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Tribal Warfare
10-15-2013, 07:36 PM
Upgrades on defense?

Where?

I read it right here that DeVito was a journeyman hack versus top five pick, "the next Warren Sapp" Glenn Dorsey.

And Sean Smith was the worst CB in the NFL.

And Bob Sutton was an over-the-hill coattail rider who threw out underachieving defense after underachieving defense.

And don't forget that Tamba Hali is slow, out of position in a 34 and is past his prime.

Berry, Houston, and Poe must've snorted some of LT's blow and became football gods.

BossChief
10-15-2013, 08:02 PM
Alex better pick up the pace a little and start being a better quarterback because we have some serious tests coming up.

The defenses of the Texans and Browns are no joke.

Denver is gonna be on top of their game and Alex is gonna need to score touchdowns, not field goals, to win.

SDs D just shut down Indy and can put points on the board.

If we are gonna have a chance in those games, Alex has to give us more than he did against Oakland.

mattschiefs
10-15-2013, 08:08 PM
Alex is going to have to play better then he did against Oakland in every game. Even the rematch against Oakland. The way he played Sunday just isn't going to get the job done. The offense is going to have to get there shit together. They still have time to do it. But it better happen fast

BossChief
10-15-2013, 08:18 PM
There = here or there...it's over there
Their = it's their choice if we go or not, it's due to their contributions that all of this came to fruition.
They're = they are

KCCrusader
10-15-2013, 08:25 PM
The Chiefs offensive line in pass protection still looks like the same crappy OL that went 2-14.

I wouldn't expect HOF numbers from any QB playing behind this Chiefs OL until they start protecting the QB a whole lot better.

Pasta Little Brioni
10-15-2013, 08:45 PM
Hi mult

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-15-2013, 10:08 PM
All of that is Alexcuses 101. The book has already been written. The dude sucks statisticaly and he sucks via the eye test. Close the book on this guy every being anymore than a stop gap.

If you can keep them uncovered long enough to endure him, that is.

ChiefsCountry
10-15-2013, 10:13 PM
The Chiefs offensive line in pass protection still looks like the same crappy OL that went 2-14.

I wouldn't expect HOF numbers from any QB playing behind this Chiefs OL until they start protecting the QB a whole lot better.

This year's line is giving up more sacks per game than last year and it still less than what Alex Smith took in San Francisco. Suck on that true fan douche.

Kaepernick
10-16-2013, 12:53 AM
Ahhhhh, just like the old days. You guys are lucky to have Alex around to insult, fight over, and defend.

Kind of boring around Red Zone these days. Nobody seriously debates the abilities of CK7. "When is Crabtree coming back, yawn, when will Manningham be back, yawn, sucks to lose Aldon Smith, yawn."

Nothing like Alex haters and defenders going nuclear on each other on an hourly basis. Cool shit.

It is uncanny how Chiefs Planet is mirroring the 49ers.com Red Zone with the Alex discussion.

Alex come in and everybody hates on him. He plays OK and a lot of people get their hopes up seeing he is a pretty darn good serviceable journeyman QB. Others see you will never get over the hump with him unless you drag him there.

After week 4, I posted that the Alex see-saw would resume. People jumped on me about how he was playing so well. Not 2 weeks later and the see-saw is down again.

This will be a constant as long as Alex is the QB here.

Somebody said Alex hit his ceiling with the Giants game. Nah. I don't buy it. Alex never does really well the first year in a new system. He will hit his ceiling some time next year in year 2 of the same system. He'll nurse that level in year 3. But he'll still be about a 16th-18th ranked QB with severe limitations who will rarely sabotage his team but even more rarely lift it.

I knew my work here was done when the balance on both sides hit a sort of equilibrium. Most people here know exactly what they have now in Alex. Some think that is enough. Some think that is not enough. And that difference of opinion will lead the forum to blows come playoff time.

Either way, all I can say is, thanks for the two 2nd round picks for Alex. There is no way you only win 1 game the rest of the year so it is a lock the 49ers get that conditional pick.

For a stop gap. Works for me. :evil:

We took Tank Carradine with your pick last year. Can't wait to see who we get with your pick this year, or maybe use it to trade up in the 1st.

whoman69
10-16-2013, 08:57 AM
There = here or there...it's over there
Their = it's their choice if we go or not, it's due to their contributions that all of this came to fruition.
They're = they are

Grammar cops with another bust

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-16-2013, 08:58 AM
Either way, all I can say is, thanks for the two 2nd round picks for Alex. There is no way you only win 1 game the rest of the year so it is a lock the 49ers get that conditional pick.

For a stop gap. Works for me. :evil:

We took Tank Carradine with your pick last year. Can't wait to see who we get with your pick this year, or maybe use it to trade up in the 1st.

Asshole.:banghead:

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-16-2013, 08:59 AM
Asshole.:banghead:

Edit:

On second thought; we suck at drafting whereas the FA market is our killing ground.

Eat Fuck Pie.:)

Nightfyre
10-16-2013, 09:05 AM
There = here or there...it's over there
Their = it's their choice if we go or not, it's due to their contributions that all of this came to fruition.
They're = they are

Whatever. Your and idiot!

Kaepernick
10-16-2013, 12:43 PM
Asshole.:banghead:

Who gave you Marcus Cooper on a silver platter? For free? :doh!:

chiefs1okie
10-16-2013, 12:52 PM
Who gave you Marcus Cooper on a silver platter? For free? :doh!:

:hmmm: ROFL

chiefs1okie
10-16-2013, 12:54 PM
Hmmm.... just noticed I am on a blistering pace of nearly 41/2 posts per year. I really need to slow down.

Mav
10-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Who gave you Marcus Cooper on a silver platter? For free? :doh!:

even at 16-18, he will be right there with your boy.

he looks amazing playing the same style that Alex Smith played the last two years. Game manager fits him well.

loochy
10-20-2013, 05:40 PM
BUMP in anticipation of the coming shitstorm

Jakemall
10-20-2013, 05:42 PM
BUMP in anticipation of the coming shitstorm

Yup.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:42 PM
7 GAMES, 7 TOUCHDOWNS

I am going to win my bet with whatever fool bet me Alex would have 25 TDs.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-20-2013, 05:43 PM
Much better for Axl today. Still didn't get my 21 points though.

Iconic
10-20-2013, 05:43 PM
Inb4....

Mav
10-20-2013, 05:44 PM
7 GAMES, 7 TOUCHDOWNS

I am going to win my bet with whatever fool bet me Alex would have 25 TDs.

Yeah. 7 games, 7 tds, ummmmm I am missing a 7 though.......


it will come to me at some point.

Eleazar
10-20-2013, 05:45 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/6/21/1277128644430/Portugal-7-0-North-Korea--005.jpg

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:45 PM
7 wins if our D wasn't so awesome

loochy
10-20-2013, 05:46 PM
Much better for Axl today. Still didn't get my 21 points though.

better, except for when his 2 mistakes were absolute killers.

ViperVisor
10-20-2013, 05:47 PM
The INT was Smith out of character forcing a ball. McCluster was probably sure the crowed area was a pass Smith doesn't try.

The idea was hit a guy if he is open or when rolling and coverage in there he would tuck it and dive back near the LOS.

Went for a 1st down and probably pushing for it cause he knew he missed the TD earlier.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:48 PM
17 points.

Our scoring continues to drop, people.

No Alexcuses.

Mav
10-20-2013, 05:49 PM
7 wins if our D wasn't so awesome

That was the number one defense in the league, (allegedly, per Simply Red)

Alex isn't playing well, but the team is still winning. Which do you want?

I haven't watched the whole game, but the yards certainly don't reflect that he would of played amazingly.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
10-20-2013, 05:49 PM
7 GAMES, 7 TOUCHDOWNS

I am going to win my bet with whatever fool bet me Alex would have 25 TDs.

holy shit. You're golden

Mav
10-20-2013, 05:49 PM
17 points.

Our scoring continues to drop, people.

No Alexcuses.

#1 Rated defense. The Texans.

RunKC
10-20-2013, 05:50 PM
17 points.

Our scoring continues to drop, people.

No Alexcuses.

Geno Smith starts for us today, we lose.

That pick 6 would have been the difference in this game.

Mr. Laz
10-20-2013, 05:50 PM
Alex Smith doesn't suck

He's not great either

inconsistent accuracy, especially beyond 15 yards

passing while running is sketchy at times too

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:50 PM
That was the number one defense in the league, (allegedly, per Simply Red)

Alex isn't playing well, but the team is still winning. Which do you want?

I haven't watched the whole game, but the yards certainly don't reflect that he would of played amazingly.

He's gone three straight weeks without a TD pass.

That's hard to do.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
10-20-2013, 05:55 PM
That was the number one defense in the league, (allegedly, per Simply Red)

Alex isn't playing well, but the team is still winning. Which do you want?

I haven't watched the whole game, but the yards certainly don't reflect that he would of played amazingly.

2 outstanding drives, and 1 stalled drive. The rest was below-average. But those 2 drives came when trailing and shifted the momentum. I don't know if the play calling goes to shit when we have the lead, but he plays better when he needs to.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:56 PM
2 outstanding drives, and 1 stalled drive. The rest was below-average. But those 2 drives came when trailing and shifted the momentum. I don't know if the play calling goes to shit when we have the lead, but he plays better when he needs to.

He needed to play better in the 4th.

I was on pins and needles every time the Texans got the ball back.

l4z4rd
10-20-2013, 05:56 PM
He's gone three straight weeks without a TD pass.

That's hard to do.

Not his fault Fasano likes to fall at the 1/2 yd line...twice.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Not his fault Fasano likes to fall at the 1/2 yd line...twice.

Maybe Alex could try throwing the ball INTO the end zone.

BigMeatballDave
10-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Alex Smith doesn't suck

He's not great either

inconsistent accuracy, especially beyond 15 yards

passing while running is sketchy at times too

Fair assessment.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
10-20-2013, 05:57 PM
He needed to play better in the 4th.

I was on pins and needles every time the Texans got the ball back.

I definitely agree. He's very limited.

Mr. Laz
10-20-2013, 05:58 PM
Alex Smith doesn't suck

He's not great either

inconsistent accuracy, especially beyond 15 yards

passing while running is sketchy at times too

Pasta Little Brioni
10-20-2013, 06:01 PM
Fasano was in for a TD

splatbass
10-20-2013, 06:06 PM
He's gone three straight weeks without a TD pass.

That's hard to do.

We had two rushing TDs today. In case no one told you rushing TDs count the same as passing TDs.

You guys keep saying we can't win without the D, but the D didn't bother to show up until late today. Houston was raping us the entire 1st half. But the O kept us in the game and we won it.

notorious
10-20-2013, 06:07 PM
Boy did he ever stink it up on the goal line.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 06:07 PM
We had two rushing TDs. In case no one told you rushing TDs count the same as passing TDs.

I'm talking about passing TDs.

The best QBs throw a lot of them.

Alex doesn't throw many at all.

petegz28
10-20-2013, 06:12 PM
I'm talking about passing TDs.

The best QBs throw a lot of them.

Alex doesn't throw many at all.

Does a passing TD get you more points than a rushing TD???

splatbass
10-20-2013, 06:12 PM
I'm talking about passing TDs.

The best QBs throw a lot of them.

Alex doesn't throw many at all.

Doesn't matter how we get TDs. Running, passing, same thing. 6 points either way.

The fact that Alex Smith got us into position to score running TDs seems to have escaped you.

I'm sure you are hating 7-0, it makes you look dumber and dumber with every win. And we did this one with crappy defense for the first half.

Easy 6
10-20-2013, 06:15 PM
**** THIS THREAD, GOODNIGHT/DROPS MIC

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 06:15 PM
Does a passing TD get you more points than a rushing TD???

This is a thread to evaluate Alex.

Before the season people here swore he'd throw more than 18 TDs as our QB.

Well...probably not.

He is what he is...240 yards is a great game for this dude.

notorious
10-20-2013, 06:15 PM
Alex has made a lot of plays this year to help us win.


The bad plays stand out because we are usually in the lead ready to put it away when he shits himself.

Bwana
10-20-2013, 06:16 PM
7-0

splatbass
10-20-2013, 06:17 PM
This is a thread to evaluate Alex.

Before the season people here swore he'd throw more than 18 TDs as our QB.

Well...probably not.

He is what he is...240 yards is a great game for this dude.

Yup, if he threw more TDs we might be 7-0 right now. Oh, wait.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 06:19 PM
Yup, if he threw more TDs we might be 7-0 right now. Oh, wait.

If he threw more TDs I'd be wrong about him, and you'd all love that.

He better start throwing more TDs, because we're not holding Peyton under 21.

lcarus
10-20-2013, 06:19 PM
I just wish he'd hit the few opportunities we have to score big TD pass on a sideline streak. He threw a shitty pass to Charles on one today that would have been 6. He did it last week to Avery. Think he's done it on a couple others as well. It's rare that we get those opportunities. Gotta hit em.

Nightfyre
10-20-2013, 06:20 PM
Alex Smith supporters:


"LALALALALALAALA ALEX SMITH ISN'T A PROBLEM. 7-0!!!!"

BigMeatballDave
10-20-2013, 06:22 PM
If he threw more TDs I'd be wrong about him, and you'd all love that.

He better start throwing more TDs, because we're not holding Peyton under 21.

Whoa, groundbreaking.

Most of us know what Alex is.

You aren't unearthing anything.

Hammock Parties
10-20-2013, 06:23 PM
Whoa, groundbreaking.

Most of us know what Alex is.

You aren't unearthing anything.

Some of the homers thought he was more than he is, though.

splatbass
10-20-2013, 06:25 PM
Alex Smith supporters:


"LALALALALALAALA ALEX SMITH ISN'T A PROBLEM. 7-0!!!!"

He didn't look bad today. He made some mistakes but also led a couple of nice drives.

Brock
10-20-2013, 06:27 PM
Today he was the ordinary, adequate qb I thought he was. Keep it up alex!

BigMeatballDave
10-20-2013, 06:28 PM
Some of the homers thought he was more than he is, though.

Just hopeful.

:)

Kaepernick
10-20-2013, 06:30 PM
Alex Smith's passer rating trend as a Chief.

Week 1 - 94.4
Week 2 - 95.0
Week 3 - 87.0
Week 4 - 84.2
Week 5 - 60.3
Week 6 - 56.9
Week 7 - 75.6

Either Andy is asking too much of him or the AFC is getting to know how to stop him.

Alex is notorious for doing poorly in the 1st year in a system. He started out so well, I thought he would buck that trend this year. Maybe not.

Whatever he does this year, I guarantee he will be better next year as he comes to master Andy's system. The only caveat is that he may never see his 49ers level of efficiency passing more than 30 times every game. I just don't know.

You just don't want to see the trend above with your starting QB.

ViperVisor
10-20-2013, 06:30 PM
I just wish he'd hit the few opportunities we have to score big TD pass on a sideline streak. He threw a shitty pass to Charles on one today that would have been 6. He did it last week to Avery. Think he's done it on a couple others as well. It's rare that we get those opportunities. Gotta hit em.

That level of fail is usually for INTs or the easy misses.

The passes down the field 30 yards and near the sidelines are passes over 100 feet away. He missed them by maybe 10 feet.
He is an NFL QB so you'd like him to put 1 of those 2 within reach.

Save the expletives for some of the crap Brandon Weeden pulls.

L.A. Chieffan
10-20-2013, 06:34 PM
Passer rating went up from last week. 240 and a rushing TD. That int wasn't really his fault

pugsnotdrugs19
10-20-2013, 06:41 PM
if the Fasano TD counts as what it was and we dont have to take knees at the end its 31-16. Largely because of good defense and Alex's converting today. He had 2 bad plays, the rest was a nice efficient game. He did just face the # 1 pass defense today.... the rest of the season shows some favorable games for him to do well.

aturnis
10-21-2013, 12:23 AM
Alex has made a lot of plays this year to help us win.


The bad plays stand out because we are usually in the lead ready to put it away when he shits himself.

The bad plays stand out b/c they occur with more frequency than the good plays.

Alex Smith 4Ever
10-21-2013, 12:31 AM
Alex Smith's passer rating trend as a Chief.

Week 1 - 94.4
Week 2 - 95.0
Week 3 - 87.0
Week 4 - 84.2
Week 5 - 60.3
Week 6 - 56.9
Week 7 - 75.6

Either Andy is asking too much of him or the AFC is getting to know how to stop him.

Alex is notorious for doing poorly in the 1st year in a system. He started out so well, I thought he would buck that trend this year. Maybe not.

Whatever he does this year, I guarantee he will be better next year as he comes to master Andy's system. The only caveat is that he may never see his 49ers level of efficiency passing more than 30 times every game. I just don't know.

You just don't want to see the trend above with your starting QB.
Or 7-0

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 12:32 AM
Or 7-0

The team was a cunt hair from losing today because Alex disappeared, completely, in the 4th quarter. The defense had to put forth yet another HERCULEAN effort. It was like Derrick fucking Thomas himself was out there once again.

Why are you ignoring that?

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 12:35 AM
He didn't look bad today. He made some mistakes but also led a couple of nice drives.

Were you a Bono supporter, too? LMAO

splatbass
10-21-2013, 12:38 AM
The team was a **** hair from losing today because Alex disappeared, completely, in the 4th quarter. The defense had to put forth yet another HERCULEAN effort. It was like Derrick ****ing Thomas himself was out there once again.

Why are you ignoring that?

The defense disappeared in the first half, and Alex kept them in the game until the defense finally showed up in the second half.

Why are you ignoring that?

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 12:39 AM
The defense disappeared in the first half

They allowed 10 points. LMAO

That is far from disappearing.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 12:39 AM
Were you a Bono supporter, too? LMAO

No, I wasn't. But I am able to be objective and fair, unlike some of you. Alex Smith had some good drives today. He made some mistakes, just as I said, but the interception was not his fault. He had a decent day today.

Trakkk
10-21-2013, 12:40 AM
The defense disappeared in the first half, and Alex kept them in the game until the defense finally showed up in the second half.

Why are you ignoring that?

This too, I cant believe people act like defense won the game today.. is was a very MEDIOCRE DAY for everybody. Alex made 2 mistakes.

Want to know what makes Alex so great? When he makes mistakes, they can still win the game. When other QBs make mistakes, it can cost them 14 POINTS.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 12:40 AM
They allowed 10 points. LMAO

That is far from disappearing.

Did you watch the first half? Casey Kasem had all freaking day to throw, and shredded the defense the whole half.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 12:41 AM
Did you watch the first half? Casey Kasem had all freaking day to throw, and shredded the defense the whole half.

10 points.

I know I was freaking out. It was like toasty and crispy were out there again.

Chiefspants
10-21-2013, 12:42 AM
This too, I cant people people act like defense won the game today.. is was a very MEDIOCRE DAY for everybody. Alex made 2 mistakes.

Want to know what makes Alex so great? When he makes mistakes, they can still win the game. When other QBs make mistakes, it can cost them 14 POINTS.

Alec throw the most pretty interceptions in the league, amirite?

http://3beautifulbamfs.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/simon-confused-gif.gif

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:44 AM
http://3beautifulbamfs.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/simon-confused-gif.gif

LMAO

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 12:45 AM
I think I get it. When Alex makes a mistake, the other team knows they don't necessarily have to take full advantage, because Alex Smith isn't gonna put up a lot of points.

So they ease off the gas a bit, and our defense responds by KILLING THEM, and we win the game.

It's the reverse psychology Alex Smith gameplan.

Brilliant!

lcarus
10-21-2013, 12:46 AM
That level of fail is usually for INTs or the easy misses.

The passes down the field 30 yards and near the sidelines are passes over 100 feet away. He missed them by maybe 10 feet.
He is an NFL QB so you'd like him to put 1 of those 2 within reach.

Save the expletives for some of the crap Brandon Weeden pulls.

Yeah, I want him to hit more than 50% of the wide open passes that are easy TDs. Those passes I'm referring to weren't that deep, they were just open. But regardless he usually does well at the end of games. We were robbed of a TD when they reviewed that Fasano spot. He looked clearly in to me. He still should have hit McGrath on the following 4th down though.

I would like to see that play more often however. Charles lining up on the outside on a streak.

KC_Connection
10-21-2013, 12:48 AM
No, I wasn't. But I am able to be objective and fair, unlike some of you. Alex Smith had some good drives today. He made some mistakes, just as I said, but the interception was not his fault. He had a decent day today.
The standard for "decent" QB play has suddenly become quite low in these parts.

aturnis
10-21-2013, 12:49 AM
Did you watch the first half? Casey Kasem had all freaking day to throw, and shredded the defense the whole half.

Keenum actually got the ball off under great pressure a lot. Moved around really well. It was very a annoying thing to see a guy do in his first start.

Trakkk
10-21-2013, 12:49 AM
Alec throw the most pretty interceptions in the league, amirite?


Couldnt care how pretty they look if only 3 come every 7 games brah

KC_Connection
10-21-2013, 12:50 AM
I think I get it. When Alex makes a mistake, the other team knows they don't necessarily have to take full advantage, because Alex Smith isn't gonna put up a lot of points.

So they ease off the gas a bit, and our defense responds by KILLING THEM, and we win the game.

It's the reverse psychology Alex Smith gameplan.

Brilliant!
I always knew Alex knew how to win, but that's taking it to a whole new level.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 12:50 AM
how does Alex Smith compare to Steve Bono, you ask?

Alex Smith, seven games extrapolated to 16 games:
3589 yards, 58% completion, 6.3 avg., 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 41 sacks

Steve Bono, 1995
3121 yards, 56.3% completion, 6.0 avg., 21 TDs, 10 INTs, 21 sacks

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:50 AM
Couldnt care how pretty they look if only 3 come every 7 games brah

He's thrown more than 3 INTs.

Chiefspants
10-21-2013, 12:51 AM
Couldnt care how pretty they look if only 3 come every 7 games brah

You must have been a huge fan of Cassel's 2010 performance, huh?

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:51 AM
how does Alex Smith compare to Steve Bono, you ask?

Alex Smith, seven games extrapolated to 16 games:
3589 yards, 58% completion, 6.3 avg., 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 41 sacks

Steve Bono, 1995
3121 yards, 56.3% completion, 6.0 avg., 21 TDs, 10 INTs, 21 sacks

Bono is much more mobile, it seems.

aturnis
10-21-2013, 12:51 AM
Yeah, I want him to hit more than 50% of the wide open passes that are easy TDs. Those passes I'm referring to weren't that deep, they were just open. But regardless he usually does well at the end of games. We were robbed of a TD when they reviewed that Fasano spot. He looked clearly in to me. He still should have hit McGrath on the following 4th down though.

I would like to see that play more often however. Charles lining up on the outside on a streak.

Or Sherman. Or Fasano.

All three sure TD's.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:52 AM
You must have been a huge fan of Cassel's 2010 performance, huh?

LMAO

Chiefspants
10-21-2013, 12:52 AM
Or Sherman. Or Fasano.

All three sure TD's.

Nah bro, I got dis.

/Alec

aturnis
10-21-2013, 12:52 AM
Couldnt care how pretty they look if only 3 come every 7 games brah

4 bruh.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 12:56 AM
how does Alex Smith compare to Steve Bono, you ask?

Alex Smith, seven games extrapolated to 16 games:
3589 yards, 58% completion, 6.3 avg., 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 41 sacks

Steve Bono, 1995
3121 yards, 56.3% completion, 6.0 avg., 21 TDs, 10 INTs, 21 sacks

Oh my.

http://novelwriting101.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/death-of-kirk.jpg?w=614

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 12:59 AM
Oh my.

http://novelwriting101.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/death-of-kirk.jpg?w=614

It must really hurt your pride to see the team win all these games after your preseason predictions.

Trakkk
10-21-2013, 01:02 AM
It must really hurt your pride to see the team win all these games after your preseason predictions.
Put his ass on ignore 30 seconds after joining this forum lol. Id be mad too if I was an Alex hater and he's the winningest QB since 2011.

Chiefspants
10-21-2013, 01:04 AM
Put his ass on ignore 30 seconds after joining this forum lol. Id be mad too if I was an Alex hater and he's the winningest QB since 2011.

Top of the mornin' to you, Bobby!

aturnis
10-21-2013, 01:04 AM
Put his ass on ignore 30 seconds after joining this forum lol. Id be mad too if I was an Alex hater.

I'll try to figure this one out, but don't think I will. Why would am Alexis Smyth hater be mad? He's done nothing but validate the arguments against him all season.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 01:10 AM
I'll try to figure this one out, but don't think I will. Why would am Alexis Smyth hater be mad? He's done nothing but validate the arguments against him all season.

Him being the only undefeated QB in the league on a team that picked first in the draft last year is validating your arguments? I would think it would make you re-evaluate the qualities that equal QB success but I guess that's giving you too much credit.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 01:14 AM
Him being the only undefeated QB in the league on a team that picked first in the draft last year is validating your arguments? I would think it would make you re-evaluate the qualities that equal QB success but I guess that's giving you too much credit.

attributing the success of the Chiefs to Alex Smith at this point is completely intellectually dishonest. 49ers troll have nothing better to talk about?

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 01:19 AM
attributing the success of the Chiefs to Alex Smith at this point is completely intellectually dishonest. 49ers troll have nothing better to talk about?

I'm not saying the success is all his but there's a lot more to winning a football game than stats in a boxscore. The team went from 2-14 to the only undefeated team in the league does the QB, the most important position on the field, having nothing to do with that?

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 01:20 AM
I'm not saying the success is all his but there's a lot more to winning a football game than stats in a boxscore. The team went from 2-14 to the only undefeated team in the league does the QB, the most important position on the field, having nothing to do with that?

You ever help your mom make dinner when you were a kid?

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 01:25 AM
I'm not saying the success is all his but there's a lot more to winning a football game than stats in a boxscore. The team went from 2-14 to the only undefeated team in the league does the QB, the most important position on the field, having nothing to do with that?

I don't understand why I should discuss this with someone who doesn't even watch the games.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 01:29 AM
I don't understand why I should discuss this with someone who doesn't even watch the games.

Oh I don't watch the games, pretty sure I've watched every Chiefs game this year, try again buddy. Whatever you want to discuss from any game I got you.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 01:36 AM
You ever help your mom make dinner when you were a kid?

I can't even imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy 7-0 because you are locked into a pathetic attempt to save face because you opened your big mouth all offseason. Sucks to be you right now.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 01:54 AM
I can't even imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy 7-0 because you are locked into a pathetic attempt to save face because you opened your big mouth all offseason. Sucks to be you right now.

People will go to great lengths to protect their pride. They'll convince themselves that no matter what they were right and everyone else is wrong to protect the ego and sense of self-worth.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 01:58 AM
People will go to great lengths to protect their pride.

You don't have to go to great lengths to realize Alex Smith is severely limited.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 02:01 AM
His inability to hit 25 on that Go route today perfectly sums him up as a QB, imo.

Jakemall
10-21-2013, 02:11 AM
how does Alex Smith compare to Steve Bono, you ask?

Alex Smith, seven games extrapolated to 16 games:
3589 yards, 58% completion, 6.3 avg., 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 41 sacks

Steve Bono, 1995
3121 yards, 56.3% completion, 6.0 avg., 21 TDs, 10 INTs, 21 sacks

Gonna keep this to compare next year when Alex has his 2nd year in the system like Bono had in your comparison.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 02:20 AM
You don't have to go to great lengths to realize Alex Smith is severely limited.

You do however have to go to great lengths to keep making up reasons why he keeps winning and why that won't last. You put your presence on the board on the line on the notion that this team would win less than 8 games, after 7 weeks they are undefeated. Every one of your comments is a "Yeah but..." "Yeah they have the best record in the NFL, but that doesn't mean anything because that contradicts everything I have been saying for the last 6 months." How many times can you be wrong before you just give up and admit it? You're going to complain about and not enjoy one of the best seasons the Chiefs have had in the last 20 years because you didn't agree with the trade made half a year ago and you would rather be right and have the team fail than enjoy the success. That's sad and it goes against everything sports is supposed to be to the fan.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 02:23 AM
Gonna keep this to compare next year when Alex has his 2nd year in the system like Bono had in your comparison.

Go ahead. You'll just find another series of excuses for him next year.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 02:29 AM
His inability to hit 25 on that Go route today perfectly sums him up as a QB, imo.

Yeah his one missed deep pass outweighs the 98 yard touchdown drive he finished with a TD run, or his 25 yard run where he also drew a 15 yard penalty, or the 3rd downs he converted. Or the fact his team of which QB is the most important position won their 7th in a row to give them the league's best record. All that stuff is outweighed by the fact he missed one down field throw, every other QB in the league hits every single throw every play right? Just throw deep who cares if you win or lose, just get 300 yards baby!

New World Order
10-21-2013, 02:41 AM
Yeah his one missed deep pass outweighs the 98 yard touchdown drive he finished with a TD run, or his 25 yard run where he also drew a 15 yard penalty, or the 3rd downs he converted. Or the fact his team of which QB is the most important position won their 7th in a row to give them the league's best record. All that stuff is outweighed by the fact he missed one down field throw, every other QB in the league hits every single throw every play right? Just throw deep who cares if you win or lose, just get 300 yards baby!


He doesn't complete balls down field...like ever. The problem is with the way this defense has been playing NONE of these games should be close and they have been, all thanks to Alex.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 02:44 AM
He doesn't complete balls down field...like ever. The problem is with the way this defense has been playing NONE of these games should be close and they have been, all thanks to Alex.

I guess those two 40+ yard passes to Avery don't count? Keep bitching about having the best record in the league, did you forget you were 2-14 last year?

New World Order
10-21-2013, 02:45 AM
I guess those two 40+ yard passes to Avery don't count? Keep bitching about having the best record in the league, did you forget you were 2-14 last year?



If we had a competent qb we would be super bowl champs. Alex severely limits our team.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 02:46 AM
Yeah his one missed deep pass outweighs the 98 yard touchdown drive he finished with a TD run, or his 25 yard run where he also drew a 15 yard penalty, or the 3rd downs he converted. Or the fact his team of which QB is the most important position won their 7th in a row to give them the league's best record. All that stuff is outweighed by the fact he missed one down field throw, every other QB in the league hits every single throw every play right? Just throw deep who cares if you win or lose, just get 300 yards baby!

We had three drives that were worth a shit against a crippled texans defense. That is not going to be enough against playoff teams.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 02:51 AM
If we had a competent qb we would be super bowl champs. Alex severely limits our team.

HAHA 2-14 to 7-0 but the new QB has nothing to do with it. Did you ever actually play sports, or is fantasy football the extent or your experience? All I hear is a bunch of what could be or what would be despite the fact you went from worst team in the league to one of the best with a QB and coach change. Winning in the NFL doesn't just happen, you a Chiefs fan of all people should know that.

AlexSmithDynasty
10-21-2013, 02:51 AM
We had three drives that were worth a shit against a crippled texans defense. That is not going to be enough against playoff teams.

A Texans defense that came into the game statistically as the best defense in the league. Try again junior.

ChiefAshhole20
10-21-2013, 02:59 AM
I am ok with Alex as our QB and he has very well contributed to making this team reach 7-0.. But to also say that he is doing fine and isn't holding this offense back is in denial. He is good enough to keep this team afloat, but he is also the one keeping this team from being dominant.

Yes some members on here are overreacting, but at the same time there a large number that are under reacting. I think we can all agree that he is firmly in that 15-20 range and is good enough to get us to the playoffs and possibly advance a round or two, but we are still an upgrade away from being a true contender.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 03:13 AM
A Texans defense that came into the game statistically as the best defense in the league. Try again junior.

In yards. After throwing five pick sixes on the year. Talk about misconstruing statistics.

Mav
10-21-2013, 04:11 AM
That level of fail is usually for INTs or the easy misses.

The passes down the field 30 yards and near the sidelines are passes over 100 feet away. He missed them by maybe 10 feet.
He is an NFL QB so you'd like him to put 1 of those 2 within reach.

Save the expletives for some of the crap Brandon Weeden pulls.
I got to watch that piece of shit in person yesterday, in the rain, in the cold. What an abortion of a player he is. Just shitty. This prick even looked shitty in WARM UPS. Throwing streaks out of bounds. My god.
The team was a **** hair from losing today because Alex disappeared, completely, in the 4th quarter. The defense had to put forth yet another HERCULEAN effort. It was like Derrick ****ing Thomas himself was out there once again.

Why are you ignoring that?
I don't think anyone is ignoring this defense. I think they are quite fun to watch. The offense has to get better. Its been the mantra for weeks. I do think one thing you said was incorrect. The Colts showed last night that you can slow down the Broncos. They battered Peyton, and Darius Butler until he got nicked completely shut down Wes Welker. The Broncos are beatable.
I am ok with Alex as our QB and he has very well contributed to making this team reach 7-0.. But to also say that he is doing fine and isn't holding this offense back is in denial. He is good enough to keep this team afloat, but he is also the one keeping this team from being dominant.

Yes some members on here are overreacting, but at the same time there a large number that are under reacting. I think we can all agree that he is firmly in that 15-20 range and is good enough to get us to the playoffs and possibly advance a round or two, but we are still an upgrade away from being a true contender.
Alex Smith is a huge anchor to the offense. But he is not the only ANCHOR on the offense. Lets not kid ourselves. What you have to do when you have a mediocre qb, at the very least, is surround him with weapons. I have maintained for weeks that upgrades at the receiver, and tight end positions would do wonders for this team. And don't even get me started on if Charles gets hurt..
In yards. After throwing five pick sixes on the year. Talk about misconstruing statistics.

No no. They are number one. Just ask Simply Red, and for me to state that their statistical place on a stats website doesn't accurately display where they rank in the scheme of things, makes me a troll.

They are DA NUMBER ONEZ!!!!

splatbass
10-21-2013, 08:58 AM
If we had a competent qb we would be super bowl champs. Alex severely limits our team.

We are a long way from the end of the season, and we are 7-0, yet you've already pronounced us playoff losers? Are you fucking kidding me? You have no fucking idea what will happen, Nostradamus.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-21-2013, 09:00 AM
Did you watch the first half? Casey Kasem had all freaking day to throw, and shredded the defense the whole half.

LMAO

Keenum actually got the ball off under great pressure a lot. Moved around really well. It was very a annoying thing to see a guy do in his first start.

This. We should have NEVER respected him from the 1st snap.

how does Alex Smith compare to Steve Bono, you ask?

Alex Smith, seven games extrapolated to 16 games:
3589 yards, 58% completion, 6.3 avg., 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 41 sacks

Steve Bono, 1995
3121 yards, 56.3% completion, 6.0 avg., 21 TDs, 10 INTs, 21 sacks

Good God....that's just....just....fuck me.
You ever help your mom make dinner when you were a kid?

LMAO

warrior
10-21-2013, 09:17 AM
I can't even imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy 7-0 because you are locked into a pathetic attempt to save face because you opened your big mouth all offseason. Sucks to be you right now.




Claynus and his cronies are just unbelievable :deevee::deevee::deevee:



7 - 0

BigBeauford
10-21-2013, 09:26 AM
I got to watch that piece of shit in person yesterday, in the rain, in the cold. What an abortion of a player he is. Just shitty. This prick even looked shitty in WARM UPS. Throwing streaks out of bounds. My god.

I don't think anyone is ignoring this defense. I think they are quite fun to watch. The offense has to get better. Its been the mantra for weeks. I do think one thing you said was incorrect. The Colts showed last night that you can slow down the Broncos. They battered Peyton, and Darius Butler until he got nicked completely shut down Wes Welker. The Broncos are beatable.

Alex Smith is a huge anchor to the offense. But he is not the only ANCHOR on the offense. Lets not kid ourselves. What you have to do when you have a mediocre qb, at the very least, is surround him with weapons. I have maintained for weeks that upgrades at the receiver, and tight end positions would do wonders for this team. And don't even get me started on if Charles gets hurt..


No no. They are number one. Just ask Simply Red, and for me to state that their statistical place on a stats website doesn't accurately display where they rank in the scheme of things, makes me a troll.

They are DA NUMBER ONEZ!!!!

Yeah, just need to surround him with a few more weapons...yup never heard that one.

Baby Lee
10-21-2013, 10:13 AM
A Texans defense that came into the game statistically as the best defense in the league. Try again junior.

In yards. After throwing five pick sixes on the year. Talk about misconstruing statistics.

Only one of you are talking about the INTs that the defense THREW, dumbass.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 10:38 AM
We are a long way from the end of the season, and we are 7-0, yet you've already pronounced us playoff losers? Are you ****ing kidding me? You have no ****ing idea what will happen, Nostradamus.

Lol, pretty much. The glass is half empty, not half full. If it's full, it's full of piss. Complainers gonna complain, rule of life.

Sandy Vagina
10-21-2013, 10:49 AM
Lol, pretty much. The glass is half empty, not half full. If it's full, it's full of piss. Complainers gonna complain, rule of life.


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5457/30o1.jpg



.... but at least, it keeps CP entertaining! :D

mattschiefs
10-21-2013, 11:30 AM
Alex didn't have a bad day yesterday and people are still whining

This is what I did notice they are clearly looking for the deep ball more. A foot less on that throw to Charles and they might have had a td. Still working on some timing in that regard since, as it has been talked about over and over again they haven't looked for the deep pass much.

As to the Bono thing why do you not include what Alex has done with his legs? Alex already has more rushing yards in 7 games then Bono did all year 113 yards rushing Bono 218 for Alex Smith. Why did you not include that? I'm pretty sure one can figure out why. You don't want to give any positive for Alex at all. Must be so hard for you that this team is the ONLY unbeaten left.

loochy
10-21-2013, 11:34 AM
As to the Bono thing why do you not include what Alex has done with his legs? Alex already has more rushing yards in 7 games then Bono did all year 113 yards rushing Bono 218 for Alex Smith. Why did you not include that? I'm pretty sure one can figure out why. You don't want to give any positive for Alex at all. Must be so hard for you that this team is the ONLY unbeaten left.

HAS SMITH EVER DONE THIS?

I THINK NOT!

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Halfcan
10-21-2013, 11:34 AM
We have watched 7 games from Alex- enough is enough. He is Not getting any better.

Time to start Bray and get him some expierence before the Playoffs start.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 11:35 AM
HAS SMITH EVER DONE THIS?

I THINK NOT!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/QjQI9Xzivv8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

warrior
10-21-2013, 11:37 AM
We have watched 7 games from Alex- enough is enough. He is Not getting any better.

Time to start Bray and get him some expierence before the Playoffs start.




Never go full claynus :)

Halfcan
10-21-2013, 11:43 AM
Never go full claynus :)

We know Andy is not going to do it- but it would be a great move to give the Offense a spark.

SAUTO
10-21-2013, 11:45 AM
No, I wasn't. But I am able to be objective and fair, unlike some of you. Alex Smith had some good drives today. He made some mistakes, just as I said, but the interception was not his fault. He had a decent day today.
How can anyone say for sure the int wasn't his fault?
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Bearcat
10-21-2013, 11:48 AM
Hey, a new schtick.

warrior
10-21-2013, 11:53 AM
We know Andy is not going to do it- but it would be a great move to give the Offense a spark.




Sorry I disagree -every thing I've read says all the chiefs players love Alex don't think this would be a good move at all.
Offense is coming around, line is getting better, Fasano is back, Alex trusting Bowe more and Alex throwing more down field.




97 yard drive

Sandy Vagina
10-21-2013, 12:00 PM
Sorry I disagree -every thing I've read says all the chiefs players love Alex don't think this would be a good move at all.
Offense is coming around, line is getting better, Fasano is back, Alex trusting Bowe more and Alex throwing more down field.




97 yard drive

I really don't think he's serious. My guess is, he wants to see how it feels to be on the darkside today. :)

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:01 PM
Sorry I disagree -every thing I've read says all the chiefs players love Alex don't think this would be a good move at all.
<b>Offense is coming around</b>, line is getting better, Fasano is back, Alex trusting Bowe more and Alex throwing more down field.




97 yard drive

LMAO

warrior
10-21-2013, 12:06 PM
I can't even imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy 7-0 because you are locked into a pathetic attempt to save face because you opened your big mouth all offseason. Sucks to be you right now.






LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

burt
10-21-2013, 12:11 PM
Goodness......Alex sucks all the way to 7-0........

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:17 PM
Goodness......Alex sucks all the way to 7-0........

Alex sucks. The defense is carrying the team right now. They are fucking pace to break the 85 Bears sack record and are doing shit that hasn't been done since the Raven teams of 7-8 years ago. They're giving up 2.4 points per game in the 4th quarter.

Which Alex stat jumps out at you the most? The 58% comp percentage? The 79 QB rating? The whopping 1 TD pass a game? He's been pathetic. The Alex-Haters won this battle. We just have to hope and pray the team can win a playoff game inspite of Alice and than get someone next year that can actually move the chains and score some points. Enough of this Dilfer shit.

saphojunkie
10-21-2013, 12:18 PM
Alex sucks. The defense is carrying the team right now. They are ****ing pace to break the 85 Bears sack record and are doing shit that hasn't been done since the Raven teams of 7-8 years ago. They're giving up 2.4 points per game in the 4th quarter.

Which Alex stat jumps out at you the most? The 58% comp percentage? The 79 QB rating? The whopping 1 TD pass a game? He's been pathetic. The Alex-Haters won this battle. We just have to hope and pray the team can win a playoff game inspite of Alice and than get someone next year that can actually move the chains and score some points. Enough of this Dilfer shit.

Every time you type, the cement dries a little more on your stupidity.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 12:22 PM
Alex sucks. The defense is carrying the team right now. They are ****ing pace to break the 85 Bears sack record and are doing shit that hasn't been done since the Raven teams of 7-8 years ago. They're giving up 2.4 points per game in the 4th quarter.

Which Alex stat jumps out at you the most? The 58% comp percentage? The 79 QB rating? The whopping 1 TD pass a game? He's been pathetic. The Alex-Haters won this battle. We just have to hope and pray the team can win a playoff game inspite of Alice and than get someone next year that can actually move the chains and score some points. Enough of this Dilfer shit.

Alex will be your QB next season.

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 12:22 PM
Alex sucks. The defense is carrying the team right now. They are ****ing pace to break the 85 Bears sack record and are doing shit that hasn't been done since the Raven teams of 7-8 years ago. They're giving up 2.4 points per game in the 4th quarter.

Which Alex stat jumps out at you the most? The 58% comp percentage? The 79 QB rating? The whopping 1 TD pass a game? He's been pathetic. The Alex-Haters won this battle. We just have to hope and pray the team can win a playoff game inspite of Alice and than get someone next year that can actually move the chains and score some points. Enough of this Dilfer shit.

26-5-1 the guy just wins!

ShowtimeSBMVP
10-21-2013, 12:23 PM
218 yards rushing not bad.

ChiefsCountry
10-21-2013, 12:23 PM
Alex is pretty much playing how I expected him to. The QB play would put us on our way to a 6-10 season. Our defense has just been lights out amazing.

BigBeauford
10-21-2013, 12:23 PM
What's wrong with wanting this team to improve at the qb position? It doesn't mean we aren't happy with the team as a whole. Great organizations will always make improvements to stay on top. If they didn't, we would still have windows 95 since computers couldn't "get much better".

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 12:29 PM
What's wrong with wanting this team to improve at the qb position? It doesn't mean we aren't happy with the team as a whole. Great organizations will always make improvements to stay on top. If they didn't, we would still have windows 95 since computers couldn't "get much better".

The problem is some people think there's only 1 guy that needs to improve. You can't expect this young offensive scheme to execute perfectly every possession. Although you can see that they are getting it done when they absolutely needed to. If they continue to build on it they should be executing a lot better in the future and that falls on everyone on the offense not just 1 guy.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:29 PM
What's wrong with wanting this team to improve at the qb position? It doesn't mean we aren't happy with the team as a whole. Great organizations will always make improvements to stay on top. If they didn't, we would still have windows 95 since computers couldn't "get much better".

Why do you hate the Chiefs so?

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:30 PM
Alex will be your QB next season.

Muther fuck you!

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:31 PM
26-5-1 the guy just wins!

And that has nothing to do with being saddled with top 3 defenses. Holy fuck, people are stupid.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:32 PM
Every time you type, the cement dries a little more on your stupidity.

Sorry man. I've seen your post. Being opposite of you on anything is usually the right way to go. CoMo esque if you will.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:32 PM
The problem is some people think there's only 1 guy that needs to improve. You can't expect this young offensive scheme to execute perfectly every possession. Although you can see that they are getting it done when they absolutely needed to. If they continue to build on it they should be executing a lot better in the future and that falls on everyone on the offense not just 1 guy.

The offense didn't get it done when it absolutely needed to though.

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 12:35 PM
The offense didn't get it done when it absolutely needed to though.

Are you saying they didn't get the lead and lost a couple of games, what are you talking about?

tooge
10-21-2013, 12:38 PM
Alex sucks. The defense is carrying the team right now. They are ****ing pace to break the 85 Bears sack record and are doing shit that hasn't been done since the Raven teams of 7-8 years ago. They're giving up 2.4 points per game in the 4th quarter.

Which Alex stat jumps out at you the most? The 58% comp percentage? The 79 QB rating? The whopping 1 TD pass a game? He's been pathetic. The Alex-Haters won this battle. We just have to hope and pray the team can win a playoff game inspite of Alice and than get someone next year that can actually move the chains and score some points. Enough of this Dilfer shit.

whats his completion percentage if three well thrown balls arent dropped by Bowe and Fasano yesterday? What about the fact that he hit Bowe for a pass that would have iced the game had Bowe not dropped in on a slant route. The receivers aren't getting open very often, when they do, either the O line is a sieve, or the receivers drop the pass. I'll concede that Smith has missed some open guys, but to say that he is the sole reason the offense is sputtering is complete BS.

saphojunkie
10-21-2013, 12:38 PM
Sorry man. I've seen your post. Being opposite of you on anything is usually the right way to go. CoMo esque if you will.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 12:39 PM
Are you saying they didn't get the lead and lost a couple of games, what are you talking about?

I believe Sorter's point is that we had one drive that was worth a shit in the second half - and it didn't result in points. This, despite numerous opporunities to put the Texans away.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:41 PM
Are you saying they didn't get the lead and lost a couple of games, what are you talking about?

I think in most games, it's necessary that the offense scores on the drive Smith missed McBeard (at least 3 to make it 7 to win).

Not putting all the blame on Alex on that series but it'd be nice if we could have turned that into points. Don't disagree with the PC either (I'd have done the exact same thing), just a bit concerned.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 12:41 PM
I believe Sorter's point is that we had one drive that was worth a shit in the second half - and it didn't result in points. This, despite numerous opporunities to put the Texans away.

Get out of my head! ROFL

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 12:42 PM
I believe Sorter's point is that we had one drive that was worth a shit in the second half - and it didn't result in points. This, despite numerous opporunities to put the Texans away.

So they lost? I still don't get it. That 97 yard drive was needed to win the game, if it doesn't happen then yes bitch all you want.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 12:43 PM
So they lost? I still don't get it. That 97 yard drive was needed to win the game, if it doesn't happen then yes bitch all you want.

I bitch all I want either way.

saphojunkie
10-21-2013, 12:44 PM
I bitch all I want either way.

We noticed.

Bearcat
10-21-2013, 12:44 PM
What's wrong with wanting this team to improve at the qb position? It doesn't mean we aren't happy with the team as a whole. Great organizations will always make improvements to stay on top. If they didn't, we would still have windows 95 since computers couldn't "get much better".

Don't bother... you either like watching them beat shitty teams or you're a hater. None of this crap about enjoying wins with an eye on the big picture.

I'm still trying to figure out how Keenum was completing passes down field yesterday. If we're supposed to wait several weeks for a vet to start throwing down field, I'd think it would take a rookie most of a season to do the same. 10ypa is at least 10th year stuff.

ShowtimeSBMVP
10-21-2013, 12:49 PM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/10/alexsmithghosthandoff.gif


This was a huge play by Smith on a broken play. Alex will never get any love.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:51 PM
whats his completion percentage if three well thrown balls arent dropped by Bowe and Fasano yesterday? What about the fact that he hit Bowe for a pass that would have iced the game had Bowe not dropped in on a slant route. The receivers aren't getting open very often, when they do, either the O line is a sieve, or the receivers drop the pass. I'll concede that Smith has missed some open guys, but to say that he is the sole reason the offense is sputtering is complete BS.

No, he's not the sole reason, but look at Rivers in San Diego. He continues to light it up with whatever WR and lineman they plug in from week to week. And hell, people were claiming AS was as good if not better going in. In the end Alex Smith is only as good as his supporting cast. He doesn't make players better, and the Chiefs need to try to keep looking for guys at the QB position that actually make players better.

Nightfyre
10-21-2013, 12:52 PM
LMAO really great decision there Alex. Your read-option choice was just made for you. What are you going to do?

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 12:54 PM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/10/alexsmithghosthandoff.gif


This was a huge play by Smith on a broken play. Alex will never get any love.

The best thing about Alice this year has been his ability to make plays with his legs. I'll give him that.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 12:55 PM
Muther **** you!

Lol, sorry, but's it's true. You will end up with a number one seed in the playoffs, win your divisional round at least, and Alex will be back next season. Get used to him.

On the other hand, the success will start to win you over, and you will grudgingly begin to accept the inevitable. So it's not all bad.

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 12:59 PM
LMAO really great decision there Alex. Your read-option choice was just made for you. What are you going to do?

Maybe he should've done this so your bitching would be valid...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/003/364/320/hi-res-181566373_crop_650x440.jpg?1379892179

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 01:01 PM
Muther **** you!

You know, he is inching his way up in the rankings. No. 20. About 250 yards separates him from No. 10.

Bearcat
10-21-2013, 01:08 PM
Lol, sorry, but's it's true. You will end up with a number one seed in the playoffs, win your divisional round at least, and Alex will be back next season. Get used to him.

On the other hand, the success will start to win you over, and you will grudgingly begin to accept the inevitable. So it's not all bad.

The only success that matters in the long run is playoff success, and if he has that, he'll certainly win me over, since it would mean he's not the QB that he's proven to be for the past 8+ years. Being able to play with the big boys in the regular season can go a long way, too, but it's the NFL, so the chances aren't there very often.

If they get swept by the Broncos, lose to the Colts, etc; and then go one and done in the playoffs, it's certainly not time to panic... but, it would obviously be disappointing if they turned around and signed Smith to a long term deal with no thought to drafting another QB, even if it would be just another Chiefs offseason.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 01:15 PM
The only success that matters in the long run is playoff success, and if he has that, he'll certainly win me over, since it would mean he's not the QB that he's proven to be for the past 8+ years. Being able to play with the big boys in the regular season can go a long way, too, but it's the NFL, so the chances aren't there very often.

If they get swept by the Broncos, lose to the Colts, etc; and then go one and done in the playoffs, it's certainly not time to panic... but, it would obviously be disappointing if they turned around and signed Smith to a long term deal with no thought to drafting another QB, even if it would be just another Chiefs offseason.

Well, Alex is 1-1 in the playoffs. One impressive game, and one "not so much."

But really, wouldn't you want to draft a QB anyway?

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 01:16 PM
You know, he is inching his way up in the rankings. No. 20. About 250 yards separates him from No. 10.

Yeah, it helps when QB's get hurt and miss some games, however I think Wilson and Newton also pass Alice up if they stay healthy. Of course right now that fact that some teams have had a bye week and some have not make that stat irrelevant. It's more about YPG and Alice is still 25th in that.

Bearcat
10-21-2013, 01:22 PM
Well, Alex is 1-1 in the playoffs. One impressive game, and one "not so much."

But really, wouldn't you want to draft a QB anyway?

Yeah, that's been a dream of mine for about 20 years... live long enough to see the Chiefs draft a QB in the first round. When they picked up Smith, that was the best case scenario as far as I'm concerned... let Smith help bring the team back to respectability, knowing a QB will need to be drafted sooner than later. If Smith proves otherwise, it's not as urgent of a need obviously, but would still be nice.

saphojunkie
10-21-2013, 01:26 PM
Yeah, that's been a dream of mine for about 20 years... live long enough to see the Chiefs draft a QB in the first round. When they picked up Smith, that was the best case scenario as far as I'm concerned... let Smith help bring the team back to respectability, knowing a QB will need to be drafted sooner than later. If Smith proves otherwise, it's not as urgent of a need obviously, but would still be nice.

This is exactly what I have thought since they traded for him. This team was never going to turn the ship around going 5-11. You have to have the players actively wanting to participate and improve. How much more willing are they to come in for extra film sessions, extra lifting sessions, staying late with postion coaches and playing 100% every snap, when they know their QB won't just piss the game away with a turnover in his own red zone?

Two second round picks wasn't the cost of a starting QB. It was the cost of a complete paradigm shift for the whole organization.

I still hold out hope that a QB will be selected in the first round this year or next.

DaWolf
10-21-2013, 01:26 PM
Smith is struggling to put up great numbers, that's obvious. I can give him a pass against the Texans because this is a team that has the No 1 defense and held Russell Wilson to 12/23 for 123 and 1 pick. In fact Smith is the only QB this year to pass for over 200 yards against them IIRC.

That said, he's going to need to pick it up against some of the more mediocre defenses we play in the 2nd half of the season...

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 01:29 PM
Yeah, that's been a dream of mine for about 20 years... live long enough to see the Chiefs draft a QB in the first round. When they picked up Smith, that was the best case scenario as far as I'm concerned... let Smith help bring the team back to respectability, knowing a QB will need to be drafted sooner than later. If Smith proves otherwise, it's not as urgent of a need obviously, but would still be nice.

It certainly worked out well for the Packers, and I think CK benefited from not being thrown into the fire as a rookie.

One interesting question that will never be answered is if the Niners had drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith, whether they would have ruined him the way the Niners ruined Alex.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 01:34 PM
It certainly worked out well for the Packers, and I think CK benefited from not being thrown into the fire as a rookie.

<b>One interesting question that will never be answered is if the Niners had drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith, whether they would have ruined him the way the Niners ruined Alex.</b>

No fucking way. Rodgers was going to be a beast no matter what happened. You can't ruin that athletic ability and ability to throw the football.

O.city
10-21-2013, 01:35 PM
No ****ing way. Rodgers was going to be a beast no matter what happened. You can't ruin that athletic ability and ability to throw the football.

You do realize they completely changed his throwing motion and mechanics in those 4 years right?

O.city
10-21-2013, 01:36 PM
FWIW, I thought yesterday was our best offensive game all year. OL, QB, WR, RB's, TE's all the way around.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 01:37 PM
You do realize they completely changed his throwing motion and mechanics in those 4 years right?

Yeah, they did the same for Tebow to. Talent wins out.

seaofred
10-21-2013, 01:38 PM
One interesting question that will never be answered is if the Niners had drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith, whether they would have ruined him the way the Niners ruined Alex.

No doubt in my mind Aaron Rodgers would have been ruinned. Just like David Carr in Houston and Tim Couch in Cleveland.

O.city
10-21-2013, 01:40 PM
Yeah, they did the same for Tebow to. Talent wins out.

I guess I missed where Tebow sat for 4 years and had his throwing mechanics completely changed.

philfree
10-21-2013, 01:42 PM
Smith is struggling to put up great numbers, that's obvious. I can give him a pass against the Texans because this is a team that has the No 1 defense and held Russell Wilson to 12/23 for 123 and 1 pick. In fact Smith is the only QB this year to pass for over 200 yards against them IIRC.

That said, he's going to need to pick it up against some of the more mediocre defenses we play in the 2nd half of the season...

That's an interesting stat. To bad the ref blew the call on the Fasano TD play. That one play probably would have added 10 points to Alex's QB rating and would have quelled some of todays Alex bashing. In the end I thought Alex had a decent game against a top D. 67.6% completions with 7.1 avg about 28 rushing yards with a TD and a 72.2 QBR. And most importantly another win.

Mav
10-21-2013, 01:44 PM
No ****ing way. Rodgers was going to be a beast no matter what happened. You can't ruin that athletic ability and ability to throw the football.

You are completely wrong here.

Here is why. Aaron Rodgers first two years in the league, he ended up in the IR. He would of been destroyed by Mike Nolan, who played up to the media that Alex Smith was a pussy because he couldn't play through a MAJOR SHOULDER INJURY.

Aaron Rodgers, is a cocky hot head who would of imploded in Ryan Leaf fashion had he been stuck in SF.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 01:48 PM
No ****ing way. Rodgers was going to be a beast no matter what happened. You can't ruin that athletic ability and ability to throw the football.

Not even with a separated shoulder, the Head Coach then calling the injured QB out in the media while having a separated shoulder (which ultimately required two surgeries)?

That's only part of it, of course. One of the many "Alexcuses."

My guess, notwithstanding that being drafted by the Niners was Rodgers' dream in life, probably not a day goes by that he doesn't thank his lucky stars that the Niners passed on him.

DaWolf
10-21-2013, 01:52 PM
No ****ing way. Rodgers was going to be a beast no matter what happened. You can't ruin that athletic ability and ability to throw the football.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9842765/bill-barnwell-carson-palmer

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 02:01 PM
You are completely wrong here.

Here is why. Aaron Rodgers first two years in the league, he ended up in the IR. He would of been destroyed by Mike Nolan, who played up to the media that Alex Smith was a pussy because he couldn't play through a MAJOR SHOULDER INJURY.

Aaron Rodgers, is a cocky hot head who would of imploded in Ryan Leaf fashion had he been stuck in SF.

I wanted the 9ers to take Aaron Rodgers, luckily for him they didn't. We took Alex and he has handled it all pretty well, where I think most guys would have given up.

Did anyone see how pissed he was towards the end of the game before the play to Bowe... where he dropped the slant to ice the game? He was in the face of one of the coaches. I wonder what that was all about. I think it was Chad Hall that had to calm him down.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 02:03 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9842765/bill-barnwell-carson-palmer

Yeah, I suppose an ACL tear might ruin some talent.

BryanBusby
10-21-2013, 02:49 PM
Yeah, I suppose an ACL tear might ruin some talent.
Yeah, that's why he had his best season after tearing it.

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 02:51 PM
This drive was crazy good...


Kansas City Chiefs at 07:31
1-10-KC 3
(7:31) (Run formation) PENALTY on KC-42-A.Sherman, False Start, 1 yard, enforced at KC 3 - No Play.
1-11-KC 2
(7:31) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 3 for 1 yard (59-W.Mercilus).
2-10-KC 3
(7:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 80-A.Fasano to KC 9 for 6 yards (51-D.Sharpton).
Timeout #1 by KC at 06:26.
3-4-KC 9
(6:26) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to KC 25 for 16 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-KC 25
(5:47) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles to KC 34 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
2-1-KC 34
(5:07) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 38 for 4 yards (53-J.Mays).
1-10-KC 38
(4:36) (No Huddle) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 40 for 2 yards (36-D.Swearinger).
2-8-KC 40
(4:02) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 84-S.McGrath to KC 41 for 1 yard (25-K.Jackson).
3-7-KC 41
(3:23) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 48 for 11 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-HOU 48
(3:02) (Shotgun) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 42 for 6 yards (59-W.Mercilus).
2-4-HOU 42
(2:21) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 25 for 17 yards (20-E.Reed).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-HOU 25
(2:00) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 21 for 4 yards (96-T.Jamison).
2-6-HOU 21
(1:25) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at HOU 14 for 7 yards (20-E.Reed).
1-10-HOU 14
(1:18) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to HOU 5 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
Timeout #2 by KC at 01:03.
2-1-HOU 5
(1:03) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 42-A.Sherman.
3-1-HOU 5
(:59) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith up the middle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Also Alex completed passes to 8 different guys including one to himself on the day!

I don't like how they're using AJ Jenkins, whenever he's brought in it's almost always a deep shot and the other teams know this. He was bracketed by 3 guys yesterday on a deep route and last week he was as well. They need to figure out how to get him one on one and use his speed, like Andy did with DeSean Jackson.

JENKINSWINS
10-21-2013, 02:53 PM
This drive was crazy good...


Kansas City Chiefs at 07:31
1-10-KC 3
(7:31) (Run formation) PENALTY on KC-42-A.Sherman, False Start, 1 yard, enforced at KC 3 - No Play.
1-11-KC 2
(7:31) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 3 for 1 yard (59-W.Mercilus).
2-10-KC 3
(7:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 80-A.Fasano to KC 9 for 6 yards (51-D.Sharpton).
Timeout #1 by KC at 06:26.
3-4-KC 9
(6:26) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to KC 25 for 16 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-KC 25
(5:47) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles to KC 34 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
2-1-KC 34
(5:07) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 38 for 4 yards (53-J.Mays).
1-10-KC 38
(4:36) (No Huddle) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 40 for 2 yards (36-D.Swearinger).
2-8-KC 40
(4:02) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 84-S.McGrath to KC 41 for 1 yard (25-K.Jackson).
3-7-KC 41
(3:23) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 48 for 11 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-HOU 48
(3:02) (Shotgun) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 42 for 6 yards (59-W.Mercilus).
2-4-HOU 42
(2:21) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 25 for 17 yards (20-E.Reed).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-HOU 25
(2:00) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 21 for 4 yards (96-T.Jamison).
2-6-HOU 21
(1:25) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at HOU 14 for 7 yards (20-E.Reed).
1-10-HOU 14
(1:18) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to HOU 5 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
Timeout #2 by KC at 01:03.
2-1-HOU 5
(1:03) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 42-A.Sherman.
3-1-HOU 5
(:59) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith up the middle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Also Alex completed passes to 8 different guys including one to himself on the day!

I don't like how they're using AJ Jenkins, whenever he's brought in it's almost always a deep shot and the other teams know this. He was bracketed by 3 guys yesterday on a deep route and last week he was as well. They need to figure out how to get him one on one and use his speed, like Andy did with DeSean Jackson.

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 02:59 PM
Yeah, that's why he had his best season after tearing it.

No, his best season was 05 before the tear than he started to decline in a bit from his elite 05 season before falling off a cliff.

rabblerouser
10-21-2013, 03:00 PM
We have watched 7 games from Alex- enough is enough. He is Not getting any better.

Time to start Bray and get him some expierence before the Playoffs start.

not sure if serious...

BigCatDaddy
10-21-2013, 03:04 PM
not sure if serious...

He's not, but ironically that's better than his normal post.

Easy 6
10-21-2013, 03:04 PM
Smith is struggling to put up great numbers, that's obvious. I can give him a pass against the Texans because this is a team that has the No 1 defense and held Russell Wilson to 12/23 for 123 and 1 pick. In fact Smith is the only QB this year to pass for over 200 yards against them IIRC.


No no no, this thread is for crying about him, not pointing out really good things.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 03:43 PM
Smith is struggling to put up great numbers, that's obvious. I can give him a pass against the Texans because this is a team that has the No 1 defense and held Russell Wilson to 12/23 for 123 and 1 pick. In fact Smith is the only QB this year to pass for over 200 yards against them IIRC.

That said, he's going to need to pick it up against some of the more mediocre defenses we play in the 2nd half of the season...

That's actually slightly impressive.

I'm glad Alex wasn't a total dumpster fire this week.

This is why we made that trade!

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 04:41 PM
Here we go folks. The new rankings are in. And it's not pretty. Again.

Alex Smith is:


23rd in yards per game
26th in completion percentage
29th in yards per attempt
28th in yards per completion
22nd in QB rating
28th in TD percentage/25th in TDs


PFF still hates Alex Smith. They rank the Chiefs' passing game as third worst.

Alex is:

35th in pass rating
33rd in PFF QB rating
20th in accuracy percentage
32nd in 20+ yard attempts (13)
32nd in 20+ yard completions (4)
29th in accuracy percentage under pressure


For the season, when throwing passes outside the numbers and over 10 yards, Alex is a pathetic 10 for 33.

Alex has completed 30 passes behind the line of scrimmage and 26 over 9 yards.

Additional statistics which are 100 percent his fault:


27th on third down
21st in offensive scoring - 19.1 points per game


It all adds up to:

7-http://i.imgur.com/pwvimpJ.png

Halfcan
10-21-2013, 04:48 PM
Only 4 freakin passes over 20 yards? I knew it was bad-but that is pathetic. Colts and donks had more last night alone.

ViperVisor
10-21-2013, 04:53 PM
For the season, when throwing passes outside the numbers and over 10 yards, Alex is a pathetic 10 for 33.

Sunday
- Brady was 1-for-10 for 13 yards on passes beyond 10 yards and outside the numbers

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 04:57 PM
Sunday
- Brady was 1-for-10 for 13 yards on passes beyond 10 yards and outside the numbers

Brady had a poor game, but we can't fault him for not keeping pace with The Great Geno Smith.

Tom Brady is also having a poor season, but still has 9 deep completions.

Tom Brady's worst year is better than Alex Smith's best year.

saphojunkie
10-21-2013, 04:58 PM
Sunday
- Brady was 1-for-10 for 13 yards on passes beyond 10 yards and outside the numbers

Time to bench Brady and see what they have in Mallett.

Bearcat
10-21-2013, 05:00 PM
Sunday
- Brady was 1-for-10 for 13 yards on passes beyond 10 yards and outside the numbers

Ah, ChiefsPlanet... where the argument to weeks or seasons worth of stats is one bad day by one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

ViperVisor
10-21-2013, 05:01 PM
Brady had a poor game, but we can't fault him for not keeping pace with The Great Geno Smith.
Tom Brady's worst year is better than Alex Smith's best year.

01-03 is about the same as 2011.

Smith's 2011 is certainly better than Brady this year is you don't wanna count half of 2012 as a year.

Halfcan
10-21-2013, 05:02 PM
Lol, sorry, but's it's true. You will end up with a number one seed in the playoffs, win your divisional round at least, and Alex will be back next season. Get used to him.

On the other hand, the success will start to win you over, and you will grudgingly begin to accept the inevitable. So it's not all bad.

Alex is losing more supporters with his uninspiring play than gaining because of our record.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 05:07 PM
01-03 is about the same as 2011.

Smith's 2011 is certainly better than Brady this year is you don't wanna count half of 2012 as a year.

It's 2013.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 06:21 PM
Alex is losing more supporters with his uninspiring play than gaining because of our record.

Is he getting booed in KC?

BryanBusby
10-21-2013, 06:25 PM
No, his best season was 05 before the tear than he started to decline in a bit from his elite 05 season before falling off a cliff.

Got my years mixed up! Anywho, the actual problem was an elbow injury he suffered after the torn ACL.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 06:29 PM
Is he getting booed in KC?

I heard some boos at Arrowhead against the Raiders for sure.

NinerDoug
10-21-2013, 06:47 PM
I heard some boos at Arrowhead against the Raiders for sure.

Harder to tell on TV. Haven't heard the commentators say anything about it.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 06:55 PM
Harder to tell on TV. Haven't heard the commentators say anything about it.

There was definitely booing as the offense came off the field after one possession Alex Smithed.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-21-2013, 07:16 PM
We know Andy is not going to do it- but it would be a great move to give the Offense a spark.

Bray is not ready. He needs to clearly win the #2 next season, and we can go from there.

Halfcan
10-21-2013, 07:28 PM
Bray is not ready. He needs to clearly win the #2 next season, and we can go from there.

I thought he was clearly the #2 this year- the kid played with a lot of fire-unlike Chase.

Look I have been keeping an open mind about Alex even to the point of being accused of Homerism- I wanted to see first hand what Alex brought to the table-Not base it on old stats, ect..

I really have not liked what I have been seeing. He was outplayed by an undrafted rookie- and thats a fact.

If he plays like shit again this week against the Browns and fails to throw a TD again- time to get the Banners flying-lol

Halfcan
10-21-2013, 07:31 PM
Is he getting booed in KC?

They cheered at the start of the game when he was announced with the Offense. After the Int and then the bungled TD from the one- half my section was pissed and booing him.

I didn't boo- I had Houston fans behind us and figured why give them the satisfaction.

Case outplayed Alex by a large margin.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-21-2013, 07:37 PM
I thought he was clearly the #2 this year- the kid played with a lot of fire-unlike Chase.

Look I have been keeping an open mind about Alex even to the point of being accused of Homerism- I wanted to see first hand what Alex brought to the table-Not base it on old stats, ect..

I really have not liked what I have been seeing. He was outplayed by an undrafted rookie- and thats a fact.

If he plays like shit again this week against the Browns and fails to throw a TD again- time to get the Banners flying-lol

Unfortunately, what you or I think about who deserves which roster spot means jack and shit. I want all of our QB prospects, not just Bray, brought through the system the right way. I can be patient and enjoy the Axl Circus until it has run it's course.

Which, as it's looking(yes that includes the 7-0 record, dumbasses), will probably be sooner rather than later.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 08:41 PM
HAS SMITH EVER DONE THIS?

I THINK NOT!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/QjQI9Xzivv8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That is the slowest 76 yard TD run ever. Smith is way faster than Bono.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 08:42 PM
We have watched 7 games from Alex- enough is enough. He is Not getting any better.

Time to start Bray and get him some expierence before the Playoffs start.

If we start Bray now there is a good chance there won't be any playoffs for us.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 08:45 PM
The offense didn't get it done when it absolutely needed to though.

You mean we lost? I must have missed that.

Coach
10-21-2013, 08:46 PM
Well, one thing is certain....

Freeman looks to be much much much worse than Smiff....

Sorter
10-21-2013, 08:53 PM
You mean we lost? I must have missed that.

I don't believe that's what I said.

Also really unsure why you'd ever respond to someone who isn't a MVP winning QB.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:04 PM
I don't believe that's what I said.

Also really unsure why you'd ever respond to someone who isn't a MVP winning QB.

You said he failed to get a TD when we really needed it. If we won why do you think we really needed it? Your statement would only make sense if we had lost because he failed to get a TD on that drive.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:09 PM
You said he failed to get a TD when we really needed it. If we won why do you think we really needed it? Your statement would only make sense if we had lost because he failed to get a TD on that drive.

In most scenarios, it's incredibly important that at least 3 points are put up in that instance.


If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you. I also encourage you to not pay any attention to anyone not named Rich Gannon, as you suggested.

Chiefspants
10-21-2013, 09:10 PM
You said he failed to get a TD when we really needed it. If we won why do you think we really needed it? Your statement would only make sense if we had lost because he failed to get a TD on that drive.

http://abload.de/img/footballwelkerstare1n7srb.gif

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:12 PM
http://abload.de/img/footballwelkerstare1n7srb.gif

ROFL

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:14 PM
Cleese on splatbass:


http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/492012211119fsgdf.gif

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:16 PM
In most scenarios, it's incredibly important that at least 3 points are put up in that instance.


If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you. I also encourage you to not pay any attention to anyone not named Rich Gannon, as you suggested.

Did we win, or not? Was a score there needed for us to win, or not?

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:17 PM
Cleese on splatbass:


http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/492012211119fsgdf.gif

I haven't insulted you. If the only way you can win an argument is to insult me you don't have much of an argument. Or maturity.

Marcellus
10-21-2013, 09:20 PM
"Highest win % of any QB the last 2.5 years. Suck that." - Alex Smith.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-21-2013, 09:24 PM
"Highest win % of any QB the last 2.5 years. Suck that." - Alex Smith.

Marty Approves!

Marcellus
10-21-2013, 09:28 PM
Marty Approves!

Great comeback! Completely disproves the point right? Were you breathing through your mouth and nose as you typed it?

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 09:28 PM
The win percentage crap needs to stop.

Alex wins now because of the same reasons he won in SF. Elite defense.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:29 PM
I haven't insulted you. If the only way you can win an argument is to insult me you don't have much of an argument. Or maturity.

LMAO.


I still don't understand why refuse to answer my question: Why do you care about someone's opinion that you clearly dislike and isn't Rich Gannon?


Side question: Are you Denise's long-distance lover?

mattschiefs
10-21-2013, 09:29 PM
This drive was crazy good...


Kansas City Chiefs at 07:31
1-10-KC 3
(7:31) (Run formation) PENALTY on KC-42-A.Sherman, False Start, 1 yard, enforced at KC 3 - No Play.
1-11-KC 2
(7:31) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 3 for 1 yard (59-W.Mercilus).
2-10-KC 3
(7:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 80-A.Fasano to KC 9 for 6 yards (51-D.Sharpton).
Timeout #1 by KC at 06:26.
3-4-KC 9
(6:26) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to KC 25 for 16 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-KC 25
(5:47) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles to KC 34 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
2-1-KC 34
(5:07) 25-J.Charles up the middle to KC 38 for 4 yards (53-J.Mays).
1-10-KC 38
(4:36) (No Huddle) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 40 for 2 yards (36-D.Swearinger).
2-8-KC 40
(4:02) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 84-S.McGrath to KC 41 for 1 yard (25-K.Jackson).
3-7-KC 41
(3:23) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 48 for 11 yards (31-S.Keo).
1-10-HOU 48
(3:02) (Shotgun) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 42 for 6 yards (59-W.Mercilus).
2-4-HOU 42
(2:21) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 17-D.Avery pushed ob at HOU 25 for 17 yards (20-E.Reed).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-HOU 25
(2:00) 25-J.Charles up the middle to HOU 21 for 4 yards (96-T.Jamison).
2-6-HOU 21
(1:25) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at HOU 14 for 7 yards (20-E.Reed).
1-10-HOU 14
(1:18) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 82-D.Bowe to HOU 5 for 9 yards (25-K.Jackson).
Timeout #2 by KC at 01:03.
2-1-HOU 5
(1:03) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 42-A.Sherman.
3-1-HOU 5
(:59) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith up the middle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Also Alex completed passes to 8 different guys including one to himself on the day!

I don't like how they're using AJ Jenkins, whenever he's brought in it's almost always a deep shot and the other teams know this. He was bracketed by 3 guys yesterday on a deep route and last week he was as well. They need to figure out how to get him one on one and use his speed, like Andy did with DeSean Jackson.
A long drive not set up by the defense on a short field

Smith hater reaction

IT NEVER HAPPENED

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:31 PM
LMAO.


I still don't understand why refuse to answer my question: Why do you care about someone's opinion that you clearly dislike and isn't Rich Gannon?


Side question: Are you Denise's long-distance lover?

Grow up. If you can.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 09:31 PM
Alex is an NFL QB. Occasionally, it's nice that he can lead a scoring drive.

If only he did it more.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-21-2013, 09:31 PM
Great comeback! Completely disproves the point right? Were you breathing through your mouth and nose as you typed it?

Statistical correlation. Marty was the WINNINGEST COACH IN FRANCHISE HISTORY.

Winning jack AND shit in the end.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:32 PM
The win percentage crap needs to stop.



Why? They are the most valid of stats.

Marcellus
10-21-2013, 09:32 PM
The win percentage crap needs to stop.

Alex wins now because of the same reasons he won in SF. Elite defense.

Lets keep listening to you because you are a successful.....................damn I am looking for something here................................................................................................ ................................................video pirate?

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:33 PM
Grow up. If you can.

If I can't, will you answer my previous post?

Gravedigger
10-21-2013, 09:34 PM
Alex is not the right QB for this team. If we're serious about competing for a Super Bowl through defense we need a better QB. There is no reason to try with Trent Dilfer when we could have a Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco at worst. It is why SF made the move they did last year.

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:34 PM
If I can't, will you answer my previous post?

Your previous post is stupid and sophomoric, so why would I waste my time?

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 09:37 PM
Why? They are the most valid of stats.

It's a team stat, and should not be used to judge individuals.

10 for 33...now that's a fucking stat.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:38 PM
Your previous post is stupid and sophomoric, so why would I waste my time?

Because you're wasting your time right now. I mean, was the post you quoted really that much less stupid? Probably not, yet you responded to it just the same.



Let's face it. You're kinda a stalker.

ShowtimeSBMVP
10-21-2013, 09:40 PM
It's a team stat, and should not be used to judge individuals.

10 for 33...now that's a ****ing stat.

Football is the Ultimate Team Sport. Wins is all that matter.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 09:41 PM
Football is the Ultimate Team Sport.

I agree. Alex is lucky to have played on great teams the last 2.5 years. He has fooled a lot of people.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:42 PM
I will say this, for as much as splatbass stalks me, he has yet to start sending me creepy PMs/rep messages ala Blackbob and Joey.

O.city
10-21-2013, 09:43 PM
Sling it cassel

mattschiefs
10-21-2013, 09:45 PM
I agree. Alex is lucky to have played on great teams the last 2.5 years. He has fooled a lot of people.

Smith didn't fool anyone. FF fooled you into thinking that football is all about Yards YPC YAC yards that you go on and on about

splatbass
10-21-2013, 09:47 PM
It's a team stat, and should not be used to judge individuals.

10 for 33...now that's a ****ing stat.

The only stat that gets you to the SB is wins. No other stat matters except for fantasy football and 30 year old virgins living in their parents basement.

Hammock Parties
10-21-2013, 09:48 PM
Smith didn't fool anyone.

He sure fooled you into loving him.

Coach
10-21-2013, 09:48 PM
Freeman is a disaster....

Freeman is 16/46.

Sorter
10-21-2013, 09:51 PM
The only stat that gets you to the SB is wins. No other stat matters except for fantasy football and 30 year old virgins living in their parents basement.

I take back what I said about Fat Elvis earlier today. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.




Do you have any fucking idea how stats are used in collegiate and professional settings? Are you seriously that big of a fucking mongoloid that you can't recognize that statistics + context are some of the most valuable tools when it comes to gameplanning? Do you have any idea how the fuck a game is broken down?