huard is the shitty QB that forces the ball to Gonzalez and Bowe when they are covered and that is why he needs to play because Green won't do it and just takes constant sacks..."

literally

that was my argument for Huard...that he let our playmakers make plays and Green wouldn't throw into those windows because he was too smart/too used to the Vermeil offense where he always had an open guy

lololol

[RunKC]

Trent Green would have won 6 Super Bowls if he had the #2 defense, dumbass.

I keep hearing the words "would have" and "should have" instead of "playoff win" and it makes me laugh.

Trent wasn't that great of a QB. He was hidden behind the best OL I've ever seen and a strong running game.

I'm willing to see if Reid can surround Alex Smith with necessary tools to succeed here, because he's played well in the playoffs before and there's no reason to believe he can't again.

[RunKC]

This is just hilarious. Alex Smith has 6 TD's to 0 INT's in his 2 playoff games and he sucks?

JFC people the guy only had 1 year with a decent OC before Harbaugh showed up.

Reid thinks he has even more potential. Let's wait and see.

[Hammock Parties]

Trent Green never threw into tight windows, either! LMAO


He did it all the time you fucking dumbass.

In fact he got into trouble over forcing the ball sometimes.

Don't make me post fucking GIFs.

Alex Smith is a goddamn checkdown king and you think he can run Vermeil's offense. LOL at you.

[cdcox]

Smith are Green are not the same QB. Green's passes in the 20 yard range are fast and flat compared to Smith's. Highlights don't tell everything, but clearly Green has more of downfield game than Smith. It's not clear at all that Smith could have ran the Saunders offense as well as Green.


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[Hootie]

He did it all the time you ****ing dumbass.

In fact he got into trouble over forcing the ball sometimes.

Don't make me post ****ing GIFs.

Alex Smith is a goddamn checkdown king and you think he can run Vermeil's offense. LOL at you.

sure

post .gifs of the Green/Huard year...you're going to find a whole lot more Huard fitting the ball into windows than Trent Green.

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith basically never, ever makes throws like this. He wouldn't even attempt this.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/dante.gif

[cdcox]

sure

post .gifs of the Green/Huard year...you're going to find a whole lot more Huard fitting the ball into windows than Trent Green.

Herm Edwards first statement about the offense was that he wasn't comfortable with the risks Green took in the passing game. Not to mention Green really never came back from his decapatation. So ignore 2006. Go back to 2002 through 2005. Watch the highlights I posted. Green hit plenty of windows.

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith does this all the time!

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/morton.gif

[Hootie]

lol

I'm pretty sure you could go throw every one of Alex Smith's throws and find 5 throws just like that.

My fucking God people. Give me a break. I loved Trent Green.

I've consistently said I see Alex Smith being somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green.

[Hammock Parties]

Sure, Alex Smith can run the Vermeil offense!

http://i.imgur.com/BBtjftw.gif

[Hootie]

lolololol

This is great.

now post 5 checkdown passes by Alex Smith to further prove your point

[Hammock Parties]

lolololol

This is great.

now post 5 checkdown passes by Alex Smith to further prove your point

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

[Messier]

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

Is Cassel better?

[hometeam]

Is Cassel And two second round draft picks better?

FYP

[Messier]

Stupidly FYP

FYP

[Hammock Parties]

Is Cassel better?

Overall, no.

In 2010, yes.

Alex Smith has to surpass what he did in SF here. By a large margin.

It's scary as hell to think that Cassel was better at throwing the ball down the field in 2010 than Alex Smith has ever been.

[Messier]

Overall, no.

In 2010, yes.

Alex Smith has to surpass what he did in SF here. By a large margin.

It's scary as hell to think that Cassel was better at throwing the ball down the field in 2010 than Alex Smith has ever been.

I'll agree Smith must build on what he's already done. He'll be throwing more here.

[Fat Elvis]

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.



http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/05/30/does-alex-smith-have-the-arm-to-ultilize-deep-threats/

THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)

(From Pro Football Focus)

AARON RODGERS, Packers (16 games): 129.1 QB rating

33 of 66, 1,264 yards, 14 TD, 1 INT

MATT SCHAUB, Texans (10 games): 125.3

14 of 37, 499 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT

TONY ROMO, Cowboys (16 games): 123.8

32 of 61, 1,166 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT

ALEX SMITH, 49ers (18 games): 111.4

21 of 51, 723 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT

Note: In 2010, Smith completed 9 of 36 passes for 316 yards with two touchdowns and three interceptions on throws of 20-plus yards (47.5 rating).

MATTHEW STAFFORD, Lions (17 games): 107.8

34 of 83, 1,187, 12 TD, 4 INT

DREW BREES, Saints (18 games): 107.3

44 of 86, 1,187 yards, 20 TD, 6 INT

ELI MANNING, Giants (20 games): 103.2

49 of 123, 1,675 yards, 15 TD, 7 INT

CAM NEWTON, Panthers (16 games): 92.6

33 of 89, 1,149 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT

PHILIP RIVERS, Chargers (16 games): 91.4

28 of 75 935 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT

TOM BRADY, Patriots (19 games): 87.7

23 of 73, 746 yards, 10 TD, 4 INT

JOE FLACCO, Ravens (18 games): 81.8

25 of 88, 816 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT

BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Steelers (16 games): 77.5

24 of 75, 818 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT

MICHAEL VICK, Eagles (13 games): 77.2

24 of 58, 769 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT

JAY CUTLER, Bears (10 games): 77.0

14 of 37, 425 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT

MATT RYAN, Falcons (17 games): 69.3

16 of 63, 518 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

It is statistically proven that when he did throw it past 20 yards, he did it better than most QBs in the league.....

[Hammock Parties]

Now ask yourself why he doesn't do it more.

Because throwing it less down the field than anyone else in the league (save Ponder) isn't an attractive quality.

[Kaepernick]

I think Alex hasn't been the same since his 2007 shoulder injury and surgery. Whether it is physical or mental, I don't think he has been the same.

Here are highlights from 2006, before the shoulder injury. He throws a lot flatter and faster than today. He seems to have every bit the arm strength Trent Green shows in the highlights above.

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[Mav]

Now ask yourself why he doesn't do it more.

Because throwing it less down the field than anyone else in the league (save Ponder) isn't an attractive quality.

Well, you just name two of the guys that have the best running games in football. So it goes to reason doesnt it that if Alex Smith is throwing less than other qbs, obviously hes going to throw DEEP less?

[cdcox]

I think Alex hasn't been the same since his 2007 shoulder injury and surgery. Whether it is physical or mental, I don't think he has been the same.

Here are highlights from 2006, before the shoulder injury. He throws a lot flatter and faster than today. He seems to have every bit the arm strength Trent Green shows in the highlights above.



You're right. His arm isn't nearly as lively as it was pre-injury. Even on short passes now he heaves the ball instead of snapping off the pass.

We've bought damaged goods. :doh!:

[Hammock Parties]

Well, you just name two of the guys that have the best running games in football. So it goes to reason doesnt it that if Alex Smith is throwing less than other qbs, obviously hes going to throw DEEP less?

If only he could have whipped out that deep throwing ability against the Giants in the playoffs!

[Mav]

If only he could have whipped out that deep throwing ability against the Giants in the playoffs!

Touche.......Good call.

was not one of his better performances i have to admit.

[whoman69]

1960! LMAO

1962

[Dixie Land]

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

ALEX will never be a gunslinger type of QB...he is mechanical =one dimensional = stares down receivers = immobile =and thrived in a system of dink an dunk=checkdowns that got players injured=with arguably the most talented team in football EXCEPT for the QB position...this is why the 49ers benched Alex again for the 8th time in favor of yet another QB... this is why the 49ers traded off this dead wood....

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

[Hammock Parties]

You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

Wrong. They started throwing it deep more when Kaepernick came in the game. Almost twice as much.