Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You just said in this thread that it was the coaching that led us to 2-14. In that thread you were bashing people when they blamed coaching. Like you said, can't have it both ways.

You're missing the point.

In that thread, I was bashing people that were blaming the coaching because they were the SAME PEOPLE who went on and on and on like these Niner fans about how great the coaching was, how RAC was going to make this an elite defense, how Zorn was going to make Cassel a great QB, etc.

Feel free to find posts where I think RAC, Zorn or any of the Pioli cronies were great coaches, or spoke highly of them.

[ViperVisor]

Look at the playcalling in Q1-3 versus the 4th quarter.

You don't think the play-calling is affected by the unreliable performance up front?

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/images/Pressure092013-2.gif

Short passes and dumpoffs in place of runs.


Jamal Charles avg on his 1st 10 rushes of a game? 3.1

[duncan_idaho]

Alex has had two straight game winning/saving drives. 0 turnovers and 3 wins-with 2 on the road. Lead the team in rushing 1 game and #2 in rushing yards on our team. He has shown a big heart and great leadership.

All your stats and hate don't matter to me at all. So far you have been wrong and hopefully will be all year and the years to come when we resign him.

Wrong? About the defense, hell yes. I was definitely wrong.

I predicted the Chiefs to go 7-9 before the season started. The offense has basically been what I expected, if actually a little worse. Alex Smith has played to expectations.

The only thing I thought would happen that hasn't so far is that he'd be less efficient with the ball throwing more often. Some of that is masked by 2-3 dropped INTs. Some of it shows up in a lowered completion percentage.

What was not expected was the Chiefs defense morphing into the best unit in the NFL (so far). Part of that has to deal with improved QB and offensive play and no TOs. A bigger part (I'd argue) of it has to do with improvements by key guys (Poe, Berry, Houston).

[OnTheWarpath15]

Like I said. You brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight.

You weren't ready for this fight dude. Go back to playing GTAV

This conversation is way over your head.......

LMAO

I typically don't care about rep, but please, keep making your terrible arguments - it's helping add to my posrep.

[Jakemall]

They haven't posted this year yet, but last year he was dreadful.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sigttt1.png

Like to see this one for 2011 and 12.

But you're right..that does look pretty bad.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Wrong? About the defense, hell yes. I was definitely wrong.

I predicted the Chiefs to go 7-9 before the season started. The offense has basically been what I expected, if actually a little worse. Alex Smith has played to expectations.

The only thing I thought would happen that hasn't so far is that he'd be less efficient with the ball throwing more often. Some of that is masked by 2-3 dropped INTs. Some of it shows up in a lowered completion percentage.

What was not expected was the Chiefs defense morphing into the best unit in the NFL (so far). Part of that has to deal with improved QB and offensive play and no TOs. A bigger part (I'd argue) of it has to do with improvements by key guys (Poe, Berry, Houston).

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

[Bearcat]

Wrong? About the defense, hell yes. I was definitely wrong.

I predicted the Chiefs to go 7-9 before the season started. The offense has basically been what I expected, if actually a little worse. Alex Smith has played to expectations.

The only thing I thought would happen that hasn't so far is that he'd be less efficient with the ball throwing more often. Some of that is masked by 2-3 dropped INTs. Some of it shows up in a lowered completion percentage.

What was not expected was the Chiefs defense morphing into the best unit in the NFL (so far). Part of that has to deal with improved QB and offensive play and no TOs. A bigger part (I'd argue) of it has to do with improvements by key guys (Poe, Berry, Houston).


No need, we ran him off due to our absolute hatred of Alex Smith, the Chiefs, and life in general.

[BigCatDaddy]

Like I said. You brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight.

You weren't ready for this fight dude. Go back to playing GTAV

This conversation is way over your head.......

LMAO You had clown shoes put on you in this thread.

Go watch some porn, take a nap, and try again later.

[JENKINSWINS]

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

What if...

he has to score more than 24?
has to play playoff caliber team?
the defense wasn't as good as it is?
he's down 3 scores?
the oline sucks? (you guys think he has all day)

Now who's playing that game again?

[Marcellus]

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

Because every QB doesn't don't get away with dropped INT's?

I can only think of 1 pass that should have been intercepted and it was in the Dallas game. And the belief he doesnt turn the ball over is not based off 3 games this season. Its based on the last 31 starts of his career.

On the other note about 24 points per game, I know the defense is responsible for some of it and some of it is FG's. Its 24 points a game on average over a 31 game sample size.

Yes we have to this point a well above average defense and we should be only giving up 13 or so points a game avg or less by the end of the year.

I will take 24 points scored and 13 points given up on average every single day of the week and 2x on Sunday.

And yes, we do need more offensive output.

Nobody is claiming Alex Smith is a world beater. Nobody has called him elite that I am aware of though there may be one or 2 people.

My claim has been all along he is good enough to win and to win in the playoffs. And yes I know and acknowledge he needs a good defense which I have contended the entire team that we should have exactly that.

I also have contended all along thats why we traded for him, to win now.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You don't think the play-calling is affected by the unreliable performance up front?

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/images/Pressure092013-2.gif

Short passes and dumpoffs in place of runs.


Jamal Charles avg on his 1st 10 rushes of a game? 3.1

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

[Marcellus]

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

IMO the lack of attempt to run the ball with any real seriousness until the 4th quarter is as big an issue as anything with the offense.

I don't expect Reid to change though.

[The Bad Guy]

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

Jamaal Charles reputation and past performances will force the defense to react on playaction regardless.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Because every QB doesn't don't get away with dropped INT's?

I can only think of 1 pass that should have been intercepted and it was in the Dallas game. And the belief he doesnt turn the ball over is not based off 3 games this season. Its based on the last 31 starts of his career.

On the other note about 24 points per game, I know the defense is responsible for some of it and some of it is FG's. Its 24 points a game on average over a 31 game sample size.

Yes we have to this point a well above average defense and we should be only giving up 13 or so points a game avg or less by the end of the year.

I will take 24 points scored and 13 points given up on average every single day of the week and 2x on Sunday.

And yes, we do need more offensive output.

Nobody is claiming Alex Smith is a world beater. Nobody has called him elite that I am aware of though there may be one or 2 people.

My claim has been all along he is good enough to win and to win in the playoffs. And yes I know and acknowledge he needs a good defense which I have contended the entire team that we should have exactly that.

I also have contended all along thats why we traded for him, to win now.

Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Jamaal Charles reputation and past performances will force the defense to react on playaction regardless.

Yeah, except it's not, as evidenced by the last three games.

[OnTheWarpath15]

IMO the lack of attempt to run the ball with any real seriousness until the 4th quarter is as big an issue as anything with the offense.

I don't expect Reid to change though.

Agree with your first comment, sadly agree with your second.

[JENKINSWINS]

Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.

So if he goes out and starts chucking it all over the field in tight coverage, throws a couple of picks and loses in the playoffs, you're ok with that? Deviating from what was winning games in the regular season?

I get what you're saying but playoff games are won and lost in the same fashion as regular season games, IMO.

[Sandy Vagina]

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

You would still have to add onto other QB's interceptions for their near-misses... so Alex still wins on that. Nice try though. :rolleyes:

[OnTheWarpath15]

You would still have to add onto other QB's interceptions for their near-misses... so Alex still wins on that. Nice try though. :rolleyes:

Who mentioned other QB's?

You guys really struggle with arguing the point at hand.

[OnTheWarpath15]

So if he goes out and starts chucking it all over the field in tight coverage, throws a couple of picks and loses in the playoffs, you're ok with that? Deviating from what was winning games in the regular season?

I get what you're saying but playoff games are won and lost in the same fashion as regular season games, IMO.

Funny, we haven't played an elite team yet this year - but that's exactly what we'll face in the playoffs. You play "not to lose" in the playoffs against an elite QB, and you'll lose.

Maybe we'll get lucky and play the team with the 32nd ranked defense in the WC round.

[Sandy Vagina]

Who mentioned other QB's?

You guys really struggle with arguing the point at hand.

Point is, he would still look better than the others.

If Romo has 5 legit interceptions... and Smith has 0 legit interceptions.

If Romo throws 3 more near-miss INTs that actually turn into INTs... and Smith throws 3 near-miss INTs that tuen into INTs..

then what do you have?

Romo with 8 INTs... and Smith with 3 INTs...

3 > 8

[Sandy Vagina]

Funny, we haven't played an elite team yet this year - but that's exactly what we'll face in the playoffs. You play "not to lose" in the playoffs against an elite QB, and you'll lose.

Maybe we'll get lucky and play the team with the 32nd ranked defense in the WC round.

... and yet another that assumes our offense will be exactly as it is in the playoffs as it is now at week 4. :shake:

[OnTheWarpath15]

Point is, he would still look better than the others.

If Romo has 5 legit interceptions... and Smith has 0 legit interceptions.

If Romo throws 3 more near-miss INTs that actually turn into INTs... and Smith throws 3 near-miss INTs that tuen into INTs..

then what do you have?

Romo with 8 INTs... and Smith with 3 INTs...

3 > 8

The point is that no one else mentioned anyone other than AS, yet you continue to bring others into it in a poor effort to exonerate bad decisions.

The facts:

He was brought here to play mistake free football.

He's made some really bad mistakes.

Fortunately, none of these mistakes were capitalized on.

Opinion - opposing defenses aren't going to continue dropping a sure INT a week.

[OnTheWarpath15]

... and yet another that assumes our offense will be exactly as it is in the playoffs as it is now at week 4. :shake:

And yet you assume it will, with ZERO evidence to support your opinion.

If you want to look at the facts, the offense has actually gotten worse every week from a TD scoring perspective.

3 TD's Week 1.

2 TD's Week 2.

1 TD Week 3.

And we played the worst defense in the league in Week 3.

Feel free to provide some factual evidence as to WHY you think the offense will get better.

"I think it will" is not evidence. It's opinion.

[Titty Meat]

Funny, we haven't played an elite team yet this year - but that's exactly what we'll face in the playoffs. You play "not to lose" in the playoffs against an elite QB, and you'll lose.

Maybe we'll get lucky and play the team with the 32nd ranked defense in the WC round.

What teams do you consider elite? Seems like its 4 bad teams, everyone else, then Denver and Seattle. If we go 11-5 we'll be the 5th probably playing a team like Cincinnati. That's pretty evenly matched IMO.

[JENKINSWINS]

The point is that no one else mentioned anyone other than AS, yet you continue to bring others into it in a poor effort to exonerate bad decisions.

The facts:

He was brought here to play mistake free football.

He's made some really bad mistakes.

Fortunately, none of these mistakes were capitalized on.

Opinion - opposing defenses aren't going to continue dropping a sure INT a week.

What about Chad Hall's dropped near TD?

The point is, if you count other QBs near ints Alex's numbers would still be better and the other guys would be a lot worse.

[l4z4rd]

Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.

If you're gonna bring up dropped ints, you have to bring up dropped passes as well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

What teams do you consider elite? Seems like its 4 bad teams, everyone else, then Denver and Seattle. If we go 11-5 we'll be the 5th probably playing a team like Cincinnati. That's pretty evenly matched IMO.

We're only 3 games into the season. There's no telling who will be there and how they'll be playing in January.

But you're usually facing an elite/near-elite QB, defense, or both.

[ChiefsCountry]

What teams do you consider elite? Seems like its 4 bad teams, everyone else, then Denver and Seattle. If we go 11-5 we'll be the 5th probably playing a team like Cincinnati. That's pretty evenly matched IMO.

Cincinnati is our only shot at winning a playoff game since Dalton is basically Alex Smith. No way in hell do we beat Denver, New England, Baltimore, or Indianapolis.

[JENKINSWINS]

And yet you assume it will, with ZERO evidence to support your opinion.

If you want to look at the facts, the offense has actually gotten worse every week from a TD scoring perspective.

3 TD's Week 1.

2 TD's Week 2.

1 TD Week 3.

And we played the worst defense in the league in Week 3.

Feel free to provide some factual evidence as to WHY you think the offense will get better.

"I think it will" is not evidence. It's opinion.

Facts...

Short week on the road.
Run game still not being utilized enough.
Oline is still trying to gel.
Offense still hasn't used the full playbook and still learning it.
Undefeated

[OnTheWarpath15]

What about Chad Hall's dropped near TD that he dropped?

The point is, if you count other QBs near ints Alex's numbers would still be better and the other guys would be a lot worse.

I've yet to find a stats service that has listed that pass as a drop.

Again, you're moving the goalposts.

[OnTheWarpath15]

STATS, Inc. via the Washington Post:

1 target, 0 receptions, 0 drops.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=23966&team=12

[Sandy Vagina]

And yet you assume it will, with ZERO evidence to support your opinion.


"I think it will" is not evidence. It's opinion.

It's actually a logical conclusion. If a team is new, they will struggle until they familiarize themselves with the scheme and each other.

It is pathetic that this even needs to be elaborated on.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Facts...

Short week on the road.
Run game still not being utilized enough.
Oline is still trying to gel.
Offense still hasn't used the full playbook and still learning it.
Undefeated

You really should read the definitions of facts versus opinions.

You listed two facts, neither of which have anything to do with the argument at hand, and three opinions.

[chuy49erfan]

Ok, I've been reading this board since the trade was announced and let me just say, why does everybody assume Smith will implode in the playoffs or can't win in the playoffs? He is 1-1 in the playoffs and actually played well enough to take his team to the SB.

His postseason stats (2 games): 36/68, 495 yds, 52.9% comp, 5 TDs, 0 INTs, 101.0 QB rating, 7 rush 70 yds 1 rush TD, 1 turnovers (fumble lost against NO).

He averaged 248 pass yds per game on 34 attemps per game, at 52.9% comp with a 2.5 to 0 TD to INT ratio.

Why is this mediocre? And how much different is this from what we are seeing right now really? This was against elite teams and he actually had a better postseason performance against the Giants (who were an elite D) that season than Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers. He had a better rating, TD to INT ration than Brady did. Brady did pass for more yds and a better % but he still played pretty well.

Ryan - 24/41 58% comp, 199 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 71.1 Rating
Rodgers - 26/46 56.5% comp, 264 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 78.5 Rating (1 fumble lost)
Brady - 23/41 65.9% comp, 276 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 91.1 Rating
Smith - 12/26 52.9% comp, 196 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 97.6 Rating

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's actually a logical conclusion. If a team is new, they will struggle until they familiarize themselves with the scheme and each other.

It is pathetic that this even needs to be elaborated on.

What's pathetic is that you continue to avoid the discussion at hand and make excuses.

Funny how the defense managed to learn this new scheme quickly, yet the offense needs time to "gel."

Change in coaching/scheme hasn't seemed to slow down Philly, Chicago or San Diego. They are scoring 26, 32 and 26 PPG, respectively. Yep, a lot of struggling on offense going on there.

It's an excuse, and a poor one at that.

[Sandy Vagina]

What's pathetic is that you continue to avoid the discussion at hand and make excuses.

Funny how the defense managed to learn this new scheme quickly, yet the offense needs time to "gel."

Change in coaching/scheme hasn't seemed to slow down Philly, Chicago or San Diego. They are scoring 26, 32 and 26 PPG, respectively. Yep, a lot of struggling on offense going on there.

It's an excuse, and a poor one at that.

Oh bullshit. Offenses generally will take longer than defenses.. and your PPG stats is crap. There are far too many variables that can manipulate that shit.

Just stop whining all day and appreciate being 3-0.

Maybe the offense improves and can beat playoff teams... maybe not, but your constant vaginal bleeding is premature and based on negative nelly speculation.

[JENKINSWINS]

Oh bullshit. Offenses generally will take longer than defenses.. and your PPG stats is crap. There are far too many variables that can manipulate that shit.

Just stop whining all day and appreciate being 3-0.

Maybe the offense improves and can beat playoff teams... maybe not, but your constant vaginal bleeding is premature and based on negative nelly speculation.

ROFL

[Bearcat]

... and yet another that assumes our offense will be exactly as it is in the playoffs as it is now at week 4. :shake:

That can only be used to an extent though... sure, we expect the offense to improve, but I wouldn't expect a huge leap in productivity either, and that's probably fair.

Just for my own curiosity, I pulled up the Colts... 30th in offense in 2011, 10th last season. Point production each quarter of the season -- 22.75ppg, 17, 26.5, 23. Luck's yards -- 302, 299, 298, 194.5.

Not trying to cherry pick, there are tons of variables, there are probably examples showing the opposite, etc.... but, it's kind of what I'd expect. It's not that the Colts didn't improve, but their offense was what it was, like Alex Smith is who he is. I could be wrong, but I'd guess that offenses don't typically make huge improvements, mostly because there are so many variables -- who you play, injuries, play calling probably won't change dramatically, etc.

They could improve in certain areas, sure, but if they keep winning with this style of offense, it's just another reason they aren't going to make any big changes.

[Bearcat]

*and I know this thread is all about trying to prove stuff, but my last post has nothing to do with that.... it would actually be interesting to see stats on teams that have made big strides within a season.

[JENKINSWINS]

*and I know this thread is all about trying to prove stuff, but my last post has nothing to do with that.... it would actually be interesting to see stats on teams that have made big strides within a season.

2011 Giants?
2012 Ravens?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Oh bullshit. Offenses generally will take longer than defenses.. and your PPG stats is crap. There are far too many variables that can manipulate that shit.

Just stop whining all day and appreciate being 3-0.

Maybe the offense improves and can beat playoff teams... maybe not, but your constant vaginal bleeding is premature and based on negative nelly speculation.

Offenses take longer than defenses, except in Chicago, Philly, San Diego...

And then there's the last resort. "Appreciate being 3-0, quit whining"

The last stand for a Niners fan who has no more excuses in the deck.

No one is whining. No one is unappreciative of being 3-0.

Hell, I'm driving 4 hours each way to see them play this weekend.

Doesn't mean I'm unwilling to mention there are problems with the offense. And I'm certainly not going to sit here and make bullshit excuses for them.

[OnTheWarpath15]

That can only be used to an extent though... sure, we expect the offense to improve, but I wouldn't expect a huge leap in productivity either, and that's probably fair.

Just for my own curiosity, I pulled up the Colts... 30th in offense in 2011, 10th last season. Point production each quarter of the season -- 22.75ppg, 17, 26.5, 23. Luck's yards -- 302, 299, 298, 194.5.

Not trying to cherry pick, there are tons of variables, there are probably examples showing the opposite, etc.... but, it's kind of what I'd expect. It's not that the Colts didn't improve, but their offense was what it was, like Alex Smith is who he is. I could be wrong, but I'd guess that offenses don't typically make huge improvements, mostly because there are so many variables -- who you play, injuries, play calling probably won't change dramatically, etc.

They could improve in certain areas, sure, but if they keep winning with this style of offense, it's just another reason they aren't going to make any big changes.

Nope.

The offense will absolutely improve, while the defense continues to play at a historic level.

Why?

Because a bunch of San Francisco 49'ers fans said so.

[JENKINSWINS]

Nope.

The offense will absolutely improve, while the defense continues to play at a historic level.

Why?

Because a bunch of San Francisco 49'ers fans said so.

Good luck with being negative about winning. There were a bunch of 49er fans that were doing the same thing and they are having a total meltdown now that they're losing. They went from a Super Bowl contending team to a team that could be 1-3 after tomorrow. While the QB they exiled is 3-0 on a team that went 2-14 last year.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Good luck with being negative about winning. There were a bunch of 49er fans that were doing the same thing and they are having a total meltdown now that they're losing. They went from a Super Bowl contending team to a team that could be 1-3 after tomorrow. While the QB they exiled is 3-0 on a team that went 2-14 last year.

Who gives a shit about a bunch of dipshit fans of another team?

Again, for the eleventy-billionth time - it's OK to talk about the issues with the team and still be happy they are 3-0.

Unless you are one of a handful of Niner trolls, then you make every excuse in the book. It's like someone kicked your dog or something. 10 -15 guys come to another team's board to blow sunshine, ice cream and puppy dogs up the ass of opposing fans? For a guy that isn't even on their team anymore? I've never seen anything like it.

[Sandy Vagina]

They could improve in certain areas, sure, but if they keep winning with this style of offense, it's just another reason they aren't going to make any big changes.

All that really needs to improve is the 7th worst OL. We have a rookie RT, a C coming off an injury the year before who has now started only 7 games in his pro career, and both guards have looked shaky as well. They get their issues worked out through playing time, and there's no reason this offense won't be far more efficient. (so long as key players like Bowe, JC, and Smith stay reasonably healthy)

[JENKINSWINS]

Who gives a shit about a bunch of dipshit fans of another team?

Again, for the eleventy-billionth time - it's OK to talk about the issues with the team and still be happy they are 3-0.

Unless you are one of a handful of Niner trolls, then you make every excuse in the book. It's like someone kicked your dog or something. 10 -15 guys come to another team's board to blow sunshine, ice cream and puppy dogs up the ass of opposing fans? For a guy that isn't even on their team anymore? I've never seen anything like it.

Some of us 9er fans thought it was too soon to make the switch to CK7 so we followed the guy that we thought could get the job done. Does that make a little bit of sense to you? Especially with what we have witnessed so far?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Some of us 9er fans thought it was too soon to make the switch to CK7 so we followed the guy that we thought could get the job done. Does that make a little bit of sense to you? Especially with what we have witnessed so far?

I don't see any Matt Cassel fans flocking to Vikings boards, so no, I don't get why a fan of one team would waste time on someone else's board to pimp a player they don't even roster anymore.

Actually, I do get it.

You came here to troll, realized that there's damn near zero moderation here, and decided to continue unchecked.

I guess I should say thanks - for helping me realize that Patriots fans aren't nearly as bad as we made them out to be.

[Brock]

Some of us 9er fans thought it was too soon to make the switch to CK7 so we followed the guy that we thought could get the job done. Does that make a little bit of sense to you? Especially with what we have witnessed so far?

And you guys call us fairweather?

[NinerDoug]

Nope.

The offense will absolutely improve, while the defense continues to play at a historic level.

Why?

Because a bunch of San Francisco 49'ers fans said so.

Lol. You could be right, it might stay the same. I don't know. Just looking at Alex, he is passing more now than Harbaugh ever had him do, and his yards per game has been rising. The 277 is very high for him. If he keeps it up, IMO, you are already seeing improvement from his play last season in the here and now.

[OnTheWarpath15]

And you guys call us fairweather?

LMAO

Yeah, it was too soon to give the reins to the kid who treated the rest of the league as his bitch, getting them to the SB, and then damn near bringing them back from a 28-6 deficit in the 2nd half.

And now they've already given up on him 13 games into his career.

Corky from Life Goes On is embarrassed for this bunch.

[Jakemall]

And you guys call us fairweather?

How do you figure that liking a player so much that you follow him to another team is fairweathered?

[Jakemall]

LMAO

Yeah, it was too soon to give the reins to the kid who treated the rest of the league as his bitch, getting them to the SB, and then damn near bringing them back from a 28-6 deficit in the 2nd half.

And now they've already given up on him 13 games into his career.

Corky from Life Goes On is embarrassed for this bunch.

Wow...nice straw man....if he only had a brain.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Lol. You could be right, it might stay the same. I don't know. Just looking at Alex, he is passing more now than Harbaugh ever had him do, and his yards per game has been rising. The 277 is very high for him. If he keeps it up, IMO, you are already seeing improvement from his play last season in the here and now.

I have no earthly idea where you're getting that Alex Smith is 12th in yards.

He's 24th.

[Brock]

How do you figure that liking a player so much that you follow him to another team is fairweathered?

You need to read the post I responded to again. Absolutely throwing kaepernick under the bus to go follow another team is weak as shit and definitely fairweather. You guys are a bunch of pussies.

[OnTheWarpath15]

How do you figure that liking a player so much that you follow him to another team is fairweathered?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair%20weather%20fan

1. Fair Weather Fan

A fan of a sports team who only shows support when the team is doing well. During hard times they usually bandwagon other teams.

[Jakemall]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair%20weather%20fan

You do realize that I came here BEFORE either team had played a game this season. That means, I came from a superbowl team to the worst team in the nfl.

So...times couldn't have been much better as a 9er fan or any worse as a Chiefs fan.

That would make me the anti-bandwagoner.



That aside, you're still missing the point. I followed Alex here. That's being loyal even though he was sent to the worst team in the nfl. More, I'm still a fan of the 9ers...I haven't stopped supporting them. You're making a lot of false assumptions.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You do realize that I came here BEFORE either team had played a game this season. That means, I came from a superbowl team to the worst team in the nfl.

So...times couldn't have been much better as a 9er fan or any worse as a Chiefs fan.

That would make me the anti-bandwagoner.

Leaving your team for ANY reason is being a fairweather fan.

Then coming here and bitching about your old team?

Holy Christ.

[MeatRock]

If Anthony Fasano and a 3rd round rookie is the problem with this offense, we have bigger issues than AS or the OL.

OL "gelling" might be your worst excuse yet.

There's one new lineman.

You act as if we brought in 5 new guys in late August.

One new lineman? LMAO

Hudson didn't play last year.
Fisher is new.
Allen is fairly new.
Shwartz is new.

The only staples on this line are Asamoah and Albert.

[Brock]

Oh, the hard times we're enduring. /ninerpussies

[OnTheWarpath15]

Wow...nice straw man....if he only had a brain.

I'd love to know what's strawman about that.

One of your dipshit cousins said this:

Some of us 9er fans thought it was too soon to make the switch to CK7 so we followed the guy that we thought could get the job done.

My response was spot-on. You gave up on a kid who had done nothing but impress. Weak.

[Jakemall]

Leaving your team for ANY reason is being a fairweather fan.

Then coming here and bitching about your old team?

Holy Christ.

Find one post of me bitching about the 9ers here.

Leaving your team for any reason is being a fairweather fan? Wow...that's pretty extreme. So, you'll remain a Chief fans even if the team picks up and moves to Los Angeles?

[Sandy Vagina]

Leaving your team for ANY reason is being a fairweather fan.

Then coming here and bitching about your old team?

Holy Christ.

He isn't leaving his team, you stupid shit. He is adopting a 2nd team that he likes behind the 49ers. Same for me. You don't like or appreciate that? So ****ing what... piss off.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Find one post of me bitching about the 9ers here.

Leaving your team for any reason is being a fairweather fan? Wow...that's pretty extreme. So, you'll remain a Chief fans even if the team picks up and moves to Los Angeles?

Did the Niners move and I missed it?

What is it with you guys and all these wild hypotheticals?

[Brock]

Find one post of me bitching about the 9ers here.

Leaving your team for any reason is being a fairweather fan? Wow...that's pretty extreme. So, you'll remain a Chief fans even if the team picks up and moves to Los Angeles?

I won't just pick another team. That's gay as hell.

[Sandy Vagina]

Oh, the hard times we're enduring. /ninerpussies

You are the ones crying like pussies after being 3-0. And when we try to throw optimism your way, all we get is "oh, easy for you to say, we Chiefs have sucked forever, boo-****ing-hoo."

You da pussies, bitch.

[Jakemall]

I'd love to know what's strawman about that.

One of your dipshit cousins said this:



My response was spot-on. You gave up on a kid who had done nothing but impress. Weak.

I think you're not understanding him. Or I'm not.

He's talking about what happened last year as his reason for supporting Alex even though he's here. He's not talking about the struggles that Kaep is having right now.

I'm not going to explain strawman, I'm sure you already know what it means or have looked it up.

[OnTheWarpath15]

He isn't leaving his team, you stupid shit. He is adopting a 2nd team that he likes behind the 49ers. Same for me. You don't like or appreciate that? So ****ing what... piss off.

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."

[Jakemall]

Did the Niners move and I missed it?

What is it with you guys and all these wild hypotheticals?

You made a claim that you would "never do such and such" I gave you an example where you likely would.

My point is that you can't live in a world of absolutes..well you can, but I refuse to do so.

[Sandy Vagina]

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.


WTF should you care? This has been explained 100x over while you were Alex-hating on the other KC site. So what, now all the sudden, you are important enough to reiterate this? I think not. Talk about the topic at hand or GFY.

[Jakemall]

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."



9ers don't pay me to be loyal. It's not a freaking girlfriend or a wife. I can like however many teams as I want. There's a lot of people that don't even have a team. So what is different?

I also remember a time when players usually retired on the team they started with...they became iconic for that team. While the salary cap era has really destroyed that part of football, I still feel the same way about some players.


I find it strange that you would not understand this considering how many people became KC fans when Montana moved to the Chiefs. Sure Alex is not the GOAT, but it is the same concept.

[duncan_idaho]

Only fair weather pussies adopt "2nd" teams in a sport.

Old school, but that's what my dad ingrained in me.

[OnTheWarpath15]

WTF should you care? This has been explained 100x over while you were Alex-hating on the other KC site. So what, now all the sudden, you are important enough to reiterate this? I think not. Talk about the topic at hand or GFY.

The other KC site?

Care to elaborate, or are you just talking out of your ass again?

I don't post anywhere else.

And you might want to start showing a little bit of respect and pay your dues before you start mouthing off. You may think I'm not important around here, but I'm positive you're not.

Fucking noobs. I guess you take a shit on the floor of guest's houses in real life as well? Fuck off, troll.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Only fair weather pussies adopt "2nd" teams in a sport.

Old school, but that's what my dad ingrained in me.

This.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm out for a while.

Try not to adopt a third team while I'm gone, kiddos.

[Jakemall]

Only fair weather pussies adopt "2nd" teams in a sport.

Old school, but that's what my dad ingrained in me.

Must have drove him nuts when Montana came over then...


I lost my sense of absolute loyalty to a team when it moved to another location. I no longer have illusions about a team caring about me as a fan more than my checkbook. With that said, I've been a fan of the 9ers since the 80s and remained one through the decade of shit we just went through.

This is the first time I've really been into another team...and I don't feel even a little bit guilty about it.

[Sandy Vagina]

Only fair weather pussies adopt "2nd" teams in a sport.

Old school, but that's what my dad ingrained in me.

That's even worse. You were just some brain-washed lil kid that had no choice in the matter. Daddy says GO and you jump like the spineless chump. Well done.

[duncan_idaho]

Must have drove him nuts when Montana came over then...


I lost my sense of absolute loyalty to a team when it moved to another location. I no longer have illusions about a team caring about me as a fan more than my checkbook. With that said, I've been a fan of the 9ers since the 80s and remained one through the decade of shit we just went through.

This is the first time I've really been into another team...and I don't feel even a little bit guilty about it.

Don't know about you, but I wasn't perusing message boards in 1993. Don't think my dad was either.

Teams moving/players moving is a weak excuse.

[NinerDoug]

I have no earthly idea where you're getting that Alex Smith is 12th in yards.

He's 24th.

Hmmm. When I pulled it up before (nfl.com), it only went down to something like 16, and it had him no. 12. Weird.

[MeatRock]

Must have drove him nuts when Montana came over then...


I lost my sense of absolute loyalty to a team when it moved to another location. I no longer have illusions about a team caring about me as a fan more than my checkbook. With that said, I've been a fan of the 9ers since the 80s and remained one through the decade of shit we just went through.

This is the first time I've really been into another team...and I don't feel even a little bit guilty about it.

You shouldn't feel guilty. I'm no Alex Smith fan apologist, but if someone told me i couldn't like more than 1 team, I would tell them to go fuck themselves in the ass with a splintered fence post. That's just me though. :p I've been a Chiefs fan for 30 years. There's been a few teams I like, but only one team i love.

[NinerDoug]

My response was spot-on. You gave up on a kid who had done nothing but impress. Weak.

Absolutely. His current troubles are, IMO, completely on account of the injuries. Crabs is out, Manningham, and now VD. Who is he supposed to throw to?

With a healthy team, he is light years ahead of Alex in ability, anyone can see that. (And I like Alex, but that is a simple, undeniable truth.)

[Mav]

If Anthony Fasano and a 3rd round rookie is the problem with this offense, we have bigger issues than AS or the OL.

OL "gelling" might be your worst excuse yet.

There's one new lineman.

You act as if we brought in 5 new guys in late August.
Yeah, because its the SAME scheme that was ran last year, and o linemen don't need to learn how to work together. The more you post, the more I start to understand. You never played football a minute in your life. You think this shit is a video game. Well, on madden, hes a 78, so he should perform like a 78. I completely understand you now.
I'll mention it again.

Did you see the spotlight on Cutler on SNF?

They showed play after play where the ball was out of his hand in under TWO seconds.

Seeing as how we don't run more than 5-10 yard routes, it's shouldn't be that hard for AS to do the same, right?

Being risk adverse is slowing his decision making down, which causes him to panic, which often causes him to run into trouble, though he's ran out of plenty as well.
Jay Cutler, a guy with a howitzer for an arm, known for throwing the deep ball, will have options open short, where as Alex Smith, who poses no threat with the deep ball, and also has no THREAT of which to pose a deep ball with. Are you starting to understand the DIFFERENCE? Nahhhhh.
LMAO

I typically don't care about rep, but please, keep making your terrible arguments - it's helping add to my posrep.
Cool story bro. A bunch of Alex haters standing behind the most vocal dude in the room saying "GET HIM DAWG, GET HIM OOTP!" Im just so jealous. Yeah, but that still doesn't make you RIGHT.
LMAO You had clown shoes put on you in this thread.

Go watch some porn, take a nap, and try again later.
Yeah, I got a wife at home, um, so the porn thing is cool and all, but, uh, yeah, so and clown shoes? Gee, a known Alex Smith hater, thinking I got walked on because another Alex Smith hater has a narrow minded weak mans view. You keep thinking I got stepped on bro. There are no foot prints over here.
Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.
So, a quick smoke pass that hits a defensive player in the FACE is now what you are resorting to? Again, showing how little if at all you played actual football. That's the equivilant of a knock down at the line. No more, no less. McGraths ONE job on that play, was to KEEP BARWIN FROM GETTING IN THE AIR, and he failed on his assignment, and yet that's Alex Smiths fault.
That's even worse. You were just some brain-washed lil kid that had no choice in the matter. Daddy says GO and you jump like the spineless chump. Well done.

I love those types. The self righteous, "WELL MY DADDY TAUGHT ME."

Again, just because someone is taught something, doesn't mean its right.

Actually, its just about everything that is wrong in the world.

[Mav]

Shout out to KING with that post of OOTP back tracking his ass off.

Its cool now. Now all of a sudden everyone knew the Chiefs defense was going to be this dominant.

No. Actually, the only people who said that, THEN, were me and Mac.

You know the two niner turds that a lot of people cant stand, who are on the regular way more upbeat about the Chiefs, than Chiefs fans.

Its cool though. LMAO

[MeatRock]

Shout out to KING with that post of OOTP back tracking his ass off.

Its cool now. Now all of a sudden everyone knew the Chiefs defense was going to be this dominant.

No. Actually, the only people who said that, THEN, were me and Mac.

You know the two niner turds that a lot of people cant stand, who are on the regular way more upbeat about the Chiefs, than Chiefs fans.

Its cool though. LMAO

Not one fuck was given if you said any fucking thing. :rolleyes:

[ViperVisor]

I live in Indy.

I follow and would rather the Colts and Pacers succeed than fail.


But back on topic to the offense being clunky.

Last season on a Thursday...

ATL/NO had an Over/Under of 56
They scored a total 36
http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321129001

Matt Ryan with Julio, Roddy and Tony @ Home had 165 yards on 33 passes. Again, this was the Saints defense.
Falcons 1-11 on 3rd down.

Drew Brees threw 5 INTs, 0 TDs

And neither team had over 5 penalties and only 1 sack each
Both had RBs combine for 100+ on the ground.

Shiz happens.

And their are reasons. If Smith played better that would help.

But the obvious #1 issue is the O-Line. If they are better Alex Smith doesn't have more yards running in the 1st half than Charles. They are not in as many 3rd and long plays. And it is not so tough to pass block when the DL isn't selling out to get to the QB.

Andrew Luck is Alex Smithing it this year.
They are committed to a run game and it is working.

[Mav]

Not one **** was given if you said any ****ing thing. :rolleyes:

I really couldn't give less of a shit if any body gives anything about what I say. but, here is the rub, its a message board, without people saying things, it would be a pretty stupid place.

Now, sit there with your stupid look on your face and realize that indeed you do care, because you just read, and responded to it.

....................................................................................................


So, at the very least, ONE FUCK was given......Own it........Then rep me......

[JENKINSWINS]

And you guys call us fairweather?

Look, I followed because I thought it was the wrong move. They should've let Alex play out the 2012 season as the starter when he was healthy. I am a 49er fan first and I think in 2012 we could have won the Super Bowl with him and all of the guys that were there through the trying times including us fans, would have been rewarded with a Lambardi Trophy. I think they have been through a lot together with Alex and deserved to at least be given the chance.

I'm also here because Donnie Avery, someone I followed in college and wanted on the 49ers. Now I get to see Alex play with Avery and see if my analysis of him was correct. I'm not a fan of the Chiefs but I am a fan of winning football. My allegiance is and always will be with the 9ers but I am very interested in the Chiefs because of the reasons I mentioned.

Here some more reasons...

Can Alex win without Harbaugh?
Can Avery be a solid WR if given the opportunity and stays healthy?
Did they make the right choice with their 1st round pick?
How well can KC do with new coaching after going 2-14?
Is Andy Reid going to be Andy Reid and throw the ball more than run?

After the first 3 games it has certainly got a lot more interesting, especially if you look at for the reasons I follow this team.

[MeatRock]

I really couldn't give less of a shit if any body gives anything about what I say. but, here is the rub, its a message board, without people saying things, it would be a pretty stupid place.

Now, sit there with your stupid look on your face and realize that indeed you do care, because you just read, and responded to it.

....................................................................................................


So, at the very least, ONE **** was given......Own it........Then rep me......

The fact that you had to tell everyone that you knew the Chiefs defense would be dominant, shows that you're a look at me attention whore dipshit. Beat your chest some more, maybe one day Blackbob will envy you.

I'm also pretty sure no one gives a fuck what you and mac predicted. THATS the rub.

[GoChargers]

Whiner fans are the biggest fair-weather, frontrunning bandwagoners in the league by far, end of story. Switching teams over Alice fucking Smiff and whining about "only having 5 rings" is the epitome of pussified fanhood.

[Coach]

Anybody can say whatever they want on Smith, but the guy is a major upgrade over Gutless Cassel.

There was so many plays that the O-Line got beat repeatedly, and if it was Cassel back there, he would have fetal'ed it instead of running it off like what Alex have done.

Are there QB's that are better than Alex? Without a doubt. But there are also QB's that are much worse than Alex as well.

[Bearcat]

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."

LMAO

The whole '2nd team' thing has always seemed wrong for some reason... on one hand, it is just entertainment, and it makes no difference to me what people do with their time and money. I'm certainly not the smarter one for wasting so much time and money on the Chiefs over the past decade, when I clearly should have become a Patriots fan the moment they beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. OTOH, whenever someone says "they're my 2nd team," I can't help but laugh at them a little.

I respect what other teams do and like watching other teams, and I'll pull for certain teams in the postseason, but there's no "2nd team"... outside of the obvious conflict of interest when they play each other ("oh, but I'm always a Chiefs fan first" derp), it's just... weird. I'd do without having a team all together before adopting a new one.

[Brock]

Whiner fans are the biggest fair-weather, frontrunning bandwagoners in the league by far, end of story. Switching teams over Alice fucking Smiff and whining about "only having 5 rings" is the epitome of pussified fanhood.

Yep. Chapped c*nts.

[MeatRock]

Having a "2nd team" is fucking stupid, however, liking and pulling for another team outside of your favorite team is very common.

[l4z4rd]

lol at all these people getting their panties in a bunch because some people follow more than one team.

[Sandy Vagina]

Whiner fans are the biggest fair-weather, frontrunning bandwagoners in the league by far, end of story. Switching teams over Alice ****ing Smiff and whining about "only having 5 rings" is the epitome of pussified fanhood.

No one is switching teams, you ignorant loser dickhead, lolz... and not whining over 5 SB rings. How can you be so stupid and still type? ROFL

[Sandy Vagina]

LMAO

The whole '2nd team' thing has always seemed wrong for some reason... on one hand, it is just entertainment, and it makes no difference to me what people do with their time and money. I'm certainly not the smarter one for wasting so much time and money on the Chiefs over the past decade

I respect what other teams do and like watching other teams, and I'll pull for certain teams in the postseason, but there's no "2nd team"

Just semantics, really. But you go ahead and have your laugh. Just let me know when people can get back on some topic instead of yapping about a bunch of SF fans that they claim to not care about. :rolleyes:

[NinerDoug]

LMAO

The whole '2nd team' thing has always seemed wrong for some reason... on one hand, it is just entertainment, and it makes no difference to me what people do with their time and money. I'm certainly not the smarter one for wasting so much time and money on the Chiefs over the past decade, when I clearly should have become a Patriots fan the moment they beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. OTOH, whenever someone says "they're my 2nd team," I can't help but laugh at them a little.

I respect what other teams do and like watching other teams, and I'll pull for certain teams in the postseason, but there's no "2nd team"... outside of the obvious conflict of interest when they play each other ("oh, but I'm always a Chiefs fan first" derp), it's just... weird. I'd do without having a team all together before adopting a new one.

Without criticizing my co-Niner fans, I don't quite see that either (at least for myself.)

I am here because Alex was a long time Niners QB, who created a huge controversy, and left the Niners without really ever answering the question about his ceiling. Personally, I would like to see him succeed with his new team, and I can't help but root for the Chiefs right now. (It was the same way when Joe was here.)

But I am definitely not a Chiefs fan.

[bshmerlie]

lol at all these people getting their panties in a bunch because some people follow more than one team.

I live in LA and we have no team of our own. In the late 70s I started following Joe Montana at Notre Dame.when he went to the 49ers I started watching them. When Joe left the Niners I followed him to KC. The time he spent with KC I went to every single KC game including the playoffs to see him play. As I was a part of that home crowd i developed a loyalty to the Chiefs that will never go away. Because they gave Joe a chance to go out with a winning team. Over the years KC has retreaded a lot of ex 49ers. I appreciate that.
I'll admit I couldn't stand Alex for years. He was like a bad rash that wouldn't go away. But in 2011 when he started winning he became the underdog I liked to cheer for. His coming to KC was alright in my eyes because it was a fresh start for him. And its nice to see my KC family have that passion about their team again.

So yes . There are many of us out there that do support two teams for whatever reason.

[Kaepernick]

I agree, point being a 3 game sample obviously doesn't determine who or what a player is.

Oh, I think you are seeing the true Alex. He is efficient and careful and not very productive. He knows how to stay out of the way of a solid defense and let them win it for him but also knows how to assist them with such as ball security, short passing game, good football IQ.

[The Bad Guy]

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."

Help me understand why it matters at all if you have family, know someone or been to a place in order to root for the sports team.

[Kaepernick]

Why do I give a shit about 2 games?

Your defense sucks right now, and has for a while - and as much as you want to blame him, it's not because of your young QB.

You can see how these guys don't respond to logic. You posted a full season of games that Alex contributed little to the winning score, but they still aren't having any of it because they can't handle the truth.

At this point, you can keep banging your head against a brick wall until it hurts, or you can save yourself a lot of time and trouble knowing that Acolytes of the Church of Alex Smith are a faith based group that has no need for logic or reason.

Unless you just really enjoy spending days arguing with brain-dead numbskulls, then have at it and enjoy.

Bust their balls all you want but trying to persuade them is futile. It is the old saying, " "Never argue with a pig; it just frustrates you and annoys the pig."

[Kaepernick]

I'll give you this, you never run out of excuses.

Alexcuses. They know them all.

Snoopy is always going to win, no matter how many times he has to lose to do it. He just outlasts you with illogic until you just get tired out and go away, leaving him in "victory".

[Simply Red]

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."

I went from not having an NBA team to liking the Clippers, mostly because they're fun to watch and an extremely interesting mix of players. But I'd consider myself a Clipper's fan - is that a douche move? I've been to LA but have no family there.

[Bearcat]

Just semantics, really. But you go ahead and have your laugh. Just let me know when people can get back on some topic instead of yapping about a bunch of SF fans that they claim to not care about. :rolleyes:

No biggie, just rambling... like I said, it doesn't matter to me how people spend their time and money. People should watch whatever entertains them, since after all, it's just another product... but at the same time it just seems like if you have more than one team, you might as well not have any.

Is there a point in claiming a team besides loyalty?

[Kaepernick]

The Niners D has been giving up more PPG since Kaepernick started because his offense doesn't give the D much time to rest. With Kaepernick its either a quick 3 and out, an interception/fumble, or a deep bomb for a TD.

Yes, which is why Andrew Luck took the opening drive form his 20 in for a TD against a 49ers Defense that had rested a full week. Kaepernick must have worn them out in the locker room. :rolleyes:

[Kaepernick]

LMAO

I typically don't care about rep, but please, keep making your terrible arguments - it's helping add to my posrep.

With your logic you have owned Snoopy six ways from Sunday in this thread. The hilarious thing is, he can't see it.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Shout out to KING with that post of OOTP back tracking his ass off.

Its cool now. Now all of a sudden everyone knew the Chiefs defense was going to be this dominant.

No. Actually, the only people who said that, THEN, were me and Mac.

You know the two niner turds that a lot of people cant stand, who are on the regular way more upbeat about the Chiefs, than Chiefs fans.

Its cool though. LMAO

Bullshit. I said all offseason KC was 10 plus win team because of Alex's ability to control the ball and the elite talent on D being used aggressively.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

No wonder attendence at Arrowhead exploded....a tenth of the damn seats filled with niner fans ROFL

[bshmerlie]

I support the Eagles and have spent time on a low key Philly board for the past 8 years . I see you have 18 posts , how many replies have you gotten ? Plenty of crossfire here. Heh.

Oh...I'm.part of the older crowd. I've learned how to ignore "the stupid". Wouldn't it be awesome if people had to list their age and education level? It might help us to be a little more understanding if we knew we were in fact talking to twelve year olds.

[Discuss Thrower]

Help me understand why it matters at all if you have family, know someone or been to a place in order to root for the sports team.

Family might play a role in who you like as a team based on their location in that you liking a common team is an additional bond or tradition you share with them. IE me growing up a UK fan because half my family whom lives in Kentucky and have season tickets to Rupp Arena.

Asking a fan if theyve been to the location of said team is a leading question to determine whether or not the aforementioned fan is actually from the locale of their team. An answer in the negative means you get to bag on them for being bandwagon.

[Kaepernick]

I hate bandwagon fans. California Yankee fans are the worst. I don't mean folks who moved from NY to California, but native Californians who root for the Yankees whenever they win. Low life scum.

[Jakemall]

Don't know about you, but I wasn't perusing message boards in 1993. Don't think my dad was either.

Teams moving/players moving is a weak excuse.

Pretty sure that people still talked about sports prior to message boards. I know for a fact that when Montana went to KC a lot of 9er fans followed..even cheered for him when he beat the 9ers.

I can appreciate your loyalty to your team...I still love the 9ers..heck I'm a season ticket holder...but like I said, I don't feel like I'm any less of a fan because I've decided that it's silly to be locked into rooting for only one team.

Back in the pre-salary cap era, players stayed with their teams until they were about ready to retire or until that time. Players represented their teams. Say Montana, Young, Craig, Lott or Rice and you think Niners. Same for Aikman, Staubach, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irving...But what about Deon Sanders, Marcus Allen, Rich Gannon, Randy Moss?

Point is, once upon a time being loyal to a team was the same thing as being loyal to a player..and visa versa. Between the Salary Cap and Fantasy Football I think the NFL has changed that dynamic.

So, you're going to look down on someone for showing loyalty to a player instead of a team. Okay...you're welcome to your opinion.

[Jakemall]

I hate bandwagon fans. California Yankee fans are the worst. I don't mean folks who moved from NY to California, but native Californians who root for the Yankees whenever they win. Low life scum.

How is rooting for the worst team in the nfl bandwagoning? ROFL

[ViperVisor]

Yes, which is why Andrew Luck took the opening drive form his 20 in for a TD against a 49ers Defense that had rested a full week. Kaepernick must have worn them out in the locker room. :rolleyes:

15 yards on a wack roughness call on play 1.

9 yards and a still 1st down after Play 2 PI penalty.

Defense let them go the rest pretty easily. Heyward-Bey lol.

The next 7 drives. 3 FG attempts 4 punts.

The 2nd TD drive the Colts were given a 1st down on what should of been a 3rd and 9 play. During the replays nobody could find what was called.


Still not a good performance.

But last year when the Vikings won. Christian Ponder and co waltzed down the field 80+ yards 3 times for TDs, there was a mini meltdown over Smith.

Finger wagging over how 'This is how it is when he isn't carried by the defense'

Smith at least played like a typical Ponder game. He was semi-competent.

Kaepernick, who is supposed to be able to elevate the offense in times of need, what Smith is supposed to fail at?

He has utterly crapped the bed the last 2 weeks.

Week 1 was great but at the time in reaction to the reactionaries suggesting he was maybe the best QB.

I saw the gameplan was solid. The pass blocking was solid. The guys out in the routes got open. They made some tough catches. They got some YAC.

If he played a Peyton Manning type game that would of been a sign I would bought in fully with Kaepernick.

But it was only more of what I already knew. He is really good at throwing.
His #1 option was locked on to and the defense wasn't up to snuff. Boldin was thrown to 17 times. Vernon 9 times.

Now when stuff isn't going to plan you see the gears grinding in his head. Not making the best guesses pre-snap and only getting worse from there.

Now is where I worry about him not being prudent 'I know I can make something happen' 'I see I could of run for a 1st down a couple times if I didn't hesitate'

Sure he can do it but on the football field you are pressing your luck. A shoulder gets hit wrong or an ankle turned.

Then the 49ers are starting Colt McCoy

[BigCatDaddy]

Oh, I think you are seeing the true Alex. He is efficient and careful and not very productive. He knows how to stay out of the way of a solid defense and let them win it for him but also knows how to assist them with such as ball security, short passing game, good football IQ.

I agree. My point was the other 9 guys haven't played up to their normal standards as he was touting how much better Alice's QBR was than the elite guys at the moment.

[Kaepernick]

I agree. My point was the other 9 guys haven't played up to their normal standards as he was touting how much better Alice's QBR was than the elite guys at the moment.

They like to take a snapshot in time and pretend it is representative. "Alex has less ints than manning. Alex has a better completion % than Rodgers". Stuff like that. As if to imply Alex is elite by association, then they will turn right around and say "no, we know Alex is just average". :rolleyes:

They are your problem now. We had them for years and now you are stuck with them until Alex is traded or retires a Chief or suffers a career ending injury.

Then they will be gone like the wind because they couldn't give a rat's ass about the Chiefs beyond that being the team Alex is currently on.

Do you even wonder why this thread has 400 pages and will go to 1000 if so allowed? We just had a series of 200 page threads. In fact, each week we had a 200 page thread arguing with the Acolytes of the Church of Alex Smith.

[splatbass]

The OL is always such a convenient excuse. The Packers and Steelers have won championships with OL's MUCH worse than ours.



Actually, the Steelers OL sucks this year and the rapist looks like shit because of it.

[Jakemall]

They like to take a snapshot in time and pretend it is representative. "Alex has less ints than manning. Alex has a better completion % than Rodgers". Stuff like that. As if to imply Alex is elite by association, then they will turn right around and say "no, we know Alex is just average". :rolleyes:

They are your problem now. We had them for years and now you are stuck with them until Alex is traded or retires a Chief or suffers a career ending injury.

Then they will be gone like the wind because they couldn't give a rat's ass about the Chiefs beyond that being the team Alex is currently on.

LOL...hi Kettle.

[BigCatDaddy]

Actually, the Steelers OL sucks this year and the rapist looks like shit because of it.

I can't remember the last year their OLine could even be called average. Them sucking is nothing new.

[ViperVisor]

Actually, the Steelers OL sucks this year and the rapist looks like shit because of it.

Percentage Pass Attempts Resulting in Sacks of Three or More Seconds, 2009-2010 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure)
Ben Roethlisberger 4.89%

Alex Smith 2.46%

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure-standard-sack-deviation

Ben Roethlisberger avg time 3.3 sec

Alex Smith avg time 2.9 sec

Matt Cassel avg time 3.3 sec

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We're not the complete package. Yet.

[BigCatDaddy]

They like to take a snapshot in time and pretend it is representative. "Alex has less ints than manning. Alex has a better completion % than Rodgers". Stuff like that. As if to imply Alex is elite by association, then they will turn right around and say "no, we know Alex is just average". :rolleyes:

They are your problem now. We had them for years and now you are stuck with them until Alex is traded or retires a Chief or suffers a career ending injury.

Then they will be gone like the wind because they couldn't give a rat's ass about the Chiefs beyond that being the team Alex is currently on.

Do you even wonder why this thread has 400 pages and will go to 1000 if so allowed? We just had a series of 200 page threads. In fact, each week we had a 200 page thread arguing with the <b>Acolytes of the Church of Alex Smith.</b>

It's funny you mention that because I think of these Alice followers much like I do those that were David Koresh followers and the dumbasses that committed suicide because the alien mother ship was going to be overhead. I may start calling him Alice Manson. It's beyond ****ing weird. I still think a majority are crazy Mormons or something. it's just out there for a mediocre QB to have such a cult following.

[BigCatDaddy]

Percentage Pass Attempts Resulting in Sacks of Three or More Seconds, 2009-2010 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure)
Ben Roethlisberger 4.89%

Alex Smith 2.46%

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure-standard-sack-deviation

Ben Roethlisberger avg time 3.3 sec

Alex Smith avg time 2.9 sec

Matt Cassel avg time 3.3 sec

Is that accounting for bitches bouncing off of Ben once they get back there?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Is that accounting for bitches bouncing off of Ben once they get back there?

Who cares, the numbers are irrelevant.

Dude is trying to make a point using stats from 3-4 years ago.

[GoChargers]

So, you're going to look down on someone for showing loyalty to a player instead of a team. Okay...you're welcome to your opinion.

The point is not so much that rooting for a player is wrong, it's that coming over to that player's team's board and pretending to be a fan just makes you look like a bandwagoner.

LeBron James is my favorite athlete of all time. I root for him when he's not playing the Clippers. That being said, you'll never see me on a Heat forum acting like a Heat fan and talking down to everybody like the Alice slurpers have done here.

[Ragged Robin]

They like to take a snapshot in time and pretend it is representative. "Alex has less ints than manning. Alex has a better completion % than Rodgers". Stuff like that. As if to imply Alex is elite by association, then they will turn right around and say "no, we know Alex is just average". :rolleyes:

They are your problem now. We had them for years and now you are stuck with them until Alex is traded or retires a Chief or suffers a career ending injury.

Then they will be gone like the wind because they couldn't give a rat's ass about the Chiefs beyond that being the team Alex is currently on.

Do you even wonder why this thread has 400 pages and will go to 1000 if so allowed? We just had a series of 200 page threads. In fact, each week we had a 200 page thread arguing with the Acolytes of the Church of Alex Smith.

LOL you're the one who supposedly hates the guy so much that when he finally changes team, you go to that team's message board and post every day about him. Get over it and go back to the 9ers board. There's plenty of things to say about the current QB there where people actually care.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Hypocritical post is hypocritical.

[splatbass]

Who cares, the numbers are irrelevant.

Dude is trying to make a point using stats from 3-4 years ago.

Have you watched Ben this year? He has not looked good.

[ViperVisor]

talking down to everybody like the Alice slurpers have done here.

Pure credibility.

Quality QB, good teammate, standup guy. I think he'll help you turn the team around. I'll be rooting for him.


That is about all any 'Alice sluper' has ever said here.

The BS and people insulting your intelligence are the goofballs from various 49ers places who have come for what reason if they are glad the cord with Smith was cut?

[Mav]

The point is not so much that rooting for a player is wrong, it's that coming over to that player's team's board and pretending to be a fan just makes you look like a bandwagoner.

LeBron James is my favorite athlete of all time. I root for him when he's not playing the Clippers. That being said, you'll never see me on a Heat forum acting like a Heat fan and talking down to everybody like the Alice slurpers have done here.

Yet you, who has no dog in this fight, {alledgedly} cant stop always interjecting your point of view, which is to look down on anyone who likes Alex Smith. Shouldn't you as a CHARGER fan be thrilled to death that the KC Chiefs are stupid enough to trade for this bum?

[GoChargers]

Yet you, who has no dog in this fight, {alledgedly} cant stop always interjecting your point of view, which is to look down on anyone who likes Alex Smith. Shouldn't you as a CHARGER fan be thrilled to death that the KC Chiefs are stupid enough to trade for this bum?
I really don't give two craps about Alice in the grand scheme of things, but when his slurpers start ruining threads with their bullshit, I (and many others) call them out on it.

[Mav]

The fact that you had to tell everyone that you knew the Chiefs defense would be dominant, shows that you're a look at me attention whore dipshit. Beat your chest some more, maybe one day Blackbob will envy you.

I'm also pretty sure no one gives a **** what you and mac predicted. THATS the rub.
You know, when you get told from the beginning, from the moment you got here, how stupid you are for suggesting that the Chiefs are being built very much like the 2011 49ers, and you get neg repped, and insulted, and then exactly what you said was going to happen happens. That is the opportune moment to remind the same morons that are still in here crying today of what you said, and how it was going to happen.

Deal with it........You still cared. I called you out on it, and then instead of just owning it, and going away like the good little girl you could of been, you decided to take it another step. Which is FINE. I know no one wants to care. That's what separates the men from the boys. Real men, own it when they fuck up. Pussies like you, evade it, and deflect. #realTalk
Whiner fans are the biggest fair-weather, frontrunning bandwagoners in the league by far, end of story. Switching teams over Alice ****ing Smiff and whining about "only having 5 rings" is the epitome of pussified fanhood.
Fair weather fans? Do you even comprehend what you are saying? The dudes here supporting Alex Smith, are not FAIR WEATHER FANS. I was there fighting the battle on message boards since 2009....Things weren't so FAIR.....Ive been getting crushed for my liking of Alex Smith since the dude was drafted over Aaron Rodgers. fair weather.
Alexcuses. They know them all.

Snoopy is always going to win, no matter how many times he has to lose to do it. He just outlasts you with illogic until you just get tired out and go away, leaving him in "victory".
ahhhh, there you go, acknowledging me again. Even though, I haven't mentioned you.......Classic.......
With your logic you have owned Snoopy six ways from Sunday in this thread. The hilarious thing is, he can't see it.

Yes, I have been owned. Yet, as I have stated, Alex just keeps on winning despite your futile attempts to show what Alex cant do, and keeps on doing.

And despite all of your proclamations of how KAEPERNICK will save the 49ers, blah blah blah, Elite qbs make receivers better, BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH, now that he sucks dirty dick, its the personnel around him.

Yes, im being owned with "logic"

Nothing stating that after three games, that a team that won 2 games all of last year, has already won three, with the same type of play from Alex Smith that we have seen since he had quality coaching says anything except for the fact that apparently with not turning the ball over, and a great defense, you can win in the NFL.

Oh, and look at that. NOW, you don't even have your awesome little TOP 5 OLINE, AND TOP 5 RUNNING GAME to fall back on.

But, yes, OWN me with SOME MORE LOGIC.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Have you watched Ben this year? He has not looked good.

And what exactly does that have to do with this thread, or stats from 2009?

[Mav]

I really don't give two craps about Alice in the grand scheme of things, but when his slurpers start ruining threads with their bullshit, I (and many others) call them out on it.

Ruining threads?

How so? By not joining in on the hit parade that is ALEX SMITH SUCKS?

He doesn't suck, he just isn't great in the way that guys like you want him to be great. He doesn't and wont throw for tons of yards and tds. But even you cant dispute that he WINS. And when he beats your chargers, even though you have more offensive talent, and a better qb, you will be going damn, how did alex smith beat us?

Oh, here, go ahead I got you.

The Chiefs defense, and at some point, Phillip Rivers had a crucial interception, and Alex had nothing to do with it.

Go ahead, copy it, paste it. And you know what?

Andy Reid wont give a shit at all, nor will Alex Smith, nor will Dwayne Bowe, nor with any other Chiefs. All who will care are the whiny little girls who have seen it all before, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

[GoChargers]

Ruining threads?

How so? By not joining in on the hit parade that is ALEX SMITH SUCKS?

No, by turning every thread into an argument about him. Don't even try to deny it, according to the few sane Niner fans on here, you all did the same shit on the Niners boards for years.

And when he beats your chargers, even though you have more offensive talent, and a better qb, you will be going damn, how did alex smith beat us?
No, I'll be saying, "thanks for helping our draft position, Chiefs!"

[Mav]

I have a legitimate question.

I have seen this a lot today. So I must ask.

What is it that makes people who support Alex Smith a "slurper"


What exactly and be specific did any body who likes Alex Smith say that has you guys so upset.

I could see it if anyone came here proclaiming Alex Smith as the SAVIOR of the Chiefs. Hes going to lead them to the super bowl, now that he is out from under the loving ball and chain that grounded Alex Smiths super man abilities to carry an entire franchise, throw for 5k yards, 48 tds, run for 12 tds, while simultaneously fisting Peyton manning in the ass, and humping Chiefs cheerleaders alike.

How is it that people can be so pissed off that all that supporters say about him is that he wont turn the ball over, help keep his team in position to win, complete a high percentage of passes, and be a team leader.

Why in the hell is everyone so pissed off about that?

All Alex fans here except for Mac, believe that at best he is here to groom the QBOTF that at the moment being Bray, and to help the Chiefs win NOW.

Why is that such a problem?

[Simply Red]

Ruining threads?

How so? By not joining in on the hit parade that is ALEX SMITH SUCKS?

He doesn't suck, he just isn't great in the way that guys like you want him to be great. He doesn't and wont throw for tons of yards and tds. But even you cant dispute that he WINS. And when he beats your chargers, even though you have more offensive talent, and a better qb, you will be going damn, how did alex smith beat us?

Oh, here, go ahead I got you.

The Chiefs defense, and at some point, Phillip Rivers had a crucial interception, and Alex had nothing to do with it.

Go ahead, copy it, paste it. And you know what?

Andy Reid wont give a shit at all, nor will Alex Smith, nor will Dwayne Bowe, nor with any other Chiefs. All who will care are the whiny little girls who have seen it all before, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

I agree Smith is a winner, to a degree.

[Kaepernick]

It's funny you mention that because I think of these Alice followers much like I do those that were David Koresh followers and the dumbasses that committed suicide because the alien mother ship was going to be overhead. I may start calling him Alice Manson. It's beyond ****ing weird. I still think a majority are crazy Mormons or something. it's just out there for a mediocre QB to have such a cult following.

Nope, not Mormons. Just guys with egos that are so invested in one athele's development that they can't give it up or leave it alone. They've been barking up this tree so long, they are trapped in it. So on they go singing their one note song to anybody who will listen. It is gotten to the point that Alex's failure is there failure. To keep their own egos from being crushed, Alex must succeed, whether his success is real or imagined.

I don't know when they crossed the point of no return, but at some point their egos got so invested in the development and success of Alex Smith, there was no turning back on him. If they turned on him now, they would have mental breakdowns or develop split personality or something, like a Hitchcock movie. Their own mental health is now on the line if they can't convince themselves Alex is a success.

Funny thing... back on the 49er board I could not spell Hitchcock. It would appear Hitch****.

[Mav]

No, by turning every thread into an argument about him. Don't even try to deny it, according to the few sane Niner fans on here, you all did the same shit on the Niners boards for years.


No, I'll be saying, "thanks for helping our draft position, Chiefs!"

Do you know here you are?

Just asking.....its the Alex Smith sucks thread.......

What should they talk about? Dustin Colquitt?

[Simply Red]

That Ram's game would concern me - if I liked SF.

[Mav]

Nope, not Mormons. Just guys with egos that are so invested in one athele's development that they can't give it up or leave it alone. They've been barking up this tree so long, they are trapped in it. So on they go singing their one note song to anybody who will listen. It is gotten to the point that Alex's failure is there failure. To keep their own egos from being crushed, Alex must succeed, whether his success is real or imagined.

I don't know when they crossed the point of no return, but at some point their egos got so invested in the development and success of Alex Smith, there was no turning back on him. If they turned on him now, they would have mental breakdowns or develop split personality or something, like a Hitchcock movie. Their own mental health is now on the line if they can't convince themselves Alex is a success.

Funny thing... back on the 49er board I could not spell Hitchcock. It would appear Hitch****.

Oh, I thought you were talking about your obsession with Kaepernick.

They say that older is wiser. Apparently that folk tale completely passed you by. Im not obsessed with Alex Smith. Im enjoying the journey he is on. Sorry that frustrates you. Its cute how you talk about others not being able to let go. And yet, you joined this board for the pure sake of mocking the Chiefs for getting alex smith. Even for a while your signature was something along the lines of

Thanks Chiefs for all the picks, Signed Trent Baalke.

You are one hypocritical piece of work. You always talk about my inability to stay on the same page. Dude, I don't even think half the time, you are in the same book.

I get it. I can see how someone as simple and myopic as yourself cant comprehend how someone could really like a player, yet, say they have flaws.

Chiefs fans have seen it. When alex messes up in games, im yelling at him. I don't hide from the fact that he has flaws. Guess what? EVERY QB DOES. Every qb makes a MISTAKE. Peyton Manning is one of the greatest qbs of all time, but, guess what, he lost a super bowl, he lost in the playoffs last year on just an awful AWFUL play. Throwing back across his body, something that you are taught not to do in pop warner.

it happens. Please, feel free to stay on your soap box, mister kaepernick fan, alex smith hater who cant say off the Chiefs board......

[Kaepernick]

LOL you're the one who supposedly hates the guy so much that when he finally changes team, you go to that team's message board and post every day about him. Get over it and go back to the 9ers board. There's plenty of things to say about the current QB there where people actually care.

Emphasis "supposedly". You've never seen me write I hate Alex Smith in any post anywhere. Because I have never hated Alex Smith.

America loves an underdog and I pulled for him as long as I thought there was a chance he could be the 49ers franchise QB. By 2009 I realized he was just drafted way too high and was never going to succeed Steve Young in any way, shape or form as a 49ers franchise QB. It just got worse in 2010. By then, I realized he didn't have what it takes to soar in the NFL.

The Alex lovers here scream that I hate Alex Smith. That accusation is aimed at anybody and everybody who criticizes Alex, no matter how valid the criticism. They have called people here Alex haters who simply were raising valid criticisms of Alex's play.

I don't hate Smith and I wish him all the success in the world. He is a genuine nice guy and nice guys usually finish last. It would be fulfilling to see a nice guy finish first for once. But I'm not an Alex fan because he is on an AFC team I don't care about.

Yep, the 49ers are my team and I could not care less about the Chiefs after we get your #2 conditional pick for going 8 wins this year.

I came here initially to offer my take on what you were getting in Alex Smith. Many said he was a bust and a bum and Cassel 2.0, and I posted frequently with both his strengths and weaknesses, saying he was mobile, smart, had great football IQ, great pre-snap reads, great efficiency, superb ball security, and was a master of the short passing game.

I also said he was risk averse, would not throw into a window, would not throw receivers open, would not throw in the vicinity of open receivers who were covered to where an INT was improbable but not impossible. I said he could not throw to his left or throw accurately on the run, felt phantom pressure, didn't see the entire field, didn't see the open receivers.

For a while now you guys know what you have in Alex Smith and most here know that Alex is no more Cassel II than he is the master that the Alex fanbois here promote him to be.

Other than that, you can suck my dick if you are going to tell me what board I can stay on or leave. The Admin and mods can. You can't say jack shit about it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You know, when you get told from the beginning, from the moment you got here, how stupid you are for suggesting that the Chiefs are being built very much like the 2011 49ers, and you get neg repped, and insulted, and then exactly what you said was going to happen happens. That is the opportune moment to remind the same morons that are still in here crying today of what you said, and how it was going to happen.

Deal with it........You still cared. I called you out on it, and then instead of just owning it, and going away like the good little girl you could of been, you decided to take it another step. Which is FINE. I know no one wants to care. That's what separates the men from the boys. Real men, own it when they fuck up. Pussies like you, evade it, and deflect. #realTalk

Says the guy who was furiously scrubbing his online activity just a few weeks ago.

LMAO

And you weren't called stupid for your prediction - you and your "friends" were called stupid because you barged into someone else's house uninvited, took a giant shit on the floor, then decided you were going to stick around telling people who built this place that the shit you took doesn't stink.

If you haven't figured it out by now, this isn't your typical message board. If you're expecting "props" or "respect" for shitting the place up and being a douchebag to the people that have helped build the place - you're in the wrong spot. It's not going to happen. Especially when you rack up nearly a thousand posts a month and they all say the same thing.

This used to be the best place on the internet to talk football. Noobs knew their fucking place.

Now, it's just a pissing match/attention whoring contest between you and your other Niner buddies. As evidenced by damn near every fucking thread in the last 6 months.

I wonder why people treat you like shit?

[Kaepernick]

I don't know why Snoopy thinks I read his posts. I really don't know why. ROFL

http://mob46.photobucket.com/albums/f103/KQ6WQ/GIFs/Boat_Crash.gif?t=1346866108

[GoChargers]

Says the guy who was furiously scrubbing his online activity just a few weeks ago.

LMAO
http://i.imgur.com/ctJjZcD.gif

[ChiefsCountry]

I don't know why Snoopy thinks I read his posts. I really don't know why. ROFL

http://mob46.photobucket.com/albums/f103/KQ6WQ/GIFs/Boat_Crash.gif?t=1346866108

That boat crash happened in Missouri.

[Mav]

I came here initially to offer my take on what you were getting in Alex Smith. Many said he was a bust and a bum and Cassel 2.0, and I posted frequently with both his strengths and weaknesses, saying he was mobile, smart, had great football IQ, great pre-snap reads, great efficiency, superb ball security, and was a master of the short passing game.

I also said he was risk averse, would not throw into a window, would not throw receivers open, would not throw in the vicinity of open receivers who were covered to where an INT was improbable but not impossible. I said he could not throw to his left or throw accurately on the run, felt phantom pressure, didn't see the entire field, didn't see the open receivers.

Other than that, you can suck my dick if you are going to tell me what board I can stay on or leave. The Admin and mods can. You can't say jack shit about it.

To the red.......

Yeahhhh tell me more about risk averse cant throw into tight windows, cant throw receivers open. I really want to hear more about it.....

http://i.imgur.com/petK2hq.gif
I told you specifically a while ago, you are confusing WONT, AND CANT, WITH DOESNT HAVE TO. Alex Smith is rarely in positions where he has to take unnecessary risks.

The Blue.

Way to feed that already negative connotation that has been associated with 49er fans. Bravo.....You win the idiot of the year award.

[Kaepernick]

Says the guy who was furiously scrubbing his online activity just a few weeks ago.

LMAO

And you weren't called stupid for your prediction - you and your "friends" were called stupid because you barged into someone else's house uninvited, took a giant shit on the floor, then decided you were going to stick around telling people who built this place that the shit you took doesn't stink.

If you haven't figured it out by now, this isn't your typical message board. If you're expecting "props" or "respect" for shitting the place up and being a douchebag to the people that have helped build the place - you're in the wrong spot. It's not going to happen. Especially when you rack up nearly a thousand posts a month and they all say the same thing.

This used to be the best place on the internet to talk football.

Now, it's just a pissing match/attention whoring contest between you and your other Niner buddies.

I wonder why people treat you like shit?

The 49ers board is insanely more peaceful and harmonious since Snoopy was banned. No, since Alex was traded and most of those guys left for here, as well as talk of Alex was prohibited from the 49ers only forum. Alex talk is still welcome in the NFL forum, but nobody is allowed to hijack 49ers game threads or QB or offense threads to just make them Alex threads.

We still argue like cats and dogs, but it is normal arguing, not the poisonous cesspool of rancid sewage that took over when these guys were able to hijack every thread about rushing or coaching or kicking and make it into an Alex Smith love fest that quickly degenerated into juvenile trolling.

Member bans and closed threads went down by a factor of 10 after Alex's official trade.

These guys are your problem now. Sorry to say, I wouldn't wish that on anybody. If you think it is bad now, wait unless or until the Chiefs lose a couple in a row and the Alexcuses really come hot and heavy. These guys are being mellow while the team is racking up wins. If you guys face some adversity, you will find these Alex lovers to be insufferable. I mean literally insufferable.

Never mind. You will eventually see it first hand.

[splatbass]

To the red.......

Yeahhhh tell me more about risk averse cant throw into tight windows, cant throw receivers open. I really want to hear more about it.....

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I told you specifically a while ago, you are confusing WONT, AND CANT, WITH DOESNT HAVE TO. Alex Smith is rarely in positions where he has to take unnecessary risks.

The Blue.

Way to feed that already negative connotation that has been associated with 49er fans. Bravo.....You win the idiot of the year award.

The last few years when we were 3rd and long I had no confidence at all that we would get a first down. That has changed this year, because he has done it when we really needed it several times..

[Mav]

Says the guy who was furiously scrubbing his online activity just a few weeks ago.

LMAO

And you weren't called stupid for your prediction - you and your "friends" were called stupid because you barged into someone else's house uninvited, took a giant shit on the floor, then decided you were going to stick around telling people who built this place that the shit you took doesn't stink.

If you haven't figured it out by now, this isn't your typical message board. If you're expecting "props" or "respect" for shitting the place up and being a douchebag to the people that have helped build the place - you're in the wrong spot. It's not going to happen. Especially when you rack up nearly a thousand posts a month and they all say the same thing.

This used to be the best place on the internet to talk football. Noobs knew their ****ing place.

Now, it's just a pissing match/attention whoring contest between you and your other Niner buddies. As evidenced by damn near every ****ing thread in the last 6 months.

I wonder why people treat you like shit?

Again. You showing more of the ineptitude of yourself.

I don't think that people here treat me like shit. What I think is that know it all, but really don't know shit types such as yourself that always speaks with a tone of ABSOLUTE, is always more fun to verbally spar with. The fact that it takes all of your buddies to prop you up, so that you have to talk about how much "rep" you are receiving, shows me even more how much you really understand what is going on.

Shit on your floor? No dumbass. Shitting on your floor, would be coming in here and saying from the get go, "HAHAHAHAHAHA you guys go fucked, we just took two premium draft picks for trash that we would or released anyways."

That's shitting on your floor. If anything, the pro alex 49er fans that came here with nothing but good intentions, regardless of what kind of FREE RUNNING WILD BOARD THIS IS, (which is great by the way) would be the clean up crew if you will. We have tried to clean up the SHIT that retards like Kaepernick have spewed all over.

Now, as to your SCRUBBING. That's fine. Go with that. Think you know what I did, or didn't do. Its always cute when you know you have someone so frustrated and beaten, that they have to go OFF topic and "out of their lane" if you will to try to take back the upper hand.

Go ahead. Have the upper hand. You haven't ever been that bright to begin with. hell, the other day I repped you because of something funny you said in the GTA thread, and your retarded ass got all butt hurt, because I didn't quote the correct post.

You definitely show your intelligence every time you post. Hell, even when someone is just trying to be polite.

:rolleyes:

[Hammock Parties]

The last few years when we were 3rd and long I had no confidence at all that we would get a first down. That has changed this year, because he has done it when we really needed it several times..

uhhhh let's not freak out

I can think of twice: that play, and the throw to Duck Dynasty.

The other times are Avery picking up YAC.

He is bad on third down.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Nope, not Mormons. Just guys with egos that are so invested in one athele's development that they can't give it up or leave it alone. They've been barking up this tree so long, they are trapped in it. So on they go singing their one note song to anybody who will listen. It is gotten to the point that Alex's failure is there failure. To keep their own egos from being crushed, Alex must succeed, whether his success is real or imagined.

I don't know when they crossed the point of no return, but at some point their egos got so invested in the development and success of Alex Smith, there was no turning back on him. If they turned on him now, they would have mental breakdowns or develop split personality or something, like a Hitchcock movie. Their own mental health is now on the line if they can't convince themselves Alex is a success.

Funny thing... back on the 49er board I could not spell Hitchcock. It would appear Hitch****.

Just a little context into how batshit insane the person who posts under Kaepernick is. Here is what he posted on the 49er board.

Kap, we love ya.

We know your God-given physical gifts. We know your sharp and active mind. We know your sterling character. We know your devotion to your craft and your indefatigable work ethic. We know your drive to excel and know your achievements came against the odds. We know you glorify God with them.

http://blog.godreports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Colin-tatoo.jpg

We know how great you shall become. We know you are a champion and that you will lead your teammates to championships. There is nothing your detractors can say that will stop you from reaching the bright star of your destiny. The greater the struggle, the greater the triumph.

I am thrilled you are the QB of my favorite football team. I don't deserve the honor but I am forever grateful.

Humbly yours,

Jim F.

And he claims others obsess too much over a football player. This nutjob posts creepy love letters to his man like this on a regular basis.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The last few years when we were 3rd and long I had no confidence at all that we would get a first down. That has changed this year, because he has done it when we really needed it several times..

LMAO

He's completing 53% on 3rd down, and we're converting 32% as a team - good for 27th in the league.

[Mav]

I don't know why Snoopy thinks I read his posts. I really don't know why. ROFL

http://mob46.photobucket.com/albums/f103/KQ6WQ/GIFs/Boat_Crash.gif?t=1346866108

I know why you don't. You cant stand toe to toe with me to begin with. Everything you throw in my face, I answer back to you. Every time you beg me to stop replying to your posts, I do, then you cant keep me out of your mouth. There are no mods for you to run to anymore. They wont save you.

here is the funny thing though. Who do you think the first time you were put on Global ignore, guess who the guy who went to TG and asked her to take you off?

THAT WAS ME. Im not some dick head who just loves to talk shit. Welllll, that's not entirely true, I do, but still, I don't really give a shit. At the end of the day, I get off here, go hang out with my beautiful wife, and son, and you go get on your knees and start blowing your kaepernick blow up doll.

I have nothing to be envious of you at all..

The guy I was told was holding the team back, and supported through thick and thin. 3-0.

Your lover, 1-2, and its all his fault.

Please, put the post I found so hilarious about the Chiefs winning more games, and how you said "Maverick wonders why he has no credibility." under it.

Tell me again about my credibility???

[Mav]

LMAO

He's completing 53% on 3rd down, and we're converting 32% as a team - good for 27th in the league.

3 weeks into the season. Brand new tight ends, rookie right tackle, new receiver, new system, new coaching staff.

SHOCKED..........

[RealSNR]

The 49ers board is insanely more peaceful and harmonious since Snoopy was banned. No, since Alex was traded and most of those guys left for here, as well as talk of Alex was prohibited from the 49ers only forum. Alex talk is still welcome in the NFL forum, but nobody is allowed to hijack 49ers game threads or QB or offense threads to just make them Alex threads.


:eek:

Holy fucking shit. What 49ers forum do you post on? Stalinplanet.com?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Again. You showing more of the ineptitude of yourself.

I don't think that people here treat me like shit. What I think is that know it all, but really don't know shit types such as yourself that always speaks with a tone of ABSOLUTE, is always more fun to verbally spar with. The fact that it takes all of your buddies to prop you up, so that you have to talk about how much "rep" you are receiving, shows me even more how much you really understand what is going on.

Shit on your floor? No dumbass. Shitting on your floor, would be coming in here and saying from the get go, "HAHAHAHAHAHA you guys go fucked, we just took two premium draft picks for trash that we would or released anyways."

That's shitting on your floor. If anything, the pro alex 49er fans that came here with nothing but good intentions, regardless of what kind of FREE RUNNING WILD BOARD THIS IS, (which is great by the way) would be the clean up crew if you will. We have tried to clean up the SHIT that retards like Kaepernick have spewed all over.

Now, as to your SCRUBBING. That's fine. Go with that. Think you know what I did, or didn't do. Its always cute when you know you have someone so frustrated and beaten, that they have to go OFF topic and "out of their lane" if you will to try to take back the upper hand.

Go ahead. Have the upper hand. You haven't ever been that bright to begin with. hell, the other day I repped you because of something funny you said in the GTA thread, and your retarded ass got all butt hurt, because I didn't quote the correct post.

You definitely show your intelligence every time you post. Hell, even when someone is just trying to be polite.

:rolleyes:

Holy delusional, Batman.

[Mav]

uhhhh let's not freak out

I can think of twice: that play, and the throw to Duck Dynasty.

The other times are Avery picking up YAC.

He is bad on third down.

Throwing to a guy who has run after the catch ability in space is called a smart play. So now that doesn't count because it wasn't a 30 yard throw?

Seriously? I guess Joe Flaccos 4th down conversion against the Chargers last year that saved their season and jump started them on their run to the super bowl, shouldn't count either.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I know why you don't. You cant stand toe to toe with me to begin with. Everything you throw in my face, I answer back to you. Every time you beg me to stop replying to your posts, I do, then you cant keep me out of your mouth. There are no mods for you to run to anymore. They wont save you.

here is the funny thing though. Who do you think the first time you were put on Global ignore, guess who the guy who went to TG and asked her to take you off?

THAT WAS ME. Im not some dick head who just loves to talk shit. Welllll, that's not entirely true, I do, but still, I don't really give a shit. At the end of the day, I get off here, go hang out with my beautiful wife, and son, and you go get on your knees and start blowing your kaepernick blow up doll.

I have nothing to be envious of you at all..

The guy I was told was holding the team back, and supported through thick and thin. 3-0.

Your lover, 1-2, and its all his fault.

Please, put the post I found so hilarious about the Chiefs winning more games, and how you said "Maverick wonders why he has no credibility." under it.

Tell me again about my credibility???

Yeah, you're not shitting in our house.

You assholes turn every fucking thread into this bullshit.

[Mav]

Holy delusional, Batman.

Yup. Delusional.

Things I have said since I have been here about Alex Smith. Let me show you the delusion.

List:

He is a stop gap. He is here to groom the qbotf.
He will not turn the ball over.
He will help the defense by not giving the other team the short field, by relying on a kick to end a drive. {punt, extra point, fg}
He has no ego when it comes to handing the ball off.

He will take too many sacks.

And I said that I didn't think that if Andy Reid was asking him to throw every game over 30 times a game, that he would be successful.


I said from the beginning, that the Chiefs would win 10 games.
I said the 2013 chiefs are built very much so like the 2011 49ers built around the special teams, oline, and defense.

Tell me.....

WHERE IS MY DELUSION?

[splatbass]

uhhhh let's not freak out

I can think of twice: that play, and the throw to Duck Dynasty.

The other times are Avery picking up YAC.

He is bad on third down.

YAC still counts as a first down. The plays were DESIGNED that way.

[Mav]

Yeah, you're not shitting in our house.

You assholes turn every ****ing thread into this bullshit.

Yeah its really funny. We go into any thread, and go, YOU GUYS, ALEX SMITH IS SO GREAT.....ADMIT IT....

yeah, because that happens. or, which is the case with me, when I spot bullshit, I call it out.

Unlike you, who is the only person on the fucking planet that has watched a chiefs game this year, you find no problems with the playcalling, or the oline.

Yeahhhhhhh. Please, keep telling ME about Chiefs football.

No, we are the assholes, who don't just go full retard with you..... And it pisses you off......

[Hammock Parties]

YAC still counts as a first down. The plays were DESIGNED that way.

And if Avery doesn't make the play, the Chiefs punt.

Those weren't difficult throws.

[Hammock Parties]

Throwing to a guy who has run after the catch ability in space is called a smart play. So now that doesn't count because it wasn't a 30 yard throw?

Seriously? I guess Joe Flaccos 4th down conversion against the Chargers last year that saved their season and jump started them on their run to the super bowl, shouldn't count either.

I'm not giving ANY QB credit for throwing 5 yards short of the marker on third and long, sorry, and that goes for Flacco too.

Credit goes 100 percent to the receiver and the blocking.

[Mav]

And if Avery doesn't make the play, the Chiefs punt.

Those weren't difficult throws.

So, it was a stupid throw that resulted in a player who gets paid to make plays, making that play?

Im not sure what we are getting at here. The design of the play, seemed to be having Avery crossing. Once he got the ball in his hands, its true that it was easy. but hell, why is easy a bad thing? If he throws it past the sticks, and its incomplete, its the same result if avery is tackled short.

[Kaepernick]

I have to laugh. I see "Mavericks Ace" and I see "Kaepernick" in a quote and I just skip the whole post. It is kind of sad. Snoopy is wasting all this time and energy writing crap I never read and never will read. ROFL

Ah, whatever. He has the energy of a lawyer. He is just as happy spewing his propaganda unread as read. It is like therapy for him. As long as he gets to write his rebuttal to each and every post on each and every Alex thread, it is like therapy for him, even when he knows you never read his posts.

So funny.

http://media.rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/273196.gif

[Mav]

I'm not giving ANY QB credit for throwing 5 yards short of the marker on third and long, sorry, and that goes for Flacco too.

Credit goes 100 percent to the receiver and the blocking.

I guess. Its just the world we live in. The routine plays are all boring.

I can see now why you like Geno Smith so much.

[Kaepernick]

That boat crash happened in Missouri.

That would be Missouruh.

I've been to Mississipuh Missouruh.

[Hammock Parties]

So, it was a stupid throw that resulted in a player who gets paid to make plays, making that play?


Never said it was stupid.

It was a throw Cassel could have made, that's for sure.

The player to be impressed with is Avery, not the QB.

[Mav]

I have to laugh. I see "Mavericks Ace" and I see "Kaepernick" in a quote and I just skip the whole post. It is kind of sad. Snoopy is wasting all this time and energy writing crap I never read and never will read. ROFL

Ah, whatever. He has the energy of a lawyer. He is just as happy spewing his propaganda unread as read. It is like therapy for him. As long as he gets to write his rebuttal to each and every post on each and every Alex thread, it is like therapy for him, even when he knows you never read his posts.

So funny.

http://media.rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/273196.gif

Again. You wont, not because you think im wrong, but your ass is still sore from having your mocking little post when I told you the Chiefs would win more games.

You have no balls dude. That's why you wont engage me here, there are no mods to protect you. You are like that little twerp at school, who would punch someone in the back of the head, and then run into the school and stand beside a teacher. But, AFTER SCHOOL, away from the teachers, scared PUSSY.

its how it is. Read it, don't read it. I wouldn't read it either if my bitch card was constantly being pulled.

Oh, and by the way. When did you STOP reading my posts?

3 days ago when you were begging me to stop replying to you?

[Kaepernick]

:eek:

Holy ****ing shit. What 49ers forum do you post on? Stalinplanet.com?

Nope. The forum has subforums like this one. We don't have a catch all.

One forum is for 49ers team talk.

One forum is for NFL overall. We separate all the talk of Rams & Seahawks and such in a forum separate from 49ers direct topics.

Then another forum for things like tickets, 49er jerseys and gear and of course, all the politics and such.

Works for us. Keeps crazies from shitting on the main team threads. You'll learn the value of that as your season progresses. Or mayby not. Maybe you like the real football talk to just descend into flame wars. We don't.

[Mav]

Never said it was stupid.

It was a throw Cassel could have made, that's for sure.

The player to be impressed with is Avery, not the QB.

People should be impressed with Avery. He is a good player that not many people knew about.

Whats impressive about the play, isn't the throw, but the decision to me. he could of forced it. But, im guessing he saw that Avery had enough room to make those plays. That's what receivers are paid to do.

[Hammock Parties]

People should be impressed with Avery. He is a good player that not many people knew about.

Whats impressive about the play, isn't the throw, but the decision to me. he could of forced it. But, im guessing he saw that Avery had enough room to make those plays. That's what receivers are paid to do.

The reality is we won't see that every week. Those plays were blocked perfectly, and the Eagles were completely unprepared for them, not to mention the missed tackles.

The Eagles defense is really crappy.

[Kaepernick]

Yeah, you're not shitting in our house.

You assholes turn every ****ing thread into this bullshit.

BINGO. It is why we don't miss them. We can talk football on the 49ers forum now instead of fighting flame wars on every thread. The sooner Alex leaves, the sooner they will be gone.

[Tribal Warfare]

Works for us. Keeps crazies from shitting on the main team threads. You'll learn the value of that as your season progresses. Or mayby not. Maybe you like the real football talk to just descend into flame wars. We don't.

that's why we have icon tags for threads, less moderation and division of forums has always been this places hallmark. Plus Universal ignore is badass if you know how to trick it out.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yup. Delusional.

Things I have said since I have been here about Alex Smith. Let me show you the delusion.

List:

He is a stop gap. He is here to groom the qbotf.
He will not turn the ball over.
He will help the defense by not giving the other team the short field, by relying on a kick to end a drive. {punt, extra point, fg}
He has no ego when it comes to handing the ball off.

He will take too many sacks.

And I said that I didn't think that if Andy Reid was asking him to throw every game over 30 times a game, that he would be successful.


I said from the beginning, that the Chiefs would win 10 games.
I said the 2013 chiefs are built very much so like the 2011 49ers built around the special teams, oline, and defense.

Tell me.....

WHERE IS MY DELUSION?

That your blaming the guy with 1/5 your post total as responsible for all every thread on the forum turning into a Niner fan circle jerk.

You come in here with a sense of entitlement, ruining every fucking thread you post in and have the nerve to blame the guy with under 1,000 posts?

Yeah, that's delusional.

You're ALL the fucking problem, and you're too ignorant to realize it.

Christ, the OWNER of the fucking website offered you your own board to keep ours clean. Yet you still can't take the hint that you're neither needed, nor wanted here.

You're like the cousin we never knew we had - show up at our door one day with all your shit, asking for a place to stay the night.

Next thing you know, you've moved in permanently, eat all our food, drink all our booze, never clean up after yourself, never say thank you, or chip in for rent or utilities. But we're too nice to tell you to get lost.

In short, you're all fucking losers who have no fucking respect and are taking advantage.

[Mav]

The reality is we won't see that every week. Those plays were blocked perfectly, and the Eagles were completely unprepared for them, not to mention the missed tackles.

The Eagles defense is really crappy.


Im hoping that it doesn't take Andy Reid 3 quarters next time to realize that they could of shit down their necks way earlier had they gave up on the Pistol, and shotgun stuff.

Also, don't ever run that damn option with McCluster again.

Wow.

[Kaepernick]

And if Avery doesn't make the play, the Chiefs punt.

Those weren't difficult throws.

What they miss is that a lot of QBs can make those throws. That kind of game management during the season is not exceptional. You don't need a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck for that.

What they don't get is that, when you get into the playoff and you are in a shootout or you are down in the 4th quarter, you need a guy who can attack the defense like Aaron Rodgers. I am not a fan of Eli Manning. I think he is inconsistent as hell and too often foolhardy. Even so, he does have that mental ATTACKING attitude and when it works, he is golden. He has the 2 rings to show for that.

No those aren't difficult throws but for some reason, the Alex lovers believe that only Alex has mastered those throws and that there aren't 20 other QBs you could put on the Chiefs and accomplish the same things.

Tony Romo is another very inconsistent QB, but I am more than certain that if Andy Reid had him at QB with your defense to hold leads, Romo would be just fine in the short passing possession game without having to worry about carrying a team or winning from a big deficit.

These guys honestly believe Alex is unique in having mastered the checkdown/4-yard throw on 3rd & 19 that YAC picks up for a 1st down conversion.

[Hammock Parties]

Also, don't ever run that damn option with McCluster again.


So far we've been through three coaches who don't realize putting the ball in his hands is a waste of a down.

Hopefully Andy realizes it pretty quick here because wow he was bad last game.

[OnTheWarpath15]

that's why we have icon tags for threads, less moderation and division of forums has always been this places hallmark.

It's always worked for US.

Not to turn this political, but it's like the 2nd Amendment.

The Framers certainly weren't thinking of assault weapons back in their day, and we certainly weren't thinking that a group of Niner fans would waltz in here like they own the place and take advantage of our lax moderation.

[Mav]

That your blaming the guy with 1/5 your post total as responsible for all every thread on the forum turning into a Niner fan circle jerk.

You come in here with a sense of entitlement, ruining every ****ing thread you post in and have the nerve to blame the guy with under 1,000 posts?

Yeah, that's delusional.

You're ALL the ****ing problem, and you're too ignorant to realize it.

Christ, the OWNER of the ****ing website offered you your own board to keep ours clean. Yet you still can't take the hint that you're neither needed, nor wanted here.

You're like the cousin we never knew we had - show up at our door one day with all your shit, asking for a place to stay the night.

Next thing you know, you've moved in permanently, eat all our food, drink all our booze, never clean up after yourself, never say thank you, or chip in for rent or utilities. But we're too nice to tell you to get lost.

In short, you're all ****ing losers who have no ****ing respect and are taking advantage.

You have a point. You really do, if it wasn't for the fact that I came here respectfully basically congratulating the Chiefs for getting a good qb, and a class guy, to get told to die, DIAF get aids, get raped by an aids tree, and just about every other insult known to man, then you could be right.

But, alas, it always misses the mark with you. First, its a forum. Its called Chiefs planet, and I talk more chiefs than I do anything else, and it doesn't just go to alex smith. I can talk about any player on the team you have, and have done so.

You are just pissed off because the people that don't buy in to the negativity and bullshit, get outcasted. And instead of being a man about it, you just scream LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE......

Im not leaving. So either ignore me, or keep up your delusional ranting. every win is only going to get worse for you.

Eventually you will be right though. I don't think this team can win a super bowl this year. So, of course your myopic view some how is super bowl or bust, or the trade was a failure. Im sure you life your life that way too. If I don't do well today, TOMORROW IS GOING TO SUCK...

pathetic existence if you ask me. But don't, ego maniacs, rarely want to hear the truth.

[Hammock Parties]

These guys honestly believe Alex is unique in having mastered the checkdown/4-yard throw on 3rd & 19 that YAC picks up for a 1st down conversion.

People need to turn on other games.

Matt Cassel used to try to fit the ball into tighter windows than Alex.

Hell, at least he had that back shoulder connection with Bowe going on. Haven't seen Alex try that once.

[Kaepernick]

The reality is we won't see that every week. Those plays were blocked perfectly, and the Eagles were completely unprepared for them, not to mention the missed tackles.

The Eagles defense is really crappy.

Philadelphia Eagles 2013

30th in total defense
26th in scoring defense
24th in rushing defense
29th in passing defense


http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stat/total-defense-category

[Mav]

So far we've been through three coaches who don't realize putting the ball in his hands is a waste of a down.

Hopefully Andy realizes it pretty quick here because wow he was bad last game.

I still do not understand, nor see what he did in the preseason, that has him playing over Hemmingway. To me, Hemmingway would be the ideal slot guy right now.

[ratchet]

if alex improves and can get to the level dink and dunk efficiency of his niner days and also opens up the field just a BIT more i don't see alex becoming a stop gap. I also believe we have yet to see the best of alex just this season alone. He's only gonna get more comfortable with this offense and his players granted people stay healthy.

[Mav]

It's always worked for US.

Not to turn this political, but it's like the 2nd Amendment.

The Framers certainly weren't thinking of assault weapons back in their day, and we certainly weren't thinking that a group of Niner fans would waltz in here like they own the place and take advantage of our lax moderation.

You went about it the wrong way. Your immediate hostility gives people are reason to stay. If you guys had just been polite to the guys who came here to just be nice, instead of acting like immature idiots, most of us, would of left.

Well, I wouldn't of. I was staying regardless. But now you made the shit a challenge. So unless you do a global cleanse, it was never going to happen.

oh, and about your comment about a board.

I don't have the time, nor the desire to do that. that's why im NOT doing it.

Besides, I like being here. there are maybe 5 of you tops that are truly worthless, other than that, the place is great......

[Kaepernick]

People need to turn on other games.

Matt Cassel used to try to fit the ball into tighter windows than Alex.

Hell, at least he had that back shoulder connection with Bowe going on. Haven't seen Alex try that once.

Alex will eventually get there. It takes him a year or so to really fit a new system. You should be seeing some of those throws next year. He is risk averse, but if Bowe gets real separation, you should see some nice throws to him from Alex next year. Maybe even late this year.

Now if Alex has to throw into a window, no. But if Bowe runs routes crisply enough to get separation, Alex will begin to see that and as long as an interception isn't possible, you will see him start making nice throws to Bowe.

[ratchet]

If we consistently win alot of games he ain't going NOWHERE. All the smith haters beware

[OnTheWarpath15]

You have a point. You really do, if it wasn't for the fact that I came here respectfully basically congratulating the Chiefs for getting a good qb, and a class guy, to get told to die, DIAF get aids, get raped by an aids tree, and just about every other insult known to man, then you could be right.

But, alas, it always misses the mark with you. First, its a forum. Its called Chiefs planet, and I talk more chiefs than I do anything else, and it doesn't just go to alex smith. I can talk about any player on the team you have, and have done so.

You are just pissed off because the people that don't buy in to the negativity and bullshit, get outcasted. And instead of being a man about it, you just scream LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE......

Im not leaving. So either ignore me, or keep up your delusional ranting. every win is only going to get worse for you.

Eventually you will be right though. I don't think this team can win a super bowl this year. So, of course your myopic view some how is super bowl or bust, or the trade was a failure. Im sure you life your life that way too. If I don't do well today, TOMORROW IS GOING TO SUCK...

pathetic existence if you ask me. But don't, ego maniacs, rarely want to hear the truth.

Yeah, you've been really respectful. Like a few weeks back when you went on this psuedo-rampage, e-bleeding to anyone within distance, and then scrubbing your internet activity and trying to be a hard ass about it?

LMAO

And was it this thread or the Geno thread within the last hour you told someone something to the effect of, "suck my dick, I'm not going anywhere, you can't tell me anything, blah, blah, blah?"

I've been here for a little over half of this board's existence, you've been here for 6 months - yet I'm the one that doesn't get it?

Yep. The sense of entitlement is strong in this one, fellas.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You went about it the wrong way. Your immediate hostility gives people are reason to stay. If you guys had just been polite to the guys who came here to just be nice, instead of acting like immature idiots, most of us, would of left.

Well, I wouldn't of. I was staying regardless. But now you made the shit a challenge. So unless you do a global cleanse, it was never going to happen.

oh, and about your comment about a board.

I don't have the time, nor the desire to do that. that's why im NOT doing it.

Besides, I like being here. there are maybe 5 of you tops that are truly worthless, other than that, the place is great......

Exhibit 1,032: The "lecture" posts.

Why would we treat opposing fans who come in and dump 1000 Alex Smith posts a month with respect - especially when they act like they own the fucking place? This place is known for attacking n00bs who act high and mighty, when they've done nothing here to deserve respect. You have to earn it.

These "lectures" aren't exactly endearing either.

You're mirror must be busted, because you and your crew have a real crooked view of what you're doing here.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Funny how you wouldn't have time to post on the "Niners Planet" that was offered to you guys, yet you have time to post 1,000 times a month here.

Yeah, you're not trolling.

[splatbass]

Matt Cassel used to try to fit the ball into tighter windows than Alex.



Matt Cassel threw a lot of interceptions. You think there might be a connection? :hmmm:

More often than not Cassel misses that throw. Hell, he couldn't even throw a freaking screen pass accurately.

You using the failure that is Cassel as an example, the guy you supported flying a banner about, is retarded.

[Sorter]

Matt Cassel threw a lot of interceptions. You think there might be a connection? :hmmm:

More often than not Cassel misses that throw. Hell, he couldn't even throw a freaking screen pass accurately.

You using the failure that is Cassel as an example, the guy you supported flying a banner about, is retarded.

I'm not really sure what it is yet but this team has struggled at screens for quite some time.


It's really confusing without breaking it down further.

[Hammock Parties]

Matt Cassel threw a lot of interceptions. You think there might be a connection? :hmmm:

More often than not Cassel misses that throw. Hell, he couldn't even throw a freaking screen pass accurately.

You using the failure that is Cassel as an example, the guy you supported flying a banner about, is retarded.

Look, all I'm trying to say is...Cassel could hit a wide open guy running a 5-yard crossing route, too.

It's not an impressive throw.

[RealSNR]

Exhibit 1,032: The "lecture" posts.

Why would we treat opposing fans who come in and dump 1000 Alex Smith posts a month with respect - especially when they act like they own the fucking place? This place is known for attacking n00bs who act high and mighty, when they've done nothing here to deserve respect. You have to earn it.

These "lectures" aren't exactly endearing either.

You're mirror must be busted, because you and your crew have a real crooked view of what you're doing here.

Pretty much. As soon as the Dumbfuckulans made first contact with Chiefs Planet, they immediately set to work with the lectures about how Alex isn't that good, but we should nonetheless be damn grateful for him as our QB because we're a 2-win team. And it was presented to us as if being fans of a terrible football team somehow made us less knowledgeable about the game.

Multiply that by the fucking DROVES of them that we got, and it was an enormous infestation worse than the goddamn Bubonic Plague. And much like the plague, I expect our forum to fully recover in, oh.. say.... 1 or 7 centuries.

[Hammock Parties]

Dumbfuckulans

LMAO

Did they have a war with the Tardons?

[Sorter]

Dumb****ulans

LMAO

Did they have a war with the Tardons?

Definitely not with the Targaryens. They'd be raped, then burned alive.

[Sandy Vagina]

Alexcuses. They know them all.

Snoopy is always going to win, no matter how many times he has to lose to do it. He just outlasts you with illogic until you just get tired out and go away, leaving him in "victory".

You are such a butthurt little queer. Nothing better to do than follow your old SF buddy around to other forums and side against him with other fans? Do you even like the Chiefs? or are you just another Alex Smiff here to troll other SF fans that have "wronged" you in the past? JFC :shake:..

[Sandy Vagina]

No biggie, just rambling... like I said, it doesn't matter to me how people spend their time and money. People should watch whatever entertains them, since after all, it's just another product... but at the same time it just seems like if you have more than one team, you might as well not have any.

Is there a point in claiming a team besides loyalty?

I'll tell you what. Let me explain to you about last week.

It was Thursday night... KC was @ Philly... and all that day, I was excited. As the game starts, my pulse rushes with adrenaline... this goes on all game long as I am pinned to the TV in hopes of a KC victory.

Now skip to Sunday. It's almost noon, and I elect to watch NOLA vs AZ and flip back and forth with other games like STL vs DAL. No excitement.. no adrenaline.. just watching various games for love of the game.

3 hours later that Sunday, here comes the excitement... the adrenaline.. as the 49ers take on the Colts. All game long.. pinned to the TV.


So you... a pure Chiefs fan... likely feel that football excitement for your 3 hours a week. Me as a SF/KC fan? I doubled my pleasure. Would I add more teams to take an emotional attachment to? No. Two is about all I can handle.

There isn't a ton of distinction between the people lashing out and condemning those who "are a fan of more than one team" vs those who like some other teams more than other teams. I like many teams in the NFL... at least more than others. I just happen to like the 49ers the most... and the Chiefs the next most.

So I really think this is all about degrees, semantics, and immature fanhood hubris.

That's all. Maybe you got something out of this? maybe not... whatever. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3193/vikeslogo.gif

[Sandy Vagina]

Yes, which is why Andrew Luck took the opening drive form his 20 in for a TD against a 49ers Defense that had rested a full week. Kaepernick must have worn them out in the locker room. :rolleyes:

The SF defense held Indy to 13 pts for over 50 minutes of the game... Kaep and the offense couldn't do shit. So your lil sorry ass is going to point blame at the defense? Talk about misdirection and excuses.

With your logic you have owned Snoopy six ways from Sunday in this thread. The hilarious thing is, he can't see it.
I don't know why Snoopy thinks I read his posts. I really don't know why. ROFL
Nope, not Mormons. Just guys with egos that are so invested in one athele's development that they can't give it up or leave it alone.

Your obsession with Snoopy is far more twisted and perverse. You talk about our investment in Alex, but what does that mean for you to follow Snoopy here like this? You are no Chiefs fan.. just a Mav-stalker? In the words of Sergeant Doakes, " You're one creep mutha****er. "



All Alex fans here except for Mac, believe that at best he is here to groom the QBOTF

Doubt I am the only SF fan here that thinks Smith has a real chance to be the Chiefs' starting QB for the next handful of years as they develop a youngster. Never stated that he WILL be here that long.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Tattoo boy will fail as prophecised

[Bearcat]

I'm not really sure what it is yet but this team has struggled at screens for quite some time.


It's really confusing without breaking it down further.

Hell, I remember thinking that in the 90s... I think DV's tenure was about the only exception. I remember asking people back in high school and college, why does it seem like every other team can run that play, yet the Chiefs can't ever get it right?

[Sandy Vagina]

You're mirror must be busted, because you and your crew have a real crooked view of what you're doing here.

The crooked view belongs to you and some other Chiefs fans. I'd love for the talk to be on topic... love to just talk Chiefs football (and yes, Alex is a Chief)... but it is actually Chiefs fans that end up turning these threads into "the SF folks."

You are ironically causing your own anguish here. Can you really not see that?

fact is this... most SF fans came here to support Alex and the Chiefs. No one claimed that Alex was elite or KC was now SB bound having him. Most of us came in with peace and respect.

Well clearly, that melted down very quickly. Why? Likely because (1) Chiefs fans HAVE sadly suffered through many years of pain in losing seasons, so you are already razor thin on civility to outsiders.. and more notably (2) apparently you guys recently went through many troubles from NE fans when Cassel came over to KC... and (3) you were still incredibly angry at the Alex trade, and misdirected your anger to SF's fans.

Now looking at (1) and (2) and (3)... does that justify the immediate disrespect shown to SF fans that came in with peace and respect? The honest and obvious answer is NO.. it did/does not.

... but even as this is YOUR house, did you really think that the initial disrespect from KC fans would then be taken with a smile? Well **** that. All of this animosity was created by... Chiefs fans being dickheads (and certainly not all or even most of you)... just the handful or so of very vocal ones that hated the Alex trade to begin with.

Now, men own up to their transgressions. So which is? Men or mice?

[Rausch]

Exhibit 1,032: The "lecture" posts.

Why would we treat opposing fans who come in and dump 1000 Alex Smith posts a month with respect - especially when they act like they own the ****ing place? This place is known for attacking n00bs who act high and mighty, when they've done nothing here to deserve respect. You have to earn it.

A n00b in any color jersey is still a fucking n00b...

[duncan_idaho]

A n00b in any color jersey is still a ****ing n00b...

Indeed.

Especially when that jersey is split down the middle because said noob has two teams.

[chuy49erfan]

You need to read the post I responded to again. Absolutely throwing kaepernick under the bus to go follow another team is weak as shit and definitely fairweather. You guys are a bunch of pussies.

Leaving your team for ANY reason is being a fairweather fan.

Then coming here and bitching about your old team?

Holy Christ.

Adopting a 2nd team. Yeah, that's showing loyalty to your original team.

Holy Christ. Are you guys 12 years old?

Or are you one of these douchebags who like different cities in different sports?

"I'm a huge Detroit Red Wings fan."

Ever been to Detroit?

"Nope."

Have family in Detroit?

"Nope."

Know ANYONE in Detroit?

"Nope."

Uh, ok. So your a Pistons fan?

"Nope. Lakers."

Ok, let me get this straight. Liking a player that played for your favorite team for 8 seasons, was an extreme hard worker, gave everthing he had and overcome a terrible situation is a bad thing? And cheering him to be successful and get at least 8 wins with his new team so my favorite team can get a higher draft pick is terrible? Uh, ok.

Most of us 49er fans are cheering for them and Kaep to try and make another SB run and are cheering for Alex Smith to do well whle the chiefs win at least 8 games because its in the best interest of the 49ers. So I don't understand how that makes any of us (or me) a fair weather fan. But ok, keep telling yourself that and hoping your team sucks until you invest a 1st rd pick on a QB.

[duncan_idaho]

Ok, let me get this straight. Liking a player that played for your favorite team for 8 seasons, was an extreme hard worker, gave everthing he had and overcome a terrible situation is a bad thing? And cheering him to be successful and get at least 8 wins with his new team so my favorite team can get a higher draft pick is terrible? Uh, ok.

Most of us 49er fans are cheering for them and Kaep to try and make another SB run and are cheering for Alex Smith to do well whle the chiefs win at least 8 games because its in the best interest of the 49ers. So I don't understand how that makes any of us (or me) a fair weather fan. But ok, keep telling yourself that and hoping your team sucks until you invest a 1st rd pick on a QB.

You're not who any of us are really making fun of.

It's the douches who have adopted the Chiefs as a second team because they like the way Alex Smith waxes his eyebrows and leads in a community and is just such a swell guy in general.

[BigCatDaddy]

You're not who any of us are really making fun of.

It's the douches who have adopted the Chiefs as a second team because they like the way Alex Smith waxes his eyebrows and leads in a community and is just such a swell guy in general.

I'm 100% sure if given the opportunity in real life Mac and Maverick would give Alex's balls a tongue bath.

[duncan_idaho]

I'm 100% sure if given the opportunity in real life Mac and Maverick would give Alex's balls a tongue bath.

And they'd finally get to find out if the rest of him is as beautifully manicured as his face, which I'm sure is a burning question.

[Sandy Vagina]

I'm 100% sure if given the opportunity in real life Mac and Maverick would give Alex's balls a tongue bath.

haha, nope.. I don't go that way. Never met the dude and don't really care to. But a grown man actually typing the words you just did? Yeah, my guess is that is something you have done or want to do to another male. Good luck with that. :p

[BigCatDaddy]

haha, nope.. I don't go that way. Never met the dude and don't really care to. But a grown man actually typing the words you just did? Yeah, my guess is that is something you have done or want to do to another male. Good luck with that. :p

Oooh, the old "I know you are but what am I?" Weak sauce, but it's what I expect from my bitch LMAO

[Rausch]

Indeed.

Especially when that jersey is split down the middle because said noob has two teams.

Or he's Bo Jackson...

[Sandy Vagina]

Oooh, the old "I know you are but what am I?" Weak sauce, but it's what I expect from my bitch LMAO

Nah man, think about it. I wouldn't even type that shit, cuz it's nasty. But you seem to really like imagining and describing homo acts. That tells us all we need to know, bro. We won't judge you for it. This world seems to be far more free about your lifestyle than I care for... but hey, do what ya got to do, I guess.

[Bearcat]

I'll tell you what. Let me explain to you about last week.

It was Thursday night... KC was @ Philly... and all that day, I was excited. As the game starts, my pulse rushes with adrenaline... this goes on all game long as I am pinned to the TV in hopes of a KC victory.

Now skip to Sunday. It's almost noon, and I elect to watch NOLA vs AZ and flip back and forth with other games like STL vs DAL. No excitement.. no adrenaline.. just watching various games for love of the game.

3 hours later that Sunday, here comes the excitement... the adrenaline.. as the 49ers take on the Colts. All game long.. pinned to the TV.


So you... a pure Chiefs fan... likely feel that football excitement for your 3 hours a week. Me as a SF/KC fan? I doubled my pleasure. Would I add more teams to take an emotional attachment to? No. Two is about all I can handle.

There isn't a ton of distinction between the people lashing out and condemning those who "are a fan of more than one team" vs those who like some other teams more than other teams. I like many teams in the NFL... at least more than others. I just happen to like the 49ers the most... and the Chiefs the next most.

So I really think this is all about degrees, semantics, and immature fanhood hubris.

That's all. Maybe you got something out of this? maybe not... whatever. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3193/vikeslogo.gif

That makes sense... like I said, I should have just become a Patriots fan in 2001, because that would have made a helluva lot more sense than trying to distance myself from watching terrible football over the past decade.

And as a jaded Chiefs fan, I think about getting my hopes up for no other reason than seeing them crushed in January, as opposed to the excitement you're talking about. Not that "seeing them crushed" means ruining my life, or that a SB win is all that matters. Kind of the opposite, really... years of trying to be optimistic, followed by disappointment has led me to apathy; and since I've seen the Chiefs accomplish several ~10 win seasons, I simply don't get up for regular season games like I used to. In the past few years, I've been more excited to see games with two of the big boys than watching shitty Chiefs football.

Kansas basketball is the easiest comparison for me, and it's easier for me to see your point of view through that lens... sure, there are disappointments, but the run to the NC game a couple of years ago was awesome, and even the tournament last year was fun. I still wouldn't ever claim a '2nd team', since like I said, there just seems to be a loyalty thing with claiming any, but I can see why someone would want that same feeling for two teams. They deliver excitement every year to the extent that I'll watch a relatively meaningless November game. Watching the Chiefs/Jaguars just doesn't deliver that kind of excitement like it used to 10+ years ago.

[BigCatDaddy]

Nah man, think about it. I wouldn't even type that shit, cuz it's nasty. But you seem to really like imagining and describing homo acts. That tells us all we need to know, bro. We won't judge you for it. This world seems to be far more free about your lifestyle than I care for... but hey, do what ya got to do, I guess.

More "You know you are but what I am I?" Come on, at least Maverick has some original good shit. Try again fuckface.

[JENKINSWINS]

http://youtu.be/eZBVOi-zLwg

[duncan_idaho]

More "You know you are but what I am I?" Come on, at least Maverick has some original good shit. Try again ****face.

Oh, great, he's a homophobe, too? Shocking.

Need to start giving these Niner trolls the PrisonBitch treatment... everyone Ignores them... no one quotes them.

[Bearcat]

Oh, great, he's a homophobe, too? Shocking.

Need to start giving these Niner trolls the PrisonBitch treatment... everyone Ignores them... no one quotes them.

I could just ban them all from the thread. :D

[splatbass]

I'll tell you what. Let me explain to you about last week.

It was Thursday night... KC was @ Philly... and all that day, I was excited. As the game starts, my pulse rushes with adrenaline... this goes on all game long as I am pinned to the TV in hopes of a KC victory.

Now skip to Sunday. It's almost noon, and I elect to watch NOLA vs AZ and flip back and forth with other games like STL vs DAL. No excitement.. no adrenaline.. just watching various games for love of the game.

3 hours later that Sunday, here comes the excitement... the adrenaline.. as the 49ers take on the Colts. All game long.. pinned to the TV.


So you... a pure Chiefs fan... likely feel that football excitement for your 3 hours a week. Me as a SF/KC fan? I doubled my pleasure. Would I add more teams to take an emotional attachment to? No. Two is about all I can handle.

There isn't a ton of distinction between the people lashing out and condemning those who "are a fan of more than one team" vs those who like some other teams more than other teams. I like many teams in the NFL... at least more than others. I just happen to like the 49ers the most... and the Chiefs the next most.

So I really think this is all about degrees, semantics, and immature fanhood hubris.

That's all. Maybe you got something out of this? maybe not... whatever. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3193/vikeslogo.gif

I'm with you on this. I've been a Chiefs fan for more than 40 years, but since living in the Bay Area during the Montana years I have also been a 49ers fan. I do the same as you, watch the early Chiefs game every week, then watch the late 49ers game. I'll always be a Chiefs fan first, but I also like the 49ers. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.

[splatbass]

You're not who any of us are really making fun of.

It's the douches who have adopted the Chiefs as a second team because they like the way Alex Smith waxes his eyebrows and leads in a community and is just such a swell guy in general.

What about the douches that have adopted the QB of another team because they hate the QB of their own team? That is a special kind of douchebag.

[JENKINSWINS]

What about the douches that have adopted the QB of another team because they hate the QB of their own team? That is a special kind of douchebag.

THIS!

[BigCatDaddy]

What about the douches that have adopted the QB of another team because they hate the QB of their own team? That is a special kind of douchebag.

I'm assuming you are referring to Geno. Could you link me to someone on a Jets forum from here talking up Geno? If not GTFO.

[warrior]

What about the douches that have adopted the QB of another team because they hate the QB of their own team? That is a special kind of douchebag.





This is what is bothering me too, enjoy our defense and winning for now hopefuly the offense will come along as the season progresses/ long time fan too

[splatbass]

I'm assuming you are referring to Geno. Could you link me to someone on a Jets forum from here talking up Geno? If not GTFO.

No, I'm referring to you and your douchebag friends that are obsessed with Geno Smith, the QB of another team, because you hate the QB of your own team. That is pretty douchebaggy.

[duncan_idaho]

What about the douches that have adopted the QB of another team because they hate the QB of their own team? That is a special kind of douchebag.

Who has done that?

Two people? Clay and SDH.

Watching his progression and occasionally posting about him (especially since we're just barely six months removed from the decision between that QB and our current one) is not the same as "adopting" him.

[BigCatDaddy]

No, I'm referring to you and your douchebag friends that are obsessed with Geno Smith, the QB of another team, because you hate the QB of your own team. That is pretty douchebaggy.

That's just ****ing stupid. This was a MAJOR decision that this franchise made by choosing Alex Smith over Geno Smith. To follow Geno and see what this franchise MIGHT have been is interesting and relevant(Because nobody ever bitches about the Blackledge pick). Just as following the career paths of Fisher and Joekel to see if we made the right choice between the top 2 RT on the board. Sorry about your butt hurt if we aren't all blind homers that swallow red and gold jizz because the team asked us to. Some of us like to evaluate the decisions made by the franchise and hold feet to the fire if they are wrong or praise them if they are correct. Nobody is wearing a Geno shirt on Sundays.

[Mav]

More "You know you are but what I am I?" Come on, at least Maverick has some original good shit. Try again ****face.

:evil:

Its all good man. I learned after having my life ripped apart for the boards enjoyment, not to take anything too seriously on this board. Its all in good fun. What better way to spend a Wednesday then arguing over some bullshit that none of us have control over.

Much better than talking politics....

[Mav]

I could just ban them all from the thread. :D

What fun would that be?ROFL

[Jakemall]

The point is not so much that rooting for a player is wrong, it's that coming over to that player's team's board and pretending to be a fan just makes you look like a bandwagoner.

LeBron James is my favorite athlete of all time. I root for him when he's not playing the Clippers. That being said, you'll never see me on a Heat forum acting like a Heat fan and talking down to everybody like the Alice slurpers have done here.

Bandwagoners are generally thought of as people who become fans of a winning team because they are winning.

I'm pretty sure that when I started rooting for KC because of Alex, they were ranked the WORST team in the NFL.

You might be able to accuse me of being unfaithful to the 9ers...but Bandwagoner? Seems to me that I'm doing the exact opposite of that definition. Same would be true for "fairweathered fan" since the 9ers were a superbowl team when I started rooting for KC too.

[Rausch]

:evil:

Its all good man. I learned after having my life ripped apart for the boards enjoyment, not to take anything too seriously on this board.

:mad:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvibh2tyj11r2k5o5o1_500.gif

[Mav]

:mad:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvibh2tyj11r2k5o5o1_500.gif

You uh, wanna take this outside bro?

3 o'clock by the monkey bars?LMAO

[Rausch]

You uh, wanna take this outside bro?

3 o'clock by the monkey bars?LMAO

...

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[Sandy Vagina]

I'm with you on this. I've been a Chiefs fan for more than 40 years, but since living in the Bay Area during the Montana years I have also been a 49ers fan. I do the same as you, watch the early Chiefs game every week, then watch the late 49ers game. I'll always be a Chiefs fan first, but I also like the 49ers. And there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Not that I needed the approval to justify it, but thank you. glad at least one Chiefs fan gets it! :clap:

That makes sense... I can see why someone would want that same feeling for two teams. They deliver excitement every year to the extent that I'll watch a relatively meaningless November game. Watching the Chiefs/Jaguars just doesn't deliver that kind of excitement like it used to 10+ years ago.

fair enough... :D

[Kaepernick]

You're not who any of us are really making fun of.

It's the douches who have adopted the Chiefs as a second team because they like the way Alex Smith waxes his eyebrows and leads in a community and is just such a swell guy in general.

But he is one of them. He was "chuy" on the 49ers.com website. And now he just joined up here. Add one more 49er fan following Alex to join with the rest of them here.

[BigCatDaddy]

Not that I needed the approval to justify it, but thank you. glad at least one Chiefs fan gets it! :clap:





You hitched your wagon the wrong poster there LMAO

[Jakemall]

You hitched your wagon the wrong poster there LMAO

Coming from you, he'll probably take that as an endorsement.

[BigCatDaddy]

Coming from you, he'll probably take that as an endorsement.

Ohhh sick burn dude LMAO

[NinerDoug]

But he is one of them. He was "chuy" on the 49ers.com website. And now he just joined up here. Add one more 49er fan following Alex to join with the rest of them here.

How do you guys figure this shit out? I assume he hasn't admitted to it.

[Sandy Vagina]

Coming from you, he'll probably take that as an endorsement.

Absolutely. It isn't hard to see the lines drawn in the sand between these CP groups. Too bad everyone can't just be remotely optimistic and enjoy the ride... but in every forum, there is the yin and yang.

[Mav]

I'm 100% sure if given the opportunity in real life Mac and Maverick would give Alex's balls a tongue bath.

Careful throwing rocks in a glass house while you have Geno Smiths dick firmly in the back of your mouth there boss.

That could be dangerous.........

[NinerDoug]

I'm 100% sure if given the opportunity in real life Mac and Maverick would give Alex's balls a tongue bath.

Careful throwing rocks in a glass house while you have Geno Smiths dick firmly in the back of your mouth there boss.

That could be dangerous.........

ROTFL

[Kaepernick]

All my neg rep is from Snoopy. Pathetic.

I mean, what is this supposed to do? Does it dock my pay 10%. Make me impotent? Drain my 401(k)? Does my sports car throw codes or something because Maverick Ace gave me a red dot on my rep?

Oh noes, I dissed Snoopy and shall pay by being taunted a second time! :eek:

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[BigCatDaddy]

Careful throwing rocks in a glass house while you have Geno Smiths dick firmly in the back of your mouth there boss.

That could be dangerous.........

This is exactly why you 9er fans are considered douche bags and aren't wanted here. You have no idea what Geno represents. It's not about Geno; it's about 30 years of having an organizations scared to take and develop a QB at the top of a draft. Geno represents the failures of this organization to win a ****ing playoff game in 20 years. Geno was the chance to turn the corner, to go in a different direction other than ones that equaled failure. It's not about Geno, it's about the Chiefs organization of it's continued inability and desire to invest in the QB position through the draft. **** man, we have never even had a Bernie Kosar. Geno is just the latest representation of that failure. There have been and will be others. Nobody is dawning a Geno jersey on Sundays or heading the Jets forums. I would pity someone that actually does that.

[Sandy Vagina]

This is exactly why you 9er fans are considered douche bags and aren't wanted here. You have no idea what Geno represents.

By now, we damn sure do know. The problem is that our response is one or many or all of these... and you do not comprehend it or choose to dismiss it.

1. All 32 teams passed on Geno... for a reason. Your arrogance has convinced you that you know how to scout prospects better than every NFL team.
2. Whether Geno or some other rookie prospect, you have no idea if this guy would ever reach the level of above average as a pro... much less this fairy-tale epic QBotF. Many of them do not. So, your team could win 3-6 games for years, all the while, accomplishing nothing but further pain.
3. So on that last note, you are left with only MORE misery for the fans and players, who are tired of losing. Some good players will look to GTFO. You must build a winning mentality NOW. Coaches and players in their prime don't have the luxury of patience that some fans do.
4. Whether such a rookie develops well or not, the choices were made by the people in charge. There is nothing you can do, so crying and being angry about it is futile and makes you look childishly butthurt. Be mature, and simply hope for the best with less vaginal bleed-out.
5. It is still very possible for KC to develop this mythical QBotF stud in Bray or in some rookie QB next season... WHILE this vet QB helps to build that winning mentality.

[Molitoth]

I found fault with your first argument before I even read the rest of them:
1. All 32 teams passed on Geno... for a reason. Your arrogance has convinced you that you know how to scout prospects better than every NFL team.

Not every team needs a QB. Why in the **** would most these teams draft a QB in the first round??? As you can see, there are only a few teams that KNEW they need a QB, and some that are iffy but the jury is still out on the QB they just recently drafted.


Buffalo Bills -Drafted one.
Miami Dolphins -Just drafted Tannehill
New England Patriots -Brady
New York Jets - Ding ding
Baltimore Ravens -Biggest contract ever
Cincinnati Bengals -Have a good solid QB
Cleveland Browns -Had confidence in Weeden
Pittsburgh Steelers -Ben
Houston Texans -IMO they could use one
Indianapolis Colts -Lucked into Luck
Jacksonville Jaguars -Thought Gabbert deserved another chance
Tennessee Titans -Drafted Locker
Denver Broncos -Manning
Kansas City Chiefs -Trading for other teams backups for decades
Oakland Raiders - .....
San Diego Chargers -Rivers is legit, even if he chokes
Dallas Cowboys -Romo
New York Giants -Manning Jr
Philadelphia Eagles -Vick and still have Foles (oh yeah and drafted Barkley)
Washington Redskins - RG3
Chicago Bears -Cutler
Detroit Lions -Stafford
Green Bay Packers -Duh
Minnesota Vikings -These are the idiots who should have drafted Geno
Atlanta Falcons -Ryan
Carolina Panthers -Cam
New Orleans Saints -Duh
Tampa Bay Buccaneers -Thought Freeman could turn it around.
Arizona Cardinals -Palmer, lol
St. Louis Rams -Think they have their elite QB (although I don't see it)
San Francisco 49ers -Tatoo
Seattle Seahawks - Got the QB we should have drafted



So in reality.... a FEW teams that need a QB passed on Geno in the first round.

and I'd bet you the Vikings draft Geno in a re-do.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I found fault with your first argument before I even read the rest of them:


Not every team needs a QB. Why in the **** would most these teams draft a QB in the first round??? As you can see, there are only a few teams that KNEW they need a QB, and some that are iffy but the jury is still out on the QB they just recently drafted.


Buffalo Bills -Drafted one.
Miami Dolphins -Just drafted Tannehill
New England Patriots -Brady
New York Jets - Ding ding
Baltimore Ravens -Biggest contract ever
Cincinnati Bengals -Have a good solid QB
Cleveland Browns -Had confidence in Weeden
Pittsburgh Steelers -Ben
Houston Texans -IMO they could use one
Indianapolis Colts -Lucked into Luck
Jacksonville Jaguars -Thought Gabbert deserved another chance
Tennessee Titans -Drafted Locker
Denver Broncos -Manning
Kansas City Chiefs -These are the idiots who should have drafted Geno
Oakland Raiders - .....
San Diego Chargers -Rivers is legit, even if he chokes
Dallas Cowboys -Romo
New York Giants -Manning Jr
Philadelphia Eagles -Vick and still have Foles (oh yeah and drafted Barkley)
Washington Redskins - RG3
Chicago Bears -Cutler
Detroit Lions -Stafford
Green Bay Packers -Duh
Minnesota Vikings -
Atlanta Falcons -Ryan
Carolina Panthers -Cam
New Orleans Saints -Duh
Tampa Bay Buccaneers -Thought Freeman could turn it around.
Arizona Cardinals -Palmer, lol
St. Louis Rams -Think they have their elite QB (although I don't see it)
San Francisco 49ers -Tatoo
Seattle Seahawks - Got the QB we should have drafted



So in reality.... a FEW teams that need a QB passed on Geno in the first round.

and I'd bet you the Vikings draft Geno in a re-do.

Fixed.

[BigCatDaddy]

By now, we damn sure do know. The problem is that our response is one or many or all of these... and you do not comprehend it or choose to dismiss it.

1. All 32 teams passed on Geno... for a reason. Your arrogance has convinced you that you know how to scout prospects better than every NFL team.
2. Whether Geno or some other rookie prospect, you have no idea if this guy would ever reach the level of above average as a pro... much less this fairy-tale epic QBotF. Many of them do not. So, your team could win 3-6 games for years, all the while, accomplishing nothing but further pain.
3. So on that last note, you are left with only MORE misery for the fans and players, who are tired of losing. Some good players will look to GTFO. You must build a winning mentality NOW. Coaches and players in their prime don't have the luxury of patience that some fans do.
4. Whether such a rookie develops well or not, the choices were made by the people in charge. There is nothing you can do, so crying and being angry about it is futile and makes you look childishly butthurt. Be mature, and simply hope for the best with less vaginal bleed-out.
5. It is still very possible for KC to develop this mythical QBotF stud in Bray or in some rookie QB next season... WHILE this vet QB helps to build that winning mentality.

1. Was already blown out of the water by Molitoth. Many teams passed on Rodgers for similar reasons that he listed and I'd take Rodgers even though Zilla thinks he sucks.

2. You never know about any prospect, but I'll bet one QB out of this class is better than Alex. The Chiefs pay millions of dollars a year for those guys to not miss him.

3. That's fine. Use Alice as a stop gap and let your young QB develop while you put asses in the seats.

4. Again. Why you don't get it and aren't wanted.

5. Your only solid point in the post.

[Sandy Vagina]

1. Was already blown out of the water by Molitoth. Many teams passed on Rodgers for similar reasons that he listed and I'd take Rodgers even though Zilla thinks he sucks.

2. You never know about any prospect, but I'll bet one QB out of this class is better than Alex. The Chiefs pay millions of dollars a year for those guys to not miss him.

3. That's fine. Use Alice as a stop gap and let your young QB develop while you put asses in the seats.

4. Again. Why you don't get it and aren't wanted.

5. Your only solid point in the post.

well, you did allude to that #3 being a solid point.

... and sure, #1 was shredded well enough... but without bothering to look deeply into it, and with the rookie salary cap being what it is now, I suspect that more teams would have been interested in adding a "quality" QB to be their backup and development QBotF if they believed him to be. So while 32 teams are not in that hunt, I am sure more than a few would have been as the first rd progressed.

[Halfcan]

1. Was already blown out of the water by Molitoth. Many teams passed on Rodgers for similar reasons that he listed and I'd take Rodgers even though Zilla thinks he sucks.

2. You never know about any prospect, but I'll bet one QB out of this class is better than Alex. The Chiefs pay millions of dollars a year for those guys to not miss him.

3. That's fine. Use Alice as a stop gap and let your young QB develop while you put asses in the seats.

4. Again. Why you don't get it and aren't wanted.

5. Your only solid point in the post.

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Why don't you go buy a Geno jersey and take your whining ass over to the Jets boards where you can all celebrate your awesome QB of the Future as he takes the Jets to the Superbowl this year. That way you can stop crying about Alex Smith and the Chiefs every fn day for 8 months. You are like a wind up crybaby doll with no off switch. Every thread, every post, every day- you blabber on and on about Alex- I think you need some help. Just take your ass to the Jets board and you can start the Geno for the Hall of Fame club and everyone will be happy. :deevee::deevee::deevee:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

:deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee:

Why don't you go buy a Geno jersey and take your whining ass over to the Jets boards where you can all celebrate your awesome QB of the Future as he takes the Jets to the Superbowl this year. That way you can stop crying about Alex Smith and the Chiefs every fn day for 8 months. You are like a wind up crybaby doll with no off switch. Every thread, every post, every day- you blabber on and on about Alex- I think you need some help. Just take your ass to the Jets board and you can start the Geno for the Hall of Fame club and everyone will be happy. :deevee::deevee::deevee:

Pathetic.