Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Wrong. They started throwing it deep more when Kaepernick came in the game. Almost twice as much.

You mean when Jim change the O for Kaepernick?

[Hammock Parties]

THAT'S MUH QUARTABACK

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[ShowtimeSBMVP]

THAT'S MUH QUARTABACK

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I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

[Direckshun]

You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

You mean when Jim change the O for Kaepernick?

What the hell are you arguing?

"The 49ers offense didn't call for a lot of deep balls. It's not Alex's fault."

then

"They started calling for more deep balls when they changed their offense for a QB who can hit deep passes."

[Hammock Parties]

I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

Well none of those guys have career highs that suck.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

What the hell are you arguing?

"The 49ers offense didn't call for a lot of deep balls. It's not Alex's fault."

then

"They started calling for more deep balls when they changed their offense for a QB who can hit deep passes."

They change it for a running QB.

[Dixie Land]

I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Well none of those guys have career highs that suck.

Can't wait till Geno is a bust.

[Dixie Land]

They change it for a running QB.

Kaep is not a running QB. He employs read-option, WCO. He does occasionally have a run play called for him....Kaep has a cannon arm unlike Smith...

[opposition]

The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

Name one time Alex has ever gotten benched due to poor play please.

[Messier]

The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

Why didn't he stay benched? And why didn't JH just say, see ya Alex, and start over?

[Dixie Land]

Name one time Alex has ever gotten benched due to poor play please.

JT O'Sullivan

Shaun Hill

Troy Smith

Colin Kaepernick

Just off the top of my head....none of these players NONE were put in because of injury (Colin was then turned out to be a better QB Alex was cleared and ready to go)

What say????

[Hammock Parties]

i love that there's a 49ers Alexbater named "opposition" LMAO

[Dixie Land]

Why didn't he stay benched? And why didn't JH just say, see ya Alex, and start over?

HE did thats why KC has him now!!! Next :clap:

[Dixie Land]

i love that there's a 49ers Alexbater named "opposition" LMAO

WOW thats a new one...Prob just another ALEXSEXUAL and ALEXSCUSE disguised....ROFL

[Messier]

HE did thats why KC has him now!!! Next :clap:

No he didn't. He made him his starter twice. Why?

[Dixie Land]

No he didn't. He made him his starter twice. Why?

Smith was the starter when Harbs took over, once Kaep stepped in Smith rode pine and held clipboard...there was no other starting QB even on the roster at all....which made Smith the obvious choice...once Kaep showed his skill set in the games, Smith was toast=benching #8....next :clap:

[opposition]

JT O'Sullivan

Shaun Hill

Troy Smith

Colin Kaepernick

Just off the top of my head....none of these players NONE were put in because of injury (Colin was then turned out to be a better QB Alex was cleared and ready to go)

What say????

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie 20 comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

[Direckshun]

It should also be mentioned that the Troy Smith year was during Singletary's year, when it was clear Singletary had no clue what he was doing.

[Messier]

Smith was the starter when Harbs took over, once Kaep stepped in Smith rode pine and held clipboard...there was no other starting QB even on the roster at all....which made Smith the obvious choice...once Kaep showed his skill set in the games, Smith was toast=benching #8....next :clap:

Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

[Dixie Land]

It should also be mentioned that the Troy Smith year was during Singletary's year, when it was clear Singletary had no clue what he was doing.

Sure he did, he saw that ALEX SUCKED....

[Dixie Land]

Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

There was no one on the roster...hard to say, he would have been released this year due to cap issues and 8.5 million for a noodle arm and Kaep waiting patiently..

[Rasputin]

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injuryJTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone)Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back a couple games later.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

Jesus fuck that is a lot of injuries. What a fucking pussy he is. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Odds he doesn't finnish the season? I bet he doesn't play a full 16 game season this year due to injury.

[Smith2Bench]

Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

[Dixie Land]

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone)
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back a couple games later.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

Almost not quite..the shoulder was good to go, enter Shaun Hill...Sing benched Alex for boring play..JTO Mike Martz was OC and him and Nolin announced JTO starting ,, hey good try....Alex Smith was not concussed..

Colin hard to take him out is far and away a better QB with a higher ceiling than Alex....

So yes Alex was benched to poor play.

[Messier]

There was no one on the roster...hard to say, he would have been released this year due to cap issues and 8.5 million for a noodle arm and Kaep waiting patiently..

Why not go with the better QB to start the season? What with how poorly Smith played, his weak arm, and poor decision making, he'd be justified.

[Dixie Land]

He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

THANKS for clearing this up bro....

[Messier]

He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

[Dixie Land]

Jesus **** that is a lot of injuries. What a ****ing pussy he is. **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

Odds he doesn't finnish the season? I bet he doesn't play a full 16 game season this year due to injury.

THIS he is not mobile in the pocket er or lacks pocket presence and takes sacks like an old lady takes farter starters..

[Smith2Bench]

Almost not quite..the shoulder was good to go, enter Shaun Hill...Sing benched Alex for boring play..JTO Mike Martz was OC and him and Nolin announced Troy starting ,, hey good try....Alex Smith was not concussed..

Colin hard to take him out is far and away a better QB with a higher ceiling than Alex....

So yes Alex was benched to poor play.

Pretty much. Singleterry put in Troy Smith in a critical game to make the playoffs.

The Alex Smith Nutt Huggers will say, "hahaha mike singletery, he sucked."

But Alex's best season statstically was with Singleterry before Harbaugh arrived. But that credit goes to Alex Smith and then QB coach Mike Johnson, who was promoted to OC after Singleterry fired Jimmy Raye.

Smith is responsible for 2 coaches and several OCs getting fired.

[Smith2Bench]

Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

Yes. Kaepernick was playing in spot duties early in the year. I'm not talking about random plays. I'm talking about highly clutch situations in the early parts of game.

For instance, he cane in against the JEts in the redzone when we were tied 0-0 and scored a TD.

This move was coming. It was just a matter of time.

[Dixie Land]

Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

MOOT POINT Colin was breathing down his back and it was obvious Alex was a stopgap to begin with =cause the Ninerz had nobody on the roster (and Alex was paid handsomely despite benchins and lack of talent 54 million )other than Kaep that could possibly take over the starting job..it is obvious the FO wanted to see return on the investment so start Smith...bear in mind the Ninerz have talent in all areas.

[Dixie Land]

Pretty much. Singleterry put in Troy Smith in a critical game to make the playoffs.

The Alex Smith Nutt Huggers will say, "hahaha mike singletery, he sucked."

But Alex's best season statstically was with Singleterry before Harbaugh arrived. But that credit goes to Alex Smith and then QB coach Mike Johnson, who was promoted to OC after Singleterry fired Jimmy Raye.

Smith is responsible for 2 coaches and several OCs getting fired.

YES crybaby Smith....

[Smith2Bench]

Why not go with the better QB to start the season? What with how poorly Smith played, his weak arm, and poor decision making, he'd be justified.

Kaep looked bad in the limited time he had last year. Harbaugh experimented with Kaep early in the year when Smith was looking like...well.. Smith...

Kaep played in spots and eventually came in due to injury. Harbaugh was highly bashed for this move, even by the 49er fans. But it was the right one.

Some of the Alexsexual fans are still butt hurt over the move and thought their golden piss boy Smith would lead us to a superbowl titile. How delusional......

[opposition]

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie. Defense failed to stop brees with 40 seconds left. He had a 20 something point comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.


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[Dixie Land]

Kaep looked bad in the limited time he had last year. Harbaugh experimented with Kaep early in the year when Smith was looking like...well.. Smith...

Kaep played in spots and eventually came in due to injury. Harbaugh was highly bashed for this move, even by the 49er fans. But it was the right one.

Some of the Alexsexual fans are still butt hurt over the move and thought their golden piss boy Smith would lead us to a superbowl titile. How delusional......

THIS is spot on...dead right....I also think the FO =since they paid in excess of 54 million already =wanted to see if their #1 overall bust at QB would pan out....

So year after year for 8 long dreadful years they started this sissy in hopes he would produce and almost every single year he got his pussy bruised or was benched..again and again and again...

[Messier]

We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

[Dixie Land]

We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

Hopefully for the Chief fans he does...in all reality he is a stop gap at best and it may not be long lived due to his lack of physical ability and talent level...hopefully the FO got a bargain for him..:hmmm:

[Smith2Bench]

We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

He did. He went from piss poor bad to mediocre.

And it took an elite roster and coaching staff to get there.

[Dixie Land]

He did. He went from piss poor bad to mediocre.

And it took an elite roster and coaching staff to get there.

CRAP forgot about the piss poor bad part....the mediocre part....and the elite roster and coaching staff...dang it!!!!

Well maybe he can bottle some really good BAR B QUE sauce and name it K C Alexsauce !!! ROFL

[Rasputin]

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie. Defense failed to stop brees with 40 seconds left. He had a 20 something point comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.


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[opposition]

Do you guys really feel like any Qb can really come in and make a difference? If so then who? By reports it seems like the organization and many others don't see Geno as a true #1 pick. Do you waste the pick just because you need a QB? Or do you draft somebody that you feel makes your team better in the long run?

Alex Smith weather you like it or not is/was the best QB out there. Taking a chance on Alex for what he brings to the table i think is worth the chance. If he doesn't work out then cut him. Make a effort at QB next year, maybe even draft someone this year.

Again you guys were 2-14. It's not like you guys are going to be contenders out of the blue, but with Alex there is at least a chance. You seem to have some talented players, and can add more with the number 1 pick(maybe more via trade), and 3 3rd rounders if I'm not mistaken. You also have free agents you can sign. Not to mention a decent/good HC(Very QB friendly just as Harbaugh).

Can Alex come in and get you guys to the playoffs? I dunno. I do think he can at least come in and lay the foundation for you guys. Be a leader in the locker room and not give games away with turnovers. I personally think he is a great fit, and even if he doesn't work out I think what he adds to a team that needs stability.

Paying a 2nd rounder for at the very least a decent "stop-gap", is a big risk, but at the same time it's worth what he will bring.

[Rasputin]

Do you guys really feel like any Qb can really come in and make a difference? If so then who? By reports it seems like the organization and many others don't see Geno as a true #1 pick. Do you waste the pick just because you need a QB? Or do you draft somebody that you feel makes your team better in the long run?

Alex Smith weather you like it or not is/was the best QB out there. Taking a chance on Alex for what he brings to the table i think is worth the chance. If he doesn't work out then cut him. Make a effort at QB next year, maybe even draft someone this year.

Again you guys were 2-14. It's not like you guys are going to be contenders out of the blue, but with Alex there is at least a chance. You seem to have some talented players, and can add more with the number 1 pick(maybe more via trade), and 3 3rd rounders if I'm not mistaken. You also have free agents you can sign. Not to mention a decent/good HC(Very QB friendly just as Harbaugh).

Can Alex come in and get you guys to the playoffs? I dunno. I do think he can at least come in and lay the foundation for you guys. Be a leader in the locker room and not give games away with turnovers. I personally think he is a great fit, and even if he doesn't work out I think what he adds to a team that needs stability.

Paying a 2nd rounder for at the very least a decent "stop-gap", is a big risk, but at the same time it's worth what he will bring.

Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

[Dixie Land]

Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

Def not a forward thinking move by the FO...maybe use Alex as tradebait??:hmmm:

[opposition]

Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

What are your feelings of Matt Barkley? You think possibly move back draft him and get your second back is an option?

[ChiefsCountry]

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

[Rasputin]

What are your feelings of Matt Barkley? You think possibly move back draft him and get your second back is an option?

I wouldn't complain any if we got Matt Barkley he is not my first choice and if only he wasn't an USC guy. I'd be happy that we took Matt Barkley and be excited too draft a guy who has the accuracy skills that Matt Barkley has.

Am concerned about Matt Barkley shoulder injury.

[Ming the Merciless]

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Holy shit i am so down

[Hammock Parties]

5 offensive coordinator in 5 years!

[Setsuna]

Is Cassel better?

Cassel is slightly worse. NOW STFU you piece of refuse!

[Rasputin]

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

Oooh I hope it's the Jetssssss

[Messier]

Cassel is slightly worse. NOW STFU you piece of refuse!

Go **** yourself. Find a team you like, and root for them asswipe.

[Thig Lyfe]

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

YES PLZ

[Dixie Land]

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

Just tell them the truth that he sucks....the truth always hurts..!!

[Walrus]

We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

:thumb:

Go Chiefs

[Thig Lyfe]

:thumb:

Go Chiefs

Fuck you.

[Walrus]

**** you.

I'm happy. :)

[Hammock Parties]

Alex 3:16

Alex Smith is 3-16 as a starter when asked to throw 35+ times. Andy Reid's Eagles threw the ball 35.7 times per game over the past 4 years.

Holy shit.

We went from Cassel 3:16 to Alex 3:16

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

[Ming the Merciless]

Alex 3:16

Alex Smith is 3-16 as a starter when asked to throw 35+ times. Andy Reid's Eagles threw the ball 35.7 times per game over the past 4 years.


holy shit, not good

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Alex Smith has won 1 playoff game in 8 season and is awesome, YAY!!!1111111

[Rock Action]

Alex Smith has won 1 playoff game in 8 season and is awesome, YAY!!!1111111

Yep...you guys are shittin' in tall cotton now....

[Hammock Parties]

:facepalm:

Weakness

Production has never matched efficiency either in total yards or in total touchdowns.

His desire to be “perfect” and to be mistake free, leads to excess caution, resulting in missed passing opportunities and excessive sacks. He is so committed to ball security, he won't throw into traffic even when he could throw receivers open. This condition is magnified on 3rd and long. He is just dedicated to not throwing the interception on 3rd and long.

Conservative, cautious player bordering on paranoid to make mistakes, which limits his upside. No risk = no reward.

He lacks killer instinct. He doesn't display that ruthless drive to attack and destroy. He plays not to lose rather than playing to win.

He is not strong armed. I still think this goes back to his shoulder injury in 2007 when he missed about 2 years, not playing again until mid-season 2009.

Not good going through progressions. He tends to check down if his 1st read is not open.

Lacks field vision, often misses seeing the open receiver unless it is his 1st read. Still won’t throw it unless the receiver is open.

Can’t throw into a window. Worse still, he won’t throw into a window. Often, the mere close proximity of a DB on a WR causes Alex to throw to a closer target with more separation or to check down.

[mcaj22]

yea, hes better than Cassel in the sense that he has a high enough football IQ to know what he sucks at and is self aware of his physical limitations with his noodle arm, and thus refuses to try and make tight throws that separate the men from the boys at the position. he's gun shy from all his failures in the NFL

but that also enables him to be really good at being an efficient game manager and hes kind of accepted that role as the "best current game manager in the NFL" and we just have to hope we catch some "Trent Dilfer once in every 15-20 years lightning in a bottle crap QB to the Super Bowl with really really good positional play" type effect here

[AussieChiefsFan]

Alex 3:16

Alex Smith is 3-16 as a starter when asked to throw 35+ times. Andy Reid's Eagles threw the ball 35.7 times per game over the past 4 years.


Well this should end well....

[Thig Lyfe]

yea, hes better than Cassel in the sense that he has a high enough football IQ to know what he sucks at and is self aware of his physical limitations with his noodle arm, and thus refuses to try and make tight throws that separate the men from the boys at the position. he's gun shy from all his failures in the NFL



So at least he won't throw 4 picks and say he graded out perfectly, right?

[Hammock Parties]

juuuuust gonna leave these here

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[The Franchise]

Sweet....another QB who will make our o-line look way worse than it is because he'll repeatedly take sacks instead of getting rid of the ball.

[Hammock Parties]

Holy shit.

The 2008 49ers averaged 20.1 PPG with Shaun Hill.

With Alex Smith in 2007: 11.7

With Alex Smith in 2009: 19.8 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2010: 19.5 PPG

[Rasputin]

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[Thig Lyfe]

juuuuust gonna leave these here

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[Tribal Warfare]

juuuuust gonna leave these here

http://i.imgur.com/cz83q4i.gif


for christ sake this asshole uses pencils in his eyebrows. Now we have to really wonder what sexual favors he offered to get this job.

[Hammock Parties]

WOOHOO!


Alex Smith completed 70% of his passes and had a 8.1ypa. He also threw a touchdown pass every 16.8 throws and an interception every 43.6 passes.

Andy Reids quarterbacks threw the ball 616 times.

Here's what the numbers break down to...

432/616
4928 yards
37td passes
14 interceptions

Fire up those BBQs, Chiefs fans. We going to big games with a QB like that.

[Pablo]

CHAMPIOINSHIP

CAN U SMELL THAT SMOKE????? PARKING LOT IS JAMMING!!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

PFF says otherwise :evil:

[nychief]

All I smell is Go Chief's AstroGlide and self loathing.

[Pablo]

All I smell is Go Chief's AstroGlide and self loathing.He only hates himself because he's dumb enough to be a Chiefs fan.

[Hammock Parties]

He only hates himself because he's dumb enough to be a Chiefs fan.

Basically.

[Masterchief]

:popcorn:

[BossChief]

WOOHOO!

Way to cut out the rest.

[Hammock Parties]

that's muh qb

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[BryanBusby]

I'll just leave this here.

http://www.thedrawplay.com/?p=554

[lcarus]

All I smell is Go Chief's AstroGlide and self loathing.

AstroGlide and the material in FleshLights mix together to form an acid. It's a conspiracy to burn the penises off of men who deserve it. Namely the men who fornicate with a rubber cunt in a flashlight shaped container.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Holy shit.

The 2008 49ers averaged 20.1 PPG with Shaun Hill.

With Alex Smith in 2007: 11.7

With Alex Smith in 2009: 19.8 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2010: 19.5 PPGPlease stop, this is incredibly depressing.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll just leave this here.

http://www.thedrawplay.com/?p=554

LMAO

http://www.thedrawplay.com/comics/2013-03-07-MrSmith.png

[ratchet]

You guys are seriously underestimating Alex. He can be a great quarterback. Is he one right now? no but he was and is an ascending player before he got hurt. He only recently got everything going in terms of being healthy and having a competent coach/players around him. In those two years his improvement accelerated and we have yet to see his ceiling. It's almost as if his rookie year started in 2011. so give him a chance. I could see him throwing 30 tds 10 int and 4000 yards this season.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Priest had nachos, Sanchez the hotdog. He can't go with Guy's Nuts because of Shaun Smith. He needs to get an endorsement deal for a stadium snack food from the bench/hot tub.

[rabblerouser]

Holy shit.

The 2008 49ers averaged 20.1 PPG with Shaun Hill.

With Alex Smith in 2007: 11.7

With Alex Smith in 2009: 19.8 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2010: 19.5 PPG

Yeah, he had great OCs like JIMMY RAYE and Mike Johnson...

One year, he was injured and his HC Mike Nolan questioned his toughness in re: to playing through the injury. Smith went back in the game, blew out his shoulder and went to IR. He's had total dogshit coaching his entire career except for one year with Norv his 2nd season (which got Norv FAT paid in SD, on account of how good Alex played) and then those 2 seasons with Harbaugh.

Singletary and Nolan were both dogshit coaches who had dogshit regimes and dogshit coaching staffs.

Any time Alex Smith has had good, consistent coaching, he's been a real good QB.

[King_Chief_Fan]

GoChiefs posting this stuff is actually good news.

Seldom if ever does he get anything right and end up flip flopping all over the place

[Tribal Warfare]

that's muh qb

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/580655_534591059897143_136655225_n.jpg

He's just waiting for his next dick in his mouth

[Hammock Parties]

GoChiefs posting this stuff is actually good news.

Seldom if ever does he get anything right and end up flip flopping all over the place

You haven't been paying attention for 3 years then.

Me = right about everything.

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, he had great OCs like JIMMY RAYE and Mike Johnson...

One year, he was injured and his HC Mike Nolan questioned his toughness in re: to playing through the injury. Smith went back in the game, blew out his shoulder and went to IR. He's had total dogshit coaching his entire career except for one year with Norv his 2nd season (which got Norv FAT paid in SD, on account of how good Alex played) and then those 2 seasons with Harbaugh.

Singletary and Nolan were both dogshit coaches who had dogshit regimes and dogshit coaching staffs.

Any time Alex Smith has had good, consistent coaching, he's been a real good QB.

And when he doesn't get consistent coaching, he's outplayed by Shaun Hill! LMAO

[Mav]

And when he doesn't get consistent coaching, he's outplayed by Shaun Hill! LMAO

I told you this before and you ignored it. When alex got healthy, he took over for shaun hill who wasnt hurt, just playing like dog shit. It was one of the very few games i got to watch when i was deployed. Went to sleep when the 49ers were down 21-0 behind shaun hill at half time against the texans, woke up for my shift found out alex smith had come in at half time and went crazy in the second half.

So, you keep talking about shaun hill, but the truth is, when Mike Singletary got out of the way, let jimmy raye use alex correctly, the second half of the 2009 season, was probably the most prolific of alex smiths career.

[Hammock Parties]

I told you this before and you ignored it. When alex got healthy, he took over for shaun hill who wasnt hurt, just playing like dog shit. It was one of the very few games i got to watch when i was deployed. Went to sleep when the 49ers were down 21-0 behind shaun hill at half time against the texans, woke up for my shift found out alex smith had come in at half time and went crazy in the second half.

So, you keep talking about shaun hill, but the truth is, when Mike Singletary got out of the way, let jimmy raye use alex correctly, the second half of the 2009 season, was probably the most prolific of alex smiths career.

The truth is, from 2007-2010, the 49ers best QB was Shaun Hill.

They never scored more points than they did with him at QB.

The 2008 49ers averaged 20.1 PPG with Shaun Hill.

With Alex Smith in 2007: 11.7

With Alex Smith in 2009: 19.8 PPG.

With Alex Smith in 2010: 19.5 PPG

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Lets all get behind Damon. Thiggy just needs time. Brodie will stay healthy this season. Matt is progressing. Palko just takes command of the huddle. Orton just needs to work on his redzone failures. Quinn was 1st round talent. I'm worn out Alex. just ****ing spent.

[Thig Lyfe]

You guys are seriously underestimating Alex. He can be a great quarterback. Is he one right now? no but he was and is an ascending player before he got hurt. He only recently got everything going in terms of being healthy and having a competent coach/players around him. In those two years his improvement accelerated and we have yet to see his ceiling. It's almost as if his rookie year started in 2011. so give him a chance. I could see him throwing 30 tds 10 int and 4000 yards this season.

Fuck you.

[Thig Lyfe]

Lets all get behind Damon. Thiggy just needs time. Brodie will stay healthy this season. Matt is progressing. Palko just takes command of the huddle. Orton just needs to work on his redzone failures. Quinn was 1st round talent. I'm worn out Alex. just ****ing spent.

If we had given Thiggy another chance, we'd be celebrating a Super Bowl victory right now.

[Bowser]

My most vivid memory of Alex SMith at Arrowhead is watching him get dismantled by the mighty 2007 Chiefs.

[Hammock Parties]

My most vivid memory of Alex SMith at Arrowhead is watching him get dismantled by the mighty 2007 Chiefs.

That was 2006.

He also got his ass kicked by the 2010 Chiefs and Matt Cassel.

[Mav]

That was 2006.

He also got his ass kicked by the 2010 Chiefs and Matt Cassel.

that 2010 beat down was just brutal. We couldnt get plays in, Alex Smith sucked, we couldnt block, we couldnt cover. We made tony moeaki look like Tony Gonzalez. That was horrid.

BUt back to the post above. Ill have to do the averages. But ill bet that the second half of the 09 season, alex smith and the 49ers averaged over 20 ppg. Not sure, but ill look it up. And im not saying shaun hill played badly, but inevitably, he lost his job, to alex smith.......

[New World Order]

that 2010 beat down was just brutal. We couldnt get plays in, Alex Smith sucked, we couldnt block, we couldnt cover. We made tony moeaki look like Tony Gonzalez. That was horrid.

BUt back to the post above. Ill have to do the averages. But ill bet that the second half of the 09 season, alex smith and the 49ers averaged over 20 ppg. Not sure, but ill look it up. And im not saying shaun hill played badly, but inevitably, he lost his job, to alex smith.......



You talk so highly of Alex Smith yet ignore my wager. Why?

[Hammock Parties]

But ill bet that the second half of the 09 season, alex smith and the 49ers averaged over 20 ppg.

LMAO

Games 9-16: 19.5 PPG

Shoulda stuck with Shaun Hill.

[Red Dawg]

This thread did, does and always will just just like all the whiny Alex haters.

[New World Order]

Based on the Shaun Hill stats we can assume the 49ers would of won the SB for the 11 season if he had started instead of Smith.


How does my ball sack taste Smith Fan?

[New World Order]

If we had given Thiggy another chance, we'd be celebrating a Super Bowl victory right now.



Shithead ruined that chance. Thiggy=Gannon

[Mav]

Based on the Shaun Hill stats we can assume the 49ers would of won the SB for the 11 season if he had started instead of Smith.


How does my ball sack taste Smith Fan?

lol, i dont even understand what you just stated. Shaun Hill is just like Alex Smith, with the exception of he isnt as mobil. Not sure what a difference that would make really....So sure, as for his sack, no idea Prince.

Game, Blouses!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

Of course the interesting thing is that the "good" Alex Smith over the last two years averaged 22.4 PPG (taking out the half he played in St. Louis, in which he only produed 7 points, but we'll let that slide) when you take out defensive and special teams scores.

So the 49ers improved their offense only slightly the last two years...basically Alex was good for another FG a game...but their defense improved greatly...which is why they won.

[Mav]

Of course the interesting thing is that the "good" Alex Smith over the last two years averaged 22.4 PPG (taking out the half he played in St. Louis, in which he only produed 7 points, but we'll let that slide) when you take out defensive and special teams scores.

So the 49ers improved their offense only slightly the last two years...basically Alex was good for another FG a game...but their defense improved greatly...which is why they won.

Wrong. Everything improved. First, and the most important thing that improved, was field position. We also with having a top ranked defense, had a top ranked special teams and led the league in field goal position, which also while helping the defense, hurt the offense. THey had a shorter field to go.

Yes, the offense was the achilles heel to the 49ers, like the defense was to the packers, saints, and pats. All of the TALENT on the 49ers, is on the defensive side of the ball.

Try it this way.

Justin Smith, Top 3 De, NaVarro Bowman, Top 3 ilb, patrick willis, top inside backer, aldon smith, top 5 rusher, both safeties made the pro bowl.

the only thing that compares to that on the offense side is they had a top 10 tight end, a top 10 running back, and a top 5 oline. THe majority of the talent, is ON THE DEFENSE. Especially in 2011.......

[New World Order]

lol, i dont even understand what you just stated. Shaun Hill is just like Alex Smith, with the exception of he isnt as mobil. Not sure what a difference that would make really....So sure, as for his sack, no idea Prince.

Game, Blouses!!!!



Smith fan it will take exactly 1 month to see that Alex Cassel plays like his inbred cousin Matt, and then I must ask you will you still be posting here?

[Hammock Parties]

Wrong. Everything improved.

Yup. Everything led to 3 more points a game.

Congrats on that improvement from Alex. I hope he can get us 22 points a game in KC.

[Mav]

Smith fan it will take exactly 1 month to see that Alex Cassel plays like his inbred cousin Matt, and then I must ask you will you still be posting here?

depends. Are we talking matt cassel of the last two years, or the matt cassel of 2010.

And in actuality, no it doesnt. I have been an alex smith fan since he was a junior at Utah, i was a fan of his through all the shit years, and i was there for his slightly above mediocre years. So, yeah ill be here either way.

Fuck yo couch!!!!!

[New World Order]

Yup. Everything led to 3 more points a game.

Congrats on that improvement from Alex. I hope he can get us 22 points a game in KC.



Kind of like going from Strickland Propane to Initech.

[Mav]

Yup. Everything led to 3 more points a game.

Congrats on that improvement from Alex. I hope he can get us 22 points a game in KC.

The ball control led to the defense going from 16th in the league in 2010 to being second. Yes, we kicked a crap ton of field goals. Far too many, but still. who cares if you only score 22 a game, when the league average is about that, when your defense gives up only 15?

Over under for 24.5 points per game from the chiefs this season in games alex smith starts?

[New World Order]

depends. Are we talking matt cassel of the last two years, or the matt cassel of 2010.

And in actuality, no it doesnt. I have been an alex smith fan since he was a junior at Utah, i was a fan of his through all the shit years, and i was there for his slightly above mediocre years. So, yeah ill be here either way.

**** yo couch!!!!!



It doesn't matter, because the Matt Cassel of 2010 couldn't beat good teams. He played AFC South and NFC West scrubs. When he played legit teams his rating crumbled and his record was shit.

A conservative qb does nothing for you in this age. Smith without an extremely stacked team around him will not be able to contend.

[Hammock Parties]

The ball control led to the defense going from 16th in the league in 2010 to being second.

LMAO

You just said the defense was loaded with talent.

Now you're crediting "Alex Smith's ball-control offense", which had a third-down conversion percentage in the bottom 20 percent of the NFL, for it's improvement?

[SAUTO]

Wrong. Everything improved. First, and the most important thing that improved, was field position. We also with having a top ranked defense, had a top ranked special teams and led the league in field goal position, which also while helping the defense, hurt the offense. THey had a shorter field to go.

Yes, the offense was the achilles heel to the 49ers, like the defense was to the packers, saints, and pats. All of the TALENT on the 49ers, is on the defensive side of the ball.

Try it this way.

Justin Smith, Top 3 De, NaVarro Bowman, Top 3 ilb, patrick willis, top inside backer, aldon smith, top 5 rusher, both safeties made the pro bowl.

the only thing that compares to that on the offense side is they had a top 10 tight end, a top 10 running back, and a top 5 oline. THe majority of the talent, is ON THE DEFENSE. Especially in 2011....... wait buddy. You worded it quite well to support your argument BUT if you actually count the players, you named six defensive players and SEVEN offensive players.
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[Mav]

It doesn't matter, because the Matt Cassel of 2010 couldn't beat good teams. He played AFC South and NFC West scrubs. When he played legit teams his rating crumbled and his record was shit.

A conservative qb does nothing for you in this age. Smith without an extremely stacked team around him will not be able to contend.

we are going to find out i suppose. Maybe you are right, he will suck. I doubt it. Hes learned to take whats there and not to force things. Now was some of that him knowing that kaep was the qbotf? Sure. So maybe with Andy, andy will tell him to take some risks. We will see. I agree with you. I think alex is better than some think, but not by much. I think he can do enough that every sunday you have a chance to win.

[New World Order]

we are going to find out i suppose. Maybe you are right, he will suck. I doubt it. Hes learned to take whats there and not to force things. Now was some of that him knowing that kaep was the qbotf? Sure. So maybe with Andy, andy will tell him to take some risks. We will see. I agree with you. I think alex is better than some think, but not by much. I think he can do enough that every sunday you have a chance to win.


I don't think he will be god awful, he will be conservative like Cassel was and make dump off throws which won't get us anywhere.

[ratchet]

alex is just a winner. He just makes good decisions whether it's the short or long pass. and he's CLUTCHHHH. look up alex smith epic final drive and don't tell me he's matt cassel

[Thig Lyfe]

This thread did, does and always will just just like all the whiny Alex haters.

Just just??? IDIOT!!!!!

[TribalElder]

lol

Alex Smith

[ThaVirus]

That was 2006.

He also got his ass kicked by the 2010 Chiefs and Matt Cassel.

Yeah, we destroyed them that game. Like, 30-3 final score or some shit.

To be fair, though, we made their entire team look like shit. Moeaki scored that amazing TD grab on Navarro Bowman and I remember one particular play where Thomas Jones outran Pat Willis.

[Mav]

Yeah, we destroyed them that game. Like, 30-3 final score or some shit.

To be fair, though, we made their entire team look like shit. Moeaki scored that amazing TD grab on Navarro Bowman and I remember one particular play where Thomas Jones outran Pat Willis.

it looked like, a varsity jv scrimmage. YOu guys kicked the living dog crap out of us.....

[Hammock Parties]

it looked like, a varsity jv scrimmage. YOu guys kicked the living dog crap out of us.....

It's easy to beat Alex Smith offenses when you shut down the run.

[BossChief]

I'd love the opportunity to ask Andy Reid a line of questions regarding the specifics of why he likes Alex Smith so much.

He said during the introductory press conference of AS that he has tried to trade for Alex Smith multiple times in the last few years. He sees something that he really thinks he can take advantage of.

[Thig Lyfe]

I'd love the opportunity to ask Andy Reid a line of questions regarding the specifics of why he likes Alex Smith so much.

He said during the introductory press conference of AS that he has tried to trade for Alex Smith multiple times in the last few years. He sees something that he really thinks he can take advantage of.

Andy Reid is a fucking fraud.

[rabblerouser]

depends. Are we talking matt cassel of the last two years, or the matt cassel of 2010.



they are one and the same.

Matt Cassel is god-awful.

Alex Smith played like shit when he had shit coaches, played good when he's had good coaches...so I think Reid will have him in a position to succeed x

That being said, I think Reid will take a QB with an early draft pick...

now go rape an AIDS fire.

[mclemons67]

As a 49er fan I'm very grateful that you took the weird Alex Smith Cult off of our blogs. I've been reading their excuses for his suckitude for 8 years now and it's a monumental relief to have them gone.

On the flip side, as a human being I am sorry you have to deal with these delusional twats. I've never understood the blind devotion to such a mediocre quarterback.

Tebow at least had the religious angle. That was sort of understandable. What does Alex have other than being from Utah? Maybe Utah explains it - they do grow some crazies there.

From what I've seen most of you guys recognize the Cassel/Alex resemblence... except for a bizarrely familiar group with a Feb/Mar 2013 join date. Keep in mind - this group was never a 49ers group and it will never be a Chiefs group. It was, is and always will be an Alex Smith group.

[BryanBusby]

As a 49er fan I'm very grateful that you took the weird Alex Smith Cult off of our blogs. I've been reading their excuses for his suckitude for 8 years now and it's a monumental relief to have them gone.

On the flip side, as a human being I am sorry you have to deal with these delusional twats. I've never understood the blind devotion to such a mediocre quarterback.

Tebow at least had the religious angle. That was sort of understandable. What does Alex have other than being from Utah? Maybe Utah explains it - they do grow some crazies there.

From what I've seen most of you guys recognize the Cassel/Alex resemblence... except for a bizarrely familiar group with a Feb/Mar 2013 join date. Keep in mind - this group was never a 49ers group and it will never be a Chiefs group. It was, is and always will be an Alex Smith group.
You think Harbaugh would take him back for 2 picks?

[mclemons67]

You think Harbaugh would take him back for 2 picks?

The 49ers could use a backup. I'll bet Baalke would be willing to give up a 4th rounder for Alex.

[Dave Lane]

I'd love the opportunity to ask Andy Reid a line of questions regarding the specifics of why he likes Alex Smith so much.

He said during the introductory press conference of AS that he has tried to trade for Alex Smith multiple times in the last few years. He sees something that he really thinks he can take advantage of.

And yet he didn't sign him for free when Alex was a free agent last year and Andy was desperate for a QB. Yeah that dog don't hunt.

[Hootie]

I just want Clay to tell me how Alex Smith sucks when PFF, his bible, ranked him as a top 10 QB in 2011.

So Geno would be classified as suck if he was never a top 5 NFL QB?

So we expect Geno to be a top 5 QB from the get go?

Got it.

[BossChief]

And yet he didn't sign him for free when Alex was a free agent last year and Andy was desperate for a QB. Yeah that dog don't hunt.

Andy wasn't desperate for a quarterback last year. He was only one year in a that 100 million dollar deal he signed Vick to.

[Hammock Parties]

So we expect Geno to be a top 5 QB from the get go?

Got it.

No.

[BossChief]

I just want Clay to tell me how Alex Smith sucks when PFF, his bible, ranked him as a top 10 QB in 2011.

So Geno would be classified as suck if he was never a top 5 NFL QB?

So we expect Geno to be a top 5 QB from the get go?

Got it.

Alex Smith was top 10 in 2012? Interesting, to say the least.

He also had the #7 overall QBR last year, too.

I'm a Chiefs fan, I have to find a way to believe this will work out.

[Hootie]

Alex Smith was top 10 in 2012? Interesting, to say the least.

He also had the #7 overall QBR last year, too.

I'm a Chiefs fan, I have to find a way to believe this will work out.

no, #8 in 2011

he was on pace to be #12 (I think) in 2012...right behind Matt Schaub

but let me just say the elite QB's score 40+

Alex Smith at #8 in 2011 was at like 17.5

Russell Wilson scored a 40 this year. Peyton Manning led the league with like a 55.

[Hammock Parties]

Being "on pace" means jack.

Sean Smith was "on pace" to be a stud last year before he reverted to form.

[Hootie]

it is basically like this:

60
50
45
45
40
25
20
18
18
15

Joe Flacco has been worse than Alex Smith in both 2011 and 2012 according to PFF.

I think Flacco was lower than Smith for 16 games in a cumulative rating system when Alex only played 8 games.

I'm going to keep beating my chest about Joe Flacco. That dude just isn't worth the money he was paid. If I were the Ravens, I would have shipped him out for a king's ransom, avoided that contract like the plague, and then taken that king's ransom and shipped half of it to KC to move up to take Geno #1.

[Hootie]

Being "on pace" means jack.

Sean Smith was "on pace" to be a stud last year before he reverted to form.

it would mean jack if he hadn't been on the same pace he held for an entire year in 2011

he maintained that pace for an entire 2011 and then for the first half of 2012...

common sense tells you he'd probably would have continued straight on that pace for the final 8 games had he not been injured

of course I don't think PFF takes into account he had the easiest job in football last year since his defense was so good and he was never really asked to win games...just not to make stupid throws.

so we know Alex Smith is good at managing games and not losing games...

can he win games though? That I don't think he can do.

But I didn't think Trent Green could either, so...that's why I think he can be like Trent Green.

[Dave Lane]

Alex Smith was top 10 in 2012? Interesting, to say the least.

He also had the #7 overall QBR last year, too.

I'm a Chiefs fan, I have to find a way to believe this will work out.

It won't.

Pie in the sky wishes never work out, it might seem like it at times, but no way.

Hell even Alex Smith Fan says he's a game manager and not very good. And that his top fan.

[Hootie]

we know one thing

if the Chiefs can field the top defense in the AFC Alex Smith can, at the very least, get us to the AFC Championship game.

That much is fact.

Now can the defense do that? I doubt it. They have the talent...but do they have that fearless leader? We need Eric Berry to be our enforcer. If Berry can take that step, we could have an elite defense. I think DJ is too quiet.

[Hammock Parties]

can he win games though? That I don't think he can do.

But I didn't think Trent Green could either, so...that's why I think he can be like Trent Green.

Trent Green could throw the ball down the field and showed that in St. Louis before KC.

There is no comparison. None. ZILCH.

[Hootie]

Trent Green could throw the ball down the field and showed that in St. Louis before KC.

There is no comparison. None. ZILCH.

there is certainly a comparison

but we can just find out when the games start in a few months

my track record on QB's >>>>> your track record

[Hootie]

and again, I didn't want Alex Smith. I wanted my own QB. Not a retread. But I'm not going to be unrealistic and call Alex Smith Matt Cassel because that is nonsense.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Would love to have Trent Green on this team right about now

[Hammock Parties]

How is there a comparison.

Green forced the ball too much if anything.

He's the exact opposite of Alex Smith.

[Dave Lane]

Would love to have Trent Green on this team right about now

Amen brother!

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[Thig Lyfe]

Would love to have Trent Green on this team right about now

He's too old now. Maybe as OC and/or GM???

[MotherfuckerJones]

He's too old now. Maybe as OC and/or GM???

The younger Trent ;)

[MotherfuckerJones]

I think Trent was so underrated. Now he did have a HOF Oline i get that. But he had shit to throw to outside of Gonzalez. Kennison was ok. I bet Charles would have 2500 yds this season if we had the '03 line

[HolyHat]

I sure hope the Alex Smith nutlickers don't vanish after he fails epically, much like the Matt Cassel fan club did.

[HolyHat]

$11 says that anyone who owned a Cassel jersey, will soon own an A. Smith jersey.

[Hootie]

I would have bought a Geno Smith jersey the day he was drafted.

I wouldn't waste my money on an Alex Smith. I'd rather have a Charles or just update my Reebok Berry to a Nike Berry.

[HolyHat]

I would have bought a Geno Smith jersey the day he was drafted.

I wouldn't waste my money on an Alex Smith. I'd rather have a Charles or just update my Reebok Berry to a Nike Berry.

What size do you wear? I have a Berry Nike XL that is too big. Has the STH logo on it as well.

[New World Order]

I would have bought a Geno Smith jersey the day he was drafted.

I wouldn't waste my money on an Alex Smith. I'd rather have a Charles or just update my Reebok Berry to a Nike Berry.


What about Tyson Jackson?

[Hootie]

What size do you wear? I have a Berry Nike XL that is too big. Has the STH logo on it as well.

I imagine I'd wear a L because I don't like jerseys that are too big

I don't like feeling like I'm wearing a dress

[HolyHat]

I imagine I'd wear a L because I don't like jerseys that are too big

I don't like feeling like I'm wearing a dress

That's not the word on the street.

[BossChief]

In 2004, Trent Green threw 60 passes over 21 yards in the air. 227 passes that traveled in the air 11 or more yards.

In Alex Smiths best year (2011) he only threw 36 passes over 21 yards in the air. 117 passes over 11 yards in the air.

Basically, Trent owns Alex Smith in every way.

[BossChief]

What size do you wear? I have a Berry Nike XL that is too big. Has the STH logo on it as well.

How much do you want for it?

Home or away colors? Pm me...

[DaneMcCloud]

In 2004, Trent Green threw 60 passes over 21 yards in the air. 227 passes that traveled in the air 11 or more yards.

In Alex Smiths best year (2011) he only threw 36 passes over 21 yards in the air. 117 passes over 11 yards in the air.

Basically, Trent owns Alex Smith in every way.

The Coryell offense has ALWAYS been about throwing the ball downfield, whether it was Dan Fouts or Kurt Warner or Trent Green, etc. and so on.

The WCO envisioned by Bill Walsh is about short and intermediate passing and getting the ball into the hands of the receivers, who in turn make the plays.

:shake:

[Hammock Parties]

Shocking new information.

It's a false argument that Alex Smith is a better short passer than Matt Cassel.


2010 Matt Cassel

64.3% 1-10 yards
52.2% 11-20 yards

Total accuracy, 1-20 yards: 60.06%

TD: 19
INT: 5
YPA: 7.65



2011 Alex Smith

63.2% 1-10 yards
54.3% 11-20 yards

Total accuracy, 1-20 yards: 61.027 %

TD: 13
INT: 4
YPA: 7.05


So Alex is 1 percent better, but that 1 percent is less productive in terms of yards and touchdowns.

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

bwa-hahahahahahahahahahalolz
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Go to Hell; the Smith vs Cassel thread must become a reality. I can see it now; GLORIOUS GIFS showing Alex doing the same fucking things Casshole used to do:
One read only,
Staring down receivers,
Missing wide-open targets,
Hitting the upright,
And the best of all:
TANDEM FETAL FTW!
Do it.
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[Hammock Parties]

Refresher!

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[ptlyon]

Was wondering where the hell this thread went...

[Mav]

Good call Clay. Took one game, and that's your sole opinion of Alex Smith. Well done. One bad game. Yup. Well, I guess you should make some gifs of Matt Ryan against the Falcons last year when he threw 5 picks. No great qbs ever have bad games.

[Hammock Parties]

Shut the fuck up, moron. You're going to be gone from this place for a year when Alex Smith fails, and I will relish your defeat. And his.

[Mav]

Shut the **** up, moron. You're going to be gone from this place for a year when Alex Smith fails, and I will relish your defeat. And his.

Oh, tell me something we didn't already know. Pffff, the one thing that has been clear from the moment I got here. You are not a fan. You are a troll, and nothing more but a bitter little bitch who spreads his diarrhea of the mouth all over the board begging for attention. Which, I am glad to give it to you. And this is why. Everytime you spread your bullshit, I come right behind you, and leave the truth. So you can drop your little turdlings all over the board, and when you tell bullshit lies, ill just tell the truth, and move along. Still waiting on that gif of the Alex Smith to Moss 55 yard completion. I know you wont post it you sack less wonder bitch. Because that would DEFEAT YOUR ENTIRE PREMISE ABOUT ALEX.

[Hammock Parties]

The fact that Alex Smith had the sunshine hit one of his dog's ass passes one day does not mean he has any ability to throw downfield.

Again, the only guy who completes fewer throws down the field is Christian Ponder.

[Mav]

The fact that Alex Smith had the sunshine hit one of his dog's ass passes one day does not mean he has any ability to throw downfield.

Again, the only guy who completes fewer throws down the field is Christian Ponder.

Go watch the video. Then talk to me. You wont. You are a coward....

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[Hammock Parties]

Highlights are irrelevant. Over the course of his career, Alex Smith cannot throw the ball down the field. It is fact.

You are an evil perverter of innocent little Chiefs fans. You give them false hope. And you will be destroyed.

[RunKC]

Highlights are irrelevant. Over the course of his career, Alex Smith cannot throw the ball down the field. It is fact.

You are an evil perverter of innocent little Chiefs fans. You give them false hope. And you will be destroyed.

You say highlights are irrelevant after you use highlights from his worst game to try to paint a picture?

Seriously?

[Mav]

Highlights are irrelevant. Over the course of his career, Alex Smith cannot throw the ball down the field. It is fact.

You are an evil perverter of innocent little Chiefs fans. You give them false hope. And you will be destroyed.

Almost every single throw that is made in that video, is from the past 3 seasons. They are no more relevant, or irrelevant, as your bullshit gifs taken from ONE game. ONE GAME. but, a compelation of throws that YOU CLEARLY SAID HE CANT MAKE, clearly is far less relevant than an entire video showing that he can indeed make all the throws. lol.....

[Sorter]

FWIW, Matt Cassel once completed iirc a 65 yard Td to Moss as well.

[Hammock Parties]

You say highlights are irrelevant after you use highlights from his worst game to try to paint a picture?

Seriously?

I have painted a picture using statistics accumulated over a LONG period of time from this turd QB.

The GIFs are merely examples of why he is limited, and why his statistics are so disappointing.

[Sorter]

You say highlights are irrelevant after you use highlights from his worst game to try to paint a picture?

Seriously?

While agree with the premise of your argument, I also think that it would be possible to find throws that were underwhelming in more games but it would require quite a bit of time to do so.

[Mav]

While agree with the premise of your argument, I also think that it would be possible to find throws that were underwhelming in more games but it would require quite a bit of time to do so.

Well, that is actually true. But, can we find a qb that doesn't make a horrible throw now and then?

I can recall Aaron Rodgers missing a wide open Greg Jennings in the playoff game loss to the Giants. Bad throws happen. Alex has thrown more than his fair share. But, to complete 70 percent of your passes, you have to complete quite a few as well.

[Hammock Parties]

I can recall Aaron Rodgers missing

WHAT?

The prosecution presents exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/DklISxD.jpg

Your client is GUILTY of defrauding the Kansas City Chiefs out of two second-round draft picks and giving false hope to a starving, ignorant fan base.

The sentence is lifetime incarceration in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. The same one we sent Bono to.

[Mav]

WHAT?

The prosecution presents exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/DklISxD.jpg

Your client is GUILTY of defrauding the Kansas City Chiefs out of two second-round draft picks and giving false hope to a starving, ignorant fan base.

The sentence is lifetime incarceration in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. The same one we sent Bono to.

when you learn how to read, and COMPREHEND, that I clearly said PLAYOFF game, and it was clearly in 2011, because the giants weren't IN the playoffs last year, then we can talk okay pumpkin? Clearly you are on overload today.

[Hammock Parties]

Doesn't matter. You insinuated that because Aaron Rodgers missed a deep pass, it was OK for Alex Smith to do so.

Faulty reasoning. Aaron Rodgers is an elite deep passer. Alex Smith is the EXACT opposite.

Once again, you have been proven completely and utterly wrong.

You will be destroyed.

[Sorter]

Well, that is actually true. But, can we find a qb that doesn't make a horrible throw now and then?

I can recall Aaron Rodgers missing a wide open Greg Jennings in the playoff game loss to the Giants. Bad throws happen. Alex has thrown more than his fair share. But, to complete 70 percent of your passes, you have to complete quite a few as well.

Most certainly. However, you probably won't find any of the top tier guys doing that with the same frequency. Of course, that requires you to compare Alex with the top tier(Brady, manning, brees, rogers) which is silly.

[Mav]

Doesn't matter. You insinuated that because Aaron Rodgers missed a deep pass, it was OK for Alex Smith to do so.

Faulty reasoning. Aaron Rodgers is an elite deep passer. Alex Smith is the EXACT opposite.

Once again, you have been proven completely and utterly wrong.

You will be destroyed.

I don't recall saying it was a DEEP pass, that's what made it all the more shocking. It was a relative easy pass for him, and he missed Jennings by 5 yards, by him self, in the end zone. It wasn't a point to illustrate that Aaron Rodgers is a bad qb, obviously hes one of the top 3 in the league. It was to illustrate that EVERY qb makes bad passes. I saw peyton manning throw 3 passes against Atlanta last season, and all three were picks.......

[Mav]

Most certainly. However, you probably won't find any of the top tier guys doing that with the same frequency. Of course, that requires you to compare Alex with the top tier(Brady, manning, brees, rogers) which is silly.

That is what makes them the top tier. Clearly which Alex Smith is not.

I understand what you mean. Completely.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

AS hate-gifs are my FAVORITE item for this upcoming season. Can't.......wait.

[Hammock Parties]

It's here! The first GIF of Alex Smith being shitty as Chiefs QB! Brandon Flowers breaks up a poor/late pass from Alex.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/smiff.gif

[Jakemall]

Well, that is actually true. But, can we find a qb that doesn't make a horrible throw now and then?

I can recall Aaron Rodgers missing a wide open Greg Jennings in the playoff game loss to the Giants. Bad throws happen. Alex has thrown more than his fair share. But, to complete 70 percent of your passes, you have to complete quite a few as well.

Isn't there a % of bad pass statistic? I bet Alex wouldn't look bad on it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What a wobble-rocket. Begun, this Suck War has.

[Mav]

Isn't there a % of bad pass statistic? I bet Alex wouldn't look bad on it.

he doesn't take chances, blah blah blah. you know how that crap will go.

They did a break down of passes that qbs threw, and alex was top5 in 2 of them, and didn't throw enough to rate in the one behind the line of scrimmage, yet, alex throws short every time....lol.

[Jakemall]

2011:

Here is how he stacks up against the top 31 passers from last season:

1. Drew Brees (61 bad passes/657 attempts) 9.3 percent
2. Tony Romo (68/522) 12.3 percent
3. Philip Rivers (74/582) 12.7 percent
4. Colt McCoy (61/463) 13.2 percent
5. Josh Freeman (74/551) 13.4 percent
6. Kyle Orton (34/252) 13.5 percent
7. Kevin Kolb (35/253) 13.8 percent
7. Eli Manning (81/589) 13.8 percent
9. Aaron Rodgers (70/502) 13.9 percent
10. Matt Ryan (80/566) 14.1 percent
11. Alex Smith (64/445) 14.4 percent
12. Matthew Stafford (97/663) 14.6 percent
12. Ben Roethlisberger (75/513) 14.6 percent
14. Matt Hasselbeck (76/518) 14.7 percent
14. Tarvaris Jackson (66/450) 14.7 percent
16. Andy Dalton (78/516) 15.1 percent
17. Mike Vick (65/423) 15.4 percent
18. Rex Grossman (72/458) 15.7 percent
19. Matt Moore (55/347) 15.9 percent
20. Matt Schaub (47/292) 16.1 percent
21. Tom Brady (107/611) 17.5 percent
21. Jay Cutler (55/314) 17.5 percent
22. Ryan Fitzpatrick (101/569) 17.8 percent
23. Mark Sanchez (97/543) 17.9 percent
23. Christian Ponder (52/291) 17.9 percent
25. Joe Flacco (100/542) 18.5 percent
26. Cam Newton (101/517) 19.5 percent
27. Sam Bradford (70/357) 19.6 percent
28. John Skelton (62/275) 22.5 percent
29. Blaine Gabbert (94/413) 22.8 percent
30. Tim Tebow (71/271) 26.2 percent
31. Carson Palmer (101/328) 30.8 percent

[TheUte]

It's here! The first GIF of Alex Smith being shitty as Chiefs QB! Brandon Flowers breaks up a poor/late pass from Alex.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/smiff.gif

Shows how much you actually know about football.

If a receiver gets his hands on the ball, it's on him if he doesn't catch.

[InChiefsHeaven]

It's here! The first GIF of Alex Smith being shitty as Chiefs QB! Brandon Flowers breaks up a poor/late pass from Alex.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/smiff.gif

Hmmm...that was kind of an ugly pass. The mechanics are very wind up-ish too...thought he got that fixed...

...but Brandon Flowers is awesome, so there is that as well...

[Mav]

What a wobble-rocket. Begun, this Suck War has.

You have never thrown a regulation nfl ball have you? Those things are hard to get a spiral on. Also, to Clay, that wasn't late, that was Baldwin, not shielding off a defender, and letting a much smaller defender over his back.

Oh, also, it was FUCKING OTAS YOU DOPE.

[GordonGekko]

2011:

Here is how he stacks up against the top 31 passers from last season:

1. Drew Brees (61 bad passes/657 attempts) 9.3 percent
2. Tony Romo (68/522) 12.3 percent
3. Philip Rivers (74/582) 12.7 percent
4. Colt McCoy (61/463) 13.2 percent
5. Josh Freeman (74/551) 13.4 percent
6. Kyle Orton (34/252) 13.5 percent
7. Kevin Kolb (35/253) 13.8 percent
7. Eli Manning (81/589) 13.8 percent
9. Aaron Rodgers (70/502) 13.9 percent
10. Matt Ryan (80/566) 14.1 percent
11. Alex Smith (64/445) 14.4 percent
12. Matthew Stafford (97/663) 14.6 percent
12. Ben Roethlisberger (75/513) 14.6 percent
14. Matt Hasselbeck (76/518) 14.7 percent
14. Tarvaris Jackson (66/450) 14.7 percent
16. Andy Dalton (78/516) 15.1 percent
17. Mike Vick (65/423) 15.4 percent
18. Rex Grossman (72/458) 15.7 percent
19. Matt Moore (55/347) 15.9 percent
20. Matt Schaub (47/292) 16.1 percent
21. Tom Brady (107/611) 17.5 percent
21. Jay Cutler (55/314) 17.5 percent
22. Ryan Fitzpatrick (101/569) 17.8 percent
23. Mark Sanchez (97/543) 17.9 percent
23. Christian Ponder (52/291) 17.9 percent
25. Joe Flacco (100/542) 18.5 percent
26. Cam Newton (101/517) 19.5 percent
27. Sam Bradford (70/357) 19.6 percent
28. John Skelton (62/275) 22.5 percent
29. Blaine Gabbert (94/413) 22.8 percent
30. Tim Tebow (71/271) 26.2 percent
31. Carson Palmer (101/328) 30.8 percent

Any list where Kyle Orton, Kevin Kolb, and Tony Romo rank highly on is not a list that one can make any kind of assumption that a QB is going to be successful and is a winner.

Colt McCoy?

I can't take anything from this worthless list.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Shows how much you actually know about football.

If a receiver gets his hands on the ball, it's on him if he doesn't catch.

Ladies and Gentlemen; your prime, A-1 excuse for Alexsexuality this upcoming season.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You have never thrown a regulation nfl ball have you? Those things are hard to get a spiral on. Also, to Clay, that wasn't late, that was Baldwin, not shielding off a defender, and letting a much smaller defender over his back.

Oh, also, it was FUCKING OTAS YOU DOPE.

Yeah, GREAT throw for no pads and no pressure. I'm psyched!LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

didn't throw enough to rate in the one behind the line of scrimmage, yet, alex throws short every time....lol.

Alex Smith threw 135 passes under 10 yards last season. (73.8 percent of his attempts).

Matt Cassel threw 126 passes under 10 yards last season (64.9 percent of his attempts).

Don't try to deceive us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Maverick.

Alex Smith checks the ball down more than Matt Cassel. It is fact.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You have never thrown a regulation nfl ball have you? Those things are hard to get a spiral on.

I'm sorry; WHO is getting paid to throw the regulation football again? Did, Does, and Always Will. Just accept it.

[Mav]

Ladies and Gentlemen; your prime, A-1 excuse for Alexsexuality this upcoming season.

You know. That's a good point. I live in Packer country. Any time there is a drop, they blame the Wr's. No matter how tough the catch would of been. ON the 49ers board last year, every drop, was something Alex Smith did, even if the pass was placed well.

That is to be expected though.

[Jakemall]

he doesn't take chances, blah blah blah. you know how that crap will go.

They did a break down of passes that qbs threw, and alex was top5 in 2 of them, and didn't throw enough to rate in the one behind the line of scrimmage, yet, alex throws short every time....lol.

Well here's an interesting stat for 2012....

Adjusted air yards per attemt (adjusted for sack yards and ints) Alex ranks 11th. Cassell ranks 35th.

[GordonGekko]

You have never thrown a regulation nfl ball have you? Those things are hard to get a spiral on. Also, to Clay, that wasn't late, that was Baldwin, not shielding off a defender, and letting a much smaller defender over his back.

Oh, also, it was ****ING OTAS YOU DOPE.

Lol, you'd expect an NFL QB to be throwing lasers out there, especially in practice with no heat. Had Houston, who was pictured, been on his ass I might expect a little wobble. But that wobble puts a ball off target and reduces velocity and in a game that is a pick.

[DaneMcCloud]

Ladies and Gentlemen; your prime, A-1 excuse for Alexsexuality this upcoming season.

In what world do you live in? If a receiver gets his hands on the ball and doesn't catch it, that's on the receiver, not the QB.

Good God, you're fucking retarded.

[Hammock Parties]

Shows how much you actually know about football.

If a receiver gets his hands on the ball, it's on him if he doesn't catch.

Looks like a straight pass breakup by the DB to me.

Late pass, Alex. No good.

[Mav]

Alex Smith threw 135 passes under 10 yards last season. (73.8 percent of his attempts).

Matt Cassel threw 126 passes under 10 yards last season (64.9 percent of his attempts).

Don't try to deceive us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Maverick.

Alex Smith checks the ball down more than Matt Cassel. It is fact.

And what did Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers throw?

Also, when referring to the throws that you love to call check downs, how about all the throws that are behind the lines of scrimmage. Of course Alex is going to throw a lot of 0-9 yard routes, he also threw a lot of 10-19 yard routes, most throws in the NFL are from 1-19 yards. That is the majority of passes made. This is irrelevant......

[Jakemall]

Alex Smith threw 135 passes under 10 yards last season. (73.8 percent of his attempts).

Matt Cassel threw 126 passes under 10 yards last season (64.9 percent of his attempts).

Don't try to deceive us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Maverick.

Alex Smith checks the ball down more than Matt Cassel. It is fact.

I'd like to see the rest of the qbs broken down the same way. Thanks.


BTW, if Short passes = checking down, then Aaron Rogers is the double discount check down king.

[Hammock Parties]

And what did Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers throw?

Also, when referring to the throws that you love to call check downs, how about all the throws that are behind the lines of scrimmage. Of course Alex is going to throw a lot of 0-9 yard routes, he also threw a lot of 10-19 yard routes, most throws in the NFL are from 1-19 yards. That is the majority of passes made. This is irrelevant......

No, it's very relevant.

We had a shitty QB who threw too many short passes and now we have one who throws even MORE short passes.

There is no way to spin this into a good thing.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

In what world do you live in? If a receiver gets his hands on the ball and doesn't catch it, that's on the receiver, not the QB.

Good God, you're fucking retarded.

So, blame the receivers. Got it.LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

I'd like to see the rest of the qbs broken down the same way. Thanks.

espn.com

You're welcome.

[Mav]

Lol, you'd expect an NFL QB to be throwing lasers out there, especially in practice with no heat. Had Houston, who was pictured, been on his ass I might expect a little wobble. But that wobble puts a ball off target and reduces velocity and in a game that is a pick.

Whats ironic is, the majority of Peyton Mannings passes, have severe "wobble" on them. Who gives a shit. The only players I have ever really known to have absolute tight spirals, are qbs with Cannons, like Brett Favre, matt Stafford. Their balls hardly ever wobble.....

If its catchable, its catchable period........

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

How soon will the o-line that we just pissed the farm away on start racking up blame for Axl's wobble-suck? Minutes? Quarters? Games? What's O/U?

[Jakemall]

So, blame the receivers. Got it.LMAO

The drop pass stat consists of passes that are 100% on the wr. If there was any % that could be put on the QB, they aren't counted against the wr.

[Mav]

No, it's very relevant.

We had a shitty QB who threw too many short passes and now we have one who throws even MORE short passes.

There is no way to spin this into a good thing.

Who is he supposed to throw deep to Clay? He being Cassel.

I have read many times on here that Moeaki is always hurt, and Baldwin sucks.

Who was he supposed to be throwing deep to?

Alex Smith, didn't really have a deep threat in San Francisco last year outside of Vernon Davis. Who was he supposed to throw deep to? Crabtree? Old ass randy moss? WHO?

To throw deep, you have to have someone to throw deep to.

I don't see a Desean Jackson, Steve Smith, Calvin Johnson on the Chiefs.....I see a very good Receiver in Dwayne Bowe, who is going to be given plenty of YAC chances. But, I don't see these deep threats apparently you do.

[NinerDoug]

Alex Smith threw 135 passes under 10 yards last season. (73.8 percent of his attempts).

Matt Cassel threw 126 passes under 10 yards last season (64.9 percent of his attempts).

Don't try to deceive us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Maverick.

Alex Smith checks the ball down more than Matt Cassel. It is fact.

Alex Smith:

2012 San Francisco 49ers 10 218 153 70.2 21.8 1,737 8.0 173.7 13 6.0 5 2.3 55 22 4 24 137 104.1

Matt Cassel:

2012 Kansas City Chiefs 9 277 161 58.1 30.8 1,796 6.5 199.6 6 2.2 12 4.3 46 24 1 19 101 66.7

[Hammock Parties]

We all know Alex Smith's yards per attempt was a deceitful indicator of his ability, so don't go quoting that shit, please.

Dude was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion, because he doesn't throw the ball down the field.

That is the truth, please adhere to it.

[TheUte]

So, blame the receivers. Got it.LMAO

NO it's called football.

Have you ever actually played.

That's HS ball bud.

[Mav]

We all know Alex Smith's yards per attempt was a deceitful indicator of his ability, so don't go quoting that shit, please.

Dude was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion, because he doesn't throw the ball down the field.

That is the truth, please adhere to it.

Again. Who, was he supposed to be throwing deep to....Just please tell me.
'
I really wanna know......

[Hammock Parties]

Again. Who, was he supposed to be throwing deep to....Just please tell me.
'
I really wanna know......

The same guys that Kaepernick was throwing to when he was #2 in the league in yards per completion.

Game, set, match.

[Jakemall]

espn.com

You're welcome.

Oh, I know how to do it, I just don't think it bodes well for your argument.

Aaron Rogers = 73.6% of passes are less than 10 yards.

Wait... Alex Smith now = Aaron Rogers according to Clay!!!


:banghead:

[DaneMcCloud]

So, blame the receivers. Got it.LMAO

Hey Dipshit, please name the coach that told you it was "Okay" to drop a pass that you had your hands on, either in practice or in a game.

You're fucking stupid beyond words.

[Mav]

You know what is funny about Clay. Tom Brady, is elite. He throws 100 passes a year to Wes Welker with all of them being short, no one complains, well because that is Wes Welkers skill set. He is a possession after the catch receiver. Alex Smith does the same thing to Crabtree, because that really is where crabs is best, after the catch, and he sucks lol.

Although, alex smith has never had a problem finding Vernon Davis, ANYWHERE on the field......

[Hammock Parties]

Oh, I know how to do it, I just don't think it bodes well for your argument.

Aaron Rogers = 73.6% of passes are less than 10 yards.


You are lying, or bad at math. One of those.

Aaron Rodgers threw 68.4 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

He also threw 39 TD passes. When Alex Smith does that...call me.

[Mav]

The same guys that Kaepernick was throwing to when he was #2 in the league in yards per completion.

Game, set, match.

But their yards per attempt, were identical.....

??? and as I have stated. Kaep, huge arm, but he has the exact opposite problem of alex smith. he cant throw short to save his life. Hes terrible at it.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Oh, I know how to do it, I just don't think it bodes well for your argument.

Aaron Rogers = 73.6% of passes are less than 10 yards.

Wait... Alex Smith now = Aaron Rogers according to Clay!!!


:banghead:

Clay was in love with Geno Smith guy checks down more then Alex Smith. He runs away from that stat.

[Mav]

You are lying, or bad at math. One of those.

Aaron Rodgers threw 68.4 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

He also threw 39 TD passes. When Alex Smith does that...call me.

uh, the 49ers had the number one rushing attack in football. he packers haven't had a 100 yard rusher in two years.....

How else are the Packers going to score?

Kaep threw 10 tds, in the same exact amount of passes as alex smith.

Alex threw 13......same amount of attempts......218 apiece.

[DaneMcCloud]

You are lying, or bad at math. One of those.

Aaron Rodgers threw 68.4 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

He also threw 39 TD passes. When Alex Smith does that...call me.

And call me when Alex Smith has James Jones, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and Jermichael Finley as his targets.

They're mutually exclusive, you fucking mouth breather.

[DaneMcCloud]

Clay was in love with Geno Smith guy checks down more then Alex Smith. He runs away from that stat.

That's because he didn't love him for his football ability.

He loved him for his sex appeal.

[Sandy Vagina]

Hahaha, same old shit. You guys are just feeding the lonely and miserable attention whores known as AS Hater and Sweet Pussy Hate.

Just remember... don't let the negative crybaby shit detract from your season. Chances are good that the Chiefs will win 8 or more games. While that may not seem a victory overall? It's a good start from which to build on. Feels A LOT better being a competitive, decent NFL team fan versus being the bottom-feeding laughingstock team fan. It's a long 4 months of suffering when you are the latter.

There will always be those who seek attention by hating on something or another. Some fans just need to splash around in their own misery. No big deal. Let em bleed from their vag and anus. Just don't let the negativity take away from the fun.

GO CHIEFS !!!! :rockon:

[NinerDoug]

We all know Alex Smith's yards per attempt was a deceitful indicator of his ability, so don't go quoting that shit, please.

Dude was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion, because he doesn't throw the ball down the field.

That is the truth, please adhere to it.

Aaron Rodgers:

2012 Green Bay Packers 16 552 371 67.2 34.5 4,295 7.8 268.4 39 7.1 8 1.4 73 54 9 51 293 108.0

Yards per completion: 11.57

Alex Smith:

Yards per completion: 11.35

Looks like Rodgers has about double the number of 40+ yards passes. Of course, he's chucking it twice as often as well.

[DJ's left nut]

WHAT?

The prosecution presents exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/DklISxD.jpg

Your client is GUILTY of defrauding the Kansas City Chiefs out of two second-round draft picks and giving false hope to a starving, ignorant fan base.

The sentence is lifetime incarceration in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. The same one we sent Bono to.

For the record, this is why nobody can ever really trust anything Clay says.

Alex Smith, when he throws deep, actually slotted in directly behind Russel Wilson last year and directly ahead of Matt Ryan.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1386

He didn't throw many of them because he missed a great deal of the season and frankly, he just doesn't throw deep often.

But Clay continues to swear that his stats say he "CAN'T" throw downfield and that's simply not true. His stats say he hasn't, thrown downfield with much frequency but when he does, he's been very successful at it. In 2011 he did qualify for the list when he played a full season and was ranked 12 in deep passing %; ahead of Schaub, Rivers, Palmer and Brady (in that order):

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1390

Never forget this folks - Clay has nothing in the way of analysis of his own to offer - absolutely nothing. He's a troll. He's a damn good one, but still a troll. His 'insight' is restricted exclusive to his PFF account and frankly, he'll manipulate that data to whatever degree he can.

Notice he didn't upload this table:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1387

Because saying that Alex Smith was the best Play Action passer in football last year doesn't fit his narrative.

Or this table:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1389

Because how would it help him piss and moan about the impending suck that is Alex Smith if you point out that the dude was balls-on accurate in 2012?

Or even this one?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1388

Because hey - when even his holy grail of all things football, PFF, creates its own proprietary stat that also suggests that Alex Smith was really good at playing QB last year...well hey, how could that possibly be relevant?

Clay is a lying, manipulative troll with very little actual football knowledge of his own to offer.

It's important that everyone realizes that. He can make cool gifs. He can make interesting graphics. On a keyboard, he's a handy little shit. But when it comes to actually seeing this game played and having any earthly idea of what the fuck he's talking about, Goatse is roughly as useful as a labrador retriever.

[DaneMcCloud]

For the record, this is why nobody can ever really trust anything Clay says.

Exactly.

Because hey - when even his holy grail of all things football, PFF, creates its own proprietary stat that also suggests that Alex Smith was really good at playing QB last year...well hey, how could that possibly be relevant?

It's all part of the False Narrative he's been spewing since the Alex Smith trade was announced.

Clay is a lying, manipulative troll with very little actual football knowledge of his own to offer.

Quoted for truth.

It's important that everyone realizes that. He can make cool gifs. He can make interesting graphics. On a keyboard, he's a handy little shit. But when it comes to actually seeing this game played and having any earthly idea of what the fuck he's talking about, Goatse is roughly as useful as a labrador retriever.

I take umbrage with this statement because both of my Labs are smarter than GoChiefs when it comes to football. And I guarantee they're better at catching the football.

[mdchiefsfan]

BURN!

[Ace Gunner]

ROFL well stated DJ's

[Sandy Vagina]

For the record, this is why nobody can ever really trust anything Clay says.

Clay is a lying, manipulative troll with very little actual football knowledge of his own to offer.

It's important that everyone realizes that. He can make cool gifs. He can make interesting graphics. On a keyboard, he's a handy little shit. But when it comes to actually seeing this game played and having any earthly idea of what the **** he's talking about, Goatse is roughly as useful as a labrador retriever.

Brilliant post! You are the first person that I have ever used that silly REP thing on..good or bad.. mostly cuz I think it's..well.. silly. But you deserve it for sure here. :thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

And call me when Alex Smith has James Jones, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and Jermichael Finley as his targets.

They're mutually exclusive, you fucking mouth breather.

Alex Smith is completely incapable of ever throwing 30+ TDs in one season.

Anyone who thinks he can come close to what Rodgers has ever done is truly loony.

Aaron Rodgers can do whatever he wants, I don't care where he throws the ball because he gets the job done.

Alex Smith almost literally does not throw the ball down the field, so he gets ragged on for being such a shitty checkdown artist.

[Hammock Parties]

Clay is a lying, manipulative troll with very little actual football knowledge of his own to offer.

It's important that everyone realizes that. He can make cool gifs. He can make interesting graphics. On a keyboard, he's a handy little shit. But when it comes to actually seeing this game played and having any earthly idea of what the fuck he's talking about, Goatse is roughly as useful as a labrador retriever.

LMAO

We'll see who's right and who's wrong about Alex Smith when the bullets start flying.

I know who he is, and it's not going to be pretty.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm actually a little shocked, DJ.

You see the chart. The guy completed 17 passes for the entire year over 20 yards.

I don't care about percentages. We can't win in this league if Alex Smith keeps that up. Period. And you know it.

You're smarter than this.

[Hammock Parties]

But their yards per attempt, were identical......

Irrelevant, and you know it.

Yards per completion is a lot more important than yards per attempt.

[TheUte]

Alex Smith is completely incapable of ever throwing 30+ TDs in one season.

Anyone who thinks he can come close to what Rodgers has ever done is truly loony.

Aaron Rodgers can do whatever he wants, I don't care where he throws the ball because he gets the job done.

Alex Smith almost literally does not throw the ball down the field, so he gets ragged on for being such a shitty checkdown artist.

Funny, on the NFL network they were just talking about the misconception about the QB's who throw the ball down the field.

Mentioned both Brady and Manning.

Ummm, I think both are ok how bout you?

[Hammock Parties]

Funny, on the NFL network they were just talking about the misconception about the QB's who throw the ball down the field.

Mentioned both Brady and Manning.

Ummm, I think both are ok how bout you?

Brady was 5th in the NFL last year in passes attempted over 20 yards. Manning was 7th.

Please don't try to make stuff up.

Brady throws the ball down the field. So does Manning.

Alex Smith throws it down the field less than Matt Cassel.

Truly scary.

[Hammock Parties]

Because how would it help him piss and moan about the impending suck that is Alex Smith if you point out that the dude was balls-on accurate in 2012?


I know Alex has positives.

I actually pointed this statistic out as one of Alex's positives almost immediately when we traded for him.

But I believe the negatives outweigh the positives.

It doesn't mean shit if you're accurate on an 8-yard completion on third and 10.

[DJ's left nut]

I'm actually a little shocked, DJ.

You see the chart. The guy completed 17 passes for the entire year over 20 yards.

I don't care about percentages. We can't win in this league if Alex Smith keeps that up. Period. And you know it.

You're smarter than this.

A) I disagree that you can't win without flinging it downfield 80+ times.
B) I don't believe that will be the case with the 2013 version of Alex Smith.

He's a credible NFL quarterback. He isn't a star, he isn't Christian Ponder. I take umbrage with your high-handed insistence that you're just 'putting out the numbers for you rubes' when in fact that's certainly not the case.

You're absolutely putting forward numbers that fit your narrative and unquestionably manipulating them as you see fit.

There is nothing in Alex Smith's recent history to suggest that he can't be a good downfield passer. Or at least an competent one. There is plenty to suggest that he hasn't been asked to do it. And there is stat after stat that can be presented to show that, while downfield passing may even be a weakness of Smith's, there are a ton of things he does extremely well.

But you ignore them. Always. Because you desperately want this guy to fail so you can claim victory.

Alex Smith is in that Matt Schaub tier of decent quarterbacks. Yes, he did suck. No, he does not presently suck and yes, there is ample reason to believe he will not suck in the future.

[TheUte]

Brady was 5th in the NFL last year in passes attempted over 20 yards. Manning was 7th.

Please don't try to make stuff up.

Brady throws the ball down the field. So does Manning.

Alex Smith throws it down the field less than Matt Cassel.

Truly scary.

God you are slow. The conversation is that Brady and Manning throw as % more intermediate to short passes.

Remember the last couple of seasons the 2 TE's in NE?????

[Hammock Parties]

There is nothing in Alex Smith's recent history to suggest that he can't be a good downfield passer.

I disagree. He's scared to throw the ball down the field. He only does it when the guy is wide open, so of course his percentage is relatively high.

Matt Schaub is a real stretch for me. We're more likely to get someone like Jake Plummer.

[Hammock Parties]

God you are slow. The conversation is that Brady and Manning throw as % more intermediate to short passes.

Remember the last couple of seasons the 2 TE's in NE?????

Yes, but Brady and Manning still throw the ball down the field.

A lot.

Alex Smith doesn't.

End of discussion.

[TheUte]

Yes, but Brady and Manning still throw the ball down the field.

A lot.

Alex Smith doesn't.

End of discussion.

Define a lot.

[DJ's left nut]

Brady was 5th in the NFL last year in passes attempted over 20 yards. Manning was 7th.

Please don't try to make stuff up.

Brady throws the ball down the field. So does Manning.

Alex Smith throws it down the field less than Matt Cassel.

Truly scary.

Smith's actually going to be a very interesting case study for me.

Last year, when I was watching Joe Flacco mis-fire on every other pass, be it 8 yards or 40 yards downfield, I realized that guys with erratic accuracy like Flacco and Eli Manning should be firing the ball downfield. Afterall, if you're going to miss on your pass, you might as well have some risk/reward for your efforts and if its picked, its no worse than a punt.

But if you're a really accurate passer, especially in the short and intermediate zones, long passes aren't necessarily needed.

Alex Smith's yards per attempt over the last 2 years bear that out. His accuracy was so sharp that he was averaging more yards per attempt than virtually every QB in the league. He was, by any measure, a successful and productive NFL QB despite not pushing the ball downfield.

And as the efficiency numbers and yes, the highlight clips show, Smith does have that club in his bag. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's absolutely capable of making a precise, well-timed, on target deep throw. I don't know why you keep saying "can't" when the operative word really is only "hasn't". We've seen the skill-set and the numbers support it - Alex Smith can be an above average downfield passer, IMO.

But if you can sit there and throw it through a swinging tire over and over again at 12 yards, a short passing game is probably the better way to utilize those skills. Whereas if you're someone like Flacco who isn't going to be much better on short passes than long ones, then firing the thing downfield is the most efficient use of your talents.

[Mav]

Yes, but Brady and Manning still throw the ball down the field.

A lot.

Alex Smith doesn't.

End of discussion.

You know. We have been beating our heads against the wall with this for months. How about this. Why don't we stop saying what Alex Smith did or didn't do in San Francisco, and wait to see what he does in KANSAS CITY.

honestly. That's all that matters.

[ChiefsCountry]

Its like there is a Bat Signal when something is said about Alex Smith that all of the Alex Smith Dicksuckers just swarm to.

[DJ's left nut]

I disagree. He's scared to throw the ball down the field. He only does it when the guy is wide open, so of course his percentage is relatively high.

Matt Schaub is a real stretch for me. We're more likely to get someone like Jake Plummer.

But that's why I don't see how you're going to ignore the highlight reels.

You can find a lot of instances of him doing a really nice job of dropping the ball into closing windows and onto his receivers hands.

What he's not going to do, and what he shouldn't try to do, is rifle a ball into a tight window. His arm's not that strong; it'll get batted away. And his pass diagrams suggest that he's smart enough to know that. You're right in that he doesn't try those Stafford throws into small windows...because that would be quite stupid for Alex Smith.

But he absolutely will go over top of a WR and try to drop the ball into a hole in the coverage. And when he does, he's actually pretty good at it.

I won't try to guess raw numbers because I truly have no idea what Reid's going to do with this offense. But in Smith we're going to get an efficient passer that's smart with the ball and works with the strengths of his personnel. In other words, he's not going to be Jake Plummer; nothing in his career suggests that he'd be that kind of wild card.

You know who he really could be, though? Jeff Garcia. Garcia was athletic, smart with the ball and didn't force the issue but when he had an opening downfield, he took it. He disguised his average NFL arm strength through scrambling when needed and through making smart decisions with the ball. He was a very solid NFL QB that had his teams in legitimate SB contention on a fair occasion.

I think that's a very fair bar to set for Alex Smith.

[chiefzilla1501]

Smith's actually going to be a very interesting case study for me.

Last year, when I was watching Joe Flacco mis-fire on every other pass, be it 8 yards or 40 yards downfield, I realized that guys with erratic accuracy like Flacco and Eli Manning should be firing the ball downfield. Afterall, if you're going to miss on your pass, you might as well have some risk/reward for your efforts and if its picked, its no worse than a punt.

But if you're a really accurate passer, especially in the short and intermediate zones, long passes aren't necessarily needed.

Alex Smith's yards per attempt over the last 2 years bear that out. His accuracy was so sharp that he was averaging more yards per attempt than virtually every QB in the league. He was, by any measure, a successful and productive NFL QB despite not pushing the ball downfield.

And as the efficiency numbers and yes, the highlight clips show, Smith does have that club in his bag. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's absolutely capable of making a precise, well-timed, on target deep throw. I don't know why you keep saying "can't" when the operative word really is only "hasn't". We've seen the skill-set and the numbers support it - Alex Smith can be an above average downfield passer, IMO.

But if you can sit there and throw it through a swinging tire over and over again at 12 yards, a short passing game is probably the better way to utilize those skills. Whereas if you're someone like Flacco who isn't going to be much better on short passes than long ones, then firing the thing downfield is the most efficient use of your talents.

Good post. What you also have to look out for is if Alex smith is running a short passing game or a check off dump off game. That concerns me more than the deep ball. I don't know that he takes enough chances and that leads to him holding on to the ball or too often checking down. You don't want him to be Brett favre but he has to be more willing to take chances.

[Fat Elvis]

God you are slow. The conversation is that Brady and Manning throw as % more intermediate to short passes.

Remember the last couple of seasons the 2 TE's in NE?????

Nevermind the fact that Welker was #1 in the league for YAC or that Thomas was #4....

Ding Dong doesn't seem to realize that when you put the ball on the money in short and intermediate throws your WRs can turn those into 20+ yard completions. You know, Welker goes deep soooo often yet he had 13 20+ yard receptions last year and Thomas had 29.

[DJ's left nut]

Its like there is a Bat Signal when something is said about Alex Smith that all of the Alex Smith Dicksuckers just swarm to.

Solid insight.

By all means, offer any sort of substantive discourse whenever you'd like.

Mouthbreather.